Can Bone Thugs make a comeback?

Ominous new trend: I can hardly make it around the corner to McDonalds to drown my sorrows in fast food without hearing that new Bone Thugs N Harmony record.

Not that it’s that bad of a song, mind you but it could be the most grating Akon chorus on a rap song to date. Beyond the fact that it’s just plain not very catchy as far as these things go, I can’t really say that I appreciate the victimization aspect of it. I thought that Africans were supposed to be enterprising as a people, like other groups of immigrants.

To be sure, I’ve enjoyed my share of Akon’s made for ringtones bullshit, but I was more into the guy when it was mostly just “Smack That” and “I Wanna Love You.” Nowadays when you hear an Akon song on the radio, it’s likely to be either “Don’t Matter” or “The Sweet Escape” by Gwen Stefani, neither of which I particularly care for.

Obviously the fact that Akon is singing the chorus in the first place is a bit of A&R fuckery designed to get them back on the radio over 10 years (yep) after they reached their commercial peak back in the mid ’90s. Which is odd when you consider that a) Bone made their, um, bones in the first place singing their own choruses and b) they were a lot better than it than Akon.

But I guess Akon is more familiar to today’s youth, which is what counts at the end of the day. In fact, he’s about as ubiquitous now as Phil Collins, whom Bone once collaborated with (that just didn’t sound right – nullus), was back in the mid ’80s. Not only can you not turn on the radio without hearing one of his songs, but when was the last time he did something that wasn’t a big hit?

Meanwhile, I pretty much lost track of Bone after that double album they put out after E. 1999 Eternal, (even it was probably 10 years ago.) I was sent a promo copy of that album they put out last year and thought about doing a story on it, but then I listened to it and the shit was just awful. Even XXL boss Elliott Wilson, who’s elevated not having an opinion on shit to a fine art, couldn’t help but dis it.

And truth be told, I never liked Bone very much in the first place. (Nullus?) I was once forced to listen to E. 1999 Eternal on a car trip with the kind of people who consider music the wallpaper of their lives, and I couldn’t help but be at a loss for how it managed to become one of the best-selling rap albums evar. But then I think we all know that I live to hate on shit.

I was checking the wiki though and damnit if this new Bone album Strength and Loyalty doesn’t have its share of high profile collaborators. That coupled with the fact that it’s being released by Interscope (i.e. my benefactor) as well as the fact that “I Tried” is about as ubiquitous as any rap song gets these days (when’s the last time you heard that new T.I. record?) leads me to believe that Bone could be poised for a comeback.

Lord, say it ain’t so.

  • Real hip Hop

    around the city here (dallas), they be bumpin i tried alot, but i think its a shitty comeback single. they shoulda set the buzz with a video 4 Toast 2 That, and made a low budget video for Bumps in the trunk, then get the mainstream world with the lil live song w/ mariah crey

  • Rodjilius

    i got da album its hot bone thugs made a comeback? when the hell were they gone

  • Smitty Pt3

    1st!!! tha new issue of xxl gave that bone thugz cd a l, and they usually give xl’s to every album.

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >bone thugs made a comeback? when the hell were they gone

    Um, the last 10 years?

  • j.rock

    Bone will make a comeback.Midwest 4ever.All you need for a hit single is akon on the chorus.Oh yeah 1st!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Rodjilius

    loser

  • J.R.O.

    ““I Tried” is about as ubiquitous as any rap song gets these days (when’s the last time you heard that new T.I. record?)”
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    So damn true.

  • icantfeelmyface

    first!

  • ONE50

    Nah they aint at full strenght.

  • dduubbzz

    Blah…they should have stayed in exile. Bone plugs and anal harmony…and luckily it’s not played on the radio in VA that much…honestly i havent listened to the radio in about a month…so i could be wrong but for once i agree with bol.

  • Moe Real

    “I can hardly make it around the corner to McDonalds to drown my sorrows in fast food…” without being mistaken for a member of the Fat Boys.

  • DocZeus

    Personally, I really like the new Bone Thugs song. But yet again, I AM from Cleveland and if there is one thing I can learn from my brethren in the South is that you have to support artists from your region no matter how crappy they are.

