“Big Shit Sandwich”

When Noz the Cracker published his post the other day on how awful the new T.I. album is, I figured it might be the rare occasion when those of us who enjoy bad music and those of us who know better could actually agree on something. After all, if an LCD rap apologist like Noz doesn’t like the new T.I. album, it can’t possibly be any good, right?

Unfortunately, I see I was wrong. Not so much about the fact that the album sucks balls, because it does. But apparently there’s quite a few of you who’ve yet to be convinced of this. In the comments to yesterday’s post on the half-year in rap, quite a few of you objected to my having named T.I. vs. T.I.P. the Shit Sandwich of the Year. Um, my bad.

To its credit, T.I. vs. T.I.P. is probably not the worst rap album released so far this year. Like I said, I’ve yet to hear those albums by Mims and the Shop Boyz. And Rich Boy’s Timmah – The Album can’t be worse than this new T.I., on account of the the fact that it at least includes that song “Throw Some D’s,” but it’s pretty much in the same ballpark.

Then again, it’s not like anyone expected so many other bullshit albums released this year to actually be any good. With it being the follow-up to the best-selling album of last year, you’d at least expect T.I. vs. T.I.P. to have some good beats on it or something, but no. There’s hardly anything at all to like in the course of T.I. vs. T.I.P’s 73 minutes-plus runtime.

Much has already been made of the bizarre selection of guest artists and producer T.I. brought in for this album, so I’ll spare you, for example, the feigned surprise of noting that the likes of Jay-Z, Eminem, and Wyclef Jean, none of whom have had a good idea in years, didn’t manage to come up with anything good here either, other than to note that, yep, that’s definitely the case.

The thing about T.I., which I’m sure many of the more astute among you have noticed by now, is that I was never a huge fan of the guy anyway. I can appreciate the fact that he’s much better at what he does than, say, Yung Joc, but at the end of the day, don’t they still pretty much make the exact same kind of music? In fact, wasn’t Yung Joc the opening act the night Philant Johnson threw his last wad of money in someone’s face?

In the past, to the extent that I have enjoyed T.I., it’s been when he’s had talented producers like David Banner, and Swizz Beatz, and, to a lesser degree, the washed up Just Blaze making him sound that much more interesting than he would otherwise, which is not very. Indeed, that was pretty much the case with King, which faltered in its second half when it pretty much became overrun with weed carrier verses and beats by no-name producers.

As I noted yesterday, the second half of T.I. vs. T.I.P. is like that second half, only made even shittier and expanded out over the course of an hour. Some of the beats are alright, but none of them are really that good. And while Jay-Z, Eminem, and Nelly drop guest raps instead of the usual assortment of weed carriers, who must have all been fired, it’s not like their contributions here are that much better.

Basically, T.I. vs. T.I.P. is pretty much the worst thing that could possibly happen, at least as far as a T.I. album is concerned. I really am amazed that so many of you can actually like this shit.

  • The Real Boy Wonder

    Bol, you really are an hater, fat guy. What are you, the black Bill o’ Riley? It’s not fair to compare KING to this album because in it’s own right I think it’s a hell of an album. A year or two down the line we might be calling this a classic. I wonder who are your favorite artists? Even if you claim it sucks he still will go platinum. You know I’m right.

  • The Italian Stallion

    You fuckin right. Never understood the hype around that rapper. I like his voice but that’s really all. Cheap synths. That’s all i hear in his albums. Wack beats and more wack beats. Fuck that rap shit.
    Rza, wake me up with that “8 Diagram” album!

  • kaybee

    First to comment on this shit sandwhich lol the shit is beyond horrible guess we have to sit back in wait on tha carter 3

  • D.E.M.W.A.I.

    Bol….stop hating…as a matter of fact, y don’t u take ur fat azz in the studio and make an album and see what the peeps say about u…

    Here is some food for thought Bol…
    Don’t hate the playa, hate the game…

  • http://sdf asdf

    right on bol, this album was just plain bad.

  • suckaniggadickmakeaniggarich

    1st again?
    check the name hoe!
    The south will fall…..its only a matter of time….New York Stand the Fuck UP!!!!!

  • weird harold

    the guy above me is obviously on ti’s street team. this album is caca. did you see him on mtv.com talkin about its the best thing since ready to die, all eyes, reasonable doubt, etc? HAHAHAHA

  • PHOENIXXX

    the south is the epitome of garbage. T.I. is the Grand Ambassador

  • PHOENIXXX

    the south is the epitome of garbage. T.I. is the Grand Ambassador

  • DocZeus

    first!

  • http://xxlmag.com eskay

    co-sign Bol. and I’m the black Bill O’Reilly

  • sobossy

    I love T.I. but this album is only ok, it is definately not a classic. He never switches up his flow, his lyrics are average, and most of the beats are not banging.

  • hiphop

    Your opinion doesn’t have so much credit……you’ll see the first week

  • LOL

    LMAO BLACK BILL O’RIELLY

  • terry

    Well Said Bol!!!! Well Said.

  • hiphop

    Danjahandz, Wyclef Jean…do you really listen that productions nigga?????
    If you don’t like it, you don’t know what’s southern rap…but respect that hustle nigga

  • Danny

    “And Rich Boy’s Timmah – The Album” \

    ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahaha that was some funny shit…

    Ya dig??

