Rap History Is Definitely His Story…

How many of y’all are lining up to copp the ‘hood DVD about the rise and fall of Junior Mafia. In my opinion there really isn’t a rise and fall of J.M., there is just the falling part. B.I.G. was one of those people who was so infinitely charismatic that when he was removed from the equation the center fell apart. He was the glue to a bunch of pieces that could never fit together. There’s really no other way to spin this shit. Besides what haven’t we seen already from Puff’s hands? You know if Diddy had some shit on B.I.G. that he could monetize he would have liquidated that shit already. I just hope niggas don’t get on no crazy shit and exhume B.I.G.’s casket so niggas can view him and touch him. Crazy shit like that happens in Europe.

Junior Mafia? Who the fuck cares?!? But then I started to think… Which rap groups with a centerpiece female rapper really did their thing. Who remembers that group with Sweet T? Exactly, me neither. There was UTFO with the Real Roxanne, but them niggas was like a thousand years ago or some shit. Your homey Noz would know.

There was the Juice Crew who had Roxanne Shante as their female vocalist. Roxanne Shante kept it pretty gully too plus she had that ‘hood rat voice that is just a few octaves away from a screech. She always seemed like one of those chicks that would put Vaseline on her face, pull off her earrings and fight a dude.

Public Enemy was fucking with Sistah Souljah for a minute and the Jungle Brothers/Native Tongue camps were semi-linked up with Latifah until she went all Hollywood on they asses.

I always like Isis a/k/a Lin Que with the X-Clan.

YoYo was kind of down with the Lench Mob, but how many of them dudes can you name?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Wu has never had a chick rhyme from within their 36 chambers.

Lil’ Kim is more hardbody than the entire Junior Mafia clique. She put that sentence for perjury on her back and handled it with no crying out for her mommy.

Foxy in the Firm was *yawwwn* when she wasn’t spitting rhymes about impossible mathematics.

Vita and the Murderers – Never even heard of ‘ya

Amil?

I could run down almost every group that had a female in their ranks and none of them would come close to the Fugees. They need to make a DVD or a reality series about the breakup of the Fugees and why Lauryn Hill so damn crazy. That would be an interesting flick to watch. The Fugees had it all. They were like the Black Eyed Peas, except they had talent, well, Lauryn and Clef had talent. Junior Mafia never even got started. I suppose this is a way to sell some archival footage of Notorious B.I.G. They should have at least dropped this joint around the time of B.I.G.’s born day in May. Hip-Hop continues to suffer from poor marketing.

  • akuma

    byata rhymes with wu.. ill female emcee

  • akuma

    byata rhymed with wu-tang… ill female emcee.

  • The Spaniard

    “Foxy in the Firm was *yawwwn* when she wasn’t spitting rhymes about impossible mathematics.”

    BXS, don’t forget, almost assuredly, biting her only highlight from that Firm album directly from Smoothe Da Hustla’s “Hustler’s Theme”.

    Whatever happened to Smoothe Da’ Hustler anyway? “Once upon a time in America” was ill. Maybe too many people made a come up biting his concepts?

  • Ghost Deini

    Jamie Sommers. She raps on a few RZA & Cappadonna tracks. But most people never heard of her. She’s more of a DJ though.

  • Patto

    Yo billy, i would say Rah Digga, but she might kick my ass.

  • John Brown

    Billy,

    The real question here is. Which group/camp got it worse with the death of pac & biggie. Did the Outlawz get it worse than Junior Mafia? Or is it vice-versa? What about Rah digga and her affiliation with FlipMode?

  • hannah Smith

    Do you realise how gay you sound saying ‘hardbody’ so often?

  • http://www.myspace.com/brilliance1982 Brilliance Proper

    Tekitha was a singer for Wu, then I heard her kick a verse on Cappadonna’s first album on “Pump Ya Fist” and she never rapped again. Interestingly enough, on MTV Europe when Wu were promoting Wu-Tang Forever, they were asked if there would ever be a female Wu emcee and RZA gave a flat “No” with nothing behind it. Wu-Tang is for the babies, not the baby makers.

  • Jetnafrica

    What about MCLyte! She did it for me in the early days!

