Snitching Will Get You Stitches…

Since I haven’t weighed in yet on the whole ‘To snitch or not to snitch’ issue, and since Noz calls me ‘Captain Save A Hip-Hop’ I suppose I should bring my thoughts to the table. The reality of the matter is that if you live in one of the nation’s disenfranchised neighborhoods then you are already two degrees removed from dying. The police and the criminals have formed an unholy alliance which has only one thing on it’s agenda. Enslavement – either mentally or physically. In New York’s Washington Heights a police precinct was throttled when Federal investigators arrested two dozen officers for narcotics trafficking. These police strategically ran their operation using dealers as their street liaisons and enforcers.

If you were unlucky enough to place a complaint to that precinct about drug dealing in your apartment building you would receive a visit from thugs when you least expected. This is terrorism and these are the conditions that people in poor communities live under. You are sandwiched between criminals of all types. All you can do is walk around with blinders on and hope that your doorbell is never rung. The discussion will never focus on the tremendous amount of money that is generated by crime like narcotics trafficking and the people (corporations) who will do anything to insure that the stream flows steady. In the real world that even some rappers occupy, snitching is most definitely a matter of life and death.

Now on to some other, other shit…

The dude called Noz that writes his shit down the block from here is fond of letting slick shit slip out his mouth sideways. That’s part of the whole internets phenomena called ‘keyboard thuggin’. It’s usually reserved for bitchmade niggas. I will use my little forum to clear some things up so that at least you good folks will see my point of view before it gets manipulated by the people that rewrite ourstories into history.

Noz – I do respect your grind. Your knowledge of rap records is pretty much undisputed except for a few dates and exaggerations here and there, but generally speaking, you know your shit when it comes to rap timelines and progeny.

Noz – I do not respect your desire to come into my lane (this blog) and submit your social critique of my writing as regionally xenophobic and homophobic. Not favoring homosexuals doesn’t make a person homophobic and not liking music from another part of the country because it sucks doesn’t mean that I hate all of that regions artists.

I watch shows on television like National Geographic or Nature and they always have this Euro voice describing the scene within an environment that the Euro voice is not directly from. I never hear an African sounding voice describing the religious culture of Israel or the lifestyles of Holland. This is because supremacy discounts these other voices and our mental programming has become so attuned to this I don’t imagine we would even feel comfortable listening to someone other than a British guy tell us a historical fact. This is what I gird against sometimes with your analysis. Your supremacist programming tells you that something is authentic inside rap music because it reflects a jungle scene and when that scene is not described you discount the content.

That is your right as an opinion but it’s flawed because it uses the framework of supremacy for it’s guidelines. Same as Breihan and exactly the same as Sanneh. All of you review rap records, but none of you are Hip-Hop. One day you wrote that Hip-Hop was created to party. You are dead ass wrong. Hip-Hop was created as a ceremony. It was a ceremony for surviving in the ghetto under impoverished supremacist conditions.

New York City in the 1970’s was going broke. Public services were being decimated on a wholesale level. Neighborhoods wouldn’t have hot water or trash pickup or weeks at a time. Even gasoline was at a premium. People bathed during the summer heat under fire hydrants and often the only electricity had to stolen from streetlamps because Consolidated Edison companies was quick to cut the switch on late payers. At the end of the week there was nothing greater than the ceremonies that brought people out of their un-airconditioned hi-rise apartment buildings to listen to music, to dance and to dream of a better life. The masters of the ceremony did their part to keep the energy high and the crowd lively. Even within this image of the ghetto urban utopia there was still friction and strife. But all of these ups and downs are the results of abject poverty.

You don’t have to have lived in this to show it the respect it deserves but you need to respect the essence of this Hip-Hop shit. When you call me Captain Save A Hip-Hop you are being funny and girlie-cute, but the truth is that inside of my humor I take this shit more seriously than any gangsta trap rap song you evar heard in your life, because I know at the end of the day it won’t be myself that will be sought out by supremacy to define the legacy of Hip-Hop. It will be someone with the Euro voice.