  • News Flash

    I’m not going to say it’s a shit sandwich, but TI could have done alot better. I appreciate the fact that he tried to be creative with this lp(which is a lost art in hip hop today), but he didn’t come through plain and simple.

    Unlike King, he didn’t really show any growth with this lp. It was the same ol’ shit, nothing new and inspiring. Don’t get me wrong, he does have some heat to offer, but not enough to call TI vs TIP a strong album. IMO 3/5

    For the record the best major release of the year(so far)is the Buck album.

  • http://www.myspace.com/thaanswermikeyd HollyHood

    the album is str8, its far from classic, i dont know y he would compare this 2 pacs all eyes on me or jays reasonable doubt, but its str8 ive heard alot worst!!
    check me out:myspace.com/welcometohollyhood

  • Danny

    Y N THE FUCK NONE OF MY COMMENTS GET POSTED!! FUCK THIS WEEK ASS SITE

  • THESE POSTS ARE RASCIST

    How can you diss T.I? He´s done a lot for the brothers in ATL, you just an uncle Tom, I listen to his album all day…Im half arab and he likes us!

  • BossMobsta

    don’t trip about Bol’s post, dude doesn’t like Southern music really. granted, he does make some good points–the part about em, clef, and jay–why did he hire those guys in the first place? the general consensus amongst critics is that the album is pretty lackluster, if somewhat entertaining. I think this is a fair assessment, fill in the blanks as you wish, but anybody who thinks this shit is good is an idiot.

  • ABC

    Review:
    T.I. vs T.I.P = M

  • ill1

    yeah Im a TI fan but this TI vs TIP album is horrible compared to his other albums….I think he’s getting the big head too soon

  • Tyler

    It got a couple joints on there BoL. I mean is it a beast of an album no. . but it ain’t a shit sandwich either bro. But no one reads your post cause we respect your opinion on music anyway. We just dig hearing U rip on shit bro. Keep doin’ your thang.
    SolutionsGlobalMedia.com aka SGM7.com
    Love it or hate it or tell a friend.

  • JDizzle

    I respect your opinion and all man, but you are way harsh about this album. While yes it isn’t what I expected, TI vs. TIP has some straight up “FIRE” songs on it. Jay-Z has a way dope flow on Watch What You Say To Me and Hurt (ft. Busta & AlfaMega) is possibly the sickest song I’ve heard since the Top Back (remix).

  • Savage Life

    This is T.I.’s worst album yet.In my mind King and Trap Muzik were classics this ain’t even close. I appreciate him trying to be original with the idea, but T.I. VS TIP (THE SONG FROM TRAP MUZIK) is pretty much better than all the songs on this new album.

  • Ryan

    I haven’t listened to it, I’ll give you a listen tonight, but T.I.’s moments have been few and far between in my opinion. Then again I’m a cracker ass hater so what do I know……….my opinion wont matter………

  • News Flash

    Bol,

    What r ur thoughts on the Desire album?

  • http://xxlmag.com Thegeneral

    I have listened to most of it and here is my take on it. T.I. is good at what he does. I think the album shines the most when he is T.I.P because it showcases what I personally felt most of this dude and thats his “I don’t give a fuck attitude,” and that there is what swayed everyones decision to crown him king. Songs like “Dopeman,” “RAW,” and “Watch what you say to me,” is when T.I. goes on hard on this weenies and that there is what makes a good m.c. Think about it when was 50 the shit. When he made songs like “Wanksta,” “In the club ( club song or not he still went hard,” “Many men,” and so many others. Not to change this to another topic but that’s why Wayne is winning right now he isn’t sticking to the formula for radio friendly songs and club hits. The boy is straight spitting and is taking no prisoners while doing it. All of these rappers need to stop worrying about what the label wants and stick to their guns because when hip hop didn’t give a fuck that’s when everyone started gravitating towards it. Subject matter is key also, so we need a complete m.c. who can speak about the struggle (not glorify it) and who can keep the ladies dancing (by their own standards and not by grabbing a horrible R&B singer and having one verse and letting the R&B dude make the whole song) and can make that gangsta shit for the hardheads. T.I. can do it with or without T.I.P he just needs to listen to his old shit and create that A-Town hood shit and be a voice for the people. It’s really not hard just do what you do best.

  • Shiz

    Normally, I don’t like you as a blogger, but, today, I could not agree more. This album sucks dick.

  • Mo Nages

    T.I. is my father

  • Mo Nages

    How come my posts dont show????

  • sATaLyte

    ^^^^
    who da’ fuck is this?!….mail will not be published my ass! anyway we all should of known this album was gon’ blow chunks ere’ body look back to reasonable doubt (sales wise) and den’ determine where tip’s new shit should fall. only the students of the game’ll figure it out.

  • http://www.myglobaloutlet.com Severe

    it aint that bad. its not a great album, or classic. probably the worst of all his albums. but its still worth hearin. got a couple bangers on there.

  • DANJA29

    “the washed up Just Blaze”?

    you’re a nut, Kool Bol Ski.

