White Hip-Hop Fans > Black Rap Fans

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Throw ya’ hands in the sky and make the ‘W’ for white people.

Thank you white baby Jesus for giving me white people. Thank you for their pasty, melanin-challenged skin tone, their blue eyes and their blonde hair. Thank you for making them love Hip-Hop. Enough so to come out 50,000 deep in the pouring rain to listen to some of the greatest Hip-Hop music ever created. And in some cases, the pinnacle of obscure niche-related rap music. Whatever shit you are into, thank you white folks for saving Hip-Hop.

Sunday’s Rock The Bells concert went down in a massive downpour, but that didn’t stop the greatest music ever from being performed and it surely didn’t stop people from coming to the show. White people that is. But in all truthfulness, Black people weren’t coming to this concert anyhoo. It’s funny to me that this concert wasn’t even on Black people’s radars. Most live Hip-Hop concerts are never on Black people’s agendas. As a matter of fact, I can honestly say that nowadays the majority of Black folks experience with rap music out of doors is usually only from a car stereo system. I suppose that too many Blacks are trying to become rappers than remain fans. In all fairness, there were some Black folks at the concert that weren’t a part of the rapper entourages, but you kids already know that white folks have this outdoor concert shit OnSmash.

Shouts to eskay who engineered press passes for the iNternets Celebrites crew to attend the music festival. The people that put this shit together treated the press like shit too by not letting us fuck with the craft services or the free shit. I go to these joints and I expect to get some free grub and at the very least a fucking free t-shirt. Not at this event. I couldn’t even get a bottle of water from these promoters. I’m not thanking those white people in this drop. I’m thanking all the white people that came from miles away and mud wrestled, and also let me drink their beer and smoke their weed with no problem, and all the white people who recited the entire song of Wu-Tang’s opus ‘Triumph’ word for word. Without you, this Hip-Hop shit would be dead already. Black folks, y’all need to step up your Hip-Hop love. Have a park jam or something where the deejay pulls power from a streetlamp. Walk around with a big ass piece of cardboard and just put it down and breakdance. Go steal a can of Krylon and cop some tags somewhere, but just become Hip-Hop again. Black people, you’ve relied on your skintone for too long to automatically express your love of Hip-Hop and I no longer believe you. You need more people.

My favorite performer of the festival was MF Doom who wore a camoflage hooded sweatshirt that made him look like Godzilla with a mask on. Also the vintage Darryl Strawberry jersey was priceless. Mos Def and Talib were on point and Mos didn’t offend my sensibilities too much with his singing or his JaFaican chanting. Rakim the god emcee did his thing. It’s good to see dude getting some work in to pay off them broads suing his ass for child support. Cypress Hills is still getting me high after all these years, well actually, the white folks that came to see Cypress and brought their official white boy weed. White boy weed > anything you will smoke with a Black dude, including crack. I love Public Enemy and their set was solid as always even though Flav was allowed to veer off on some experimental Sun Ra shit. Rage Against The Machine closed the show. If you wonder why we love these dudes so much, but we never go out and try to put into action some of the revolutionary shit they talk about you can blame the White Boy weed. It’s that good.

The highlight of the day for me was the Wu, of course. Their catalog of hits along with Method Man’s unsurmountable energy will guarantee a great show from these dudes every time you see them. You know all the hits from ‘C.R.E.A.M.’ to ‘Liquid Swords’ to ‘Shame On A Nigga’ and so on. I can’t wait to be seventy years old and see these dudes performing in Las Vegas as a classic Hip-Hop revue act. The odds are that it will be me and ton of seventy year old white folks as well. Black folks might be into making rap music, but when it comes to supporting true Hip-Hop artistry, not so much.

  • Truth

    It’s sad to say, but it’s been that way for a minute. If they ain’t snappin/leanin niggas don’t care. The kids that most need to hear Mos’ messages could care less cuz of his lack of “swag”.

  • Incilin

    Yeah, it’s true; white people domninate shows. Its usually like 90% white in every show I go to. But I think black people do show up to shows like Summer Jam. I aint neva been to summer jam but that’s what i hear, maybe someone here can correct me.

    I’m surprised you thought Mos and Kweli were on point, I felt they were a little off. More so Kweli than Mos. And Monch killed it again. Cypress Hill was insane (B-Real had the biggest joint I’ve ever seen) Wu was crazy, but Rage was even crazier. Them white boys dont play.

  • http://www.myspace.com/bkcyph BK CYPH

    You trippin’ Rakim’s set was wack. I was highly disappointed in the God. I mean he had 20 years to get his shit together. He was off-beat for most of it.
    Cypress killed it- white folks love them some Cypress and PE was cool. But as one of the few persons of color in the crowd that shit was a weird expirence.

  • derfla the hus’la

    huh?

  • mike

    What’s even more ironic, is that they go to the grassroot concerts, where real hip hop is, and we, black people go to cop Eminem in the store. Shit is truly twisted.

    • rhymedyme

      r u saying eminem isnt hip hop cuz that dnt make sense to me?

  • http://www.top10gpt.com Baby

    Man, I hate I’m on the other side of the country. Sounds like that was one heck of an event.

    All whites = No shootings? lol

  • http://www.rich-arte.blogspot.com Rich Arte

    good point…black people do need to support the artists they like. When T.I. and Yung Joc came to my city for the KING tour, I went to see him, and there were more blacks than whites. I guess it depends on the artist.

  • http://myspace.com/hotboxbeats SCARTOWN

    This article is on point,White people do respect the CULTURE more.I have yet to meet white people who claim that snap/pop shit as hip hop but black be loving that shit.Oh yeah……White boy weed……Lime green,Frosty and will knock you on your ass!Believe that.

  • Dana

    That is true that white people support the real hip-hop.Me myself I’m a MF DOOM fan and a lot of white people love him because I been to his show.I think if it’s not getting us rowd up and it has something to deal with real music(samples and such) and messages blacks don’t cop it period.I’m a young black man and I support the music with messages and great music.One

  • BirdsFlySouth

    We’re just above the curve. Others take a while to realize that those rap acts are lame. For instance if the DJ in 40/40 plays “Baby Got Back” in the club he’ll get booed out of the spot. But if the DJ at Bubba’s DOESN’T play “Baby Got Back” he’ll be booed out of the spot.

    Wake me when Common and Kanye drop.

    • rhymedyme

      r u saying u like kanye and common oru dnt lik kanye and common?

  • Nate

    Its kinda true, but dude, sound racist to me…

  • http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/cleanguns2 Zilla Rocca

    I think a big problem is that the majority of rappers today have no live show to speak of. Everyone you named came from an era where you had to be an original MC to be put on, but more importantly, you had to kill shit live to be respected.

    That’s why Public Enemy will be playing shows until they’re 80 years old but Yung Berg can’t even do a mini-tour by himself.

    People got used to just buying/downloading/bootlegging music for their cars rather than experiencing shit live. And most cats today are a friggin joke on stage, so I don’t blame them.

  • http://www.myspace.com/chronikill ROX ONE

    haha.. I was outside the concert on saturday and heard PE’s set, which was a lot of Flavor Flav being Flavor Flav..

  • LOL

    ROCK THE BELLS = FRIENDLY ‘WHITE APPROVED HIPHOP’ FOR UR AVERAGE INDIE ROCK FAN.

    WHEN THESE SAME ARTISTS WERE CURRENT. THEY WERE CONSIDERED ‘NOT REAL MUSIC’ BY THESE SAME PEOPLE.

    THESE WHITE PEOPLE ALWAYS DICKRIDE OLD BLACK TRENDS BECAUSE ITS SAFE , AND BLACK PEOPLE HAVE GENERALLY MOVED ON TO SOMETHING ELSE.

  • LOL

    NIGGERS ALWAYS GIVING WHITE PEOPLE SO MUCH CREDIT.

    FUCKOUTTA HERE.

    SO WHITE PEOPLE DICKRIDE OLD SKOOL HIPHOP BIG FUCKING DEAL.

    they only do it cause its credible…… NOW!

    • rhymedyme

      i feel u joe

  • hokus

    Don’t sound so suprised. I been bangin’ all that shit for years and lovin’ rap music sice the late ’80′s. White people love rap music and have to go deep with it otherwise they just look like posers. Also, alot of these white kids just do festivals all summer long, all kinds of different music, too, usually real grass roots sorta shit. And yes, my weed will leave you R-E-T-A-R-D-E-D!
    Thanx for noticing.

  • May

    Black folks, y’all need to step up your Hip-Hop love. Have a park jam or something where the deejay pulls power from a streetlamp. Walk around with a big ass piece of cardboard and just put it down and breakdance. Go steal a can of Krylon and cop some tags somewhere, but just become Hip-Hop again.

    ^^^LOL!

  • DANJA29

    yeah… it’s kinda hard to call, but one thing’s for sure- we (black people) have gotten increasingly closed-minded with this hip-hop shit. i dunno if all these white people who show up @ events like this are trying to make up for their previous non-knowledge of hip-hop or if they’re genuinely into it- but a lot of us are PROUD to know nothing about hip-hop and not even care unless it’s some “gangsta” shit or somethin’ you can dance to.

    • rhymedyme

      if u dnt mind me asking r u danja the female rapper by any chance??

  • dolo

    BIlly i have to disagree with u .. Mos def sucked ass .. i guess hes too busy actin to do any cut from black on both sides ( he did a verse and a half from Ms fat booty) .. where da fuckk was GFK .. WU did their thing .. RA was slightly off beat but a dope show and greatest dj of all time .i missed bcc doom and Immortal .. i must say they’re not the greatest rap fans cuz 90% of them couldnt recite a dam Ra Lyric… it was funny seing folks pass out and get rushed to First AId for drinkin too much bud lite

  • LOL

    im not surprised white kids are the only ones breakdancing and graffing now….because its old shit therefore ‘cool’ and black ppl have moved on, so it’s now safe for white people to do it. These are the same white kids who were calling it not real music back in the day…dont get it twisted

    not only white people

    japanses ppl , hispanic ppl, indian ppl dickride black culture and music. African Americans decide whats hot and whats relivant in hiphop and its genres of music, if it doesnt sell to black ppl, its not hot. if it sells to black ppl, it’ll sell to white ppl. not vice versa. thats what the premise of the white rapper show was about. And it got afew white rappers mad cause its the truth. if u dont understand that i feel bad for u. SMH. black ppl just cant win. they always have to stay losing. its a sad mentality of the african american….now hiphop is successful you have to attack it. smh

    I REPEAT…ROCK THE BELLS IS FOR WHITE PEOPLE.

    • rhymedyme

      hip hop is NOT successfull..its dead lik nas said…bt its slowly reviving cuz we gettin sum good rappers on board

  • LOL

    ROCK THE BELLS = FRIENDLY ‘WHITE APPROVED CREDIBLE HIPHOP’ FOR UR AVERAGE INDIE ROCK FAN.

  • triplesixninja

    LOL Says:

    July 30th, 2007 at 10:06 am
    ROCK THE BELLS = FRIENDLY ‘WHITE APPROVED HIPHOP’ FOR UR AVERAGE INDIE ROCK FAN.

    WHEN THESE SAME ARTISTS WERE CURRENT. THEY WERE CONSIDERED ‘NOT REAL MUSIC’ BY THESE SAME PEOPLE.

    THESE WHITE PEOPLE ALWAYS DICKRIDE OLD BLACK TRENDS BECAUSE ITS SAFE , AND BLACK PEOPLE HAVE GENERALLY MOVED ON TO SOMETHING ELSE.
    LOL Says:

    July 30th, 2007 at 10:08 am
    NIGGERS ALWAYS GIVING WHITE PEOPLE SO MUCH CREDIT.

    FUCKOUTTA HERE.

    SO WHITE PEOPLE DICKRIDE OLD SKOOL HIPHOP BIG FUCKING DEAL.

    they only do it cause its credible…… NOW!

    SHUT UP PUSSY
    IM a 25 year old whiteboy whose been bumping the realness since i was 13
    longer than your faggot ass

  • s dot b

    LOL says…
    “WHEN THESE SAME ARTISTS WERE CURRENT. THEY WERE CONSIDERED ‘NOT REAL MUSIC’ BY THESE SAME PEOPLE.”

    Chiggity check yo self before you wreck yo self dogg. Chuck D said himself that when P.E. was touring in the eighties and early nineties it was mostly white folks chanting fight the power at thier shows.
    Peace and fishgrease

  • triplesixninja

    whiteboys have always been in the frontlines of this rap game. who presented mtv with the idea for yo mtv raps? a whiteboy r.i.p. i dont remember his name. and yes i chief killa weed as well. this article couldnt have been more onpoint.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    ^ I didn’t mind Mos’ or Talib’s set. Mos almost didn’t get there on time. Rakim was unrehearsed and if you go to a live show and expect to hear a record sound like it does on your iPod you have lost. I’ve seen Rakim perform a million times and he never leaves me dissing his stage performance. Most of the kids out there were not even born when Rakim first dropped, but they were smart enough and fans enough to support the God. That makes them kids more Hip-Hop than anything.

    True story is that even though it may have rained ridiculously some kids weren’t drinking enough water. In that heat after seven hours mad kids were falling out.

  • EReal

    I never understood that whole thing, every time theres real hiphop mentioned its always “Thats White Boy Shit” its like WTF!? So white people are the only ones that are hiphop?

    Sheesh.

    1 hunned.

  • http://xxlmagazine.com Cal

    Na man what the article is saying today is true. I only got beef with whities that pose and try to assimilate to an already bullshit music industry such as snap, crunk and all that southern nonesense but thats not what i’m here to talk about. We keep hating these guys and there the same ones propelling our artists. For instance those who like TI were rooting for the album to keep selling and selling. Blacks who like him are happy as hell to see the dudes sales rise but are they the ones coppin it every week? NOOOooo! In a twisted scenario these white kids we hate so much are supporting our artists more than we are. Its true people are too busy trying to become rappers but the true sales and supporters of hip hop seem to be these bleached up mafuckers we hate so much. I’m not advocating for white people but I can see clearly how shit is.
    This one dude here’s stating that we only cop Em’s shit while his kind go to grassroot concerts man they outnumber us by far in both no doubt. I’m an Em supporter and trying to bring him into this whole white thing is crazy as he doesn’t shoot himself into either groups.