  • thoreauly77

    blog buzz = commercial death. why? because the people that actually read the blogs are the ones that download. like bol, its likely they will download bone.

    sorry senor crawford.

  • DANJA29

    Yeah, it’s kinda crazy. I woulda sworn Bone Thugs were far, far from making a comeback or even making a relevant record again- since folks pretty much got away from them after the late-’90s.

    But damn… they got one!

    But Bol, come on now- “get Skee-lo on the phone?” Bone Thugs’ summer ’95 hit was preceded and followed by more hits. Skee-lo? Not so much.

  • Paul

    what about ridin’ dirty and notorious big – spit ya game? krayzie bone was still known to a lot of people. every other rap song only krayzie bone appeared on was creditted as “featuring bone thugs n harmony”.

  • Fernando

    Whoever their manager is needs to be fired. They had three consecutive albums of fire, then somebody put it in their ears that they should try solo-ventures which all turned out to be dogg-shat. Now light-skinned-bone dropped out the group and they are crying about “trying soooo hard” everywhere I look. Shoot, if they were “trying sooooo hard” what the hell were they doing for the last 10 years besides smoking beaucoup Lettuce?

    Damn Bol, how old are you? If you are anywhere in the 24-30 yr. old age range, how did you make it through middle school-college without enjoying any Tupac or Bone? Im guessing you were the fat black kid that the white skater kids brought along to convince themselves they were down. What were you bumping? Ween? STP?? Soundgarden? They Might Be Giants? Crash Test Dummies? You have no rap credibility.

  • http://www.jameslambjr.com J. Lamb

    Hating on Bone? Why?

    Look, let’s be honest – artists like Bone Thugs always gain moderate love from hip hop because they were one of the groups that made the mid’ 1990′s era rap’s golden age. These guys presented a truly innovative hip hop sound (based around haunting R&B meets gospel choruses and speedy, melodic Gothic gangsta lyricism) that mainstream Americans enjoyed without criticism, since Top 40 radio listeners couldn’t decipher most of their lyrics anyway.

    The point is that Bone Thugs should never have fallen off in the first place, like the Wu and other mid ’90s groups, who sold millions of records through skillful infusions of creative genius and corporate marketing savvy. E.1999 Eternal offered criminal street rap in its purest, most authentic format. These guys made a classic album the old-fashioned way – they didn’t think! Artists today can’t compose tracks based around brotherhood and friendship like “Down ’71 (The Getaway)” because focus grouped, poll-tested corporate rap music only authorizes minstrel show coon rap a la MIMS or every Dipset track you’ve ever heard.

    Hell, “Down ’71″ presents a wonderful example of Bone Thugs mastery of rap-as-art: amid a kick-ass crime drama, the only theme is saving your friends. In the 90′s, many young Black men like myself heard that message loud and clear, and will always respect Bone Thugs contribution to rap music’s ascendancy.

    And for the record, “I Tried” is a damn good song. Krayzie Bone within the first verse identifies the unceasing difficulties Black men face making positive moral choices in this country. Hell, the entire video revolves around unneeded and damaging racial profiling in inner city communities, used to counter the Black community’s crime rates. Bol, your issues with Bone Thugs’ comeback hit should address the group’s willingness to challenge mainstream stereotypes of degenerate Blackness in this music.

    Because it seems to me that “I Tried” presents the latest example of Bone Thugs doing what rappers are supposed to do: challenge people. I’d certainly take this over another cellulite-heavy booty video.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com King Ben

    Bone fucking sucks! Get your money, not hating on any men getting dollars, yet Bone is just awful I always could not stand them dudes.

  • http://xxl RAFAEL

    DAMN BYRON DO YOU LIKE ANY RAP?? MATTER OF FACT YOU ALWAYS DISSIN, SO EITHER YOU A SKATEBOARD BITCH OR HOMO??? YOU LET US KNOW, BONE BEEN DOWN AND THEY ARE M-FUCKIN LEGENDS IN THIS GAME GIVE THEM THEIR PROPS SUCKA!!!!!!!!!