So as far as what you think in your mind that I represent for this Hip-Hop shit we will agree to disagree, but you had better well, fucking well accord me the respect for being Hip-Hop and watch your mouth. XXL Mag Dot Com is fun and games, but it ain’t the real world. In the real world, you could get a smack for that.

Smack me and I will smack you back.

  • Holla

    Net beef is serious!

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    Good lord.

  • My Effin’ Opinion
  • thatdukeSuave

    DAMN! Did we just witness the unruly awakening of a sleeping giant? Don’t ever sleep on Bol’s knowledge! Y’all beef internally too damn much! Noz can’t ether that ESPN chick though, and Bol been duckin that asian Rolling Stone pigeon? Hmmm…Asian duck…

  • Pancho

    BLOGGER WARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    lol…but seriously…I have a question…was hip-hop also created in order to express what is seen in our daily lives?

    Because if that’s the case….then the hip-hop we listen to is a direct reflection of what’s going on in the world today (well, at least here in the states).

    All of this may be obvious….but what I’m trying to comprehend is…can we blame and bash hip-hop for a lot of ills of society (and for being just utter trash)…even though it’s what we all see everyday?

    Hopefully my question is clear enough to warrant different answers from different people that are from different parts of life….

  • GERALD N THE BIRDMAN

    Andy Nosnitski is only carrying on the American tradition of White amusement at negro coonery. He’s preserving the culture.

  • dduubbzz

    DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!! get em yo!!!!!!!!!!

  • 6 100

    Smack me and I will smack you back.

    WOWZERS! ! !

    Billy X slapped Noz back with a closed fist.

  • thoreauly77

    yikes!

  • My Effin’ Opinion

    This is Hip Hop in the flesh people …

    The Hip Hop Artist beef
    The Hip Hop Producers beef
    The Hip Hop DJ’s beef
    The Hip Hop Artist’s Managers beef
    The Hip Hop journalist/bloggers beef
    The Hip Hop heads who visit the Hip Hop site beef
    The Hip Hop website’s owners beef (xxl vs sohh)
    The Hip Hop entourages beef

    It’s a fuckin’ wonder that we still exist as a music genre. I woulda thought that we would have “disco’d out” by now.

    Instead of worrying about Anderson Cooper, Bill O’Reilly, Al Sharpton and the rest of them shutting us down, we need to realize that we gonna shut ourselves down first.

    *gets up and smacks the guy next to him*

  • DocZeus

    Damn, Billy there’s no reason to go all “Bun B” on noz like that.

  • Mr. Johnny Lawrence

    Man…fuck noz…tired of his cracka ass. “Possee on Blogway” Thats the gayest shit i evar heard yo…word up Billy, it’s not in him homie

  • whitechoco

    Very well put..

  • My Effin’ Opinion

    “I don’t imagine we would even feel comfortable listening to someone other than a British guy tell us a historical fact.”

    ^^^

    Unless your James Earl Jones, of course …

  • Combat Jack

    Whoa! Did Noz just get knocked the eff out? Have at ‘em D!

  • john cochran

    “Hip-Hop was created as a ceremony. It was a ceremony for surviving in the ghetto under impoverished supremacist conditions”
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I never heard hip hop described liked that. That shit is so true. Sometimes you can be a genious, just dont follow this up with some wayne bashing. I dont feel him either, but let him live cause the youngins like him. And as far as your comments on Noz, cut it out. Net beef is gay.

  • Crimson

    E-thuggin’ at its finest. I’m riding with Noz on this one.

  • sublicon

    billy sunday = the truth

  • Combat Jack

    ^ ““I don’t imagine we would even feel comfortable listening to someone other than a British guy tell us a historical fact.”

    ^^^

    Unless your James Earl Jones, of course … ”

    I thought that before it was posted. James Earl Jones and the new Black voice of all things White America, Dennis Haysbert.

  • Incilin

    Damn Sunday backing niggas down. This is a real ill blog, your description of the invention of hip hop is real interesting. I wonder what Noz gone say?

  • EReal

    LMAAAAOOOOO!!!

