Lost & Found

What’s up XXLmag dot com family? I hope you people have been doing y’all, because I have been doing me. The Northeast heatwave has New York City all fucked the fuck up. It’s not like we ain’t used to getting all muggerlunch when the weather gets a little muggy, but after years of neglect and lack of intellect the infrastructure of the city is starting to show some wear and tear. The subways are fucked the fucked up, the roadways are fucked the fuck up and that my peoples, is just fucked the fuck up. I can only imagine how sick shit popped off down south during Hurricane Katrina. Nobody could have predicted how crazy the weather was gonna get. At least there haven’t been any bridge collapses on this side of town.

I finally listened to the new UGK album. I am going to give it another spin to confirm what I already knew, but at the end of the day this album’s best moment was the track that 3 Stacks opened up. Most solo artists just sound better with additional voices on their beats. UGK is one of those groups that just does better on collabos than on their own shit all by themselves. The album is aiiight, but to have the ‘International Players Anthem’ so early in a double CD doesn’t help the listener wade through the rest of the tracks. Nothing else comes close to the flavor of that song. ‘Swisha and Doshas’ is my second favorite track on this piece. UGK should have made this release an EP instead of a double brick. If you are a hardbody fan of these dudes then you won’t be too disappointed with all the filler. If you don’t fucks with UGK like that then just iTunes that ‘Swishas and Doshas’ track since I know you already DL’ed the other one featuring ‘Kast.

I’m not sure what to say about Common’s new album, ‘Finding Forever’, that people smarter than me haven’t already said. If you haven’t copped this joint yet you lost. FF won’t be your favorite Com Sense album, but that hasn’t stpped it from being one of 2007′s best offerings. The album employs some of the same soul music infused rhythms that I find on the UGK album. Not the same samples or the same beats, but the use of soul music as the foundation for the sound. ‘The People’ is still one of my favorite J Dilla tracks that KanYe has ever produced. The rest of the album definitely has a nice ATCQ Native Tongue feel. I’m not sure why some of the critics have panned this album other than their personal agenda against progressive rap music. Oh well, I suppose we all have to get in where we fit in. I hope that Common does some decent numbers for his effort, but what I really see on the horizon is a monster album from ‘Ye Tudda. No one inside of rap has grown their style as fast as ‘Ye Tudda has. He already had the beats OnSmash. Now he’s got a flow that at least doesn’t disparage the instrumentals. I hope that proposed tracklist from ‘Graduation’ grows a little bit with a couple of exclusives. It could be the best album released this year in front of ‘Jesus Price Superstar’ and my favorite for 2007, ‘Red Gone Wild’. RGW has been the only disc I run in the old LP fashion. I put on the first track and I just let the album play throughout without skipping. Good shit.

The last time I spoke with you I told you that there was a possibility that class action lawsuits filed against rappers might become the prevailing practice. Apparently there are some lawyers that read XXL Mag Dot Com because there are two legal actions recently filed that portend to this trend. The civil lawsuit against Busta Rhymes, Aftermath and Universal is the major one. I think that Universal and Aftermath are both as liable as Busta is. Why should record companies directly profit from the carnage left in the wake of some rappers while the artist is the only one to pick up the legal tab at the end of the day? All these companies and media outlets have long since made scrilla hand over fist from Hip-Hop’s exploitation and the rest of us, the fans, the listeners have been getting shortchanged as far as artistry and content. Something has got to give. The second lawsuit is a lot more subtle, but I think the ramifications are just as far reaching in undermining the façade of wealth and ownership that some people in the rap game have created. If Jay-Z is found liable for wage discrimination at the nightclubs he purportedly owns this could topple those businesses and the image of ownership he projects. My advice to him is to return to the sanctuary of the recording booth. This is the only place where he wears the Superman cape. Outside of the booth there is Kryptonite in disguise around every corner.

And when it all falls down do you know who is making the money? Lawyers.