  • suckaniggadickmakeaniggarich

    IT AINT ABOUT BLACK AND WHITE – PERIOD. IT IS ABOUT GOOD MUSIC AND PEOPLES OPINION OF WHAT THAT IS….

    “White boy weed > anything you will smoke with a Black dude, including crack.”

    GOT WORK?

  • http://myhangover.wordpress.com/ Big Homie

    Yes I have seen and noticed this for quite awhile. White people love them some true real Hip Hop. I noticed it at Sean P or any Boot Camp Clik shows, Ghost and the Wu, Tribe, Lupe, Common..etc. No matter the weather or location, they will be there and love Hip Hop just as much as the rest, even more.

  • Ryan

    LOL is pretty much a dirty racist cocksucker who has no clue what he’s talking about. He’s yet to back up any of his claims with concrete evidence or let me know what he thinks “real, non white boy hip hop is” cause he’s full of shit. I started out listening to hip hop before I got into any other kind of music, but going to hardcore shows got me into loving the live music setting and got me to attend more hip hop (and any kind of show in general) shows. I wish I wasn’t broke from every kind of bill possible and could have gone to witness what happened either Saturday or Sunday.

  • The Spaniard

    A lot of white (non-black) hip-hop fans I know have no frame of reference to a large amount of the slang, events, or topics of some of their favorite songs, yet they know every single word verbatim. That is really strange to me.

  • JazzydaluvBUG

    May Says:

    July 30th, 2007 at 10:19 am
    Black folks, y’all need to step up your Hip-Hop love. Have a park jam or something where the deejay pulls power from a streetlamp. Walk around with a big ass piece of cardboard and just put it down and breakdance. Go steal a can of Krylon and cop some tags somewhere, but just become Hip-Hop again.

    ^^^LOL!

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I wanna bring it back to the old dayz in my neighboorhood, but now we have certaint CHARGES to worry about like…UNLAWFUL BLOCK PARTY and them PIGS runnin up and saying you and your friends are a gang and have to dispurse from where u are ( thanks to a new NY State LAW stating a group of 3 or more, dressing alike and or enganging in the same activities is a gang).. Now I don’t know about yall hoods but in mine in upstate, NY bieng black and loving yourself and culture is a CRIME, and displaying any form of that.. (Even battle rapping in the park)..will get u ran up on and probally searched and ya name ran for the night!!! so yeah i think downloads and bootlegs are the future in my neighboorhood… SORRY TO SAY!!!

  • Incilin

    I’m tired of that bullshit about the heat. Yes it was hot. Yes some people fell out due to the heat. But the vast majority of people that fell out fell out because of the drinking and smoking they was doing. I was trying to buy water turns out no ones selling it. In the end, I got plenty of it for free from the medical tent. And while I was at the medical tent I seen a dude wit his head cracked. Shit was wild.

  • Combat Jack

    I defend the fact that Black people are not into mud-wrestling and standing in the rain, getting dirty and what-not.

  • smog

    i think your definition of “suppport” is a little limited also, the lack of black people at a hip hop shows is for two things first it represents how racist our society is, to go to a show you need resources out the ass, free time, (no such thing) a way to get to the show, and some way to get in. Thats alot of shit, alot of black people dont got dems, while alot of white people do, plus alot of black people no a mother fucker who can rap from down the street how they about to go out of thier way to hear a dude rap, most white people have only heard raping through electricty, by that i mean through a mic or on some speakers. few white people have actually stood next to someone rapping, which of course is the best way to hear it, like bol says live hip hop sort of sucks anyway, by the way no tpar on this whole response

  • BIZZLE

    I saw a mos def show about 2 weeks ago and it was average at best…did this dude fall off like that?

  • BlackGenius

    Hey look at the bright side if more blacks showed up it probably would have been some people shot.I just call it how I see it we don’t know how to act at concerts 4real.

  • BIG ROB

    I think LOL has sand in his Vagina because he couldn’t rock to some real hip hop. He needs an intervention. He probably thinks Cash Money Millionaires is the best group ever. LOL GET THA FUCK OUT OF HERE WITH THAT BULL SHIT! You need to go to the mosque or something.

  • HNIC

    “Thank you white baby Jesus for giving me white people. Thank you for their pasty, melanin-challenged skin tone, their blue eyes and their blonde hair. Thank you for making them love Hip-Hop…”

    Shake and Bake!

    Sorry, I had to do it…

    Moving on, Billy, indulge me by allowing me to pose this question to you. If you weren’t given preferential treatment, such as free access to the event, and you had to pay out of your own pocket, would you have attended the event?

    I think that hip hop in its current state and even since it’s inception has been a trendy art form. Meaning that its influence dictates popular culture; so, if you don’t keep up with the trend, then you’re left behind. That is why the general consensus is that most hip hop fans are very fickle. They don’t support artists that have been in the game for years, because they’re no longer considered to be trendy/popular. Time waits for no man. You either reinvent yourself, or you get left behind. That’s what makes the difference.

  • BARRY WHITE

    IF YOU HAVE TACKY JEWELRY, WACK DANCE MOVES, IGNORANT LYRICS, AND SOMEBODY GETTING SHOT THEN BLACK PEOPLE WILL BE THERE…WIPE ME DOWN!

  • N.O. 4 life

    THAT AINT TRUE….the same percentage of white people that like bubblegum are the same percentage of black people that like bubblegum…the same goes for real hip hop….its just since there are far more white people in america than black the actual numbers are gonna be lopsided….plus white people usually have a little more money than the average black person to support hip hop….

  • LOL

    LOL@ RYAN GOING TO HARDCORE SHOWS….

    I REST MY CASE. LOL

    YOU PRESENTED THE EVIDENCE URSELF.

    KEEP BUMPIN THAT WHITE BOY HIPHOP THEY PLAY ON INDIE ROCK STATIONS.

    SEE YOU AT ROCK THE BELLS NEXT YEAR.

    GET MAD.

  • RLW

    I know what you mean Sunday, I went to a Del the Funkee Homosapien concert the other day, and out of maybe 100 people who turned out (SHAMEFUL turnout for a legend by the way) there were 2 black people. This is a bigger gap than in the US, because the concert was in Hamilton, Canada (that explains the low turnout for you..) but that didn’t stop it from being weird. Both Del and I got over the awkwardness of 100 white hipsters by showing up high as fuck.

  • LOL

    THERE IS ALWAYS A SUBSECTION OF THE WHITE POPLATION THAT ARE INTERESTED IN STYLES MUSIC AND TRENDS FROM THE BLACK COMMUNITY. THATS A FACT.

    BUT HIPHOP IS AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURES MUSIC. POINT BLANK PERIOD.

    MOST OF THESE CRACKER BACKPACKERS WERE THERE TO SEE FAGGOTY WHITE BOY NERD RAP AND RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE.

    SMH , AT BRAIN WASHED NIGGERS GIVIN WHITE BOYS CREDIT.

  • Whitey McCracker

    Why is it that because I’m white I can’t “really” be down with hip-hop? Is my personal musical preference just an act? I guess I’m trying real hard to get a G-Pass?

    Truth be told, I love hip-hop!! I listen to it when I wake up in the morning, on my shitty communte, in my headphones at work, and loud as fuck when I get home. But I guess that’s all “just an act”.

    Real hip-hop fans will always go listen to real hip-hop. I will do it while smoking my “whiteboy weed”, and I won’t pass any to LO., racist fuck.

  • Ace

    white kids are holding up hip-hop music, but let’s not give them too much credit. They listen to just as much bad music as the black kids. On a corollary, why do white kids love Public Enemy and dead prez? I’ve never understood this at all. It’s fine if you do, but I never understood that at all.

  • suckaniggadickmakeaniggarich

    @ LOL

    my name is a combination of your mother’s best talent and your race-related low IQ.

    So it leaves me only one question….chicken or duck?

  • http://www.haterfree.com 360 bars

    correction, 99% of the time when a black boy pulls a gun theres just shots fired.. people rarely get hit. the reason behind that is because black people cant aim (possibly from all the grease in their hand or lotion)

  • QUIETSTORM

    So, LOL, tell us what the new big ‘cool’ thing for blacks is, you cutting edge negro. I’m white and taking notes

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    billy xxx you can’t be serious crakka ass honkys is one of many reasons why hiphop is fucked up.White folks r a bunch of fuckin prepatraitors that keep tryna get involved wit a culture that has notin to do wit em hiphop is for black folks.”Black folks, y’all need to step up your Hip-Hop love.”you really can’t be serious you soundin like a house negro.black folks started hiphop in the south bronx.fuck white ppl in hiphop white ppl need to go make dey corny ass punk rock and new age coon uncle tom ass niggas can go join em like shop boys wit dat party like a rockstar bullshit.I get tired of honkys nowadays thinkin they got to be involved wit everyything i mean look at BET brain washin entertainment television it is owned by some jewish mafucka what do some jewish guy know?How bout faggots like scot storch dis lil white bitch.Shit is fucked up whiteboys in the burbs who try to front like the Gs shit is ridicuolous.crakkas go away fuck off get ur own culture.

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    P.S. dude who goes by LOL couldn’t agree more wit u.

  • The Spaniard

    “why do white kids love Public Enemy and dead prez”

    I think it’s because even though they sound as if they are on some “kill whitey” shit. What they are really saying is “kill” oppresive and/or evil whites.

    The white cats that like these groups don’t see themselves as part of this racist group of whites regardless of the fact that they can easily assimliate back into that group if shit goes bad for them.

  • The Spaniard

    “where my niggas with the big-titty blondes on their arm?”

    Probably shooting hoops at any random west coast D-1 university. (USC, UCLA, San Diego State, etc…)

  • Jax

    Its sad I guess. But the reason why black folk don’t listen to that crap is because its completely artistically invalid. I mean don’t get me wrong Wu-Tang in their day put out some quality material, but most of MF Doom, Kweli, and their ilk is pure garbage. Rich Boy’s “Throw Some D’s” was better constructed, more sincere, and I would say even more universal than any of the detritus put out by the likes of Kweli or especially any Wu member (ghost excluded) since 98. Face it, “Hip-Hop” is garbage, white people listen because its less threatening and they can relate, but its not reflective of the black experience. Music doesn’t have to have a higher purpose to be good, in fact some would argue that the best creations have always delved into the wages of sin. The point is that we should look at rappers as any other artist not as crappy politicians. They should tell us something about themselves not preach platitudes. After all, what the hell do I care about what Kweli thinks about GW Bush. I’d rather hear his brother’s opinion (Supreme Court Clerk / Yale Law Grad), but then probably not really.

  • LOL

    QUIETSTORM YOU DICKRIDE BLACK CULTURE , YOU CANT EVEN ADMIT IT TO URSELF.

    ITS HARD FOR ANY WHITE PERSON TO ADMIT IT.

    THATS WHY THEY BUY INTO THIS WHOLE. ‘HIPHOP IS A CULTURE/WE ARE THE WORLD BULLSHIT’.

    BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE TO ADMIT TO THEMSELVES THAT HIPHOP IS ONE OF THE FORMS OF MUSIC OF AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE.

    ITS CLEAR AS DAY WHATS HOT TO BLACK PEOPLE.

    AND THERE ARE ALOT OF WHITE KIDS THAT DICKRIDE IT TOO, JUST LIKE SOME WERE DICKRIDIMG RUN DMC , AND P.E. BACK IN THE DAY.

    BUT THE GREATER WHITE POPULATION/ROCK FANS WERE SAYIN IT WASN’T REAL MUSIC. AND IT WOULDNT EVEN GET ON MTV.

    THOSE SAME INDIE ROCK FANS, SHUN WHATS PEOPLE WITH BLACK KIDS NOW, AND THE WHITE KIDS THAT DO LIKE IT A LABELLED ‘WIGGERS’.

    THE HIPPY CROWD AT ROCK THE BELLS LISTEN TO HIPHOP THATS DEEMED ‘OK’ FOR WHITE PEOPLE TO LISTEN TO. MOST OF THE ACTS ON THE BILL WERE WHITE NERD RAP.

    AND BRAINWASHED NIGGERS LIKE BILLY X FAGDAY IS THINKING ‘OMGZ THEY REALLY LOVE HIPHOP’

    DUMB ASS.

  • Ryan

    I like PE and dead prez cause it’s good hip hop, plain and simple. I don’t feel offended by any kind of “kill whitey” sentiment, cause I know it’s not aimed at every white person that exists. LOL you can laugh at the fact that I like hardcore or any other kind of music that I’m into but you’ve yet to tell me what you think legit hip hop is. Give me something concrete and I’ll respect your arguments, until then you ain’t shit.

    Dark, people might possibly respect what you have to say when you learn how to spell and stop typing bullshit like this:

    White folks r a bunch of fuckin prepatraitors that keep tryna get involved wit a culture that has notin to do wit em hiphop is for black folks

  • Ryan

    I like PE and dead prez cause it’s good hip hop, plain and simple. I don’t feel offended by any kind of “kill whitey” sentiment, cause I know it’s not aimed at every white person that exists. LOL you can laugh at the fact that I like hardcore or any other kind of music that I’m into but you’ve yet to tell me what you think legit hip hop is. Give me something concrete and I’ll respect your arguments, until then you ain’t shit.

    Dark, people might possibly respect what you have to say when you learn how to spell and stop typing bullshit like this:

    White folks r a bunch of fuckin prepatraitors that keep tryna get involved wit a culture that has notin to do wit em hiphop is for black folks

  • thoreauly77

    so all his time i’ve been savih hip-hop? i should have been saving my money.

  • http://xxl suckaniggadickmakeaniggarich

    @ DARK
    I THINK IT IS A SAFE ASSUMPTION TO SAY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT AS SMART AS A STACK OF TWIGS COVERED IN DOG SHIT. OKAY, OKAY….MAYBE BIRD SHIT….BUT THAT IS ONLY IN THE MORNING AFTER YOU HAVE YOUR VITAMINS.

  • LOL

    LEGIT HIPHOP IS WHATEVER HIPHOP AFRICAN AMERICANS MAKE AND WHATEVER IS POPULAR IN THE AFRICAN AMEICANR COMMUNITY. END OF STORY.

    I DONT HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING TO YOU. THERE U GO AGAIN WITH UR WHITE MENTALITY ACTING LIKE I HAVE TO PROVE SOMETHING TO YOU. I DONT HAVE TO DO SHIT.

    YOUR OPINION ON HIPHOP DOESNT MATTER.
    THATS THE TRUTH.