    Damn BXS dont play, Elliott might hafta get involved, bahahahahah!

    1 hunned.

  • http://blogs.hiphopdx.com/meka Meka Soul

    >“I don’t imagine we would even feel comfortable listening to someone other than a British guy tell us a historical fact.”

    ^^^

    Unless your James Earl Jones, of course …>

    what about keith david? he was gully as goliath in “gargoyles.”

  • dameSTATii

    I fux w/ both of y’all, but Billy is real intelligent and informed on the low. Paraphrasing something from dp.com the other day: “Don’t let the nekkid beezies and dead children pix fool you’.

    Or that ‘Pod w/ the eye patch either. LOL.

    Question: Are DP and Billy Sunday the same guy?

  • outya’self

    damn noz he jus’ ethered yo ass via keyboard!
    mad respect mr.sunday, mad respect.

  • OG Frank

    Ridiculous Shit!

  • smog

    killed it

  • smog

    killed it

  • J.R.O.

    “The police and the criminals have formed an unholy alliance which has only one thing on it’s agenda. Enslavement – either mentally or physically.”
    ^^^^^^^
    Take ‘em to church, Sunday.

    Fuck Noz. Nah, I’m playin’. But, you have to admit I sounded like one of them ‘G-Unot’ kids, right?

  • Nielsen

    I really don’t think calling someone’s comments homophobic or xenophobic is ‘keyboard thuggin’.

  • http://www.akirathedon.com AK DONOVAN

    Ow!

    Stop it!

    TRUTH!

    Such truth!

    OWWWWWWWWWW!

    @!

  • FuckUPayMe618

    Co-sign I see where you going with your post. Alot of these new school rap fans dont have respect for legends, or the elements of hip hop. The more they keep accepting the trash thats being fed to em the faster this art form is gonna die. They rather do the motorcyle dance or kiss sum 1 who is not their biological father(at 29 years old: what a faggot lol) vs going against the system. Cats are getting hype off fake rappers with no talent. The Ti’s love it when african americans support coonery b/c it keeps us from progressing.

  • http://dahshyt.blogspot.com Belize

    Good Post. Yo, u should do a top 25 too doggie- here’s mine for shyts and giggles:

    dahshyt.blogspot.com/2007/04/25-shots-to-your-dome.html

  • BIGNAT

    smack me and i will get a girl to smack you back men don’t smack each other. at least straight men don’t smack each other hahahahahah

  • A.Cambry

    Man, Noz must have really $hitted in your corn flakes.
    I really didn’t know you had that in you Sunday. Good job.

  • HIJOKKA

    Billy Sunday , I may not agree with everything you say all the time but most of the time you preaching tha truth unlike another blogger (byrrroooon). Atleast you don’t wtite just anything to keep people reading your shit. But I must admit BOL treating this shit just like 50 treats the record biz — more haters mo publicity — keep bringing a “grown man’s” perspective cause not all of us is “little kiddies”

  • Hip Hop since 79′

    Noz got handled.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com/?cat=29 noz

    today is my day off. i might address this on monday when i’m getting paid for it.

  • king blair

    noz Says:

    April 27th, 2007 at 6:05 pm
    today is my day off. i might address this on monday when i’m getting paid for it.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I SMELL PUSSY!

  • king blair

    BIGNAT Says:

    April 27th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
    smack me and i will get a girl to smack you back men don’t smack each other. at least straight men don’t smack each other hahahahahah
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    WELL SPOKEN MY BROTHER. But I digress, Billy went Wyatt Earp O-K Coral on that ass NOZ he hit u wit the takeover i hope u got some ether lol.

  • dameSTATii

    Yo Noz:

    as long as you’re one the few that knows the significance of:

    “… rubber car keys, and ID’s that’s fake..”

    You’re ok in my book. Blog on Blogga!

    And are you following the whole Horns and Halos series, or is Nicky not your flavor as much anymore?