F.Y.I. 2007′s Top Five Hip-Hop CD’s
1. Graduation*
2. Red Gone Wild
3. Jesus Price Superstar
4. Finding Forever
5. Bodega Chronicles

*As of 9/11/07

  • VLsteve

    the bridge thing isnt real big here in MN, but you got the Red Gone Wild shit correct. but I remember you saying something like Desire was the best album 07

  • crack

    what a sorry ass list of albums

    bodega had many truly horrible beats on it and finding forever is a consensus shit sandwich. u really went out of ur way to not list a album from the south.

    why dont u ever have anything of substance to say? u essentially say the same thing in every post.

    why dont u just drag ur fat ass to ur favorite corner of ur studio apartment and stay there while somebody with something to say takes ur lace on this site

  • JOV6388

    CHINO XL AND IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE WILL RIP ALL THESE NIGGAS LYRICALLY WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO BE TALK ABOUT FUCK JUST LISTEN TO THEM THEN U SEE THE LIGHT PEACE

  • pat

    Red Gone Wild is a dope album. I agree with you on the UGK album, int’l players anthem shoulda come in at track 7 or something. i still like it though.

  • BIG ROB

    Graduation is defenitly gonna be the best album of the year maybe even of Kanye’s carrer. I’m predicting this is the year fisty flopps and gets found out for what he really is, a no talent smart dumb nigga. I cant wait to hear his excuse for flopping.

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    Ether Time

    “My advice to him is to return to the sanctuary of the recording booth.”

    Hate. Facade of weatlh? Do you agree Jay-Z is worth 300 million dollars? If so you facade of intellgience has been exposed to the kryptonite of your own writings. Jay-Z does have ownership interests in the 40/40 clubs, this is a fact. His legal duty, personally, for the day to day operations is something for lawyers to duke it out over…of course his proferred argument will be that he is an owner with no duty to oversee the day to day, etc. That doesn’t make him a fraud, as you put forth.

    The lawsuits: Its all about duty, breach and harm. A record company cannot be sued for the actions of it rapper unless the rapper is considered an “employee” of the record company and was “acting within the scope of his duties” as an employee for that record company. The claims against Busta’s companies appear to hold no water. (Unless I’m missing something)

    Class action lawsuits? I didn’t see any mention of such lawsuits.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    VLSteve,
    Where did I say Desire was the best of ’07? I must have been drunk.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    And when it all falls down do you know who is making the money? Lawyers.

    That’s an important line that you would recognize if you had aspirations on becoming a lawyer, but I see you don’t.

    Being wealthy > Being rich and famous. Jay-Z = rich and famous. I wouldn’t agree that Jay-Z is worth 300 million or whatever number you are quoting because I’m not privy to that dude’s accounting ledgers. What I do know is that if he is the owner of something, even a part-owner, then he along with all the other owners ARE in fact liable for damages surrounding the operation of that business. Jay-Z and all the other subsequent owners get called to the mat when a lawsuit is levied against their holdings. If he doesn’t actually own the restaurant and he is used as a marketing tool by the establishment in order to attract patrons then he won’t have too much to worry about. One way or the other the lawyer that represents him will be submitting an invoice to Jay-Z. Read the boldface quote at the top of this comment again if you are still having trouble comprehending…

    As far as the liability of a record company and it’s distributor for the transgressions of an artist under their umbrella…

    There will be a bevy of lawyers that seek to point blame and establish liability for the case involving Busta Rhymes. One thing has already been established, Busta knocked duke the fuck out. The question now is who will pay for it. What is the likelihood that the plaintiff’s legal team can prove that the defendant’s public behavior was endorsed and sanctioned by the corporations that profit DIRECTLY from his art/image? Not likely as yet, but I am stating that the fact this lawsuit was even filed means that it must be defended and disproved. And in American courts anything is possible. Look up O.J. Simpson or Kim Osorio.