    U CAN NEVER UNDERSTAND WHAT DEAD PREZ OR P.E ARE TALKING ABOUT. BUT U FRONT LIKE U LOVE THEM FOR COOL POINTS.

    FORREAL. STICK TO FUCKING GAY ASS HARDCORE MUSIC AND CRAKAS SCREAMING DOWN A MICROPHONE.

    AND TYPICAL WHITE TACTIC..UR TELLIN DARK ABOUT TYPOS. INSTEAD OF ADMITTIN THAT HE’S RIGHT.

    SMH.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    LOL,
    Youre ignorance and unfettered stupidity is what is killing Hip-Hop. How stupid are you to not understand that Hip-Hop is NOT Black culture? When Hip-Hop arose from the South Bronx it was born out of systemic poverty that Blacks, Latinos and whites all lived under. Hip-Hop was the artistic expression of people that were left for dead in the fiscal depression of the post-Richard Nixon early seventies.

    The fact that Hip-Hop deejays from the very first day would cut up breaks from groups like The Clash or LedZeppelin or the Doors and use them to recreate elaborate soundscapes means that Hip-Hop music is in effect EVERYONES music. It’s for the rock heads and the punk rockers and the latin jazzers and the old school soul music fools.

    Some of you on this thread possess a shameful level of misunderstanding, and worse still bigotry. Every person I saw at that concert was truly Hip-Hop because they have genuine love the music and the culture, and their presence in the rain soaked mud was the only i.d. card they needed to present.

    Kill yourself on a cruise ship LOL so at least that way you save your momma the thousands of burying your stupid ass.

  • KRITIQ

    so billy you gonna give white people credit for starting the hiphop movement?

    the very same people who thought rap whould not go anywhere when it started off.

    get the fuckouter here with that dick riding, you starting to sound like a house nigga

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    Kritiq,
    You simple fucking simon, POOR people started Hip-Hop. Can you read nigger? POOR people, the disenfranchised. Is poor and disenfranchised synonymous with Black culture? Youre a stupid waste of your daddy’s sperm. Your’e prah’lee the reason that he didn’t marry your momma.

    One more thing for you to know. Queers faggots love using the letter Q in their names for phonetic spelling. So now that explains why your’e an asshole. You are what you eat shitbag.

  • LOL

    DEAR BILLY X,

    WHY DO WHITE PPL ALWAYS TRY TO CONVEY THE BRONX IN THE 1970′S AS SOME KIND OF UNITED COLOURS OF BENETTON , UTOPIA, WHERE WHITES, BLACKS AND LATINOS. WERE HOLDING HANDS AND SKIPPING IN THE STREETS BREAKDANCINGS AND SPRAY PAINTING THE WALLS OF THE NYC.

    GETTHEFUCKOUTTAHERE

    IT DOESNT MATTER WHERE SAMPLES COME FROM..SOME PEOPLE SAMPLE BHRANGA. (GHANDI WAS HIPHOP TOO)….IM NOT EVEN GONNA MENTION THAT HIPHOP HAS MORE OF ANASSOCIATION WITH REGGAE THAN IT DOES ANY CLASH SAMPLE. OR THAT THE CLASH AND PUNK ALSO DICKRODE REGGAE (NO HOMO), OR THAT LED ZEP STOLE A BUNCH OLD BLUES SONGS AND NEVER PAID ANY ROYALITIES… THATS NOT THE POINT.

    THE POINT IS , WHERE EVER THERE IS A LARGE BLACK COMMUNITY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. GENRES OF MUSIC COME FROM IT.

    Cultures create music. Not the other way around.

    JUST LIKE IN THE EARLY DAYS IN THE UNITED STATES CREATED JAZZ, ROC, BLUES , SWAMP POP. ETC ETC,

    MODERN DAY BLACK COMMUNITIES ALL OVER THE WORLD CREATE GENRES WHETHER IS , CRUNK, SNAP, GO-GO, HOUSE, B-MORE CLUB, HIPHOP, (AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE)

    REGGAE,dancehall CALYPSO,(BLACK CARIBBEAN CULTURE)

    DRUM N BASS, UK GARAGE , GRIME, (UK BLACK CULTURE)

    I COULD NAME MANY MORE

    THESE ALL COME FROM BLACK CULTURES.

    MUSIC AND THE CULTURES IT COMES FROM GO HAND IN HAND.

    im not saying anyone not black can’t make hip hop.

    FOR EXAMPLE anyone can make reggae, no matter where theyre from.

    but ultimately. The birthplace and the origianl creators of the music will always be the reference point. People will always look to jamacia to see whats happening in reggae.

    WHATS RELEVANT TO JAMACIANS IS REGGAE!!

    NO MATTER WHAT.

    ASK A JAMACIANS ABOUT MATISYAHU LMAO.

    YOU CALL URSELF A MUSIC JOURNO?

    STOP LYIN TO THE PEOPLE.

    JEEZY NEVER DID. lol

  • Jspru

    That’s absolute bullshit that white people only like nerd-rap/hip-hop that was made in the mid 90s. How do you think TI or Lil Wayne are popular now adays? Sure black people were the race that first discovered them, but the way theyve been getting #1 on soundscans and singles is white people.

    Personally, the concert sounded boring as hell besides that the WU has, is, and always will be fucking amazing. Mos Def and Talib are awful…socially conscious hip hop needs an overhaul cause their shit is wack. I would like to see Rakim just to say I saw Rakim, cause lets face it…he hasn’t done anythin relevant since, ummm 1992?

    And christ LOL you just need to chill the fuck out maybe smoke some of that white boy weed. If you’re all over the rap game than who the fuck do you like? Like people were sayin earlier you prolly like shit snap southern rap trash(not hating on all southern rap). Step your game up

  • render

    LOL, man Billy’s been on a roll lately.

    There are a lot of white dudes out there with a genuine appreciation for hiphop and hiphop history. When I used to DJ a few years ago, I always copped my old school albums off this white boy my girl went to college with. Guy had an insane collection…Dude had everything from Stetsasonic to the jungle brothers on vinyl.

    Can’t front on some of these white dudes…just ask noz

  • LOL

    SO WHAT IF DUDE HAD A HUGE COLLECTION?

    I KNOW WHITE DUDES THAT LISTEN TO LEE SCTARCH PERRY ALL DAY AND NIGHT AND CANT TELL YOU WHO SIZZLA KOLANJI IS.

    OR WHAT THE CURRENT ARTISTS ARE THAT ARE BIG IN CARIBBEAN.

    DOES THAT MEAN THEYRE BETTER REGGAE FANS THAT A JAMACIAN LIVING IN KINGSTON GOIN TO DANCEHALL RAVES? OFCOURSE NOT.

    STOP BEING SO IMPRESSED BY WHITE PEOPL

  • render

    btw, I wonder how many of you dudes here soapboxin, sayin that hip-hop is for black people and black people only listen to hip-hop because of a love and understanding of the music and culture, and how many do it because of some fucked up sense of cultural obligation?

    That aint hip-hop

  • LOL

    ASK ALL THOSE SAME WHITE KIDS AT WHO KNOW ALL THE OLD SKOOL SONGS AND THAT P.E AND DEAD PREZ ‘FANS’ WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THE N-WORD AND REPARATIONS.

    LMAO.

    THEY TURN WHITE REAL QUICK.

    FUGGOUTTAHERE

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    LOL,
    Youre worse than a simpleton, youre a coward. The Bronx of the 1970′s was a fucking dystopia. But you would be fucking surprised how little race and class matter to people that are poor and disenfranchised. This is still America and you prove that fact by your ignorance. the artistic people that created what we call Hip-Hop did not have the barriers that you own. That allowed them to create their art from sources that were f.r.e.s.h. That means that it didn’t matter what the skin color of the inspiring artist was. That’s why you can find rock music samples in early Hip-Hop production and certainly the rock music aesthetic of apparel (Furious Five anyone) and the punk rock ethos of D.I.Y.

    I have never called myself a music journo. I love Hip-Hop though, and I’m smart enough to know that it is more than just music.

    This issue came up before when I found that some of the vocal commenters had an inability to remove the supremacist definition of the word tribe from their mind. The tribe I belong to is comprised of(but certainly not entirely) the people that attended the Rock The Bells show in the pouring rain.

    I have a life that doesn’t require me to feel jealous for the prvilege that supremacy engenders white folks. I speak out against it, but I’m not paralyzed by it. I do me. And when I come across cool azz white folks that are doing themselves and we can build, that is what I do.

    Supremacy programs you to be small-minded and cowardly. You have to be strong and courageous to break from the mental grip of supremacy. Your life smells like you stay losing LOL.

    Killing yourself would take away the pain.

  • King

    Dark and LOL are probably having sex with each other as we speak. Get the fuck out of here with your bigoted shit. It doesn’t matter what color you are, it’s the content of your character, as Martin Luther King would say.

  • LOL

    LOL AT 1970′S AMERICA BEING A RACIAL UTOPIA.

    KEEP TELLING URSELF THAT.

    U THINK POOR PEOPLE DONT SEE RACE?

    THATS WHAT EVEN POOR WHITE TRASH AND GHETTO ASS NIGGAS LIVE IN SEGREGATED COMMUNITIES.

    OPEN UR EYES SILLY SUNDAY.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    LOL, come back to this thread after you’ve looked up the word dystopia. Get Dark to spell it for you.

  • LOLISCRAZY

    LOL and Dark need to cut their bigot shit out. They are out of their damn minds and don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about. It’s not the color of your skin, but the content of your character, as Martin Luther King said. That should still hold true today. Maybe their characters don’t contain very much, and that’s why they’re mad. I’ll acknowledge that white people have fucked up a lot of cultures, but just because our ancestors did that shit doesn’t mean that all of us do. There’s ignorant people in every race. It’s not the color of your skin, but the content of your character.

  • 92FS

    ALL I GOTTA SAY IS….FUCK ALL THIS PUSSEH HOLE MUSIC ON TV AND RADIO! FUCK ALL THA MAINSTREAM AND THA FUCKIN BATTY BWOY LYRICS! FUCK ALLA THAT SHIT! I KNOW COUPLE WHITE BOYS WHO BEEN DOWN WITH HIP-HOP SINCE IT FIRST STARTED! DO YOU KNOW WHAT THA FIRST RAP VERSE WAS?? I’LL GIVE YOU A CLUE…IT WASN’T SUGAR HILL GANG! I BEEN READIN SOME STUPID FUCKRI ABOUT ROCK THE BELLS GOT “NERD RAPPERS” THEN YOU MUST BE A FAGGOT STR8 UP N DOWN IF YOU THINK THAT!I’LL ALWAYS SUPPORT 90′S HIP-HOP AND UNDERGROUND HARDCORE HIP-HOP FROM ANY RACE OR COUNTRY! IF YOU SAID THAT SHIT ABOUT “NERD RAPPERS” BACK IN THA DAY YOU’D PROLY GET A FUCKIN SHOT TO THA HEAD! REAL TALK! (I’ve honestly seen somebody get knocked tha fuck out for sayin Krs-One is garbage) I BASICALLY THINK ALL THIS SHIT ON TV AND RADIO IS “NERD RAP” EVERYBODY IS FUCKIN SOFT AS BABY DIARRHEA! REAL HIP-HOP WILL NEVER DIE! HOW MANY SONGS THESE DAYS CAN YOU CALL A CLASSIC???? HUH??? I MEAN WITH A HARD HITTIN BEAT,AND HARDCORE LYRICS THAT’LL MAKE YOU SHIT YOUR PANTS AND SCREAM FOR YOUR “MOMMY”! THESE DAYS SHIT IS REALLY BUBBLEGUM,CUZ IT ONLY LASTS A FEW MINUTES!! “COMMERCIAL RAP GET THE GUN CLAP!” – BUCKSHOT.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    LOL,
    I will say this one more time. Don’t come back to this thread until you have read the meaning of the word DYSTOPIA.

    Since you bring nothing to the table today I don’t need you here fucking up my thread.

  • Cuban Link

    Great post Billy, I wish I had gone but oh well.And whats Latino’s stance in all this?If white boys are saving it, black people letting it die, what are we doing?

    I wouldve loved to see MF Doom in concert, thats one of my goals to accomplish before I die.

  • ROC

    BIlly straight sonned KRITIQ and LOL.

  • Ryan

    I called out LOL as a racist on a blog that BOL wrote a while ago, this dude has been nothing but a biggot from the get go. Him and Dark are probably the same person. What I am happy to see is that the majority of the people posting here see how fucked up he is.

  • Rizzop

    Billy X says…
    “Some of you on this thread possess a shameful level of misunderstanding, and worse still bigotry”

    But isnt the title fo the thread…”White Hip-Hop Fans > Black Rap Fans” I know its only your opinion, but some folks that cant comprehend what you wrote might take offense to that. You also said “Most live Hip-Hop concerts are never on Black people’s agendas. As a matter of fact, I can honestly say that nowadays the majority of Black folks experience with rap music out of doors is usually only from a car stereo system.” Well niggas are still broke and couldnt make it,or the towns they live in wont provide a venue for it? Either way, i felt a kind of way that you had to use those words like every white hip hop fan is better than every black fan……opinions are like assholes though……

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    Rizzop,
    I’m glad that you felt some kind of way. Now what are you going to do about it? If the only thing this thread can muster from you is a comment then I, and subsequently Hip-Hop, have lost.

  • yaboy

    billy x sunday = ether.com

  • BIG ROB

    BAN LOL! BAN LOL! BAN LOL! BAN LOL! BAN LOL!

  • suckaniggadickmakeaniggarich

    looks like LOL is madd….it must be difficult for a person when they come to the realization that the world would simply be a beter place if they were dead. I agree wit X…seems like he’s mad cause he stays losing….go suck on dark LOL dumbass

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    billy xxx aka bols closet lover aka white dick sucka aka house nigga in the suburbs ass nigga aka villige person ass nigga shut the bullshit you fuckin house negro you a fuckin bitch plain an simple your a prefect example of a new age coon just like ur boyfrriend bol who says dickhead imus aint racist hiphop is a black culture that black folks started.Rock itself was started by black folks den whitey came in an took dat from us crackka ass elvis den callin himself the king of rock da fuck is dat shit?an all these other white fags on here gettin mad cause im dropin the truth go to the fuckin hood dressin and talkin like us i grantee you’d get you asses whoped.hmm lookin out my window sure ass hell don’t see any white folks round here.hmm wonder why?An faggot whiteboy from ohio ryan how da fuck am i bol I can’t stand that house negro aka billy who makes xxx flims wit him.funny ass whiteboys an house negros in the burbs talkin shit yall some funny ass dick ridin ass clowns.