  • Mr. P

    what is this, some pissing contest between bloggers? who gives a shit, issues adressing poverty the streets or hip hop require no debate. the unwritten laws in the street revolve around the criminal element and authorities on all levels, both systems are designed for the benefit of both sides not the people. by people i mean those who are truly going through struggles, and that go out and break their backs to put food in the mouths of their children. what, so the man has got you down and the only way for you to “survive” is to steal from your neighbor? stealing can be justified, but not if your stealing to support your drug habit. sell crack to your brothers and sisters, murder eachother because you don’t have any opportunities? thats what they want you to think, WE are the ones destroying ourselves, this is happening in OUR communities not in the suburbs. when are we going to stop pointing the finger at them, and expect them to make things right when they’re the ones responsible? its up to US, this fake talk on the net is a prime example why we don’t progress. instead of coming together we’re coming apart.

  • Malik C.

    >“I don’t imagine we would even feel comfortable listening to someone other than a British guy tell us a historical fact.”

    ^^^

    Unless your James Earl Jones, of course …>

    what about keith david? he was gully as goliath in “gargoyles.”

    ^^^^
    What about Morgan Freeman?

  • http://Stopshowingmyemail.com It was written

    I understand the reasoning behind this, but you should have kept jabbing. I still have no doubt you have more than one ace, but why waste one. I hate to be so cryptic, but you know what it is.

  • ONE50

    Bill X just ethered Mr. “TI is on the level as Big Daddy Kane in his ptime” Noz. Billy took that kid to school then rung his bell.

  • http://www.myspace.com/theanticorp SONNY CHEEBA

    well said

  • THHEE

    damm billy, u just killed Noz, Damm dats some good writing

  • http://officialhiphop.blogspot.com JOE CASTRO

    Damn Billy… you sound like you in the same mood you were in when that mugshot was taken.

    I can’t really comment on what’s going on between you and other bloggers (I tend to stay out of other people’s business like that… call me crazy), but I think the most important point here is that you rightfully described hip hop arising as a reaction to the conditions.

    The media keeps screaming that hip hop is xyz, but none of the conditions out of which hip hop was born have ever been addressed by the media and/or otherwise. I remember in the aftermath of the Columbine shootings, mainstream America was in an uproar over guns in schools; they acted surprised even. However, clearly most people were aware that in the rough inner city schools across the country, students had to pass through metal detectors every morning.

    So what, that ish was a joke? I passed through metal detectors because they DIDN’T know guns were being brought to OUR schools? Or did they just want us to walk in our schools quietly, as to not frighten the rest of America? (Kind of similar to how it’s ok to treat us like niggas, bitches, and hoes… but don’t dare speak those words.)

    And now here we are in 2007, and hip hop is under attack more than it was in the NWA/2 Live Crew days, and people want to still frame the discussion around the music… as if nigs around the country are just predestined to ‘glorify’ guns.

    And with all that being said, this stresses all the more urgency of lyricists and emcees stepping back into the game.

    All we have now are rappers and crews of rappers. I don’t care what dudes is throwing ‘d’s on; I don’t care ‘why you hot’, especially if I personally don’t think you all that hot.

    We need the real hip hop poets to step up and speak for us; not because we’re weak sheep that can’t speak for ourselves, but because they have the ears of the masses. Why not say something important? Why not let them know that to most of us (those of us who have moved outside of the ‘Greatest Rapper Alive’ discussion), this is more than music.

    I’m really getting tired of telling you good post Billy; just assume that’s how I feel when I go on these rants.

    __
    click on the byline to visit the Official Hip Hop Radio Blog

  • Alekhine’s Gun

    damn…i take a couple days off from the blogs and Billy done tore NOZ a new asshole (nullus)

    im feelin more out of the loop than whitney tryna make a comeback album. i know there’s always been some darts thrown between yall two, but what popped this off?

    that being said, very nice post. i couldn’t agree more about the roots of Hip-Hop, and why some people will never ever understand it no matter how much “rap” they listen to.

    you laced this one up cold billy

  • b

    this blogger is the realest and most introspective dude on here.

    please billy take some time to son bol next.

  • ONE50

    The only bad thing about this whole situation is now I and going to want to read what Noz writes. I pretty much told myself to not read his blags after he compared T.I. to Big Daddy Kane in his prime.