    If you didn’t have a degree from some nickel and dime community college you wouldn’t have had a problem understanding the boldface quote at the top of this comment.

    Come again y’heard?!?

  • Purple Hulk

    ARE YOU ON CRACK?
    STOP DICKRYDING SEAN P AND LISTEN TO UGK, YOU FAGGOT SOB.

  • these posts are racist

    “At 36, [Jay-Z] is worth a reported $320 million dollars amassed in little more than 10 years”. From the Financial Times, November 3, 2006.
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/3589db72-6a42-11db-8ae5-0000779e2340.html

    That is “Wealthy”.

    Billy says: “Jay-Z and all the other subsequent owners get called to the mat when a lawsuit is levied against their holdings.”

    That’s not true. Why do you think people set up LLC’s and own assets via corporations? To avoid “personal” liability…i.e. so that plaintiffs can’t go after their personal wealth. Again, we don’t know the details surrounding the lawsuit or Jay-Z’s ownership interest in the 40/40 club, but what is clear is that you make an illogical jump by assuming that he is not an “owner” but rather simply a “marketing tool”…

    In order to go after someone personally, when their ownership interest is held through an LLC or corporation, such things as fraud and malice, etc. have to be shown in order to “pierce the corporate veil” and go after jay’s personal assets.

    Again, the details are sketchy, and too sketchy for you to conclude Jay as a fraud…and certainly make the baseless claim that he is not “wealthy” or should stick to rapping, thus implying he’s not a real bona fide businessman.

  • these posts are racist

    There is little out there as far as details, but from what I have read Jay is being sued, personally, and his lawyers are arguing that he is a Shareholder (which means he is one of the owners) but that he plays “no role in payroll whatsoever,” nor is he “a statutory employer.”

    It boils down to “duty”. Duty to oversee and make sure workers are being paid properly. If the shareholder capacity jay is in, is not deemed to be the type of owner that is considered an employer with a duty to oversee and protect employees from being underpaid…then no breach could have occured. Get it? No duty, no breach, no harm, no lawsuit.

    Now, if he is found to have had a duty, and it is found he breached this duty and there was harm, then he could get in trouble.

  • these posts are racist

    “…the fact this lawsuit was even filed means that it must be defended and disproved.”

    Not true. A defendant who is being sued in a frivilous lawsuit can file a “motion to dismiss” which would end litigation pretty quickly, i.e. without having a trial or “proving anything”. Moreover, if it is shown during this motion to dismiss that the plaintiff’s claims were “frivolous”, the defendant could sue for legal fees, and bar this plaintiff from bring such a suit again and deter others from doing the same.

  • these posts are racist

    “At 36, [Jay-Z] is worth a reported $320 million dollars amassed in little more than 10 years”. From the Financial Times, November 3, 2006.

    That is “Wealthy”.

    Billy says: “Jay-Z and all the other subsequent owners get called to the mat when a lawsuit is levied against their holdings.”

    That’s not true. Why do you think people set up LLC’s and own assets via corporations? To avoid “personal” liability…i.e. so that plaintiffs can’t go after their personal wealth. Again, we don’t know the details surrounding the lawsuit or Jay-Z’s ownership interest in the 40/40 club, but what is clear is that you make an illogical jump by assuming that he is not an “owner” but rather simply a “marketing tool”…

    In order to go after someone personally, when their ownership interest is held through an LLC or corporation, such things as fraud and malice, etc. have to be shown in order to “pierce the corporate veil” and go after jay’s personal assets.

    Again, the details are sketchy, and too sketchy for you to conclude Jay as a fraud…and certainly make the baseless claim that he is not “wealthy” or should stick to rapping, thus implying he’s not a real bona fide businessman.

