Saturday Night Hip-Hop Summit

“I got this Japanese girl, man. Lee, man, takes good care of me. Yo, she’s so def, man. Wipes my butt!” – Russell Simmons

The other day, Russell Simmons and a buncha other TIs got together to have an emergency meeting about the future of hip-hop in light of the Don Imus incident and what have you. There was supposed to be a press conference immediately following the meeting, but supposedly they couldn’t have one because the meeting ended up going over its allotted time period.

Instead, they came up with a joint statement that was issued to the media via press release a day later or whatever. It’s posted somewhere on this site, if you’ve yet to read it. Having read it myself, I can’t help but wonder if the real reason they cancelled the press conference is because none of them could stand up there and read from this thing with a straight face.

The gist of it is that the major labels plan to stamp out misogyny in hip-hop by voluntarily bleeping out the words, bitch, nigger, and ho from rap records. Which is actually kinda brilliant, in a Nigel Tufnel sort of way, when you think about it. If the labels actually go through with this, that whole talking point of the b-word, the h-word, and the n-word being all over the radio, where kids might hear it, is off the table.

Russell Simmons’ intellectual ability clearly goes to 11.

I’m not in favor of censorship in any form, but that seems reasonable enough to me. It could even work out in my favor, on the outside chance that I’m ever in a car with a bitch, in which case the last thing I’d need to hear on the radio is Ludacris’ “She’s a Ho” or whatever. Plus, it’s not like I spend a whole lot of time listening to the radio these days anyway.

But you have to wonder if the angry feminazi types who seek to exert their influence on hip-hop through any means other than producing any actual hip-hop records themselves are going to go for this. After all, this plan wouldn’t get rid of misogyny in hip-hop so much as it would make misogynistic rap records that much more palatable. Which would almost be a step backwards.

Still, it’d be getting rid of the b-word, the h-word, and the n-word, which is the real issue, right? If you can play the Rolling Stones’ “Under My Thumb” (the ne plus ultra of misogynistic pop music) on the radio, I don’t see the difference in playing some Ludacris record with half the words bleeped out. No, the real issue at this point would be the images in the videos.

Where as bleeping a few words from rap songs played on the radio would hardly ruin the enjoyment of said songs, getting rid of the half-naked women in rap videos would almost certainly ruin any number of said videos. Plus, it wouldn’t be fair. I don’t recall there being any special episodes of Oprah back when the rock groups like Whitesnake had women in heat writhing on the hoods of cars as if they were hood ornaments.

If you notice, it’s in the way women are presented in videos that misogyny in hip-hop tends to take on a race element – the idea being that showing half-naked black women in rap videos serves to perpetuate harmful stereotypes about black women going back to the days of slavery. If that’s the case, and I’m not saying it isn’t, wouldn’t the obvious solution be to ban black women from rap videos?

Of course the irony is that the portrayal of black women in rap videos has probably done a lot more for their image than they’d like to admit. If anything, the portrayal of black women in rap videos is a gross misrepresentation in the sense that most of them don’t look anything like that. But, hey, if they don’t want to be objectified in rap videos anymore, then fine. Have it your way.

I’d be lying if I said that rap videos with nothing but white chicks in them would hurt my feelings too bad.

  • Bang

    I don’t remember the last time those words weren’t already censored on a rap song played on the radio. Ever

  • Bang

    so basically, I’m okay with booty clap videos on BET, but not letting kids hear the words “ho” “bitch” or “cunt”

  • Tha Real

    50 cent is da illest

  • sATaLyte

    Of course the irony is that the portrayal of black women in rap videos has probably done a lot more for their image than they’d like to admit.
    ^^
    Church.

  • Bang

    strippers are the new “go to” job for sluts. as men, we must exploit that thru rap videos

    Amen

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    Im all for getting rid of the soft porn in music videos…it will force the directors to be more creative…but if it is a song talking about big butt women then sure they should be in there…however the video shouldn’t be played before 10 PM…the videos is where the females pick up on the prostitute-like behavior…call bitches bitches and hoes hoes is not the problem here…

  • Crossbow

    I never thought about that shit til you said it, bol. Instead of these broads and part-time preachers bitchin’ about the music and callin’ it trash, why not drop your own album. Show us how it’s done. I would be 1st in line to see Big Perm drop a hot 16 over a Just Blaze beat.