  • ddubbzz

    Eh…allot of people neve heard of that chick that was ryhming with Jeru the Damaja awhile back. Her name was Miz Marvel. Her and Jeru did an album together called Heroz for Hire. Man…Miz marvel is the most hard body…just never got her shot. I think she still be dong her thing out in Cali. She’s goes by the name of OMEGA now.

  • che

    >I just hope niggas don’t get on no crazy shit and exhume B.I.G.’s casket so niggas can view him and touch him. Crazy shit like that happens in Europe.

    Where in Europe? that sounds like some necrophiliac shit..

  • ridda

    FUCK XXL! I AINT READIN ANY OF YALL BLOGZ AGAIN. FUKIN LAME HATERS. U R ONLY A BUNCH OF LOW LIFE HATERS. IN ALL OF UR GOD DAMN BLOGZ U PLAYA HATE ON BAD BOY SCREW U. NEVER PUT BIGGIES NAME ON YOUR FUCKIN BLOGZ

    nuff said.
    respect bad boy

  • http://www.myspace.com/sinistahmoneybagz Sinistah aka Sin Piffcaso aka Revolutionary Rhyme Rebel X

    not sure if i’mma cop this shit, i seen da first joint Cease put out about Junior Mafia like maybe 2yrs ago. But i don’t know about this one. Maybe i should put out my own DVD fully done wit a HandyCam, and call it da Chronicles of Pifflam, fuck it srry, last day of work til sunday, a dude just tryin to murder a lil time.

  • http://rockthedub.blogspot.com khal

    smoothe da hustla was working with ice t or some shit, if i remember correctly. doing mad ghostwriting, but he wouldn’t say for whom.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    I should kill myself for not calling out one of the best females to ever spit. Rah Digga and MC Lyte were the best.

    I didn’t mention shorty with all the shorties either. What’s her name from Digable Planets?

    JB, you pose a good question and I think that Junior Mafia lost over the Outlawz. J.M. was only built to eat off BIG’s plate while at least the Outlawz wanted to stand on their own two.

  • K.oncernedK.ountryK.ind

    “damn let the late great veteran live”…peace big.

  • John Brown

    Billy X. Sunday Says:

    June 21st, 2007 at 9:14 am
    I should kill myself for not calling out one of the best females to ever spit.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Billy,

    Is that a promise? LOL….I think you forgot bout Digga cause Flipmode never really blew up. I mean come on Spliff is the definition of a “weed-carrier”. Still, you should just put your 9mm in your mouth and pull the trigger for not mentioning RAH “MotherFuckin’” DIGGA…

  • My Effin’ Opinion

    You can probably say the next major crew to fall off other than Jr. Mafia after B.I.G. died would be the fall of Terror Squad after PUN died.

    the Cuban Link beef, their female MC, Remy Ma gone .. if you do some research, it seems as though everyone Pun brought to the table regarding Terror Squad ain’t with them no more. Big Pun was the glue AND the commodity of that crew.

    .. and that Sweet T “It’s my beat” ain’t no effin’ joke.

  • Alarma

    Ladybug Mecca was the shorty from the Digable Planets – “Blowout Comb” was a great album!

  • Danny

    hannah Smith Says:

    June 21st, 2007 at 7:21 am
    Do you realise how gay you sound saying ‘hardbody’ so often?

    ^^^
    Sorry to break it to you, but you should not be calling anyone “gay”…

    I mean, your name is…. Hannah… wtf?

    Hopefully your a chick…

  • ri067953

    What about Miss Melody and BDP? She was aiiight.

  • the r

    wu tang had deadly venoms

    short lived all female rap group

    late 90′s -2000′s i think

  • My Effin’ Opinion

    I just decided …

    Terror Squad > Jr. Mafia

    BIG > FAT JOE
    REMY > LIL KIM
    PROSPECT > LIL CEASE
    PUN > ANYBODY ELSE ON JR. MAFIA

    Jr. Mafia lost

  • smog

    first off pras has talent “ghetto superstar” is a classic song, second pslam one, from chitown, is the best female rap artist in the game right now o yeah i totally forgot about that jeru colab with miz marvel, man the cover to that album was amazing good looking dubz

  • http://www.plasticsquirtguns.blogspot.com thoreauly77

    hmm. ladybug should definitely get some shine, she’s all buttery and beautiful. queen herawin from juggaknots is pretty sick, and that group is not only dope but unique seeing as how they are siblings. also, tiye phoenix, a recent addition to polyrhythm addicts (shabam sadiq and dj spinna’s crew) is an EXCELLENT mc. for sure worth checking out.

    and takitha had the best verse on that pillage track imho.

    peace.