  • Danny

    Dipset is the best group of all time…

    Competition is obsolete.

    Ya dig?

  • yung ceasa

    ok bol regardless if bone’s comeback is successful or not, the fact is that they (as an quintet) became legends….if you dispute that fact….listen to erry other rapper or pop act that came out in tha last 10 years, bone has been swagger jacked more than biggie has (true story). go down the list. nelly, justin timberlake, twista, a lot of (underground) midwest artist lately, and some of tha niggas in tha south has even tried to be these niggas. hell even akon, jacked their stlye. besides that, bone’s first two albums (three if you count that indie one they dropped in like ’91, ’92-ish) was fuckin fire, and if you’ve already heard S&L then you would have to agree its on point. so to answer your question bol, i say that bone is definetly primed for a comeback.

  • Blaktwan

    Bone’s the best sellin’ rap group of all time. Look it up.

  • bizz

    nop, no bizzy, no come back, no harmony, no shit.

  • yung ceasa

    all haters (bol and king ben) bow down to them midwest legends….. those kings of cleveland after all the points that have been made in bone’s favor, the hate should be (therefore it is) null and void

  • http://www.first.com First

    Dipset is better than Bone? That’s honestly the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Holy shit that was dumb.

  • G-Unit Soldier

    i think mop and bone are equivelant

  • CHEPE5150

    THUG STORIES SUCKED!

  • http://www.btnhboard.com Seeking

    So is this a bone thug come back article or an Akon Hate article?

  • Fernando

    Dipset isnt even a group, so I dont know what the hell y’all talkin bout.

    And if you are really talking about groups, how bout mentioning, say……..

    Outkast, Goodie Mob, Ghetto Boys, Wu, BootCamp, NWA, Above the Law, etc. etc. etc.

    Damn, a best rap group discussion boils down to Dipset vs. Bone Thugs around here??? WTF is going on???

  • http://www.xxlmag.com King Ben

    Bone fucking sucks. Plain and simple. I’m sorry I ruffled your feathers “yung ceasa” (swagger jacking Fif from his movie fanboy) Bone fell off because they started making shitty music period. All of them. They suck. The fact that Akon is on their shitty new single solitifies my theory, they don’t have a fanbase no more, they have to borrow from Akon’s 14 year old boys and girls, just keeping it real like a King should you Beezy.

  • http://www.2pac.com Si Ryan

    Damn Bol, how old are you? If you are anywhere in the 24-30 yr. old age range, how did you make it through middle school-college without enjoying any Tupac or Bone? Im guessing you were the fat black kid that the white skater kids brought along to convince themselves they were down.

    Damn right bitch… bone is back… cop that album… fuck bol…

  • NOTORIOUS AGC

    standin on tha corner straight slangin rocks aaaaaawww shit here come tha mothafuckin cops…

  • http://www.xxlmag.com King Ben Fo’ Real

    Thank you (Bizz), yeah wasn’t the cracked out looking one the one who sang and did that chanting bulshit they called chourses? He’s gone and they dissed dude and said he was mental, wasn’t he the illest of the group? I could be wrong since I’d rather pierce my balls with a pocket knife then listen to an entire Bone album.(No Homo) I had to listen to like 8 songs off of one of their known albums when riding with friends smokin and what have you. People who still listen to Bone are the same people who have All Eyez on me, Doggiestyle,a mixed c.d. of 1996 gangsta radio rap, and a fucking Eazy-E greatest hits album. Mostly white kids like (Young Cesa)who think because they know all the words to “Ghetto Cowboy” their HipHop heads (pause) get the fuck outa here.

  • Cuban Link

    ive always liked BTNH, but I gotta admit they fell off after E.1999, I’ll prolly grab this new one tho, cuz im feeling I Tried.

    Just for the record, why is is that in hip hop yall act like its impossible to make a comeback

  • BONE THUG FAN

    man yall muthafuckas at xxl love to hate on bone dont u. yall gave bone a fucking L, but the source gave them 4 mics. Yall just full of bullshit and jus hate on bone.

    HELL more than half of the rappers you like, but betta gotdamn belief bone gave them niggas their style or were influences to them.