  • Trizzle

    is thys shyt serious?..hey im surprised u n ho..i mean bol havent pulled a michael jackson yet cuz yaw tha WHITEST black muthafucaz i eva seen!

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    Don’t know what ‘hood you claim Dark, but even through my DSL connection I can smell pussy.

    If you don’t see no white people in your ‘hood then you must live in a crackhead infested government housing project, because white dudes love gentrifying a neighborhood that already has flavor.

    If you ain’t got no white looking to move into your ‘hood that means y’all niggas is straight crunch berry cornballs.

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    an i say it again fukk white ppl in hiphop.you people are the sole reason why the game is so fucked now.(newsflash)black folks dont like that.
    we hate it to be exacct.why is it everry time we come up wit something white people try to become apart of it.cant we have anything for ourselves.fuck all white rappers.this is about the preservation of black people.whties latinos asian and even jews keep stealing and rape’n our culture and our heritage.for thier own gain.and niggas like billy xxx keep helping with the demise of his own people.because he doesnt seem to have a problem with sell’n out his own
    culture just for a quick dollar.thats not a balla thats what you call a sell out.we need more strong black leaders in entertainment.to insure that the idenity
    of the modern african american remains just that.why dont you white people trry to make up your own music instead of just stealinn ours.just like rock and roll just like jazz and just like r&b.you honkies will never have hiphop.NEVER
    leave our music alone.
    peace to all my real brothers and sisters
    revolution is coming and were gonna get rid of yall just like the government is do’n the immmigrants -Asalamyclum

  • Red

    Why are people claiming that Blacks can’t afford to attend concerts? That’s bullshit. The majority of people who attend T.I. and Yung Joc’s concerts are Black so that argument makes no sense. There were probably a lot of Blacks, who live in the same area that Rock the Bells was held, that didn’t bother to attend the concert but would easily dish out 50,60 dollars to see Crime Mob.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    Dark,
    I ask you this question with the full understanding that you won’t even have a clue on how to iterate yourself properly…

    What is the identity of the modern African American that YOU want to have insured?

    Don’t come back without an answer bitch.

  • Around and Around

    The one question I haven’t seen addressed is why? Why is it white folks are down with this quality Hip Hop, but then that shity bling, crunk shit gets made luv in the community? It’s got to be the ‘dippin’ through the hood factor…..

  • clarknova

    Ah, LOL… once again, being a clown. I’m about to see Rock the Bells this Thursday, and if you think the Wu, PE, Rakim, DOOM and artists at their level are not worth seeing, just don’t go. No need to shit all over anyone who went/is going. Unless of course, you’re a hating, all caps using, stupid motherfucker named LOL.

  • Rizzop

    Im not gonna do anything other than share my opinion, which is what i did? I dont e- beef, that shit is for the kids…(I did go to the concert when it came to MA)All i meant as a dude who has a love for hip hop, is that seeing as how you dont know every hip hop fan white or black ,ow can you say one loves it more than the other? But like i said its an opinion,and your is entertaining, which why i even read these posts, but its one i dont agree with. Like you said earlier, hip hop is/was?? the voice of the poor and has nothing to do with ones skin color, and one concert does not reflect an entire black communities love for the genre…we just aint buying the shit! I think its more ecomonic than anything, but there were probably alot of different factors into why there were so many white folks there (they dont mind getting sick in the rain, they have quality health care)not that they cant, but you threw a ittle mud into the faces of the “other” hip hop fans. In the end t really doesnt matter which color fan is greater, but as long as we continue to love and support it

  • suckaniggadickmakeaniggarich

    yo dark
    you stay losin too huh?

  • QUIETSTORM

    fans of rock the bells type shit check out my brother’s tracks

    http://www.myspace.com/chaseblaze

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    Damn xxx billy faggot ur really quick to respond you must live behind that computer of urs even thru my net conection I smell a pussy ass bitch a cyber homothug it’s to bad a crakka influenced house negro like urself dont know the identity of a true black person.must have been ruff fo you growin up in a white neboirhood.”If you don’t see no white people in your ‘hood then you must live in a crackhead infested government housing project, because white dudes love gentrifying a neighborhood that already has flavor.”yeah dats tha typical talk id expect from a white man trap in a black mans body get the fuck out you pussy lil bitch.ur just a house negro who gets paid to glorify crackkas in hiphop u jus a sellout bitch you and bol play nakked twister in baby oil u fuckin bitch I bet you live in a white suburb neiborhood hell ur a fuckin herb ass nigga jus like bol go suk on some white cock you fuckin homothug in tights.Asalamylycum my reel brothas and sistas watch how fast billy xxx will respond since he fuckin herb who goes to star trck conventions wit his white nerdy friends.billy u a pussy plain n simple.

  • ROC

    DARK and LOL need too shut the fuck up.Billy even if you continue to respond to these fucking lames they won’t get the message…So just let them be.Ignorance at it’s worst.

  • ROC

    P.S. Dark didn’t answer your question.Fucking faggot.

  • tseliot

    word, billy. for once, i agree with you. the culture’s gotten twisted — which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. someone’s gotta write the history books after all . . . .

  • KRITIQ

    shut the fuck up billy and stop riding the white mans dick .dont bring us that hiphop was for the poor bullshit

    hiphop was of course started by poor people but they had one thing in common they where segregated by who and why? billy can you answer that billy.

    white people like to make it seem like it’s all good and the race issue is never there jus like when rock was stolen from black people do you know what happened after that billy or are you jus riding white dick.

    billy its obvious you jus a fag trying to win some white man support. if white people where really cared for hiphop would they let them big co-operates suck the culture dry? would they let censoreship get in the way of the artists sorry billy but i think the love for hiphop goe’s further than jus going to a fucking concert.

  • http://xxlmag.com WritersBlock

    Dark im pretty sure he said dont come back til you answered the question…but i guess your illiterate ass dont understand it but ill repeat it for you in case you missed it.

    —————————————–
    What is the identity of the modern African American that YOU want to have insured?

    -Billy X

  • http://www.plasticsquirtguns.blogspot.com thoreauly77

    “If you ain’t got no white looking to move into your ‘hood that means y’all niggas is straight crunch berry cornballs.”

    - some of the funniest shit i’ve read in a long time.

    and LOL, when you fail to even read a word correctly, you lose. that’s just the way it is.

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    faggotsblock I don’t recall talkin to u whiteboy n I tolb billy it to bad he don’t know what a tru black person really is fuckin faggot.big ups to kritiq and LOL

  • http://www.myspace.com/sinistahmoneybagz Sinistah aka Sin Piffcaso aka The New Millenium Kareem Akbar

    sounds like the concert was da shit……

    if only i knew some white dudes in the hood to get white boy weed from………

    did Flava Flav perform any of his newer Flava Of Love inspired singles from his last album…..

    in the altered words of Rebel INS,

    I Bong Atomically……… til next time

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    n yes in response to faggot billy LOL rite take the x out you name but anyway The identity of a tru african american is one who keeps his identity meaning not sellin off his heritage an his culture his customs off not to just white folks but other races as well a black man who doesn’t let the white man take a shit all over him and his ppls.look at the media ever since that racial dick head imus opened his mouth {whom by the way you boyfrined bol doesnt seem to think is racist} the crakka runned and uncle tom media starts goin after hiphop even motherfuckers like sharpton is givin in to the white mans deamnds to try to banned explict lyrics in hiphop its fukin bullshit n dats wut you do billy u aint got dey identity of a black man cause u sellin it off to white folks u givin in an other niggas dat jus dont seem to have a prob to make a quik buck n be a sell out n let other races rape ya own culture.it aint racial hate its presevervin ya own culture.

  • Dos smash

    HIP HOP IS DEAD WHO CARES

  • grapes

    Why do we hafta be so racial in all this…why can’t all races support whatever? I know Chinese people who drug-deal, gun-tote, Spanish people who chill with blacks, White people who listen to the same music Black people do. WITH the black people. I have no clue what my point is but fuck…let’s just all get along and do what it does: Make good music.

  • LOLISCRAZY

    Kritiq+Dark+LOL=Supreme Ignorance

  • grapes

    hehe. someone has a cast in the pic of the white people’s W’s. Looks so out of place.

  • THAT BOY NOAH

    shout out to the white folks!

  • KRITIQ

    Billy X. Sunday Says:

    July 30th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
    Kritiq,
    You simple fucking simon, POOR people started Hip-Hop. Can you read nigger? POOR people, the disenfranchised.
    ^^^^^^^^^
    lol @ this house nigga is this your way of camaflauging the word “poor black people” so that you can fit your whitey friends in the hiphop history pages.

    faggots like you is exactly what hiphop dont need you dont have an identity mother fucker.

    just coz our forefathers where quiet about whitey stealing blues, jazz, rock and all other cultures raped means we should just keep quiet about hiphop and the way its being raped them t.i’s(who are white of course) making millions of the genre and pretending to love it

    you white in the inside and you wish you had a pale face you mother fucker you and that nigga bol that nigga supports don anus saying he aint racist do you think the same shit billy huh? do you think kkramer is also not a racist?

    go fuck yourself you fat faggot?

  • http://xxlmag.com kane corleone

    You cannot hate on DARK & LOL for having opinions concerning OUR MUSIC,do you remember when white people said it wasnt going to last its just a fad ,not saying those same people are going to concerts but they said it,Who do you thinks blames hip-hop when shit hits the fan-White-people,I’m trippin on the fact they wanna support hip-hop,come to the shows and shit like that its cool,BUT DONT FORGET WHERE IT CAME FROM,WHO STARTED IT.We are the most copied the imitated,and since i’ve reached the age of an OG i’ll take it as a compliment,oh and FUCK BXS,same nigga that was hating on Makaveli the Don ,so dont think i forgot bout that shit!

  • Funk

    LOL the whiteman invented the blog. No matter how much you comment you will never truly be down with posting comments.

  • KRITIQ

    LOLISCRAZY Says:

    July 30th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
    Kritiq+Dark+LOL=Supreme Ignorance
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    why coz we tell the truth about white people ?

    coz we dont ride white peoples dicks

    coz white people are fuckin racists and hate to admit it

    coz a lot of black people consider white people perfetct and superior to blacks

    coz y’all motherfuckers trully hate us and would like us to disapear from this earth.

    coz y’all cultures suck and always wants other peoples culture.

    coz black people wont let go of hiphop as they did rock, blues, jazz etc

    coz y’all ashamed of y’all history

    coz we constantly remind you that even tho you are in a prominent black website y’all still white

    get the fuck outer here.

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    Dos smash Says:

    July 30th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
    HIP HOP IS DEAD WHO CARES
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    yes saddly u is rite hiphop has truely been dead for quite a few years now any how rap in general today is shit all ppl do is rap bout da same borin shit like money,bling,clothes it aint even bout the strugles of the black coumunity its only about fashion n all other bullshit.LOLISCRAZY i wouldnt expect a white fag like urself to even know wut me LOL or kritiq is talkin bout anyhow n that fag boy noah yeah shout out ur wiggas in ur gated coummunity punk ass.n billy keep sukin crakka dick well i guess thats wut dey pay u to do huh?

  • Spoony Bard

    North America was (largely) colonized by white people; does that mean only whites should live here?

    Hip hop is for everybody.

  • That’smyname

    Big up Grapes

  • Carlito

    Yo, this shits better than watching Monday Night Raw lol

  • BIG ROB

    LOL=INTERNET THUG

  • Danny Dodge

    best part of the show was easily when Styles P. came out during Pharoah Monch’s set for “My Life”

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    well it’s early out here in cali only 9:32 rite now im jus read’n some of u peoples responses and you all seem to think that hiphop is a way of life.well in a way thats true but not the way youre think’n
    (question)whos way of life is it?it’s the black way of life.yall are just try’n to include your selves with something that has nothing to do with you.i live in the hood.were are all the white people at.i sure dont see any
    around here.so what hard life are yall live’n.what way of life are yall talkn bout.look at all these white folks try’n to school me n my black brothas on our own culture.(newsflash)theres nothing u can teach me that i dont already know
    especialy about hiphop cause i’m a true hiphop head.i live the struggles like so many other blacks in america.
    white boys are even try’n to tell me something about malcom x. please what the fuck do yall know.and since hiphop wouldnt be as big as it is without honkies(like yall say)then lets see you crackers make up your own form of music.i bet that’ll never happen cause it’s too easy to just steal somebody elses.but regardless ill still fight for hiphop for my ppls n my culture fuck off honkys
    black power
    red black & green

  • Rhap

    it’s funny to me to see how hip hop (our black culture) has come to a point where its disposable. Rakim, Wu and them cats are to me what Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gay was (and still is) to my parents.Classic!Nuff Said. We as black people need to support the godfathers of our culture as much as we support Young Joc, Lil Wayne or anyone else. Our history our culture, and shame on us for not supporting these cats who put it down BEFORE the money got into hiphop and paved the way for these young cats to do their thing today.

    I’ll never hate on white folk for diggin good music.

    peAce!

  • http://xxlmag.com Kane Corleone

    Keep it craccin DARK!!Sometimes you gotta let muthfuckas know where they stand in this world,they’ve been lettin us know for 500+++++++++!!!!!!

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    Damn, y’all still bullshitting? Okay, let me break it down for the clowns so there won’t be no questions on who got the block locked on this thread.

    LOL, you are dead on these threads until you complete your assignment. Period. Point blank. If your ‘A’ game is what you have been bringing here to this site Hip-Hop doesn’t need you. True story is that you are dead weight to Black people as well. You can’t become a professional and I’m sure you lack the work ethic required to be a successful entreprenuer. You’ll be one of those people that siphons away tax money because your on the welfare and that is why white people don’t like you. Not because your Black, but because you’re wack.

    Kritiq, your obviously ghey so I don’t feel like even arguing you with you.

    Dark, you win the comment thread lottery my nigger because you don’t seem too dumb to learn something like your peers are.