    And especially after you co-signed that weak-ass El-P album… and you can go on this blog a day later and talk about people haven’t had a good idea in years. Meanwhile you praise a relic from Rawkus Records’ heyday. Wow.

    Oh but yeah, this album is ass.

  • sobossy

    Oh yea, the KING was not the best rap album of 2006 either, it was the Clipse Hell Hath No Fury. And TI vs TIP is definately not going to be the rap album of 2007.

  • these posts are racist

    I read an article in the NY times by Kelefa Sanneh about the TI album, where TIP calls TI out by saying “meet me by the mirror man” in one of his songs. Saying this and sound cool is hard to pull off no matter how dope your swagger is…i can’t wait until the day lyrics, flow, passion and message outweigh “swagger”.

  • http://xxl.com matt halsey

    T.I. is a good mc, but I would never say that im big fan,I like a few of his songs but still feel that he is so over rated and I dont know why, I got T.I. vs T.I.P and it sound so average, even the jigga and eminem one sounds so below there usual stantards. but the there are loads of better rappers than T.I. like jadakiss,Bun B, Scarface,chamillionaire,Talib kweli,common and anyway I love Ludas shit and T.I. cant touch cris, he can do all types of music and does’nt take himself too seriously, I agree the Clipse album was sick also E-40, and im from Oxford,England

  • Lazy

    Both T.I. and Yung Joc are “trap rappers” but they don’t make the exact same kind of music because T.I. would never put out a song like “Coffee Shop.” Joc has no respect for the craft.

    >”What are you, the black Bill o’ Riley?”
    I’ve been thinking the same thing ever since I read Bol use the word “Chinaman” in one of his posts.

    >”Oh yea, the KING was not the best rap album of 2006 either, it was the Clipse Hell Hath No Fury.”
    Personally, I think Fishscale was the best of 06 but thats just my opinion although i do have all 3 of those albums.

  • havoc

    King is way fucking better than this. the only good tracks are big things poppin, touchdown, and you know what it is. the rest of the shit is sorry, even the track with jay sucks.

  • justin

    I totally agree, I had to get the album because i didnt think it could be as bad as BOL says it is, no it is worst. If this album had come out before KING, TI would not have a career anymore. Ranks up there with shitty albums of all time, Em album with toy solider, and DMX green album, and finally anything 50 cent puts out.

    DONT BUY THIS ALBUM, and i am a TI fan

  • justin

    I totally agree, I had to get the album because i didnt think it could be as bad as BOL says it is, no it is worse. If this album had come out before KING, TI would not have a career anymore. Ranks up there with shitty albums of all time, Em album with toy solider, and DMX green album, and finally anything 50 cent puts out.

    DONT BUY THIS ALBUM, and i am a TI fan

  • http://www.myspace.com/djpoopoo Mark aka Dj Poo Poo(T.I. numba one fan)

    You go to da studio and rap.we dont see you rappin.this is da BEST album of the year.you hater. and like T.I. sed he needs haters for that motivation cuz ppl like you are fuel to his fires.

  • brandon

    yall sum real stuck ass up north ass niggas an sum tru 2 life haters i’m a real nigga an i don’t go back an fourth wit hoe ass niggas this album betta den king an is a classic but jus wait until next week my partna gone be number 1 on the charts an yo favorite rapper still tryna cum up wit a hook 2 make a hit record,i’m out westside,BANKHEAD BITCH ASS NIGGASSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  • brandon

    yall sum real stuck ass up north ass niggas an sum tru 2 life haters i’m a real nigga an i don’t go back an fourth wit hoe ass niggas this album betta den king an is a classic but jus wait until next week my partna gone be number 1 on the charts an yo favorite rapper still tryna cum up wit a hook 2 make a hit record,i’m out westside,BANKHEAD BITCH ASS NIGGASSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  • http://www.xxlmag.com/?cat=29 noz

    “Jedi Mind Tricks”

  • http://xxlmag.com ToneFelone

    I AIN’T NEVER SEEN SUCH A COLLECTION OF HATERS ON ONE PAGE IN MY LIFE! SOUTH HATERS, T.I. HATERS, JUST BLAZE HATERS, AND MUSIC HATERS ALTOGETHER. Bump tha songs you like and FUCK THE REST just like it always been!! How many times EVER in the history of rap has a allout ” I love every song” cd came out?? Thats what I thought! Y’all niggaz gettin TOO fuckin critical!!

  • dirrty south

    You are a hater partner t.i. vs t.i.p is real just cause poeple like you were waiting for him to say some thing about luda you call his new album garbage

  • Calibud

    I usually dont fuck wit Bol, but the nigga is absolutely on point wit this post. I wonder how popular TI would be say if he looked like Jadakiss or Mike Jones. I dont dislike him but God knows I’ve tried my hardest to see what the big deal about the guy is. I just dont get the hype. In my opinion TI would’ve been a weed carrier” himself if he came out in the early-mid 90′s.