  • these posts are racist

    Wow. Billy argues with me, then deletes my comments.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    ^ stop crying you bitch, none of your comments were deleted. you put a foreign link in one of your comments so now it is in the website moderator’s queue.

    regarding LLC’s and other forms of sequesting one’s money… whether Jay-Z in incorporated or not, he is going to have a hefty invoice from his attorneys. let me help you out ONE more time. try to wrap this quote around your brain.

    “And when it all falls down do you know who is making the money? Lawyers.”

    as long as your comments pertain to the drop and your opinion is based on what I stated then I don’t care what you say in your comments and whether you agree with me or not.

    you are a little bitch that thinks niggas care about his opinion. I don’t care about you one way or the other. that is your weedcarrier’s job.

  • these posts are racist

    “And when it all falls down do you know who is making the money? Lawyers.”

    I agree that whenever there are legal disputes, the lawyers get paid, no doubt. But that’s not all you said in your drop. You say (in your comment) that Jay is not “wealthy”. He is…and according to the Financial Times, Forbes, etc. he is a multi-millionaire, upwards of 300 million dollars. That’s wealthy.

    You also say he has a “facade of wealth”. See above argument. You also say/imply that he’s not an “owner” but rather a marketing tool, I say, that claim is baselss. Finally, by saying he should return to the recording booth, you imply that his business ventures have been unsuccessful. What’s your basis for this implication? He got sued. How many times a day do you think Bill Gates gets sued? He employes his own law firm to handle his matters.

  • these posts are racist

    Billy,

    why do you have to swear and insult me? I’m honestly trying to have a good faith discussion with you.

  • VLsteve

    Billy

    you made a comment on some Bol drop, early back

  • Incilin

    That’s your best of list? Come on, didn’t you like “Return of the Mac” or “Desire” or even “Popular Demand” and even (hold your breath) “Buck The World? I thought those were really strong releases. And how can you put Graduation, it aint come out and I’m pretty sure you aint even heard it.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    TPAR,
    Please don’t compare Jay-Z to Bill Gates. Their level of wealth and their proprietary holdings are 180 degrees apart even though I’m sure you could extract the photo of them shaking hands.

    Jay-Z is undoubtedly rich and famous. Part of his accrued riches is entirely connected to his fame and not a proprietary holding that regenerates it’s own wealth like a patent. You might argue that Jay-Z owns publishing credits and he collects royalties on those and in some measures that is a self-generating means of wealth provided someone accesses those properties.

    Jay-Z has been one of the biggest arbiters of quote unquote urban style. So is Sean Puffy Combs. This has made them extremely rich. I’m smart enough to know that Jay-Z won’t be that spokesperson five years from now. Twenty years from now Bill Gates will STILL be collecting interest on the DOS programming system he created thirty years ago. That is the difference between being rich and being wealthy.

    The best part of my life is that I am neither. More money = more problems -(c)The GOAT

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    ‘Return Of The Mac’ was dope too, but it doesn’t make it to the Top Five. The ‘Stuck On You’ instrumental stays on my rotation.

  • http://blogs.hiphopdx.com/meka Meka Soul

    >“At 36, [Jay-Z] is worth a reported $320 million dollars amassed in little more than 10 years”. From the Financial Times, November 3, 2006.

    That is “Wealthy”.>

    wrong.

    jay-z’s $320 mil: rich.
    the guy that’s signing jay-z checks: wealthy.
    carlos slim helú’s $68.7 billion: wealthy.

  • NoMamesBuey

    With BX Sunday being the 1st of 3 bloggers to have to give a good review of Finding Forever, the BX – Noz beef is settled.

    BX Sunday won. Noz lost.

  • tseliot

    explain to me, exactly, how whoring oneself out to corporate (read: white) america while speaking out of the other corner of one’s mouth against white america is progressive? i’d rather take “non-progressive” music that stays true to its roots over granola-munching, gap-wearing, opportunist bullshit any day. if you can honestly listen to ff and still think: “wow, common must really love hip-hop” then we need to trade ears because all i hear is an opportunist entirely bored with his trade and interested solely in making easy money.

    and btw, kanye and common over prodigy? you have to be fucking kidding me. go buy a tight sweatshop hoodie, bro, because your brothers in corporate america are vigorously nodding their heads in agreement right now.