  • Incilin

    That DVD is just stupid and I see no reason for why it should be made.

  • http://cajunpeach.typepad.com/ cajun peach

    yea i was gonna say u completely forgot about rah digga she is definitley under rated. shawnna from DTP is better than all of DTP and a bulk of females. i put her in the top 3

  • John Brown

    MEO,

    Conspiracy (J.M) > True Story (T.S)

    BTW, you can’t compare Fat Joe to BIGGIE. Thats like comparing dirt to gold. Ill compare Biggie to Pun. Now thats a true “heavyweight” match.

    PUN v. B.I.G. who wins?

  • http://www.illdoctrine.com Jay Smooth

    Wu did have the Deadly Venoms thing for a minute..

  • Cuban Link

    There was UTFO with the Real Roxanne, but them niggas was like a thousand years ago or some shit

    ^yo UTFO was dope thou Billy.Kim is the dopest, and she was hot back in the day too.

    and Biggie would beat Pun, just barely though.

  • Cuban Link

    and Terror Squad suck, at least some of Jr.Mafia had flow, Terror Squad is all whack except for my girl Remy Ma, and Pun but he doesnt count cuz hes dead (RIP)

    and i forgot, what about HWA?They werent hot at all and kinda sucked, but they were gully as fuck.They made Queen Latifa look like Kanye West

  • My Effin’ Opinion

    John Brown,

    I would definitely say B.I.G. over Pun but like Cuban Link said, just barely though.

    Don’t get me wrong, I think TS sucks too, but other than Cease and Kim, I can’t name one other member of Jr. Mafia. To me, lil’ cease sucks, so JM was just B.I.G. and Kim (and Puff of course)

    I never picked up Consipiracy or True Story …

  • http://kfc.com Colonel SANDERS does not condone gay porn

    I believe I’ve heard a female MC named Njeri on a track or two with GZA, but other than that, I’m stumped like Bronchitis.

  • You Idoit

    You forgot storm from the outlawz…she’s a female rapper, better then Lil’kim in my opinion

  • http://xxlmag 88andup

    Big over pun but not a sweep tho, pun coulda hang wit anybody…

  • http://www.yby.se YBY

    Gangsta Boo in Three 6 Mafia. Eve in Ruff Ryders. Left Eye. Mia X on Death Row. Ms Melodie. Missy. And you forgot one of the illest: Lady of Rage!

  • ONE50

    The only group of (male) cheesecake fetchers that ever turned out to do anyting that I can recall are G-Unit.

    I’d save Eve did OK as the first lady of Ruff Ryders.

  • NoMamesBuey

    All of you should contemplate self-ethering, for forgetting Jean Grae, is who a WC of sorts for Talib Kweli & the Legendary Roots Crew.

    Grae prolly the 2007 woman MC MVP, plus she would lryically destroy Little Fa-go Wayne, TI, Jeezy, or any of the DJ Bitchamore’s heros.

  • rec

    ridda Says:

    June 21st, 2007 at 8:32 am
    FUCK XXL! I AINT READIN ANY OF YALL BLOGZ AGAIN. FUKIN LAME HATERS. U R ONLY A BUNCH OF LOW LIFE HATERS. IN ALL OF UR GOD DAMN BLOGZ U PLAYA HATE ON BAD BOY SCREW U. NEVER PUT BIGGIES NAME ON YOUR FUCKIN BLOGZ

    nuff said.
    respect bad boy
    ^^^^
    good argument…way to hit ‘em with the facts! (hey Billy! I thought people without basic english comprehension skills weren’t allowed to comment anymore?)

  • http://www.plasticsquirtguns.blogspot.com thoreauly77

    nonames- i left off jean grae because i consider her first and foremost a solo artist as opposed to being a part of a crew. perhaps this is different now that she is on blacksmith, but as of yet she has only been featured on the blacksmith projects that are comps.