  • babyboyy

    King was whack, this couldnt be any better. but as far as guests, Jay z killed it man

  • east waco,tx

    ti lost me after the king album and the best song on that album was the remake of ugk song which i thought didnt mix with the album at all. ti iz done unless 2million hoes go and buy his shit hes eyecandy for the ladies thats it

  • babyboy

    I usually dont fuck wit Bol, but the nigga is absolutely on point wit this post. I wonder how popular TI would be say if he looked like Jadakiss or Mike Jones. I dont dislike him but God knows I’ve tried my hardest to see what the big deal about the guy is. I just dont get the hype. In my opinion TI would’ve been a weed carrier” himself if he came out in the early-mid 90’s.

    Co sign u nigga, TI aint no king whatsoeva, nigga is like a fat joe weed carrier, not even a Eminem weed carrier

  • http://www.myspace.com/sinistahmoneybagz Sinistah aka Sin Piffcaso

    will continue to listen to Trap Muzik as if it was his only album.

    and damn u think Just Blaze is washed up…..

  • M.T.

    I gotta agree with you, Bol, except the comment about Just Blaze being washed up. He gave a garbage beat to T.I. but Saigon got his best joints…

  • Umm

    Well it was sold out around here, when I went to get the album it was crowded, hardly no body bought the Pastor Troy or Miss Kelly.

  • DirtDoggy

    Streight Do-doo.

  • Evan

    This album sucks, and I’m not a hater. I respect TI, and I listen to some of his stuff once in a while. But let’s be honest here, this album is definitely not even close to being a classic, and it’s not even close to being considered a good album. And as for some people that I are like “if you don’t like this album, then you don’t know southern hip hop” well, I don’t like this album and I do know southern hip hop and i’m from new york. I love Scarface, Geto Boys, Outkast, Goodie Mob, UGK, Three 6 Mafia. Now that’s some good southern hip hop.

  • KLETEWOOD

    I JUST LISTENED TO THE ALBUM….

    ITS A’IGHT

  • Rodjilius

    tip album is straight the beats are hot but lyrically its not all there

  • Rodjilius

    but its gonna sell anyways tho no matter what people say

  • Fixda

    Can’t say this album so bad. I mean this is straight t.i. shit!Songs will grow on you, and we can bet this album is gonna sell…kinda album that takes time to love

  • THingAlec

    Ok Ok. I never was that big of a T.I. fan either. But c’mon wtf is wrong with the beats?

  • d.r.e.

    i personally liked all the danja songs a lot. bangin beats on all. i dont know what the hate about touchdown is. eminem CAN blow as a producer, but this was not his worst. i actually LOVED help is on the way. i liked the beat and it was the one song where i felt he was saying something. the first to singles were aight, but the rest was pretty much shit. i was expecting the album of the year, but this is not even close.

  • futureblacklawyer

    For once bol i agree with you. I bought the cd this morning and the only good songs were from T.I.P. side, the whole t.i. side was garbage. And it was only like 2 songs i liked from the shared side.

  • futureblacklawyer

    Oh and the just blaze and mannie fresh beats waas killing. T.I. that type of person wereu gotta put him on the right type of beats, other wise he cant do it. But wayne can get on any type of beat and kill it if he want to.

  • Thingalec

    sobossy, Hell Hath No Fury had shitty Neptunes beats. Hip-Hop is Dead was the album of 06. SMH.

  • J.A.I.

    YEA THE T.I. ALBUM IS NOT UPTO PAR AS THE HYPE SAID IT WOULD THE BEATZ AINT THAT GOOD N MOST OF THE TRACKS R WACK KING WAS BETTER I LUV BIG SHIT POPPIN’ TOUCHDOWN YOU KNO WHAT IT IS N HELP IS COMING BUT COME ON T.I. UR ALBUM WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FIRE I GOTTA LISTEN TO IT A LIL MORE IT MIGHT GROW ON ME

  • futureblacklawyer

    King was the best album of 06′ but this album was garbage.

  • Non NY = Garbage

    TI is garbage, in my opinion he always was. Everyone from Atlanta is horrible, Ludacris, Jeezy, it is simply bad entertainment. None of them have the slightest connection to hip hop as an art form. The worst are TI’s titles and this TI vs TIP disaster is atrocious at best.

    This sucks, as Jay’s album sucked as basically all albums sucked this year and last year. I think El-p’s album is the best in years, it is really smart and innovative, something the big money machines at the majors cannot risk to happen.

    The truth is though that good hip hop only comes from New York. I hope that some artists here get their act together and put out something good. It’s been a while.

    Because even if all major artists suck horse dick, they won’t lose. We lose, because we get stuck with shit, and we even feel bad that we downloaded that garbage, because it really wasn’t worth the time.

  • Muslims = SHIT

    #
    THESE POSTS ARE RASCIST Says:

    July 3rd, 2007 at 2:47 pm

    “you just an uncle Tom, I listen to his album all day…Im half arab and he likes us!”

    You bomb loving cavemen don’t belong here. Try to post on blogs in your 3rd world-Muslims-middle ages-primitive-sharia-law shitholes.

    Please leave America, the sign reads ‘ You’re not welcome’.

  • LBDII

    Hot album. Matter of fact probably gonna be album of the year Grammy Or Not.