    So you speak for the Blacks huh? And a nigger like YOU actually knows what it is to be Black huh? In the real world of supremacy, and not just in your momma’s basement. Guess what my nigger? You don’t know shit. Let me start you from this point. When chattel slavery was introduced to the Americas do you realize that it was other so-called Black men who used to kidnap the people that were brought here? The white couldn’t invade the dark continent first off because their immune systems couldn’t handle the heat and they were prone to catching shit like malaria. Greedy Africans did that work for them.

    Who are you? One of the kidnappers, or one of the chattel?

    I would never be an apologist for all white. That ain’t my job, and there are still too many white that enable and co-sign the system of supremacy. With that said, when I find a white that doesn’t do that I make them an ally, but not because they are white. I do it because they are about justice and equality.

    By the same token I NEVER believe that because someone has melanin that they are automatically deserving of my trust. I know very well that a so-called Black person can be my worst enemy if that is his motivation. Like Chuck D said, “Every brother ain’t a brother ‘cuz a Black hand squeezed on Malcolm X the man.” How dare you mention his name?!? You generic ass nigger. Read the chapter in the autobiography of Malcolm X where he describes his epiphany when he went to the hajj in Mecca. Malcolm X found blue-eyed blond hair men praising Allah for their blessings just like he was.

    Because I’m older than all of you that comment here I expect some of the ignorance that jumps off on these threads I start, and the truth is that I encourage it most times, but ultimately what Dark, LOL and ghey Kritiq have shown me is that rock, jazz and blues were never STOLEN away from Blacks.

    They were given away by stupid, ignorant lazy ass niggers who had no respect for their history or the struggle of the previous generations. Average 16year Black kid looks at Chuck D and calls him “old head”. Average 16yr old white kid looks at Chuck D and says, “Hip-Hop legend that I will support.” Yes, I am down with the tribe that white kid runs with.

    White Hip-Hop Fans > Black Rap Fans

    I rest my case.

  • Rhap

    hiphop homework: research Afrika Bambaataa, (Bambaata = a brotha that that started all this shit) and check his views on what hiphop means to him. You’ll find no hints of racial exclusion. While you’re at it, read “And You Don’t Stop: 30 Years of Hip-Hop” by Jeff Chang. It took an asian cat to document our own culture and a white cat to hip me to read it.

    Oh and by the way… white folks own, control,(and profit) from hiphop.And in many ways mold the product most of us black folk call our own. There’s no record that is released by SonyBMG that doesn’t have Clive Davis’s (white man) seal of approval. And I’m pretty sure his decisions aren’t based on “what’s good for the black community” or “preserving our culture”. Clive is all about makin that dollar. HipHop (black culture) was sold to the white man a long time ago.

    I can’t support the matrix so I took the red pill. Underground forever! Put your money into substance and support independent artist.

  • sk

    Average 16year Black kid looks at Chuck D and calls him “old head”. Average 16yr old white kid looks at Chuck D and says, “Hip-Hop legend that I will support.” Yes, I am down with the tribe that white kid runs with.

    ^^^^^damn billy I gotta agree with that young dudes calling hip-hop legends “old heads” that shit is disgusting b. Me when I was growing up if I ever spoke sideways to a older cat then niccas would take my head off…These young dudes have no respect but respect a “LIL WAYNE” WTF kind of backwards shit is that

  • bigbankhank

    Check this homeboi the reason more white people go to old school hiphops than blacks is because they no that they dont have to watch they back every two seconds. But you want catch to more blacks at a T.I. Wayne, Jeezy, 50, Game, etc because they can relate more to them. Plus the average fan today would pay to see lil wayne before rakim or anybody else that was at that concert. true talk. no matter how many of you dudes hate the truth the fact is the majority rules and old scshool hiphop fans are the minority.
    dont hate me im just speaking the truth. Mos Def is on of my favorite east coast emcees behind jada.

  • Looms

    Poppin’ & Pockin > Leanin’ & Snappin
    That’s all the fuck I have to say.

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    you know wut billy sad thang is YOU DONT KNOW SHIT you need to keep MALCOLM X out your fuckin motuh as i recall in one of ur past blogs you was dissin moslims along wit dat faggot bol includin black moslims so sit the fuck down n have you momma give u some milk n cookies while u sit behind yo computer casue i know u basically live behind ur computer u fuckin house NIGGER.

    “When chattel slavery was introduced to the Americas do you realize that it was other so-called Black men who used to kidnap the people that were brought here? The white couldn’t invade the dark continent first off because their immune systems couldn’t handle the heat and they were prone to catching shit like malaria. Greedy Africans did that work for them.”

    Who are you? One of the kidnappers, or one of the chattel?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    i think ur ancesters always were the negros doin the white mans work motherfucker,im aware of it an its sad in africa were many different tribes of cousre dere were tribes dat hated eachother,like native american tribes who wuld fight eachother but when the whiteman invaded america n native americans lands idians from all different tribes united to fight the white man,point being black ppl that were brought to the americas were from differnet tribes n united as one when brought to america.Im aware of modern black on black violence motherfucker it goes on all the time everday n its sad n fucked up example out here in south central LA all black gangs crips n bloods black ppls shoot n kill eachother jus over the colors red n blue.rap expresses ghetto life the strugles black folks go thru every day in the ghettos.but hiphop today loses its morals wit all dat fuckin bling,money,cars,houses in all dat bullshit hiphop loses its morals from privleged white ppl in the suburbs who try to dress and act like dey in tha hood.One of those grills dat wiggers like pual faggot wall wear could feed milions of starvin brothas n sistas in africa and in the U.S.They’re always r whitemans niggers dat still want to do wut tha white man tells em to do like u billy i think u live on a white mans farm pretty conveient since you got the same names as the goats dat like dere.The way u talk the sound Like an orginal FARM FUCKER.oh yeh an chuck D the brotha is a legned and lil honky ass whiteboys from the burbs probably never heard or even know wut he and public enemy stand for in thier politcal rap about BLACK POWER.

    “rock, jazz and blues were never STOLEN away from Blacks.”

    “They were given away by stupid, ignorant lazy ass niggers who had no respect for their history or the struggle of the previous generations.”
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    hmm kind of sounds like u u fuckin hipycrite house nigger no dumbshit dey were stolin and its a white dick sukin NIGGER like u who could give a shit less about ur history or ur own race for dat matter ur a white mans whore billy iswut u is.

    da white man fucked up other races ass well the jus came in idian lands an said it ours now,they took the mexicans land drew a line n said its ours.they enslave us segergate us then tell us to go home fuck out of here.so get out of here billy u faggot take the x out of ur name cuase u wanna continue slavin for the white man.fuck u billy did ur white suga daddy name u dat?I speak for all black ppl struglin to live and survive in the hoods,ghettos,projects.fuck honkys in hiphop get ur own form of music an leave ours alone.Black power.fuck uncle tom niggers like billy bitch.

  • KRITIQ

    The white couldn’t invade the dark continent first off because their immune systems couldn’t handle the heat and they were prone to catching shit like malaria. Greedy Africans did that work for them.

    Who are you? One of the kidnappers, or one of the chattel?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I laugh at the ignorance like I said before all you’er doing is trying to make up excuses for the white man

    who’s the nigger now, what does the immune system have to do with heat? lol you dont have to have a strong immune sysytem to to withstand the heat you moron it’s adaptation you undereducated flob. well since you know nothing about the home land i’ll school you on it.

    whitey went there posing like missionaries and spreading the word of God which was cool with me.our forfathers where good harted people who where friendly and loving and accepeted whitey and their teaching coz they wanted to learn mo. but then the corrupt whitey came in those who thought our forefathers looked strong and healthy thought why not take this motherfuckers to our newfound land called America and make them our slaves there?. cut the story shot whitey corrupted Africans you moron and even those who turned against their brothers where obviously bribed to turn against their own jus like you Billy, Bol, Al Sharpton and Russel simmons you are corrupted by these motherfuckers.

    and billy why the fuck do you call it the dark continent? when there’s no actual winter in Africa and it’s sunny almost through out the year? oh! wait yous a whitey mother fucker

    f.y.i do you know that there are white people who are from Africa mainly found in the southern part of Africa yes these are the decendents of the dutch people they are known as the Afrikaans you can find them in mainly in South Arica and Namibia so what happended to their immune system stupid

    you dont know your history you dont know where you going Billy next time answer with facts and not stupidity things like you are gay and shit like just prove that you cannot make valid points coz you know nothing about white people and it’s a shame that you know nothing about Africa or Africans like lol said you just a Brainwahsed Afro American punk face it.

  • wtf r u talkin bout’

    bill says Who are you? One of the kidnappers, or one of the chattel?
    ^^^^^^^^
    so whats the difference between the two? they both end up serving the same master both are slaves

  • RLW

    Dark LOL and Kritiq, Sunday is not going to read what you write anymore let alone respond to your dumb asses so stop wasting your breath.

  • ROC

    OMG……you fags need a life! No one cares what you think.Everyone has an opinion and some opinions have a greater impact then other’s.Your commenting on a fucking blog! No one in the real world cares what you think!Lets see you stand before a nation and say the shit that your saying faggots.Your hiding behind the security of your computer screen!Point is that most of you cannot even type, and you have the nerve to come here and argue.Your fucking ignorant.Get a life and learn to type.And learn to enjoy life and stop worrying about race.Just listen to good music and do you!

  • ROC

    OMG……you fags need a life! No one cares what you think.Everyone has an opinion and some opinions have a greater impact then other’s.Your commenting on a fucking blog! No one in the real world cares what you think!Lets see you stand before a nation and say the shit that your saying faggots.Your hiding behind the security of your computer screen!Point is that most of you cannot even type, and you have the nerve to come here and argue.Your fucking ignorant.Get a life and learn to type.And learn to enjoy life and stop worrying about race.Just listen to good music and do you!1

  • http://www.plasticsquirtguns.blogspot.com thoreauly77

    this thread is just far too stupid. nice try billy but every time you try and feed them some knowledge is more like feeding to much cake and kool-aid to a 4 year old; they run around like crazy for a while then vomit a whole bunch of shit up.

    another thing: where the hell is TPAR when nearly 75% of this entire thread is dedicated to racism against whites? shady and pretty hypocritical if you ask me.

  • http://www.2pac.com Si Ryan

    man fuck that… i mean, look at all the fucken comments on this website… it comes from a bunch a whit people who dont really know shit…

  • http://www.xxlmag.com EReal

    DRUM N BASS, UK GARAGE , GRIME, (UK BLACK CULTURE)
    ^^
    WRRRRRROOOOONNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!

    Trust on this, from someone who was in the rave culture in the US from the begining, (IN ORLANDO AT FIRESTONE NIGHTCLUB LOOK IT UP FAGGOT), Rave music in general is WHITE, it came from WHITES and most of the people at rave events are WHITE. If you dont want white people ‘Taking Your Culture’, than dont try to take ‘White Culutre’.
    WHO GIVES A FUCK ANYWAY!?!?!?!!

    We’re all the same fucking race, HUMAN BEINGS. Its YOUR problem, that you’re salty ass bitches, not WHITES. Guess what, I know tons of whites and not a SINGLE FUCKING ONE is racist, I know whites that grew up with LESS THAN YOU, that have been hated on and supressed MORE THAN YOU, guess what, compared to IRAQIS, and even the slaughtered BUDDIHST MONKS IN CHINA, just tryina LIVE, you have it GREAT FUCKERS, you’re in the best country in the world and you cant have it too tough cause you’re on the internet, something that only HALF the country has access to, so quit your fuckin bitchin cause your daddy ran off on your mom with a white woman. Blame your fucking SELF for not rising above. Maybe if you stop blaming ‘The Man’ for all your problems (fucking CLICHE) you can MAN THE FUCK UP and become something you ignorant fucks.
    Grow the FUCK UP, PUSSIES.

    That is all, and if you address the god, trust me, Im not gonna bite back so stuff it in your panties, bitch ass.

    • Mike Detroit

      Take it from someone else that was there (Music Institute, Detroit, look it up), While rave culture was indeed started by whites (though certainly not anybody in florida), House and Techno were started by black people.

      Not that it matters, these days quality techno is just as likely to be made by a white guy from Germany or Sweden as a black guy from Detroit or Chicago, but give credit where credit’s due

  • dolo

    if im paying 100 buc, and mos def wants to focus on his actin i dont got a problem .. get that movie money it beats the record money .. but dont sign up to perform if u gonna half ass perform and still get concert money . dats bs ..

  • KRITIQ

    @ RLW who the fuck are you he’s p.a?

    well if you are tell that motherfucker that he should stop dick riding whitey and should state facts not fiction talking about Africans selling they own people to the whitey where the fuck did he get that?

    he should get he’s ass back to school and get a high school diploma.coz he’s the ingorant nigger thinking America is this one happy rainbow nation get a reality check dumbo aint nothing nice out there.

    there only reason he can’t respond to my comments is beacuse he’s too daft to know anything and can’t think critically. he cant even answer any questions I imposed on him, talking all that you are gay shit i “wont even waste my time on you” lol thats cause you know you are a liar and couldn’t stand the fact that I educated your ass you lost nigger.

    like I said before you and bol are the ones who are white in the inside and wish you had a pale face. hating on me coz i dont like what white people do to the culture, they rape it and you think oh my! whitey loves hiphop. NEWS FLASH WHITEY LOVE ANYTHING THATS ENTERTAINING TO THEM ESPECIALLY WHEN IT ENVOLVES BLACK PEOPLE PEFORMING TO THEM IT’S JUST ENTERTAINMENT AND NOTHING MORE JUST LIKE BACK WHEN THEY USE TO PAINT THEY FACES BLACK AND STARTED TAP DANCING THAT WAS JUST ENTERTAIMENT FOOL AND I WAS NEVER IMPRESSED THEN AND IAM NOT IMPRESSED NOW

    now unless you and your buttbuddy billy have something concrete to say i suggest you get back to your dick riding routins.fags

  • dolo

    I also have to say its not only hiphop . when i go to the jazzclubs im the only youn person of color .. its mostly whites and european or japapenese tourist . u might see older heads of color but im usually the only young person of color there .. its A very sad thing . but who do we blame . we discard our legends, so is it perhaps the elders who hate rap enough to push the culture gap and leave the youth ignorant to the the foundations of our music ? Should i be mad that white folks are helping to feed these jazz cats and “old rap heads” ?? i wish there was a bigger turnout at rock the bells and i dont wanna hear that bullshit about we cant afford the tickets cuz mofos sell out summer jam in a few days .