  • Cuban Link

    Billy, no Cuuuuuuuuuuuurtis? I dont know about yall in other regions, but for those of you who have Hot 97, you can prolly relate.Hearing them mix 50 onto the original beat for Top Billin just got me so pumped for Curtis now.Billy, you best be checking into that.

    And what the flying fuck is up with a tornado being in the BK?Damn!And they said Global warming isnt really, that shits crazy!I thought I was safe from that kind of weather in my little apartment in Queens, but now, damn.

  • Tyler

    Great post Mr.Sunday. Keep’em poppin’ like that.
    SolutionsGlobalMedia.com aka SGM7.com
    Love it or Hate it, Tell a Friend.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    “i’d rather take “non-progressive” music that stays true to its roots over granola-munching, gap-wearing, opportunist bullshit any day.”

    What are these ROOTS that you are referring to? Common with the Roots playing behind him is church all day.

    Lil’ P’s shit is an aiight album and the best feeling I got from it was when it motivated me to unearth The Infamous and put it in my CD player turned up loud.

    FF is no ‘Like Water For Chocolate’ which I feel like defines Common’s career and his artistic acumen, but KanYe is a talented producer on the level of James Yancey when he isn’t too pre-occupied with feeling himself (yes Tudda).

  • tseliot

    “like water for chocolate” is no “resurrection.” i think it’s fair to say that common, after dropping the misogyny and thuggisms of his first album, has slid progressively, album to album. resurrection > one day it will all make sense > like water for chocolate > the rest of his garbage.

    oh, and having been to lollapalooza, i can say that the roots set was straight pander-to-hippie-fags bullshit. absolutely. awful. jam band tinkering on par with some grateful dead bullshit. very rarely did i hear any rap in the set, and the bulk of the “rap” i did end up hearing was some re-hashed radio-rap shit (i.e. odb, biz markie, sugarhill gang, etc.)

    my thoughts were only confirmed when i was driving down halsted and saw a huuuuge billboard promoting dave matthews band coming to town . . . with special guest the roots.

    and that, amigo, is the same road common is heading down.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    ^ Ha. The Roots fronting for Dave Matthews isn’t disturbing to me because I have watched them go from playing in tiny shitholes in NYC like Wetlands and SOB’s to selling out Radio City Hall for a Jay Dilla tribute. As they have evolved their audience has become progressively lighter. I’m sure there are brothers and sisters that effs with the Dave Matthews band though, and the Roots can play any room they want, for any crowd that wants them. Common is the same type of musician.

    I will bet you a dime to a dollar that Common spits that gutter fire when he performs this month at the Black August charity concert. If he put that same Black August freedom fighter attitude into all of his projects that nigga wouldn’t eat no more. The Gap wouldn’t fucks with him and all of the people with their misplaced sense of entitlement (read: the internets) would still be stealing their music anyhoo.

    I don’t mind the fact that Common has grown into a man as he stands in front of the microphone. It gives me hope that other artists can have similar transformations.

  • http://www.akirathedon.com AKD

    Droog, you gotta check Where Da G’s off of Dizzee rascal’s LP, which teams him with UGK nd is one of the best songs I have heard all year. Let it grow on you. It will not dissapoint.
    As for classic LPs, I dug out The Bricks by Outsidaz yesterday. Oh my days. Bump that from top to bottom, it is fucking ACE.

    Death To Lawyists.

  • render

    lmao, gotta love how broke ass niggas are arguing and debating over what constitutes “wealth” over the goddamn internet. Yea, 300 mil is chump change. Hov aint nothing but a corporate shill and marketing tool. Shuckin and jiving for da massa…smh

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    ^ Since I’m in one piece and my mind is unconquered I’m never broke bitch, but I do deal with what I choose to call “temporary deficits”.