    I bet dude is spending his weekend at this very moment thinking of some slick sh*t to comeback with.

    But to me his only comeback will be this lame ass gem:

    noz Says:

    April 27th, 2007 at 6:05 pm

    “today is my day off. i might address this on monday when i’m getting paid for it.”

  • http://www.myspace.com/sinistahmoneybagz Sinistah aka Sin Piff

    oh shit!!!!!

    where i’m from we don’t really talk to cops because we don’t know their agenda, these same dudes who allegedly “protect and serve” the people are the same ones who randomly harass us just for enjoying fresh air on the same streets we reside, let alone being grown men with the right to go and do as our mental guides us. If i wanna go sit on a crate outside da same storefront that gave me the crate to sit on, then fuck yeah i’m sittin. If i wanna travel by foot late night for a short trek to clear my mind, i don;t need to hear no bullshit about i shouldn’t be outside at night, i’m fuckin grown.

    Sad thing is the police are so fuckin retarded nowadays, they pick safe areas to harass residents and stray away from the spots where it’s well known for crimes to happen. It’s murderers walkin the streets daily while its some dude doin a skid-bid just for 4getting to pay a parking ticket on time because some dickhead wanted to stop him for smokin a cig at an outdoors train station.

    most inner-city cops aint doin shit but lockin dudes up for a quota to buy that plasma-screen for wifey during holiday season. Or even worse, ridin around just to “vulture” on some hard-working dudes girlfriend or wifey because they rock the most infamous gang-flag of all, a badge!

    as far as da Noz situation…….

    lmaoo, no comment!

  • http://xxlmag.com Kane Corleone

    See the problem is we as a collective/or hip-hop heads have allowed others(white people )to enter into our culture,let the dissect it and give their oppinions on it then wanna stomp their asses out for doing so,They must know if they ‘ve been listening(ucanthearJimmy)that they’re on a pass or furlough if you will,and when we feel yo ass is outta pocket……….

  • meenstreek

    Word.

    As Dead Prez so eloquently put it, “Slap a white boy…”

  • TheUltimate

    This is the best post I’ve read on this site.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    The saga continues over at Posse On Blogway…

    “Thoreauly77,
    Trust me that I would rather not have come out the way I did on my drop but unfortunately the nature of the internets allows people that would normally show respect in close quarters find themselves emboldened by their respective anonymity.

    Despite the dramatic cliched rant of this dude I would never say that someone isn’t part of the culture because of the way he dresses or even more importantly the skin he is in. The Hip-Hop that I belong to has so many people from around the globe inside of it. Even rappers from the South, despite what this dude might say.

    I’m glad he got off his ass to create a drop for this site even though he doesn’t really consider writing for the site unless he’s getting paid to do it. Like all the rappers that have been shitting on the culture, this dude is coin-operated. What else will he do for money? Nullus in advance to the answer to that question.

    This chick with a stick calls himself a rap critic. He should really be that and stay south of my drops. I deal with Hip-Hop and not just rap. I deal with Pete Rock and Dilla instrumentals as well as the stylings of Mos Def and Andre 3000 as they push the boundaries of Hip-Hop further outward.

    My message to fans of Hip-Hop is to beware of these do called rap critics that extol the virtures of a parody of the culture. Fuck with some cats that really know and breath Hip-Hop… UnKut Dot Com and Oh Word Dot Com. Tell the rap doppelgangers to get their cultural credit up. “

  • benny blunts

    man get the fuck outta here..you blatantly came at him on some disrespectful shit and then got the nerve to say some shit like “smack me and i’ll smack you back”…he’s the one that should be sayin that..you the one that smacked him first…fix ya fuckin tampon and worry about your own blog…

  • Baby Boy

    Noz>Sungay

    Ur a straight Homo Thug Sungay!
    And to call ur blogs Mediocre would be a compliment.