  • C-Dubb

    YA’LL FAKE AZZ RIDIN T.I. DICK HARD. DA ALBUM IS SOMETHIN SERIOUS. STOP HATIN AND FALL BACK. IF U DON’T HIM, U GON RESPECT THIS HUSTLE AND ITS GRAND BITCHEZ!!!!! ~STILL KING OF DA SOUTH~

  • Chad Biggz

    I thought that is rap music nowadays. Shit Sandwiches. I mean you eat enough of them you will like ‘em. First time I heard ‘Big Shit Poppin’, I thought it was some song at the end of one of Clues mixtapes or some shit. Then after my thousandth time listen to it. It was “Ha” all over again. I like it. I don’t know what these rappers are doing, but step your game up. I never thought I’ll like a jam like “A Bay Bay” I can’t get away from this bullshit. That’s why there isn’t a cd in my car that came out after 2001.

  • Dr Flav

    Still stingin from Tip’s victory from last year, so you throw salt on the day the album drops, wow Bol-lie. What you gonna do if he sells 100-300 k, hold him up to the previous sales market quotas? I laugh at you guys because all of you bloggers and eskay, (who btw is gonna get that email and username, delayed posting shit fixed when NY is relevant again, like never, lol) know the south’s artists have been buttering XXL bread for almost two calendars and by trickle down all ya’lls biscuits. (no extreme nut massaging Sean Carter Nov 2006 issue) PROVE ME A LIAR and Ill hit you with 2 Jeezy covers in less than six months. ROFFLE, NULLUS AND RUH ROH!

  • Cinsere

    LOL…T.I. has, by my count, 2 dope verses (Drive Slow remix, Make it Rain remix) and 1 dope song (What You Know) in his whole career. The hype surrounding this guy is inexplicable to me.

  • Cinsere

    And for the record…Fishscale was the best album of ’06.

  • The Most Shady

    ur fucked up, TI VS TIP is crazyyy, TI is the KING, go cop that

  • The MOst Shady

    TI VS TIP is crazyy, hot album, go cop it, bol’s a hater

  • efrain fernandez

    shit that album was trash but what can you expect me living in the south. i know we got 60% trash like joc/rich bitch/lil mama oh my god i think im going to be sick!!!but their still da real like Z-Ro and Mango and Coast lucky not chingo bling hes just a fad. oh and stuntaman this is efrain fernandez checkin out on behalf of da south tha south as in texas.

  • cuzzo

    im not gonna argue with no one about their opinion, but in my opinion to say this album is garbage, is straight up bullshit. this nigga may not be the most lyrical cat out right now, but there is no one out right now that can flow like dude. not just rappin but flowin. and thats somethin that all the greats can do. right now he is the best. wayne may have better verses but t.i make better songs, may be his best work to date

  • VLsteve

    south sucks…. tha end

  • T.R.E.Y.

    don’t mind Bol, dude needed a new rapper to hate on since Hov’s outta the picture, and Tip fits the bill nicely.

    maybe not good as King (needs some more spins,) but c’mon now bro, you’re reachin’ way too hard tryin’ to front on that album too. and with the Just’s “fallen off” bullshit. stick to listenin’ to El-P’s Supersadsuicidemuzik and leave the T.I.s of the game in peace.

  • Josh The Great

    that t.i. vs. t.i.p. shit is the truth nigga wut the fuck is u talkin bout

  • James

    Who said Weezy was a great rapper. he raps about bullshit. and all the albums he came out with by himself he never went over gold.This year so far i hadnt hear a classic yet. Hip-Hop needs help cuz if i hear “A Bay Bay” again im gonna kill someone.

  • pileofshirt69

    “I’m not going to say it’s a shit sandwich, but TI could have done alot better. ”

    That’s exactly why this album is a shit sandwich. It would have been a forgettably average Rich Boy or Mims album, but this is T.I.!

    I enjoyed parts of “Trap Muzik,” and thought the best moments of “King” were rap’s best moments of 2006, but this album is a collosal failure if only for the fact that it feels totally disposable.

    It’s not some glorious “artist tries something different and makes something biblically bad” like Common’s “Electric Circus” or Garth Brooks’ “Chris Gains” album. “T.I. vs T.I.P.” sucks because it’s BOOOOOOORING!

    The problem is T.I. stopped sounding like T.I. and started sounding like someone trying too hard to sound like T.I.

  • sobossy

    The Clipse had the best rap album of 2006 not T.I.. The KING was garbage compared to Hell Hath No Fury and Lord Willin. And T.I.’s songs/cds all sound exactly alike. He has the same flow on just about every song, most of his beats sound alike, and his hooks are bland.

  • R

    T.I. is the king of the south…

    which basically means he’s the thinnest guy at fat camp

  • Cuban Link

    Cinsere Says:

    July 3rd, 2007 at 9:29 pm
    And for the record…Fishscale was the best album of ‘06.

    ^Actually, no, he had the 2nd or 3rd its hard between him and NaS.The Roots had the best of ’06 easily, and for teh record, Obie Trice was in the top 5

  • Ryan

    “How many times EVER in the history of rap has a allout ” I love every song” cd came out??”