  • Fin

    I was wondering when you’d chime in on the issue. Classic.

    “I’d be lying if I said that rap videos with nothing but white chicks in them would hurt my feelings too bad.”

  • thoreauly77

    i think my brain just exploded. thanks bol!

  • Pancho

    F*ck censorhip…I’m moving to Japan!

  • http://www.myspace.com/16kings outya’self

    MAN F DAT, F RUSSEL! , F THE TALL ISRAELI’S AND F OPRAH , WHITE ASS TOO! RUSSEL QUICK TO WANNA CENSOR SOME SHIT BUT HE DON’T DO NUTTIN ABOUT THE QUALITY OF MUSIC HIS LABEL PUTS OUT, NOT SINCE PUBLIC ENEMY HAS DEFJAM OPFFERD THE BLACK COMMUNITY ANY ENLIGHTINING MUSIC THAT UPLIFTS OUR YOUNG BROTHERS AND SISTERS.ARTIST SUCH AS YOUNG JEEZY WHO REPRESENT DEFJAM NOW ARE PUMPING THIS TRAP OR DIE POISON INTO THE EARS OF OUR YOUTH AND ALL THIS SELL OUT UNCLE TOM COWARD ASS YOGA DOIN NIGGER ( YEAH MOFO E-R) WANTS TO DO IS BLEEP OUT A FEW CURSE WORDS!? MAN PLEASE! AND AS FAR THE WHITE LADY WIT’ BLACK FEATURES SHE JUST DOIN WHAT SHE USUALLY DO, CATER TO HONKEYS! OPRAH WILL SAY ANYTHING THAT SHE BELIEVES WHITE AMERICA WILL AGREE WIT’ SO TWO FUCK YOU’S TO THAT SELL OUT BITCH! MUTHA FUCKA’S GOTTA GET REAL ABOUT SHIT AIN’T NOBODY ABOUT TO STOP SAYIN BITCH, HO! OR NIGGA NO TIME SOON SO DO WHAT THE NAME SAYS!

  • John Cochran

    Shit, half naked black chicks in videos is good for the community. Think about it. Tv is the way the rest of the country sees the hood. If there’s bomb ass big booty chicks dancing in the flicks white kids gonna think all black chicks look like that, therfore will start wanting some black cat. That means some of these bitches will actually get out the hood and stop scheming on the brothas with real jobs around the way.

  • Ten

    So basically, getting rid of the words is a superficial solution. People are going to continue to do scandalous behavior regardless, and whatever words in that takes place for these censored words are going to mean more or less the same thing.
    Why the media is making a big deal about what words people use sort of ridiculous. Words are just bullshit anyways, especially in the times we are living in where world leaders are lying constantly and using words as a tactic to justify doing horrible things. Actions speak louder always, yet people still get caught up in the specific words.

  • Yung Ether

    How can you blame hip hop for these vide-ho’s being negatively portrayed? It’s not like rappers are goin door to door asking them to come half butt ass nekked to their videos. Besides, ho’s call bitches ho’s and call ho’s bitches more than any guy could.

  • The Constitution

    You think it’s just about Imus/hip hop/censorship in music! This is just the tip of the iceberg. If we are not careful and smart, freedom of speech is soon to be under attack. The bigger issue is finding a healthy compromise with out giving up our ability to communicate to eachother.

  • Rob

    “Of course the irony is that the portrayal of black women in rap videos has probably done a lot more for their image than they’d like to admit”

    Very true.

    “I’d be lying if I said that rap videos with nothing but white chicks in them would hurt my feelings too bad.”

    The Ironic thing is that rappers had white ho’s on videos, black women would still bitch about how black men don’t think like them and don’t think they are attractive.