  • Mista23

    Since comments were closed as of 12:29 on 4/29 on Noz’s post I decided to post my response to his Saturday blog here:
    Let me just say that I respect what both you and Billy bring to make this a great site. I’m sorry, but this post seems like its made to 1-up the black dude and show your the bigger head, when you have two very different experiences with the culture. I agree we both have a war to defend but the voice of someone who has came up from the same conditions as some of these rappers and has lived in a community with the same ethics voice resonates a little louder than someone who has great knowledge and fascination of the culture. You have an extensive knowledge of hip-hop, cool. I recognize its an evolving art form, cool. But the lack of substance from the new generation of music is sickening, tiring, disturbing and is damaging to the youth of today (I can say this first hand I’m a 90′s baby born 11/26/89). I mean I dig Weezy and all that and can tolerate Dip Set but i have to go to the underground or the Golden Era shit to get something that touches my soul. And at the end of the day I agree with Billy someone with “soul” should be the voice in documenting or culture, someone with a deeper understanding of the struggle of poverty and being a Black male (and minority in general) rather than someone who digs the art form and has some kind of fan boy obsession with it. Facts and dates are cool, but the larger and deeper understanding of the culture are just as or more valuable.

  • Mista23

    Since Noz’s page was closed for comment as of 12:34 on 04/29 heres my response to his Saturday post:
    Let me just say that I respect what both you and Billy bring to make this a great site. I’m sorry, but this post seems like its made to 1-up the black dude and show your the bigger head, when you have two very different experiences with the culture. I agree we both have a war to defend but the voice of someone who has came up from the same conditions as some of these rappers and has lived in a community with the same ethics voice resonates a little louder than someone who has great knowledge and fascination of the culture. You have an extensive knowledge of hip-hop, cool. I recognize its an evolving art form, cool. But the lack of substance from the new generation of music is sickening, tiring, disturbing and is damaging to the youth of today (I can say this first hand I’m a 90′s baby born 11/26/89). I mean I dig Weezy and all that and can tolerate Dip Set but i have to go to the underground or the Golden Era shit to get something that touches my soul. And at the end of the day I agree with Billy someone with “soul” should be the voice in documenting or culture, someone with a deeper understanding of the struggle of poverty and being a Black male (and minority in general) rather than someone who digs the art form and has some kind of fan boy obsession with it. Facts and dates are cool, but the larger and deeper understanding of the culture are just as or more valuable.

  • datninjaj

    Since as of 12:35 comments on Noz’s Saturday blog were closed here is my response:
    Let me just say that I respect what both you and Billy bring to make this a great site. I’m sorry, but this post seems like its made to 1-up the black dude and show your the bigger head, when you have two very different experiences with the culture. I agree we both have a war to defend but the voice of someone who has came up from the same conditions as some of these rappers and has lived in a community with the same ethics voice resonates a little louder than someone who has great knowledge and fascination of the culture. You have an extensive knowledge of hip-hop, cool. I recognize its an evolving art form, cool. But the lack of substance from the new generation of music is sickening, tiring, disturbing and is damaging to the youth of today (I can say this first hand I’m a 90′s baby born 11/26/89). I mean I dig Weezy and all that and can tolerate Dip Set but i have to go to the underground or the Golden Era shit to get something that touches my soul. And at the end of the day I agree with Billy someone with “soul” should be the voice in documenting or culture, someone with a deeper understanding of the struggle of poverty and being a Black male (and minority in general) rather than someone who digs the art form and has some kind of fan boy obsession with it. Facts and dates are cool, but the larger and deeper understanding of the culture are just as or more valuable.

  • Mista23

    Response to Noz’s blog since comments were closed on his Saturday post as of 12:29 on 4/29:
    Let me just say that I respect what both you and Billy bring to make this a great site. I’m sorry, but this post seems like its made to 1-up the black dude and show your the bigger head, when you have two very different experiences with the culture. I agree we both have a war to defend but the voice of someone who has came up from the same conditions as some of these rappers and has lived in a community with the same ethics voice resonates a little louder than someone who has great knowledge and fascination of the culture. You have an extensive knowledge of hip-hop, cool. I recognize its an evolving art form, cool. But the lack of substance from the new generation of music is sickening, tiring, disturbing and is damaging to the youth of today (I can say this first hand I’m a 90′s baby born 11/26/89). I mean I dig Weezy and all that and can tolerate Dip Set but i have to go to the underground or the Golden Era shit to get something that touches my soul. And at the end of the day I agree with Billy someone with “soul” should be the voice in documenting or culture, someone with a deeper understanding of the struggle of poverty and being a Black male (and minority in general) rather than someone who digs the art form and has some kind of fan boy obsession with it. Facts and dates are cool, but the larger and deeper understanding of the culture are just as or more valuable.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mista23 Mista23