  • clarknova

    Billy, Common has grown boring when he steps in front of a microphone. He’s still got talent for days but I haven’t felt that fire from him since “Like Water For Chocolate,” which for me will always be his best album. I really dislike the warm vanilla neo soul shite backdrops Kanye surrounds him with as well. Could more safe or boring rap music be made right now? I guess I’m old but I wanna hear him over shit like “1999,” not “Come Close.” As far as the other records on your list, I bought Joell Ortiz on your recommend and while he is a very talented MC, the beats were very meat and potatoes. I didn’t think the album was anything special, tho I was surly impressed with his flow. Jesus Price Superstar was nails tho! It’s too bad you hate on all southern shit and indie shit because there have been a few releases in each of those genres that have been very good this year. Noz can tell you about the Southern/Midwestern stuff and Bol can school you on the indie stuff. I think your list betrays your very narrow tastes… and yeah, I think putting Kanye’s record on the list bases on the first two singles alone is a safe bet. The man is a pain in the ass but he’s very, very good right now.

  • tseliot

    man, billy, i still don’t see for one second how being a two-faced opportunist can be called growing “into a man.” i guess we’ll always disagree on that. calling playing to your white audience “evolved” while common is talking trash about them as if he’s still hardcore is hardly a quality i would ever call a transformation.

    smells of a sell-out to me. oh, and as an after-thought, i’d never trust the hip-hop sense of any motherfucker who fucks with the dave matthews band. end.

  • Around and Around

    Billy, stick to arguing with tpar about tribes, music and shit, leave the legal arguments to the lawyers you’re out of your element like LOL, kriti-Q and Dark at rock the bells.

  • http://www.hater-nation.blogspot.com EReal

    Kanye’s flow sucks. Neither of his singles got my head noddin, plus he stays on Japans dick like crazy. This album is his attempt to finally go multi plat international.
    Neve bought a whole Kanye album, and Im not starting now. I will give it a spin and see, cause “Cant Tell Me Nothin” is alright, I mean cause of the hook, but his flow has me sleepin. Plus how you got Jizzy adlibbin on your hook with no verse?
    You’re tellin me that youre bumpin ‘Stronger’?? LOL!

    Click the Name Bitch!

  • http://www.hater-nation.blogspot.com EReal presents : Click The Name Bitch!

    smells of a sell-out to me. oh, and as an after-thought, i’d never trust the hip-hop sense of any motherfucker who fucks with the dave matthews band. end.
    ^^
    They smoke mad chronic, dosent that make them hiphop? LOL!

  • http://www.the-ugks.com Bun B

    You definitely stick to your guns Billy. I aint mad at ya! Nuff respect to you and your writing(I read Dallas Penn), cuz you don’t just try to stir up emotion, just speak how you feel, but you might eat those double brick words next Wednesday! Keep blogs alive! UGK 4 Life!

  • The Biz

    WAAAAAAHHHH! someone is getting sued and I need to vent along with my gay internet lover…WAAAAAHHHHHH!

  • http://ifux.blogspot.com I Fux

    I have listenend to the UGK and I actually Copped it and my thought process was lost when I was trying to conjure up an opinion on the album. But my inner Pimp C(God of Geography) told me to go a little bit to the right with my thoughts and suprisngly to me the album is quite dope. Also, Pimp C already Found Forever!

  • smog

    i copped both them joints, while i think that jay shit is important busta is pretty important to that guy is a great example of how hip hop has changed, busta went from skinny, dred having weed smoker to hulk like, short fade, andriod taker, hip hop straight up transformed that dude, i dont think that jay is gonna be that hard up, dude can prolly hire a good laywer,

  • suckaniggadickmakeaniggarich

    the real list
    1 kanye – graduation – it will probably be aight even though Im not really d with fag rappers
    2 50 – curtis – say what you will but “i get money” is fire and 50′s best work are on the albums…..not the singles
    3 papoose – the nacerima dream – just gonna be pure fire
    4 cassidy – bars – curous to see if he can keep my interest for longer than a freestyle
    5 joe buddens – mood musik 3- if we count this as an album!