  • KRITIQ

    @ Ereal what the fuck are talking about do you even understand yourself? and whats up with this can we all get along bullshit with these white people? all of a sudden y’all have a change of heart and realised that black people are not monkeys or apes or inferior to the white species because we have hiphop.

    by the way rave, garage and all that bullshit music y’all listen too where derived from disco all that bullshit music came after disco died out, wanna know why well faggot disco was initially black people music in the 70′s but whitey did not allow blacks in disco clubs when bands performed even when they where black bands performing thats why hiphop started in the streets jack ass any how when many disco clubs started to allow black people in, whitey thought na this is bullshit i wont breath the same air as a monkey

    so them motherfuckers moved out and formed they own shit rave, garage and all that garbbage are just disco tracks sped up nothing from scratch.

    so now how the fuck are these forms of music a white thing when they actually stole it from blacks? wise guy

    thats the thing with you motherfuckers y’all jus love the white people too much and give em too much credit for shit. thats why y’all mother fuckers will stay losin

    peace to lol and Dark for exposing these dick riders.

    • Mike Detroit

      Techno didn’t come from disco (though house did). Techno came from the mixing of Black funk music with White European electronic music. Disco was never even very popular in Detroit to begin with.

      To this day in detroit, the biggest Ghettotech DJ/Producer ever is a short little white guy named Brian.

  • The ethea

    KRITIQ Says:

    July 30th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
    LOLISCRAZY Says:

    July 30th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
    Kritiq+Dark+LOL=Supreme Ignorance
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    why coz we tell the truth about white people ?

    coz we dont ride white peoples dicks

    coz white people are fuckin racists and hate to admit it

    coz a lot of black people consider white people perfetct and superior to blacks

    coz y’all motherfuckers trully hate us and would like us to disapear from this earth.

    coz y’all cultures suck and always wants other peoples culture.

    coz black people wont let go of hiphop as they did rock, blues, jazz etc

    coz y’all ashamed of y’all history

    coz we constantly remind you that even tho you are in a prominent black website y’all still white

    —————————
    Coz we can spell Cause

  • Around and Around

    KRITIQ Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 5:41 am
    whitey went there posing like missionaries and spreading the word of God which was cool with me.our forfathers where good harted people who where friendly and loving and accepeted whitey and their teaching coz they wanted to learn mo.
    ————-
    That was during colonization,(White man’s burden) not during the slave trade.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com EReal

    LOL Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 9:49 am
    EReal ARE YOU DUMB>?
    ^^^^
    You’re a fucking moron, yeah it started in the UK, but not by blacks. Besides, the oldest culture we’ve found was from africa, so I guess by being alive Im biting yalls style huh? Man GTFOH, that race card shit is OLD and CLICHE, everyone everywhere deals with shit, deals with oppression and poverty, if you dont man up and rise above, thats your fuckin problem, not whitey’s. So stop blamin the man and blame yourself because youd rather sling crack and buy jewelry than goto school and become something better. I had to, and I have zero respect for cats who blame all their shit on an imaginary problem when the real problem is them.

    Rise Above and stop being bitter bitches.

  • BORN IN THE NORTH, RAISED IN THE SOUTH

    Hip Hop = the most universal form of music ever

  • Around and Around

    Around and Around Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 11:05 am
    Hey LOL & Dark, does it piss you off that I love hip hop, and love banging hot black chicks while listening to PE? That’s my shit

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    Dark,
    You are one of the worst types of Blacks that exist because you don’t even know your true history of the chattel trade and the middle passage.

    I fucks with Malcolm X because of his journey as a man and I understand how he came to Islam as a reaction to the supremacy that he experienced here in the states. But on the regular I don’t give a shit about someone who claims that Islam is their religion because of the Arab involvement in the chattel trade.

    If you have the heart then do the knowledge on the Hebrew farmers that were brought here in the middle passage.

    GOD told Abram that if he kept his covenant he would be blessed, but if he broke it he would be cursed tenfold, to be taken to a land that he never saw, to be called a name he was not, and to be scattered across the globe. I am the descendant of Abram, Judah, Solomon, David and I know my place in this world.

    While you continue to be paralyzed by supremacy because of your lack of knowledge of self and your inability to process information. You keep thinking that the “white man” is killing Hip-Hop instead of recognizing that the Hip-Hop you know is dead already. It was dead the minute ‘Rappers Delight’ was released into the radio. You are crying over a carcass.

    Create the culture that you want to exist in and find the people that think along the same lines. If you exclude people because of the color of their skin then your culture won’t survive anyway. Because it doesn’t respect the mind(intellect) or the heart(character) and is only focused on things that exist outside of the body.

    Y’all little niggers are spinning your wheels talking to a man like me instead of listening to what I say, but in the end supremacy will need stupid niggers to fill its prison bowels and dumb niggers like y’all is just meatfood.

  • goodday

    MF DOOM IS KING, ASK MOS DEF

  • KRITIQ

    @ around and around so whats your point? the fact still remains white people are the ones that kidnapped the black people whether it was during the slave trade or not and not as billy stated about black people doing it, that was totall bullshit and you know it.

    I won’t argue about my peoples history with you coz you obviously get your info from the white man’s textbooks. so please shut the fuck up.

    unless you’ve been to Africa dont try and argue with me you nutballs coz y’all know nothing about Africa.

  • Around and Around

    Billy Says:

    “Every brother ain’t a brother ‘cuz a Black hand squeezed on Malcolm X the man.” How dare you mention his name?!? You generic ass nigger. Read the chapter in the autobiography of Malcolm X where he describes his epiphany when he went to the hajj in Mecca. Malcolm X found blue-eyed blond hair men praising Allah for their blessings just like he was.
    —————————
    Funny you want to bring up the epiphany but then hate on Muslims, in every other drop. Malcolm was a Muslim first.

  • these posts are racist

    Billy,

    You ignorant bastard. Only 9-10% of Muslims in the world are Arab. Islam is not an Arab religion.

    Malcolm’s belief in Islam was actually strengthened when he abondoned his anti-white position. When he embraced the truth that all men are equal and drank water from the cup of a blond hair blue eyed man in Mecca and came to realize that whites were not inherently evil, is when he actually had his strongest belief in traditional Islam.

  • Ryan

    LOL, Dark, etc.

    You do realize your closed minded attitude and shitty stereotypes is only perpetuating the cycle of bullshit that was started by white people against other races, correct? Instead of striving to be better than that, you strive to be just like it, so you’re no better than they are. Racist pieces of shit who have no place in this world.

  • these posts are racist

    “I don’t give a shit about someone who claims that Islam is their religion because of the Arab involvement in the chattel trade.”

    Do you give a shit about someone who claims Christianity is their religion because of Christian involvement in the chattel trade? What about Jews? Jews supported the Apartheid govt. in South Africa. What about Arab Christians who make up 10% of Arabs in the world? What about blacks who were involved in the slave trade? You’re an ignorant clown and no better than these other cats on this thread who you accuse of bigotry. You’re all ignorant bigots. The difference is, you’re a coward and direct your bigotry at an easy target, Arabs and Muslims because its easy to do you, which makes you a bigot and a coward.

  • KRITIQ

    @ the ethea haha very funny thats just like ignorant fucks, always want to point out the mistakes and ignore the points. eat a dick

    @ ereal shut the fuck up whiteboy what do you know about opression? or poverty so are we wrong to point out the motherfuckers who are really fucking us up those who been fucking us all along.

    how the fuck do you solve a problem that won’t go away many black people play it but the rules but the matter of fact still lies that they still get fucked in the ass by your so called system so pointing that out is playing the race card?

    get in your lane mother fucker you sound like you grew up with a racist dad who imposed racist shit into you and you are living proof that racism is hereditary.

  • HNIC

    THIS IS PURPLE HULK, WTF IS HNIC? SEE, XXL IS FUCKING UP ELLIOT, YOU NEED TO FIX THIS SHIT ISNTEAD OF SUCKING UP WEEZY, 50 AND WILL I AM, YOU DAMN FAG.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    LMAO that TPAR is the biggest muslim dickrider since Bin Laden’s whore niece.

    Glad you could jump in the pool dickrider, but now take your lips off my cock.

  • Around and Around

    KRITIQ Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 11:56 am

    unless you’ve been to Africa dont try and argue with me you nutballs coz y’all know nothing about Africa.
    ———-
    And it’s obvious you know so much, Africa is a big ass continent, with many countries, saying you’ve been to ‘africa’ shows you a heartless nigga just talking shit, get the toilet paper and whip that shit out your mouth little nigga. I step over nigga’s like you.

    And Why you have a Q at the end of your name, you french or some shit nigga?
    ————
    KRITIQ Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 11:56 am
    @ ereal shut the fuck up whiteboy what do you know about opression?
    ————
    Kritq, what the fuck you know about opression? Ask a Palestinian what’s opression homothug. Ask them about check points, ID cards, getting your land straight stolen from you, soilders running in your house in teh middle of the night and draging your mom and dad to the floor. Ask Chechyn’s what opression is, about getting your village burnt to the ground, your fam killed, ask the people in Darfur about it or Iraq you clown you have no idea. You’re in the US which isn’t a sixteenth of what most people go through.

    Opression is not about you not getting a job at rite aid clown

  • Around and Around

    Billy X. Sunday Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 11:13 am
    But on the regular I don’t give a shit about someone who claims that Islam is their religion because of the Arab involvement in the chattel trade.
    ————-
    Billy your a fuckin simpleton ass fucka. Everyone had their hand in that pot, black, white, christian,Jewish you name it. So by your logic, “I don’t give a shit about humanity because of it’s involvement in Chattel Trade”

  • KRITIQ

    lol @ billy callin TPAR a dick rider when he surely enjoys a swing on the white mans willy. Billy you are ignorant no doubt and you think you know to much.

    @ ryan shut the fuck up whiteboy you know nothing about racism so dont speak
    why is it closed minded attitude is it coz we point out the wrong doings of your people? what do white people do when hiphop is under attack?

    dont come back without the answer. faggot

  • http://www.xxlmag.com EReal

    @ ereal shut the fuck up whiteboy what do you know about opression? or poverty
    ^^^
    You ignorant cocksucker, you dont fuckin know me. Im not a whiteboy Im a redman, my family is 75% American Indian bitch, the ORGINIAL oppressed people, so fuck yourself bitch. I know all about poverty motherfucker, I pulled myself out the gutter and now I ball out because I decided sellin drugs and goin to jail was for bitches like yall. I busted my fuckin ass and went to school and got a REAL job bitch. I rose above, while you wallow in your own filth of supremecy because youre too ignorant to realize its a mindset and a self built prison. Im not saying racism dosent exist, it exists on EVERY SIDE of humanity, look at Isreal and Palestine, India and Pakistan, theres hate EVRERYWHERE, its how YOU see the world and the decisions YOU make in YOUR life that form the world around you, I know this from experience. You dont OWN hiphop, hiphop is for the PEOPLE not just the BLACK PEOPLE, and you perpetuate your own paranoia by keeping yourself in this 1969 mindset. Wake up man, its 2007 and a black man is running for president. You are more racist than 90% of the people Ive met in my life time you hypocrite.

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    billy face it u dumb shit ur the one callin all moslims dis n dat u diss moslims all tha damn time so it practically tha same ass dissin malcolm x.but reallistically i aint here to talk bout religion im talkin bout fake prepatatraitin ass whiteboys who wont get tha fuck of black music.Billy its niggas like u who fuck shit up if u dont care bout the issuses ur ppl r goin thru den u might as well be white.Shit you sound worse than some kkk mafucka on here ur ignorant ass bashin of ur own race is jus showin the reel bitch you are.fuck bitch ass wiggers like i said before wut hard life r white ppl really livin in thier large gatted coumnities seriously.billy u keep tryna turn shit around wit dis n dat my god ur worse than all tha wiggers on dis blog tryna find every excuse.

  • QUIETSTORM

    Around and Around Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 11:05 am
    Hey LOL & Dark, does it piss you off that I love hip hop, and love banging hot black chicks while listening to PE? That’s my shit

    HAHAHA

  • KRITIQ

    @ ereal so you’re think you this self made mother fucker coz you made it out the hood? what hood? lol the burbs get the fuck outer here with that I’ve made it out the hood bullshit coz its obvious you jus some rich kid trying to act like you got some success story, go sell your story to the publishers maybe they’ll make a movie about you fag

    @ round and round for your info mofo I been to Africa and not on Holiday been to jo’burg South Africa, Mbabane swaziland, been to Nairobi Kenya went there to aid my people been too people who need my help, orphans and aids victim I’ve set out plenty off volunteer aid work with organizations helping poverty struck people in Africa,

    while you sit there on your ass I been out there seeing it with my own eyes while you only see what cnn brings to you mofo i seen it live and what you see on cnn ,fox is exactly what they want you to see.

    so what use is your fucking college degree? when you own red Indian people still live in slums taking aid money from your government every month to keep them in check how do you deal with the poverty around you? jus shrug it of and hope the next man will clean up the mess

    or should I wait for another Katrina to prove that America is a divided country?

  • these posts are racist

    “LMAO that TPAR is the biggest muslim dickrider since Bin Laden’s whore niece.”

    I offer a structured coherent argument and Billy replies with inflammatory insults. Readers, you be the judge.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    TPAR,
    You a faggot coward. Nobody comes here to read a comment from you unless you are slinging shit around. Don’t be a pussyclot now. Get dirty or go kill yourself.

  • these posts are racist

    “TPAR,
    You a faggot coward…”

    Wow Billy, now that you have demonstrated to everyone you know how to insult people, why don’t you respond to my well articulated response to your bigoted illogical commets?

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    TPAR, repeat your question, I can’t go thru all these comments to find your inane question.

  • these posts are racist

    “I don’t give a shit about someone who claims that Islam is their religion because of the Arab involvement in the chattel trade.”

    Do you give a shit about someone who claims Christianity is their religion because of Christian involvement in the chattel trade? What about Jews? Jews supported the Apartheid govt. in South Africa. What about Arab Christians who make up 10% of Arabs in the world? What about blacks who were involved in the slave trade? You’re an ignorant clown and no better than these other cats on this thread who you accuse of bigotry. You’re all ignorant bigots. The difference is, you’re a coward and direct your bigotry at an easy target, Arabs and Muslims because its easy to do you, which makes you a bigot and a coward.