    Shit, yall jus need to fess up, BONE was the only rap group to ever make up their own style and still whole their own.

    AND DIPSET, G U NIT,OUTKAST,DO OR DIE, NWA,AND ANY OTHER FUCKING RAP GROUP

    AINT GOT SHIT ON BONE. KRAYZIE BONE WILL MURDER 50, JAY,NAS,LL,MIMS,ANY OTHER MUTHAFUCKAS,

    JUS PUT IT LIKE THIS, IN THE RAP GAME IF U AINT FROM NEW YORK, U GETS NO LUV. LIKE NAS, HE AINT SHIT, AINT DID SHIT, BUT RAP ALONG TIME, BUT YALL NIGGAS IS ALL ON HIS DICK.

    BONE CHANGED THE WHOLE GAME, AND NOW YALL HATIN, U WONT CATCH ME BUYIN ANOTHER XXL MAG AGAIN

  • igy

    hater bastard…..

    u got to give respect for bone man

    who else sing whit tupac , b.i.g , master p , eazy-e and alot of rap bosses???

  • BONE THUG FAN

    AND HOW THE HELL DID BONE FALL OFF AFTER E1999 IF ALL THESES CDS SOLD THIS MUCH

    ART OF WAR-4 MILLION
    KRAYZIE BONE THUG MENTALITY-1.5 MILLION
    FLESH N BONE-5TH DOG LET LOOSE-1 MILLION
    BIZZY BONE HEAVENZ MOVIE-1 MILLION

    BTNHRESSURECTION- PLATINUM IN 2 1/2 WEEKS(YEAH THATS WHAT U CALL FALLING OFF)

    MO THUGS FAMILY REUNION-2 MILLION
    HOW CAN ALL THESE RECORDS BE SOLD AFTER E99 AND BONE FALL OFF?

    BUT THATS AIGHT IMMA MAKE A PREDICTION

    STRENGTH AND LOYALTY- 1.7 MILLION BUY THE END OF JUNE

    • land of tha heartless

      cleveland rawer than your town. come here and see. the east side gutter as all hell. no one can mess with cleveland. bone sold over 40 mil. what

  • yungwun3108

    “But then I think we all know that I live to hate on shit.”

    thats why this review is useless ,u just a bustah ass nigga Bone always raps about u a playa hata. thats all ,now i understand why u dont like em,u think to urself damn these songs about me,lol.ur wack son.so fuck ur review.thanks

  • Kray

    Bone Thugs is the best of all. I LOVE the new album and i suggest any hip-hop fans go pick it up. Its the best of 07 GUARENTEED. To hear that you guys doubt Bone so much makes me sick. They are 10x better then ANY mainstream rapper now-a-days. Even Wish is better then any rapper out now, and thats saying something. If you like Pac, Biggie,Big Pun, Ice Cube and even Eazy you should like bone. They all called up Bone to do a track. Ruthless Records wouldve folded if they didnt have bone. Bone is better then all. That is all i have to say. If you dont like it you are not a fan of hip-hop or rap (good rap, not gay ass T.I. 50 Cent mainstream gay faggot ass rap)

  • dutch smokah

    damn people these days rather here some stupid azz rap music comming from artists like gay-unit, chingy, lil wayne…lil wayne a good freestyler????/ get the f out of here. flow? get the f out of here……I dont say you must go and buy all 55bone thugs, affiliated albums but what people need to know is that these days music is about the beat and chorus and not about a story that needs to be told….and that is something bone thugs still do.. touching subjects that need to be touched.

    go on and listen to what artists rap about these days: bitches, 28inch rims , poppin people, guns and how gangsta they are.

    bone thugs are one of the few that actually talk about something that matters.

    and hey……they only broke the beatles record back in 1996, I guess nobody else can say that……

    I say BIG UP FOR BONE THUGS-N-HARMONY

  • krayzieni99a

    I See The Headlines Now

    Rap Group Bone Thugs N Harmony Locked Up For Beating Steve Urkel Impersonator

  • http://www.idontgiveafuk.com D-MurDa

    I hope bone is #1 in sales so they prove your goofy ass wrong.