  • BirdsFlySouth

    Billy stop writing this monkey s***. You embarrassing up. Yo blogs monkey. And you better not say nothing b/c I fight come with that. We fight it out, shoot it out, or stab it out. How every you want it.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    ^ Birdassnigger,
    You so thirsty for attention huh? You idolizes Lexington Steele in your email address. Whats really good homie? You want to decorate your chin with his ballsachs?

    Go to hell and then kill yourself. Are you happy now? You got a little comment directed at yourself. lame ass bird ass nigger.

  • boner jams 03

    don’t forget to pack your lunch…muggerlunch….

    i know what them is right now!!! too big BAYSIAN waffles…..

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    I Fux,
    There is no way you are bumping both UGK discs back to back. Unlesss you are riding for UGK hardbody. By the time I was onto Disc 2 my ass was worn the fuck out(extra nullus). I may not have enough space in my brain to listen to any more Southern rap this year. Now I pray that OutKast or Lucacris don’t release anything new until January.

  • SCARTOWN

    Good list Billy,people don’t give Sean P enough credit.Monkey Barz was one of the best albums of 07 hands down.Haven’t heard the new UGK yet,but Bun is always sick.Pimp C is sounding like a bitter old man these days but I’ll still give it a listen.

  • Redd

    Your comment to TPAR about community college offends me and implies that if you can’t afford to go to a 20 stack a year institution then you should remain uneducated. Atleast if your going to community your making some kind of effort instead of sitting on your ass smoking blunts all day and watching the price is right. Aint shit wrong with community college and don’t be telling these kids that.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    Redd,
    That is the truth and anyone that has been to college at all knows this. TPAR loves talking about his Ivy League education which is prah’lee mad suspect. Don’t feel a kind of ways. I’m a product of public schools and the city university system.

  • these posts are racist

    Redd,

    If you read the rest of Billy’s comments to me, he doesn’t even address my clear refutation of his positions, but rather does two things: Insults me and changes the argument to whether or not lawyers profit the most from legal disputes.

    Don’t take his insults personally, that’s just an act of desperation when he knows he got ethered and is debating with someone who has more knowledge and uses logic to clearly refute what he says.

    I respect everyone trying to better themselves. I don’t respect cats who state positions then can’t handle when they get beat in an argument and have to resort to insults and changing the issues.

  • BirdsFlySouth

    Billy X
    1. The qoute was a joke it’s from a Pimp C interview.

    2. I idolize Lexington Steele b/c we share similar traits.

    3. Billy you idolize ODB b/c you and he are crackheads.

    PS. I think that little stint in prison (for serving cats in the alley for 5 bucks) has convinced you that you’re hard body. I on the other have never been to prison and just happen to be a corporate negro. But I’m still 6’2 225lb former D1 wideout so physically you don’t want it.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    TPAR,

    You BEATING me in a debate is like Jay-Z calling himself the Michael Jordan of rap recording. No matter how many times he says it and how many fools believe it that doesn’t make it truth.

    Michael Jordan made others around him better players, what do you do again?

    Exactly.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    ^ Birdassnigger,
    I’m over six feet tall and over 300lbs and you don’t want it. But then again, when your hero is a porn star because y’all share similar traits you may just want it, but I ain’t giving it to you like that.

    I guess you representing all that new ghey shit that Hip-Hop is perpetrating. No wonder you ride for Wayne all day. Don’t bother me with your ghey shit. If you wanna fight because you feel like you have to defend ghey Wayne and all of hip-hops homo thugs I will be at Turner Field next week when Barry comes to ATL.

    Keep in touch, but definitely nullus to you faggot.