    Let me just say that I respect what both you and Billy bring to make this a great site. I’m sorry, but this post seems like its made to 1-up the black dude and show your the bigger head, when you have two very different experiences with the culture. I agree we both have a war to defend but the voice of someone who has came up from the same conditions as some of these rappers and has lived in a community with the same ethics voice resonates a little louder than someone who has great knowledge and fascination of the culture. You have an extensive knowledge of hip-hop, cool. I recognize its an evolving art form, cool. But the lack of substance from the new generation of music is sickening, tiring, disturbing and is damaging to the youth of today (I can say this first hand I’m a 90′s baby born 11/26/89). I mean I dig Weezy and all that and can tolerate Dip Set but i have to go to the underground or the Golden Era shit to get something that touches my soul. And at the end of the day I agree with Billy someone with “soul” should be the voice in documenting or culture, someone with a deeper understanding of the struggle of poverty and being a Black male (and minority in general) rather than someone who digs the art form and has some kind of fan boy obsession with it. Facts and dates are cool, but the larger and deeper understanding of the culture are just as or more valuable.

  • http://www.soundclick.com/shoduction sam

    “because I know at the end of the day it won’t be myself that will be sought out by supremacy to define the legacy of Hip-Hop. It will be someone with the Euro voice.”

    sad but true.

  • Dr Flav

    There has always been various versions of history and the individuals with the most power story will be propandized the most, however it is important for us to carry on tradition and that way the truth lives on. Chuck D speaks on this in an interview on ballerstatus.com, in order to discern the truth, you must also be aware of the lies.

  • eauhellzgnaw

    I’m a fan of both of bloggers. I don’t know that there is any substance to this beef: it seems to be just a difference in taste that spiraled out of control.

    I happen to think you sometimes goes too far when criticizing certain Southern rap and Noz goes too far when defending it, but it’s all just style and entertainment and nothing to get bent out of shape about.

    I do want to say though, that I think you’re way off when you liken Noz to Breihan: Noz actually knows about rap’s past and treats it respectfully (as opposed to Breihan’s lame google-rific attempts at history); Noz has a good grasp on what makes a quality rap vocalist (as opposed to Breihan, who apparently thinks that Dr Dre is as bad as Timbaland on the mic); Noz doesn’t try to make sweeping claims without any background knowledge (greatest who?); and Noz analyzes lyrics carefully (as opposed to Breihan, who couldn’t see that Devin’s “Cutcha Up” is about weed, not pedophilia).

    Billy, to paint Noz with the Breihan brush is as wrong as the XXL commenters who continue to liken you to Bol. Noz deserves better than that.

  • Were Read 2 Def

    This is exactly y I listen 2 NaS & NOT NoZ. This post just made my day.

  • ChiDude

    “I watch shows on television like National Geographic or Nature and they always have this Euro voice describing the scene within an environment that the Euro voice is not directly I never hear an African sounding voice describing the religious culture of Israel or the lifestyles of Holland. This is because supremacy discounts these other voices and our mental programming has become so attuned to this I don’t imagine we would even feel comfortable listening to someone other than a British guy tell us a historical fact.”

    Dude… thats a smart person (i.e. you) right there. Hard to believe u r American. lol

  • stupid

    wait a minute. so you’re saying that Billy Sunday is Dallas Penn?

  • dameSTATii

    either I’m tripping ,or Noz did a 4/29 (sunday, yesterday) post that: a) was suspended from further comments; and b) is now M.I.A.

    Fishy…