  • http://xxlmag.com bfitz

    dude, wtf

    bone thugs has the biggest cult following there has ever been for a rap group. falling off?? you are fucking crazy man, legends never die. I’ve heard the album and I think it’s great. They stay loyal to themselves, fuck the game and fuck the bullshit. I would like to see any rap group go through the shit they have and still sell 50,000 copies of a Koch album without any promotion. G-Unit and Bone in the same sentence and someone should smack the lips off ya face!!! Bone Thugs over 30 million albums!!!
    and Bol, Bone has a song for you “playa playa playa hate me hate me, fuck it we don’t care”

    I will never buy another xxl mag again, they showed Bone love back in 2003 with the cover and now they disrespect.

  • jbone43

    wow…… dipset better then bone???? i mean seriously, u haters are crazy. u may not like bone but that does not mea they suck!!!!they are the MASTERS of this rap game so get used to hearing bone thugs cuz they aint going nowhere….. and fuck all u hatin ass bitches that posted that bitch ass hate on here, yall is some bitches

  • http://www.myspace.com/dscores dscores

    http://www.myspace.com/dscores
    my come back is already here

  • Crumbs

    Big-ups to JLamb and Fernando. True indeed Bol “What the hell did u listen to growing up?” E1999 is definitly in my top 25 list. Art of war was another master piece. Too bad Bizzy called it quits. Plz Bol stop hatin

  • Ali

    that chorus is sick…..damn nuttin impresses u huh? im pretty picky when it comes music too but how could u (tha pickest ever) think Biggie is tha best ever? beats me

  • Harold Crick

    White people don’t listen to Bone because it makes them feel authentic hip hop fans or whatever. They listen to Bone because Bone is fucking good.

  • Ash969

    Dem Bone boys are one of the realest in the game.

  • http://myspace {B.H.G}

    man bone thugs is the greatest group ever..im white/mexican and i listen to bone thugs..they would shit on 50 and dipset & whoever think they got good lyrics n shit..

    {B.H.G} 4 LiFE

  • yung

    ill tell u how much of a mystery Bone Thugs are.. they went on BET 106 & Park and performed “Crossroads”. Now that record is 10 years old.. the 106 & park audience is 15-18 which would mean these kids were 5-8 yrs old when it dropped…

    are the marketing clowns at Interscope considering todays demographic at all?

    Did they ever stop to think that a hit 10 years ago doesnt mean squat today, as the record buying public is ummm… alot younger

    Niggaz in Bone Thugs is 35 fuckin yrs old rappin…

    “U 38 and u still rappin Ugggghhhh”!

    The industry is fuckin backwards!

  • judasbarronx1

    I saw the “I Tried” video and thought it was cool. The song is str8 ta me. What’s so bad about this song that this Steve Erkle lookin’ reviewer guy doesn’t like? He admits to NOT liking Bone, yet reviews their album? What kinda sense does that make? Is it smart to ha a BIASED reviewer review this group he can’t stand?

  • blow me

    “I couldn’t help but be at a loss for how it managed to become one of the best-selling rap albums evar.”

    a. “Ever” does not have an ‘a’ in it (your a columnist writer?)

    b. After that comment, you clearly have no grounds to critique any album. in any genre. ever.

    c. you look like a bitch

  • J.A.M.E.S.

    Bol, when you write of “people who consider music the wallpaper of their lives”, do you mean people who never really pay attention to the muscic?
    cause yeah, that would definitely affect your enjoyment of a bone thugs record.

  • Smitty Pt3

    fuck bone thugz, you wanna know whos tha truth? ME, smitty pt3, fuck everyone else

  • yung ceasa

    and oh yeah fuck smitty you aint shyt so quit hatin nigga

  • http://xxlmag.com bfitz

    Let’s just see how many albums it sells next week…

  • daesonesb

    Bol, heard the new bone thugs single where they sample The Chain by Fleetwood Mac?

    You’d get a chuckle out of it.

  • daesonesb

    Its Called Wind Blow

  • X’ Prime

    they never been off they always been rappin and going on the top, here they are, GET READY FOR A DOMINANT BONE THUGS N HARMONY !