  • these posts are racist

    Billy,

    Another insult filled paragraph of weak metaphors and trash talk. You are the MJ of trash talking, but anyone who reviews our exchange in this thread will agree who wins on substance.

  • Around and Around

    MJ of trash talking…and obviously of eating if you over 6 foot and 3 bills. Lay off the white boy weed it’s giving you munchies

  • BirdsFlySouth

    Dude I’m 7% body fat. You 300lbs of lard. No contest. And if you think I’ll travel to Atl just to beat up a fat kid you gotta be joking. You see I make way to much money for that nonsense.

    Y is everything and everybody that doesn’t agree with you gay? I take it somebody didn’t fair to well in prison. And another thing Y are you so proud of spending time in the booty house oops I mean big house?

    PS. You more like ODB then I thought both of yall are fat crackheads.

  • Cuban Link

    suckaniggadickmakeaniggarich Says:

    August 9th, 2007 at 11:23 am
    the real list
    1 kanye – graduation – it will probably be aight even though Im not really d with fag rappers
    2 50 – curtis – say what you will but “i get money” is fire and 50’s best work are on the albums…..not the singles
    3 papoose – the nacerima dream – just gonna be pure fire
    4 cassidy – bars – curous to see if he can keep my interest for longer than a freestyle
    5 joe buddens – mood musik 3- if we count this as an album!

    ^co-sign, but Id flip the order

    1.Pappy (we’ve been waiting for this a minute now)

    2.Fiddy (he knows his clicks getting hate, so he should step it up)

    3.Cassidy (jail time and a car accident should inspire him to drop that classic we’ve wanted)

    4. Kanye (Stronger is dope, but I duno if his CD will be better than his last 2)

    5. Budden (prolly gonna be the greatest CD, but a mixtape can only get you so pumped, Im waiting for something to take over the world this year)

  • Content

    “over 300 pounds”

    you got a radio show too?

  • roc

    The Cool will be the best Hip-Hop cd of 2007. FNF up^. Lupe is a monster.He’s better then anyone on your list.

  • boner jams 03

    2. I idolize Lexington Steele b/c we share similar traits.

    gayest shit i ever heard…

  • redd

    Billy and TPAR,
    Thanks for clearing that up.

  • DirtDoggy

    These posts are racist, are you a white female ? not that it matters but please expose yourself, your that intelligant dumb bitch correct ? anyway Billy X rated sluts, are we talking sales or best MC’s this year ? 50′s not on the list so I asume you were speaking of lyrical skills. Your fake ass list>>>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube/myspace mc’s on your average block and unheard mc’s across the galaxy. Kanye is ill though minus the starwars glasses.

  • DirtDoggy

    Ya I’ll co-signature Cuban rope chain, Cass ain’t gonna sell but a true mc/hip-hop head would rather hear some crafty rhymes. Honestly best mc of 2007 wise Pap/Cass toss up this year, actually Kaneasy is nice wit it too, he has the best flow, but j-z coppy, but he is origional and doesn’t rely on fake gangster shit so I’ll roll with Keezy but shit man he need to stop reppin faggot clothing designers. Make your own shit if anything (I know he’s already going to do that) well hury up mutherfucker, times up.

    Holla at me Kaneasy, I got an imagination of a wizard with a style of a inventor and don’t follow nobody (dnmyls(at)yahoo.ca) let’s invent that new shit, haaa,just playin, freshclothing@dopefreshness.magic

  • Cuban Link

    ^co-sign about Kanye, people wont take him seriously if he keeps dressing up in sweater vests and that shit.The only one who can pull off dressing like a fag is Andre 3000, and thats because he will sit you right back down as soon as he opens his mouth (no homo)

    And @ Roc, I would add Lupe to the list, but I seriously doubt he’s actually gonna drop this year.Same goes for Eminem, if I found out for sure he was dropping this year, both of em would be on the list.