    Nas-Illmatic
    Wu Tang-36 Chambers
    GZA-Liquid Swords
    Jedi Mind Tricks-Visions of Ghandi
    Mobb Deep-The Infamous
    Gangstarr-Moment of Truth
    Jay Z-Reasonable Doubt
    Redman-Muddy Waters

    There’s a few more, just sayin, it can happen……….artists don’t take the time to make complete albums much anymore.

  • T.R.E.Y.

    RD‘s pretty consistent, but a lotta the stuff doesn’t reach the heights of some of dude’s other albums. schmoes jez think they’re “uncool” if they admit they like some of the “pop-rap” stuff on the Blueprints.

  • hoviebabie

    I would buy the album for Jay-Z’s verse thats about it

  • buckback

    fuck yall haters T.I.P till i die best cd in 07 so far better than rich boys shit

  • Bootleg-king

    u would buy the album for 1 verse hahaha come on mayn just bootleg it its every where on the net.u only buy the artists that u respect and enjoy there music.decent album i thought.he killed eminem on that wack touchdown track.

  • yung ceasa

    biggest letdown since jay-z’s “comeback” album kingdom come

  • http://ThiswackassShit FUCK BOL AND HIS MAMA

    yo Bol go kill ya self and tell ya mom she can suck all types of dick with AIDS at the tip. But for real that T.I.P(or ti which ever he feels like) is Gar-bitch. But you can still Kill YO SELF FOR HIP-HOP.

  • Cinsere

    Cuban Link Says:

    July 4th, 2007 at 12:57 am
    Cinsere Says:

    July 3rd, 2007 at 9:29 pm
    And for the record…Fishscale was the best album of ‘06.

    ^Actually, no, he had the 2nd or 3rd its hard between him and NaS.The Roots had the best of ‘06 easily, and for teh record, Obie Trice was in the top 5

    I’m a big Roots fan…and I’ve heard all the acclaim…but for some reason, I really couldn’t get into Game Theory. I think they plateaued with Things Fall Apart. I give Game, Nas, and Lupe the 2, 3, and 4 spots. #5??? I don’t know…my jury’s still out on that one…but I know it’s not King…lol

  • Tony Snow

    dat nigga album weak

  • the most shady

    bol’s a hater, TI’s album is fire, go cop it

  • http://allhiphop.com star

    people are trippin’. this ti album is tight. i can just put it on and let it play, and that is usually a sign of a great piece of work. i love it. its so funny how much hate niggas get when they polish up they shit. this is ti’s most polished album to date. BOI is a big ass hater when it comes to anything down south, so his post is completely USELESS to me. its almost like ny critics give such bad reviews of down south shit cuz they just dont want the south to sell. the climate of hiphop has changed so much that shit like “a bay bay bay”, “lipgloss” and “pop lock and drop” are seen as great songs while creative people like ti are hated on…. with all of this said..dont listen to anyone’s personal opinion…get the album and decide for yourself!!!!!

  • philosoph

    Bol.

    you are an idiot.

  • Umm

    I heard Tip sold 250k yesterday..hate on that

  • http://xxl anthony

    that fucking cd suck thats the worst cd he put out and im a ti fan but this cd aint like the other 1s i guess i got to wait for tha carter3

  • BYGGZ

    I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TOOK EVERYONE SO FUCKING LONG TO REALIZE THAT TI IS FUCKIN GARBAGE–THE KING OF THE SOUTH MY ASS!!!AND HE HAS THE FUCKIN NUTZ TO SAY THAT HE HAD THE FUCKIN NERVE TO SAY HE HAD THE ALBUM OF THE YEAR?? GIMME A FUCKIN BREAK MAN!

  • juelz

    true fat boy, this album was swag. hurt and big shit poppin were half decent tunes, but i gota say dis guy floppd hard. decent producers like danja n the runners couldnt even save him haha

  • http://AHHHHH Boobie

    i cant juxx wit this album…i LOVED, KING…but this one, maybe i need to listen to it again…i dont know who was in control of his beats…but they werent on point AT ALL…

  • diditallj

    The album isn’t a certified manure Sammich posted; the general is T.I. y’all, believe it or not. But this one will not compare to “da greats” though, not by any mindful critics standards.
    keep it movin’ @ms

  • NUJerz

    Its ok not totally wack, but it may be his worst album to date.

  • SBHands

    QU0TE:

    to a lesser degree, the washed up Just Blaze

    HE IS WASHED UP. THIS HIPHOP SHIT HAS GONE TO SHIT. TILL THEN I’LL BE LISTENING TO “ICKY THUMP”.

  • BigCav

    How are the likes of Cinsere and other heads forgetting Clipse Hell Hath no fury? You’ve got to be out of your mind to not place that as either number one or two!

    Everyone needs to stop saying that oh NAS had the best album of the year because they want to be politically correct because honestly, it wasn’t popping.

    Clipse/Lupe/Ghostface

    People need to stop being polite and get honest with these reviews… The bloggers on this site are mostly always on point, its the e-thugs who think they are hiphop heads who try to be nice to the vets. If the album aint good and its ur boy nas or ghost, then be real about it.

  • Washington

    There’s a few listanble songs near the beginning. And the good stuff on King made it worthwhile. But Bol’s right on this one, most of it is pretty shitty. And someone please take away Eminem’s keyboards, that shit is painful to listen to.