    FLESH AND BIZZY MUST BE HERE TO RULE THIS FUCKED UP BULLSHIT RAP MUSIC! SO Bone Be 5 AND STRONGER THAN EVER

  • Ft.Worth (FUNKYTOWN)

    bone thugs is my favorite rapping group but without bizzy and flesh they aint going anywhere

    sorry

  • ~L7~

    FIRST!!!!!!!!

  • krayzieni99a

    bizzy aint shit, but flesh my nigga

  • Lil Rated R

    Fuck all those muthafuckas who hate bone!! Bone thugs n harmony is the best group of Rap/R&B ever and they’ve never gone they are still here fuck all those “Playa Haters” you are mad because nobody can clone Bone . what does mean “comeback” they havent gone the difference now is that they are comercial again with that Full Surface/Interscope deal so they can appear on the Hip Hop Mainstream again. But that doesnt matter underground or commercial the R “The Best”. I dont have nothing against the other hip hop artists but they just “Sounds the Same”.
    much love 4 Bone, Much Luve 4 Bizzy!

  • JuniorG

    Bone Thugs n Harmony are worldwide hip hop legends and that’s a fact, they sang with 2pac, Biggie, Eazy-e, Master P, Snoop, etc. back in the days and they can still comeback and do a hit with Akon. Any hating nigga saying otherwise is just straight ignorant. Oh and BOL learn your fucking hiphop abc’s, Bone got a lot of props selling Platinum or better not only with E. 1999 Eternal, they gotta lotta props with Art of War, BTNHRessurection, and on the single artist level Krayzie Bone’s Thug Mentality was a hit as well Bizzy Bone’s Heaven’z Movie. They are one of the best selling Hip Hop groups in the history with over 35 million copies sold Go check (http://www.riaa.com/gp/database/default.asp) their only problem was they were signed with Ruthless which fell off after Eazy-e’s death and they never really got the chance to cash in the game if wasn’t for that Bone would probably be on that hip hop entrepreneur level just like P.Didddy, Snoop Dogg or Master P. Bone never got lots of promotiom with their previous albums and they still managed to sell gold or even platinum so STOP HATING on BONE, they BACK in THE GAME and this time they CASHING IN… so WATCH OUT YOU FUCKIN PLAYA HATAZ

  • bfitz

    bizzy can’t show up for shit…he had the chance to be on this album and in the group, but as Layzie says “where is he??”

  • SIR DEZAL

    “I TRIED” AINT A BAD SONG-JUST BAD FOR A “COMEBACK SINGLE” THAT “BUMPS N DA TRUNK” WOULD’VE BEEN HARD FOR A SINGLE. BUT ITS THIS NEW CAT FROM CLEVELAND NAMED SIR DEZAL THAT GOT OHIO ON FIRE RIGHT NOW!..(MYSPACE.COM/SIRDEZAL)

  • luckythug

    Ya don’t know shit. I outta punch ya in tha eye for talkin’ shit like that. These lil’niggas have produced hit after hit, with and with B.B. So in closing fuck all ya’ll that don’t like’em. Bone 4 life

  • http://myspace.com/call_tyrone mr. perfect

    Damn, who ever wrote this article is a hatin’ ass nigga. e. 1999 was the shit. fuck was you listenin to in 95′, alternitive rock? get your taste buds checked out playboy, and be a lil more careful with that wreckless hate next time. -1-

  • F 8 L

    THA ONLI REASON THERE COMBAK IZ BEING QUESTIONED

    IZ BCOZ BIZZY N FLESH AINT IN THA PICTURE RIGHT NOW

    SO ALL U HAYTAZ CAN JUST SHUT THA FUK UP AND WAIT 4EM’

    BCOZ WEN DERE BAK ITS OVA!

  • ballsack johnson

    bone thugs have the best group catalogue of music in hip hop history.

  • Lil`Ripstah

    Damn e.1999 is the best shit bone have ever recorded s dont hate on it…SHIT!!!! ol you hate bone thugs FUCK YOU 2… Ol you mutha fucka,,fuck you 2!!!

  • LEFTY

    BTNH forever, UNI-5