  • http://eternallydamned.wordpress.com ThingAlec

    Yeah Black Eyed Peas are pretty much a talentless pop rip off of the Fugees.

  • Chris S

    i’m not even gonna lie, this post was really bad

  • John Brown

    MEO,

    I dont think no one picked up True Stroy. Conspirarcy had some nice songs. I have listened to Conspirarcy though. BTW, to me Biggie over Pun is hard, mainly because Pun doesnt get enough respect. To me its a flip of a coin. Both are legends in my book.

  • ridda

    ONE LAST THING : I BOUGHT CONSPIRACY AND RIOT MUSIK. THE LATTER WAS CRAP BUT CONSPIRACY WAS A VERY GOOD ALBUM WITH SOME FIRE SONGS (DA REALMS….. ETC)

    Rec Says:
    hey Billy! I thought people without basic english comprehension skills weren’t allowed to comment anymore?

    ^^
    i can speak pretty good english btw

  • Ron Lee

    XXL BLOGS ARE BULLSHIT! THEY CENSOR ANY COMMENTS THAT DON’T GO ALONG WITH THEIR DUMB ASS OPINIONS. YELLOW NIGGA, YOU NEED TO FIRE THESE FAGGOT ASSES! ESKAY, BOL, FLUFFY SUNDAY, THEY RUIN THIS SHIT FOR YOU. ONE SOME REAL SHIT, WHATS THE POINT OF HAVING A BLOG WHEN CENSOR THE COMMENTS. I KNEW YA’LL WERE FAGS, BUT I DIDN’T THINK YOU WERE TOO PUSSY TO POST A COMMENT THAT HURTS YOUR FEELINGS. PULL YOUR FUCKING SKIRT UP FAGGOTS

  • Blaze

    u are pathetic

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    Poser-X,
    Here’s how it goes down…
    Yes, I love comics. Frank Miller’s Batman work is crack. Sin City was that shit too. I have a mean sneaker collection and I have an archive of ‘Lo gear. I know the difference between someone who keeps their shit hardbody, and someone who lives their life like a bitchmade pussyclot snitch and I don’t mind talking about these thing wherever I write my shit.

    XXL asks me to talk about my love for Hip-Hop so that’s what I bring to this table. Since you bring nothing to the table but the rantings of a bitchmade pussyclot snitch I will delete your comments until you become a man.

    My advice to you is to take a month off from even reading my threads and go out and get some pussy. Pay for it if you have to. Start living your life like a man instead of some jilted woman. Maybe then you might be able to submit a comment worthy of being published.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    Poser-X,
    nahh f’real sonn, you aren’t getting any burn on these threads. Eskay, nor the moderators are deleting your shit. I am. This is to teach you a lesson. A person can come on these threads and disagree with the shit I write all day, but you bring nada to the forum.

    Like I said earlier, take a month off and change your feminine napkin and then maybe you might get some burn.

  • http://misterrickyblackplanet.com BossGame

    There was this girl called Boss awhile back had this song called Deeper she was kind nice with it back in the day.

  • Duttz

    >I just hope niggas don’t get on no crazy shit and exhume B.I.G.’s casket so niggas can view him and touch him. Crazy shit like that happens in Europe.

    You got any proof? if not then thats kind of a Wierd, dumb and ignorant thing to say, where do you know of in Europe where people dig up the bodies of celebrities to view and touch them…? I’m from England and i aint ever heard about shit like that happening – although i wouldn’t be too shocked if i heard it happened in some place like Romania, Albania or Croatia – they do some crazy shit in those eastern countries

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    Duttz,
    Fuck Romania, the place where you come from loves digging up corpses. England.
    http://www.britannia.com/history/docs/debarri.html

    Learn your history neggar.

  • prevster

    Rah digga – Outsidaz/flipmode.
    She was thorough, stand-alone, + she had two crews each with some talent on board.

    Jean Grae was linked up with those Brooklyn mc’s Pumpkinhead, C rayz and such before linkin with MCEO Talib and the other lukewarm artists at blacksmith so I guess she missed out on history twice.

    Jane doe was nice on that Black star but I never heard from her again after that and a collab with royal flush.

    Remy ma has some history on her side (Big Pun and Fat Joe) but she ain’t building on that.

    It’s hard to accept lil kim as one of the queens in this.. But I guess..