  • young tone

    how can u sayn jay aint bring anything. did u hear that verse. thats tha best damn verse on tha album. hov still the best rapper alive

  • DJ M.O.B. THE BLACK MESSIAH

    I’M NOT GONNA LIE, I’M DISSAPOINTED @ THIS NEW ALBUM. IT COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH BETTER. I ONLY LIKE ABOUT 7 SONGS OUT OF THE 20. HE DIDN’T HAVE NOT ONE TRACK BY LONGTIME COLLABORATOR DJ TOOMP. THAT’S PROBABLY WHY IT SUCKS. JUST BECAUSE YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE THIS ALBUM,DOESN’T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO TALK SHIT ABOUT THE SOUTH.I ADMIT THERE’S SOME TRASH OUT THERE. (SHOP BOYZ,HURRICANE CHRIS)BUT IT’S WEAK ASS RAPPERS EVERYWHERE. SO FUCK ALL YOU SOUTH HATERS COME DOWN HERE & TALK SHIT!!!!!!!!!

  • db

    i agree, this album does blow. if hip hop aint dead its defiantly shot in the head because not one good hip hop album has been released this year.

  • JDoug

    You know what, I don’t see how you can hate on somebody wit da talent of Tip, first of all check his bank account, i promise nobody on dis post got half what he got, da man gotta have talent, check his bank account, i know people hate on what they aint got, but dis is crazy, it is just b/c da man is cocky and backin it up, all yall hatin cause you cocky and either got no skill to back it up or fake in general, But whats funny Tip already addressed peops like yall on Trap Muzik “If you think I’m too cocky get in get in front of da line” he don’t care, dat nigga feeds of yall, man yall makin his job easier, Tip got talent, da man can flow period, if you a real rap fan you should know dats all you need to make a good album, and besides dat, he makin a lil sumtin for everybody, while makin his money, fuck wit ya boi, and BoL(all dat hatin you doin, don’t be suprised if Tip see you around sometime, you know what happens den, ask Chaka, LMAO), holla back yea

  • Prince Of The South

    News Flash Says:

    July 3rd, 2007 at 2:36 pm
    I’m not going to say it’s a shit sandwich, but TI could have done alot better. I appreciate the fact that he tried to be creative with this lp(which is a lost art in hip hop today), but he didn’t come through plain and simple.

    Unlike King, he didn’t really show any growth with this lp. It was the same ol’ shit, nothing new and inspiring. Don’t get me wrong, he does have some heat to offer, but not enough to call TI vs TIP a strong album. IMO 3/5

    For the record the best major release of the year(so far)is the Buck album.

    co-sign.

    TIP cd was decent, but he can definately do better. Luda and Nas must have really got under his skin last year because he tried to make a few concept records and proved me wrong. I thought he was talented enough to do it, but he’s not quite there yet. All those songs: Dopeman, Respect This Hustle & Raw and Watch What You Say they sound alike. It’s like he’s scared to step out of that confort zone. He’ll always be good but never a great artist because of this. As far as sales he’ll do about half of Kings numbers the first week. Atlantic got the wrong 2nd single out You Know What It is going to kill most of the buzz TI got right now. TI might hit platinum but he at least going 850-900k.

  • Jhon da Analyst

    T.I. is straight garbage…..period.

  • Jhon da Analyst

    T.I. is straight garbage………..period.

  • sam snead

    da drought 3 is better than t.i. vs. t.i.p. and wayne’s 1000 degrees is better than any track on t.i.’s new joint. that shit was disappointing. real talk.

  • The Real Boy Wonder

    I’m back once again for you unbiased gropup of people. Shouts out to everyone who like the album, as well you should, it’s fire. But, I see all of you Northerners, continue to hate the south but let me drop a few names for you. Lil Wayne and Andre Benjamin. Wayne is all ready rapin’ dudes on tracks, (no homo) and have we forgot about 3000?? As far as I’m concerned Dre’ will Merk anyone in the universe lyrically (including anyone from New England,{thats the North area for you slow pokes})and the only reason he hasn’t because that’s not Dre’. Ya’ll heard him on that UGK, when he puts his mind to it, dude is crazy. Ha, you up north dudes are funny always hatin on the south cause we runnin sh*t. Tell ya homegrown rappers to step they game up because by the looks of it, TI is the KING, Lil Wayne IS the Best Rapper Alive right now, and we have so many people who are a force to be reckoned with.

    I still got love for the North, but it’s time to face facts. PERIOD

  • around and around

    And you had to listen to the album to know that shit sucks???