  • Around and Around

    KRITIQ Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 1:14 pm
    @ ereal so you’re think you this self made mother fucker coz you made it out the hood? what hood? lol the burbs get the fuck outer here with that I’ve made it out the hood bullshit coz its obvious you jus some rich kid trying to act like you got some success story, go sell your story to the publishers maybe they’ll make a movie about you fag
    ——————
    Obviously you’ve never seen a reservation.

  • KRITIQ

    Around and Around Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 2:31 pm
    KRITIQ Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 1:14 pm
    @ ereal so you’re think you this self made mother fucker coz you made it out the hood? what hood? lol the burbs get the fuck outer here with that I’ve made it out the hood bullshit coz its obvious you jus some rich kid trying to act like you got some success story, go sell your story to the publishers maybe they’ll make a movie about you fag
    ——————
    Obviously you’ve never seen a reservation.
    ______________________________________

    one word for you “SOWETO” go google

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    “Do you give a shit about someone who claims Christianity is their religion because of Christian involvement in the chattel trade? What about Jews? Jews supported the Apartheid govt. in South Africa. What about Arab Christians who make up 10% of Arabs in the world? What about blacks who were involved in the slave trade? You’re an ignorant clown and no better than these other cats on this thread who you accuse of bigotry. You’re all ignorant bigots. The difference is, you’re a coward and direct your bigotry at an easy target, Arabs and Muslims because its easy to do you, which makes you a bigot and a coward.”

    TPAR, which is your question? The part about the Christians? What do the Jews and South Africa have to do with the chattel trade? As an socio-political-economic model, the human chattel trade and apartheid are two entirely different animals. Then you mention arab christians, and then you mention Blacks that were involved in the slave trade, but you don’t even clarify what their involvement was. Were they chattel, or were they organizers?

    Listen TPAR, I understand that your dream of being on my level is something that you aspire to so I will indulge you once again by patiently requesting that you offer me A question. Don’t ramble and submit multiple unrelated questions. Just submit the question that you truly believe you can handle the response from.

    Sunday’s School is in session.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com EReal

    KRITIQ Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 1:14 pm
    ^^^
    Its obvious that you dont know shit fucker. Im fuckin real, I dont gotta fuckin lie to your bitch ass or anyone elses. Im proud of my life faggot, I wish you could say the same. Cause if you could you wouldnt be on a blog e-thuggin and bein a salty ass bitch. I grew up in the Paramore area of Orange county, between I4 and O.B.T. and my fuckin hood has the highest murder rate in my fuckin city bitch, whered you grow up? You dont know shit bitch, I grew up my whole life with my black friends, who accept me for the person I am, and dont talk all this bullshit you do, real gs dont fuckin talk about this dumb shit, you arent shit faggot, youd get your ass stomped walkin thru my hood and get your shit took, Im more official than you and Im not even black faggot. Rule number one ignorant cock sucker, dont assume shit about people. now you look like an asshole. (As if you didnt before).
    W Michigan Street bitch, Orange County, Paramore, 407, google that and see what you find fucker.

  • thoreauly77

    TPAR- why havent you addressed the coward-trifecta of commenters that have been making racist remarks against whites? why are you not an equal-opportunity anti-racist? you have skirted the previous question i posed. why?

  • Around and Around

    KRITIQ Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 1:14 pm
    one word for you “SOWETO” go google
    ——————
    One word for you “suckaniggadickmakeaniggarich” go google

  • http://www.myspace.com/byggbwoy BYGGZ

    hmmmmmm….I’m reading what some of you dudes are posting and it makes me wanna puke.What Sunday’s saying is the fuckin’ real–deal with it.You idiots are killing hip hop and those of the melanin-challenged are keepin’ it alive as they’ve done with Jazz and the Blues.The youth of today will be the downfall of what Generation X loves because they are rapping about bullshit on All coasts and they have no fucking respect for real hip-hop.

  • http://myspace.com/groovelement reggie

    man whatever! that whole thing sounds like woodstock to me.Theres not alot of black folks there cuz theres too many white folks there!If a bunch of black folks came the white ones wouldn’t be there!The writer acts like he’s happy about the white take over of hiphop..What ever..hiphop is some black ish..and always will be..we set the trends they follow.Throw a “W” in the air for white people?Are you kidding me?

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    yu white people just dont get it do you?tis isnt hate,this is the truth.
    look, if i’m so racist then how come the other 3 brothers (kritiq,Kane Corleone and LOL)on this fourm agree
    with me?do you think were the only ones who feel this way?this has been happening for years.how could you despute that?all you have to do is research music.go back back a few years in the past.look at elvis for example, why do white people refer to him as the king?the king of what?what did he create?were did he get that sound from.did he make it up?HELL NO
    that sound had been around for yaers.
    back then i wont lie everyone black and white kind of listened to the same music.tons and tons of black groups came out and people of all kinds loved it,but when these black groups would go out and perform for these people they would have to come in from the back door and through the kitchen.the record companies would
    even use pictures off white people on the covers of some of the artist albums to cover up thier black idenity
    so they wouldnt offend the white audience.they called that gaining cross over appeal.that shit was just foul.then one day this white elvis dude comes out and all the white people call him the king of rock and roll,like he’s the great white hope.
    thats the same thing yall do with feminem.black people are tired of whites and who ever else for that matter stealing our heritage and getting paid more then us.thats some bullshit.just look at how the back fag street boys and britany hoe ass bald ass spears and all them honkies killed R&B music.
    it’s to the point were black men are ashamed of thier god given talent to sing because white artist like these make it seem soft to be an R&B artist.
    when was the last time you’ve seen a black R&B group?i’m just speaking the truth.i understand that people dont like to be told about them selves,so just do your homework everything i say is verifiably true.all you have to is open your eyes the truth is out there.n billy shut ur bitch ass up u lil honkys in da brubs dont get it.
    black power black love………..

  • Look Way Back

    dark I’m not gonna argue with you about racism I can never understand your point of view fully because I don’t live your life. I’m white but grew up in a very poor neighbor hood in freeport bahamas so while I don’t expect any respect form you I grew up in relative harmony in a ‘black neighborhood’ on an island that is predominantly black. I dont want your respect but if you wanna talk music don’t forget that the majority of harmonic and melodic theory that was used in the ‘black music’ of blues funk soul hip hop etc came from european classical music. It was the gregorian tribes of ancient greece that invented the scales and chordal harmonies that are used in the majority your ‘black music’. so if you want to give credit to the creators and inovators of music read your history books and give credit to the human race not just the black race. I’m well aware that almost all music today is influenced heavily, whether its consciously or not, by african music. But don’t just assume that because black people have suffered at the hands of white civilization that ‘black music’ didnt take its fair share of ideas from white culture aswell. I’m not gonna comment on your intelligence because I don’t care how smart you are, but if your gonna make an arguement do your homework.

  • KRITIQ

    EReal Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 3:22 pm
    KRITIQ Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 1:14 pm
    ^^^
    Its obvious that you dont know shit fucker. Im fuckin real, I dont gotta fuckin lie to your bitch ass or anyone elses. Im proud of my life faggot, I wish you could say the same. Cause if you could you wouldnt be on a blog e-thuggin and bein a salty ass bitch. I grew up in the Paramore area of Orange county, between I4 and O.B.T. and my fuckin hood has the highest murder rate in my fuckin city bitch, whered you grow up? You dont know shit bitch, I grew up my whole life with my black friends, who accept me for the person I am, and dont talk all this bullshit you do, real gs dont fuckin talk about this dumb shit, you arent shit faggot, youd get your ass stomped walkin thru my hood and get your shit took, Im more official than you and Im not even black faggot. Rule number one ignorant cock sucker, dont assume shit about people. now you look like an asshole. (As if you didnt before).
    W Michigan Street bitch, Orange County, Paramore, 407, google that and see what you find fucker.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    ooooooooohhhhhhh! lol who’s the e-thug now mr “my hood has the highest murder rate” lol listen I wont even waste my time on you coz you are obviously an internet banger. talking “my black friends accept me for who Iam” wtf?

    lookie here faggot unless you do something concrete with you degree like help your native friends to get better jobs and to stop on relying on welfare then come talk to me.otherwise me and you will never be on the same level.

  • these posts are racist

    thoreauly77,

    I am against all bigoted/racist statements from blacks to whites, whites to blacks, etc. I haven’t responded to any of the anti-white statements because most of them are written so poorly that I can’t even get past the first sentence. Kritiq, Dark, LOL, etc. make racist inflammatory statements that should be condemned, which I am doing now.

    I have not taken the time to read and respond to their comments because others are doing a good job of ethering them. But, how many have responded to Billy Sunday’s anti-Muslim and anti-Arab remarks? None. So I have to.

  • KRITIQ

    who the fuck are you suppose to be TPAR? the blog messiah get your hypocritacal ass outer here so you are the guy white boys run to when they want help lol.

  • these posts are racist

    Kritiq,

    Where was I hypocritical? Can you provide examples?

  • KRITIQ

    @ tpar you’ve always been hypocritical in your past comments but I wont go back on them coz it will be a waste of time.

  • these posts are racist

    “@ tpar you’ve always been hypocritical in your past comments but I wont go back on them coz it will be a waste of time.”

    Ah yes, the Billy X Sunday approach to arguing: Make a statement or insult but never use fact or logical reasoning to support your “position.” I see the bigots have studied at the same school of illogic. You guys can continue going back and forth hating on whites, self hating, and of course hating the easy targets, Arab and Muslims.

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    “from european classical music”

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    fuck classical music!tha men better yet faggots who did that shit were all
    homosexual they wore them stank ass white wigs and barley even took baths.
    what the fuck is so classy about that?[question] does anybody bump classical music in dere rides answers?oh i already know Hell naw i guess it cause u find ur own shit to be borin an gay yall honkys got to go jack somebody elses, see white folks have to come up wit every single excuse on why dey have to be black.its fuckin riducuolus seriously talk bout desperate white ppl be tryna get tans n all dat bullshit its fuckin nuts i swear if black folks all started listin to shit like koon by ya deen white folks would be to its like a fuckin flee dat wont get da fuck off ur skin it nuts.white ppl said hiphop is garbadge it wont go nowhere now its all got to be down wit da niggers tha niggers whom segragated from us made us use different drinkin fountains even bathrooms for shit sake sure back den durin tha time of malcolm x an Dr.King Jr. we wanted to get along wit tha whitey but guess what?white folks didnt want to come togheter and get along they wanted us out,away,gone.Now that hiphop is big whitey all tha suden wants to come toghter and be ‘down’ wit us fuck out of here.Asalamylucm my reel brothas n sistas.Red Black & Green

  • ROC

    TPAR is straight ethering niggas………..Billy step up,you slipping.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    Okay, I’m back and what have I missed? Did TPAR revise his question to me, or did that coward come unglued and disappear into the matrix? Let’s rewind…

    TPAR says, “Do you give a shit about someone who claims Christianity is their religion because of Christian involvement in the chattel trade? What about Jews? Jews supported the Apartheid govt. in South Africa. What about Arab Christians who make up 10% of Arabs in the world? What about blacks who were involved in the slave trade? You’re an ignorant clown and no better than these other cats on this thread who you accuse of bigotry. You’re all ignorant bigots. The difference is, you’re a coward and direct your bigotry at an easy target, Arabs and Muslims because its easy to do you, which makes you a bigot and a coward.”

    TPAR, which is your question? The part about the Christians? What do the Jews and South Africa have to do with the chattel trade? As an socio-political-economic model, the human chattel trade and apartheid are two entirely different animals. Then you mention arab christians, and then you mention Blacks that were involved in the slave trade, but you don’t even clarify what their involvement was. Were they chattel, or were they organizers?

    Listen TPAR, I understand that your dream of being on my level is something that you aspire to so I will indulge you once again by patiently requesting that you offer me A question. Don’t ramble and submit multiple unrelated questions. Just submit the question that you truly believe you can handle the response from.

    Sunday’s School is in session.

  • Looms

    KRITIQ-

    what do white people do when hiphop is under attack?

    dont come back without the answer. faggot.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    …I support it. Bitch.

  • QUIETSTORM

    DARK Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 9:01 pm

    “from european classical music”

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    fuck classical music!tha men better yet faggots who did that shit were all
    homosexual they wore them stank ass white wigs and barley even took baths.
    what the fuck is so classy about that?

    dark u ethered yourself homeboy.

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    faggotstorm how tha fuck so?fuck out of here lil bitch.

  • QUIETSTORM

    I’ll tell you how dummy…

    Instead of arguing your point that black people came up with every single form of music known to man, you simply tried to rip apart someone else’s comment, the exact same thing you 3 or 4 racist fags criticize billy for doing. Look Way Back did not show one single ounce of resentment, yet u went on to tear apart his beliefs like u know what the fuck u are talking about. not gonna lie I’m pretty f’ed up right now but I am sick of reading your dumbass posts. Fucking end it already. In my eyes(I think most would agree) music is made to be enjoyed by whoever cares to listen…

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    this is so funny all these white dudes like queitefaggot talk’n shit because thier mad.queitefaggot
    get it right i dont have to learn the culture. I am the culture.thats the difference between u crackers and black
    people. yall have to learn the culture
    by try’n to hang in our neiborhoods or on the net or watch’n us on b.e.t. ,trl, the culture is in our blood. and we have
    a birth given right to it.we live this life everyday.so all u little white boys in the suberbs who watch and imulate us because our culture looks
    fun or more interesting than yours need to step off.an like i said we wanted to join be one back in tha days but white folks jus didn’t want to do that u honkys try to cover up ur racist ass history with lame ass excuse after another yall wanted us out and gone now yall want to be black and be down wit us cause now yall think our shit is tight so am i tha racist no yall honkys r step off
    black power

  • KRITIQ

    these posts are racist Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 8:56 pm
    “@ tpar you’ve always been hypocritical in your past comments but I wont go back on them coz it will be a waste of time.”

    Ah yes, the Billy X Sunday approach to arguing: Make a statement or insult but never use fact or logical reasoning to support your “position.” I see the bigots have studied at the same school of illogic. You guys can continue going back and forth hating on whites, self hating, and of course hating the easy targets, Arab and Muslims.
    ^^^^^^^^^^
    if pointing out how the white man is always taking advantage of the black oriented music racist fine let that be

  • KRITIQ

    Looms Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 11:03 pm
    KRITIQ-

    what do white people do when hiphop is under attack?

    dont come back without the answer. faggot.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    …I support it. Bitch.
    __________________________________
    watching mtv all day doesn’t count fag

  • Around and Around

    KRITIQ Says:

    August 1st, 2007 at 3:38 am
    these posts are racist Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 8:56 pm
    “@ tpar you’ve always been hypocritical in your past comments but I wont go back on them coz it will be a waste of time.”