  • Joe Jack

    You better watch what your saying, lest you have a midget with personalty issues wanting to fight

  • around and around

    Bottom line, anything below the Mason Dixon, sucks ass burger sammiches. (Outkast exempt)

  • Cuban Link

    The Real Boy Wonder Says:

    July 5th, 2007 at 11:55 am
    I’m back once again for you unbiased gropup of people. Shouts out to everyone who like the album, as well you should, it’s fire. But, I suck donkey nuts and dickrides the south because there men are tall and sexy and wear no shirts, continue to hate the south but let me drop a few names for you. That homo hugging bitch ass nigga Lil Wayne and Andre Benjamin. Wayne is all ready rapin’ me which i love at the track at my middle school, (no homo) and have I forgot about 3000?? As far as I’m concerned Dre’ will suck off anyone in the universe literally (including anyone from New England,{thats the North area for you slow pokes})and the only reason he hasn’t because that’s not Dre’. Ya’ll heard him on that UGK, when he puts his mind to it, dude is sexy. Ha, you up north dudes are funny always hatin on the south cause we have bug strong sexy men. Tell ya homegrown rappers to step they blow job game up because by the looks of it, TI is the KING, Lil Wayne IS the Best Blowjob giver Alive right now, and we have so many people who are a force to be fucked with, literally.

    I still got love for the North, but it’s time to face facts. PERIOD

    ^Boy, I wonder…

  • Fernando

    Wow….TPAR enjoys TI vs. TIP on the basis that TI likes arab people. Glad to see you have such strong convictions with what you listen to. Usually people that pretend to be smart try to listen to music with some kind of message. I must say that I am suprised to find out you are a TI fan. I pegged you as more of a Dead Prez type of guy. You know, hate whitey, black people rise, blame the man, etc. etc. etc.

  • Fernando

    Rap might be at an all-time low right now. I check MTV jams, the BANGERS section, and even the local record store that usually carries all the stuff that doesnt make it on TV (Bay area, Indy Rap, etc.) and I havent found an album outside of a few Messy Marv joints that are worth a sh*t. What is going on? Must I be subjected to “A Bay Bay”, “Flirt”, “White Girl”, and all the other crap without any good music to buffer that noise?

    Where is the new UGK album? Camp Lo? Kast? Ras Kass? E-40?, RZA or GZA? Dr. Dre? Rakim? Damn…

    And how did Kurupt make a sick album like Space Boogie Smoke Odyssey and never follow it up with anythind decent. Rap sucks right now.

  • Fernando

    And I enjoyed the Young Buck album to an extent, but if that is the best album of the year next to Devin, Redman, Sean P, and Meth, then there are serious problems

  • Ali

    i heard some of it…..I disagree tha production is great i luv all tha beats….I just wish it was all T.I.P. cuz there are a coupla of “T.I.” songs that suck & dont even try 2 clown because there actually IS a difference….even if ya look back throughout his career he was 2 people…..Motivation was by TIP & Let’s Get Away was by TI…………24′s was TIP & Why U Wanna was TI…………jus pick TIP and go all out next time thats all………….beats r great & lyrics arent mesmerizing but dont suck like YUNG JOC either

  • T.R.E.Y.

    all this North/South hating is tearin’ hip hop apart.

    that token bit said, any objective person’ll admit that NY ain’t exactly been making much of a case for itself commercially lately. not sayin’ they gotta start rhyming over snap beats, but there’s a reason more people’ll be buying T.I.’s new one rather than MC Whoever presents that good ol’ boom bap.

    ya can modernize your sound without compromising your music.

  • gok

    for once I agree with you Bol. I hope the Chamillionaire album is better but then again Cham usually brings heat unlike TI who hasnt made a decent album in a while.

  • whatever

    why dont you just stop listening to rap, go get you the reba macintyre box set, and be done with it you fat fuck?

  • Lil Miss Maya

    i dont really agree that its shit….i aint the best in the world but that dont mean its shit. you shouldnt really compare it to King cuz that was THE SHIT! but this album is gonna go platinum anyway no matter what you think.

  • cuzzo

    obviously you niggas aint listening, this album is fire and t.i is flowing better than he ever has, just might be his best work and to say the man is garbage is nothin more than jealousy, period

  • cuzzo

    the man is outsellin everybody, winnin more awrds than any other rapper, has the hottest albums, and is more consistent than most, you call that garbage, come on man, thats that bullshit. t.i. vs t.i.p. is fire and prolly his best work as far as his flow,.

  • blaze

    most of u ppl dont kno wth ur talkin bout…the album is hard…damn sure aint no classic but its hard….but then again do we really expect a classic album out of TI?…i kno i dont…stop hatin and form ur own opinions ppl

  • alex27

    I am very disappointed in this album. It doesn’t compare to King and some of the lyrics are weak. TI vs TIP is not fire, more like a flame trying to stay lit!

  • Gorilla O

    the problem is all you east coast cats puttin out bullshit! yall aint sellin and the only hot track on your album is the lead single (and it aint that hot). and then yall want to talk about hip hop is dead…well yall the ones killin it. drop some better shit instead of the ’shit sandwiches’ yall been droppin. and finally realize that the SOUTH has taken over and we dont plan on giving it back no time soon!

  • Pronay

    you’re so fat and shy bol.

  • HOMOTHUG

    Ti is the mainstreem darling at the moment. He is the only guy that can rock skinny eyebrows and be Hetero- too. Otherthan that he is No Kanye West or Nas who made they 2 most important albums in 2007. but compared to MIMS RICH BOY and the SHOP BOYS..da king of the south gets more respect than that. in 2008,I think PAPOOSE is going to be the true hip hop savior. dat boi is the truth and a real MC! go buy GRADUATION-album of the year above Mr.TIP..lol