    Ah yes, the Billy X Sunday approach to arguing: Make a statement or insult but never use fact or logical reasoning to support your “position.” I see the bigots have studied at the same school of illogic. You guys can continue going back and forth hating on whites, self hating, and of course hating the easy targets, Arab and Muslims.
    ^^^^^^^^^^
    if pointing out how the white man is always taking advantage of the black oriented music racist fine let that be
    ———–
    You a fucking simple leach. The ‘white man’ who looms in the shadows does not make his bones off of ‘black music’ You fucking clown there isn’t that much to make off music, especially in the free download era. ohhhhh Jay z has 300 million, that’s nigga rich, that ain’t old money….Haliburton has made billions off the war killing poor people. That’s where real money is made, gov’t contracts, war booty…. who gives a fuck about your dumb ass music industry. It doesn’t pay me and I don’t pay it, I download that shit. Just sit and stir in your anger, while white people love ‘your’ music…news flash dumb shit, there wouldn’t be rap music without white people who would buy it?

    And again, why the fuck you got a Q at the end of your name, you trying to be French nigga?

  • EReal

    KRITIQ Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 7:09 pm
    ^^
    WOOOOWWWWWWW! You didnt say SHIT! I wasnt E-Thuggin, faggot. E-Thuggin is bitches like you fakin it on here, I was speaking FACT. FACT is, that I grew up in a serious place, with real cats doin real things and they werent on this disenfranchised bullshit you’re on. Yeah, I said my black friends accepted me, TO PROVE A POINT, that in the HOOD, you’re all in THE HOOD, BLACK WHITE PUERTO RICAN HATIAN DOMINCAN, it dosent matter, we’re all broke tryina get it. Plus I do give back fag, another thing YOU DONT KNOW, talkin about what I should do. Mufucka, you should get a clue, I moved my moms and my sis out the hood, Im helping pay for my sisters education, and I give back to my homies on the block, help em with dough, come thru show love. You dont know shit about what Ive been thru asshole, so fuck yourself, answer my question pussy, whered you grow up, what have you been thru, what have you done for your family, if you dont wanna come real than dont even address the god, you fuckin bitchmade asshole.

  • HAHA!

    And again, why the fuck you got a Q at the end of your name, you trying to be French nigga?
    ^^
    LMFAO!

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    Ereal = 3 > Kritiq = 0

    That’s a factual shutout.

  • these posts are racist

    Billy,

    I can’t teach you how to process information. You can respond to my response to your anti-Muslim statment however you want. I will then ether that response as I always do.

    Billy, did you know that over 10% of the slaves brought to the Americas were Muslim?

  • these posts are racist

    P.S.,

    I can’t believe anyone takes Dark, LOL and Kritiq seriously. I honestly can’t get past one sentence of what they write.

  • Around and Around

    EReal Says:

    TO PROVE A POINT, that in the HOOD, you’re all in THE HOOD, BLACK WHITE PUERTO RICAN HATIAN DOMINCAN, it dosent matter, we’re all broke tryina get it.
    —————————
    That’s a true statement, and shows Kritiq’s lack of knowledge on that subject show’s he’s AT&T a fuckin phoney.

  • these posts are racist

    P.S.S.,

    Does everyone love how Billy won’t respond to me but rather criticizes the way I responded to him? In other words, he demands that i produce “A” question then responds with the below…[Note, amazingly, he criticizes the structure of my response because it contains multiple questions and ideas with a paragraph containing multiple questions and (mis) ideas.] Billy, you’re not on my level.

    “TPAR, which is your question? The part about the Christians? What do the Jews and South Africa have to do with the chattel trade? As an socio-political-economic model, the human chattel trade and apartheid are two entirely different animals. Then you mention arab christians, and then you mention Blacks that were involved in the slave trade, but you don’t even clarify what their involvement was. Were they chattel, or were they organizers?”

  • these posts are racist

    Billy reminds me of that character from the Dave Chappelle show. That rapper who keeps saying “mic check, one two, i’m about to rip it son, i’m about to kill the mic…turn me up in the head phones!” But never actually spits a verse with substance.

    Stop insulting people and playing games…and actually say something Billy.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    TPAR,
    You just made an everlasting coward move. I knew you were a bitchmade coward, but then you became a bitchmade coward with a vagina for a mouth.

    You begged me to answer your question. What is your question? You have no question do you? You are the highest level of pussyclot commenter available on the internets. At least Dark and Kritiq have enough manstyle to pose a misguided query.

    C’mon TPAR, don’t be a ‘Shook One’ all your life. Man up. Ask your question and keep it moving.

  • these posts are racist

    Billy,

    Thanks for confirming what I just said about you. I gave my response and any reasonable person who has the ability to process information gets my point, in the form I presented it, as a refutation of your anti-Muslim statement.

    Sunday’s School, the ultamite oxymoron.

  • KRITIQ

    You a fucking simple leach. The ‘white man’ who looms in the shadows does not make his bones off of ‘black music’ You fucking clown there isn’t that much to make off music, especially in the free download era. ohhhhh Jay z has 300 million, that’s nigga rich, that ain’t old money….Haliburton has made billions off the war killing poor people. That’s where real money is made, gov’t contracts, war booty…. who gives a fuck about your dumb ass music industry. It doesn’t pay me and I don’t pay it, I download that shit. Just sit and stir in your anger, while white people love ‘your’ music…news flash dumb shit, there wouldn’t be rap music without white people who would buy it?

    And again, why the fuck you got a Q at the end of your name, you trying to be French nigga?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    thank you for admiting the truth so the white man is a problem afterall, then why call me racist when Iam trying to point that out? lol

    and why are you so obsessed with the letter Q man why bring it up everytime does it make you uncomfortable? and what is it to you if I put Q at the end of my name?

  • Around and Around

    Billy X. Sunday Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 10:08 pm
    Okay, I’m back and what have I missed? Did TPAR revise his question to me, or did that coward come unglued and disappear into the matrix? Let’s rewind…

    TPAR says, “Do you give a shit about someone who claims Christianity is their religion because of Christian involvement in the chattel trade? What about Jews? Jews supported the Apartheid govt. in South Africa. What about Arab Christians who make up 10% of Arabs in the world? What about blacks who were involved in the slave trade? You’re an ignorant clown and no better than these other cats on this thread who you accuse of bigotry. You’re all ignorant bigots. The difference is, you’re a coward and direct your bigotry at an easy target, Arabs and Muslims because its easy to do you, which makes you a bigot and a coward.”

    TPAR, which is your question?
    ————————
    TPAR’s making a point w/ all the questions, you are just either slow as shit or avoiding the premis. The point is, you stated you “I don’t give a shit about someone who claims that Islam is their religion because of the Arab involvement in the chattel trade.” TPAR is raising the issue, do you apply the same mentality for Christian’s? Jewish Involvment in Aparthied? African involvment in Chattel? There it’s completely spelled out for your simple 2+2 ass…….answer?

  • these posts are racist

    “and why are you so obsessed with the letter Q man why bring it up everytime does it make you uncomfortable? and what is it to you if I put Q at the end of my name”

    Because you look like you want to be French, is that why you put the Q at the end of your name? The Q should stand for Quit…Quit while you’re behind. Around and Around is ethering you left and right.

    Why don’t you and Billy go back and forth about how the white man is the devil and Arabs and Muslims are bad.

  • these posts are racist

    Billy is erasing comments again.

    Thanks for confirming what I just said about you. I gave my response and any reasonable person who has the ability to process information gets my point, in the form I presented it, as a refutation of your anti-Muslim statement.

    Sunday’s School, the ultamite oxymoron.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    Around is def a reliable weed carrier and thats a worthwhile talent. But even you don’t understand something very intrinsic to communication. You CAN NOT make a point by asking a question. All you have done is hopefully askes a question that deserves an answer. Points are made with the assertion of a statement, never a question. Now quote this…

    “Everyone that profits directly from the human chattel trade gets a fuck you from me. That includes the southeast asians that are selling people around the world. Whatever tribe, ethnicity or religion. Period, point blank.”

    Apartheid and the Jewish involvement has nothing to do with the chattel trade. I don’t know why you and TPAR include it as an example. Was apartheid fucked up? Yes. On the same level and to the same degree as the middle passage? Hell to the no. So why is it included?

    I’m not going to connect the dots for cowards. Around, since you were man enough to re-posit the question with a semblance of aim and clarity I will allow you to continue on this thread. TPAR had his chance, but he was too scurred.

  • Around and Around

    KRITIQ Says:

    August 1st, 2007 at 1:13 pm
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    thank you for admiting the truth so the white man is a problem afterall, then why call me racist when Iam trying to point that out?
    —-
    I never called you a racist, point out where I did? The white man (Or elite which can be black) is the problem of the proletariat only most are too fucking blind to realize it.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    TPAR,
    Yes, you are dead on my threads until you* submit a definition for the word – obfuscate.

    *if your weedcarrier answers you get no points for plagiarism

    Feel free to submit your answer at a subsequent thread if you have to, but until then…

    You already know.

  • Around and Around

    Only thing I’m carrying iz a pocket full of rocks beotch.
    —–
    And you can make a point as long as the question has an obvious answer, case in point:
    “How much cock does BX smoke?”

  • BloodRed

    LOL is just mad that he didnt have enough money to go. Im sure i dropeed like 500 on it. And since hip hop is sampled mostly from “white people music” – your dickriding nonsence is just that…. nonsence.

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    tpar shut da fuck up whiteboy bout ya bullshit fuck out of here yall homkys is fuck’n dumb yall keep tryna be down when u aint.take dis whiteboy Ryan congrats u is probably tha dumbest fuck ive argued with on dis furom.

    Ryan Says:

    July 30th, 2007 at 1:25 pm

    I like PE and dead prez cause it’s good hip hop, plain and simple. I don’t feel offended by any kind of “kill whitey” sentiment, cause I know it’s not aimed at every white person that exists. LOL you can laugh at the fact that I like hardcore or any other kind of music that I’m into but you’ve yet to tell me what you think legit hip hop is. Give me something concrete and I’ll respect your arguments, until then you ain’t shit.

    Dark, people might possibly respect what you have to say when you learn how to spell and stop typing bullshit like this:

    White folks r a bunch of fuckin prepatraitors that keep tryna get involved wit a culture that has notin to do wit em hiphop is for black folks
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    hmm????dat doesnt even make sense if ya aint got a problem wit ppl like dead prez who clearly shows anti white lyrics in thier music den wut im sayin shouldnt even bother u.cause i basically say tha same shit about wut dead prez raps about gettin tha honkys off our shit yall is fuckin dumb.

  • Looms

    KRITIQ Says:

    August 1st, 2007 at 3:40 am
    Looms Says:

    July 31st, 2007 at 11:03 pm
    KRITIQ-

    what do white people do when hiphop is under attack?

    dont come back without the answer. faggot.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    …I support it. Bitch.
    __________________________________
    watching mtv all day doesn’t count fag

    HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

  • kritiq

    I said my black friends accepted me, TO PROVE A POINT, that in the HOOD, you’re all in THE HOOD, BLACK WHITE PUERTO RICAN HATIAN DOMINCAN, it dosent matter, we’re all broke tryina get it. Plus I do give back fag, another thing YOU DONT KNOW, talkin about what I should do. Mufucka, you should get a clue, I moved my moms and my sis out the hood, Im helping pay for my sisters education, and I give back to my homies on the block, help em with dough, come thru show love. You dont know shit about what Ive been thru asshole, so fuck yourself, answer my question pussy, whered you grow up, what have you been thru, what have you done for your family
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    wow whats is this imaginary hood you live in?, lol so the hood is this one big happy state of utopia now, huh?

    I can just see it now white, blacks, Haitians, latino’s holding hands singing we are the world. bullshit! the only time these races come in contact is when they’re exchanging goods slinging an shit thats it. like I said we are obviously from totally different worlds so I wont continue arguing with you on this subject.

    if you want to know what i have done for my family check my comments above.

    I respect what you have done for your family big up,but since you claim to be partially redblood what do you plan to do for your native people or is it enough for you that they live in a fucked up condition tucked away eating welfare? or yu dont see this as a problem?

    p.s tell yur daddy billy to stop deleting my posts it’s tiresome rewriting this shit over and over

  • K-Lillz

    Not all us honkys have pasty skin, straight blond hair and blue eyes you know. I have tan skin, hazel eyes and brown curly hair.

  • Argh

    This thread is pure gold.

    “fuck classical music!tha men better yet faggots who did that shit were all
    homosexual they wore them stank ass white wigs and barley even took baths.
    what the fuck is so classy about that?[question] does anybody bump classical music in dere rides answers?”

    Dark probably thinks that the Chicken Noodle Soup is the pinnacle of black artistic achievement. He wouldn’t be worth ethering even if someone convinced him to stop hitting himself.

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  • M

    the explanation here isn’t rocket science.

    underground/hardcore/’90s-inspired hip-hop doesn’t get bump from black people because it doesn’t have a lot to do with their lives. comic book/kung fu references, political sloganeering and emcee-bashing is pretty alien to the average black kid in the hood. plus, this kind of music tends to use complex words, and since schools in the hood tend to suck, kids in the hood aren’t really equipped to understand what these rappers are saying. this is the same reason why LOL doesn’t understand the word “dystopia” and Dark doesn’t use periods.

    White people and people who don’t live in the hood tend to be better educated and slightly more worldly, which is why they prefer hip-hop with a little more complexity to it.

    and before i get jumped on, these are generalizations. i’ve met plenty of cats from the hood who as smart as anyone i’ve ever met. there are always exceptions to the rule.

  • M

    oh, and PS: i gotta co-sign with the Chuck D refrences above. Hip-hop is the only musical culture that seems to think there’s something cool about shitting all over its forefathers. every other musical culture you’ll ever find on planet earth looks to the elder musicians of their genre as sources of guidance, inspiration and respect them as such. they paved the way for everything artist who is doing their thing today – musically and businesswise. when you dis your your forefathers you dis yourself.