  • Tyler

    Bang Says:

    April 25th, 2007 at 2:58 pm
    I don’t remember the last time those words weren’t already censored on a rap song played on the radio. Ever

    Dats what I am sayin’. . I don’t know what type of radio stations ‘dat ya’ll are listening 2.
    And fuck Russell that fuckin’ rich snitch. If they didn’t do this shit 2 Rock music then they should be doin’ it 2 Rap music. Period. And as a black person I am offended cause them words or none of ‘dat shit don’t make people do nothing. People make their own choices in life and who don’t like a slutty hoe every now and then. Peace 2 ya’ big Bol.
    Lose your mind at:
    http://www.myspace.com/marcusorealiusmusic
    http://www.myspace.com/marcmaysrockandrollthug

  • 4 ya momma

    this is hyprocity if these bitches wanna stop being treaded like hoes than maybe they should act like ladies and i think fat asses is what is so offensive to these folk so maybe nelly them need to start doing casting calls in the oc god bless america

  • BIGNAT

    rob proves a perfect point here

    “The Ironic thing is that rappers had white ho’s on videos, black women would still bitch about how black men don’t think like them and don’t think they are attractive.”

    with leads me to say you can’t please women they still going bitch about something. here is a perfect exmaple you could give women control over everything in the world. know whats would happen they would compalin about how much they work. Telling you how hard it is to run this world. now on the flip if a guy would say that to a women she would hit him with oh and you think child birth is easy. see when it comes to issues with women men will NEVER WIN NEVERRRRRRRR EVERRRRRRRRRRR

  • beeyo

    Did Russel really say that “wipes my butt” shit bout Kimora?

  • Pablo

    “It could even work out in my favor, on the outside chance that I’m ever in a car with a bitch”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

  • DANJA29

    Russell just contradicted everything he’s ever stood for. The very thing that helped him become as successful as he’s become is the exact opposite of what he’s doing now. Fukkin’ Def Jam was BUILT on bucking the system, now he’s taking part in co-signing some shit he should know is not gonna stop at takin’ “nigga” and “bitch” out of records. Today it’s that, next thing you know, they’ll be makin’ guidelines on the subject matter. Russell might think he’s doin’ the right thing, but this is a really bad call.

    And Bol… you were rejected somethin’ kinda bad by black girls in your day, weren’t you?

  • thecollinb

    Once again nobody got the Spinal Tap reference?….kudos Bol.

  • Rizzop

    Good post….true as hell. but im beginning to see slavery/racism in much different form. Does anyone notice how all of a sudden every legit form of monetary gain the black man has, has been fucked with by white america? From forcing NBA players to wear suits, to every cop in cincinatti targeting NFL players to pull over (yes they are targeted, they know who they are pulling over)to our only real form of expression being ridiculed at every turn(eventhough we are not the originators of all the bullshit) They have even made it an issue of sex, when men arent the ones shaking their asses in videos, but somehow women are painted as victims to their own actions? Even down to the fact oprah didnt have one person on her panel that actually is in charge of album distribution (No jimmy iovine getting his ass reemed, not one person from viacom that actually allows these videos to be shown) The bottom line i, we are getting fucked as minorites and we gotta stand up tp this bullshit. Hell gas is goddamn 3 buck a gallon….

  • Giangio

    Hell… maybe videos will actually start to be creative again.

  • Marlon

    Why the fuck does it make my default name Marlon, and my e-mail Marlon@Gidluck.ca? :S

  • stoneyisland

    Bol this is the second striaght blog where u have hit it on the head! if Black women were banned from any and all videos that didnt deal with something positive and didnt require the removal of their clothes, we would be better off. Lets flip it a bit lets make it mandatory for white women to be exploited in rap videos and watch the government shut MTV the fuck down.

  • EReal

    But you have to wonder if the angry feminazi types who seek to exert their influence on hip-hop through any means other than producing any actual hip-hop records themselves are going to go for this.
    ^^^^^
    LMFAO.

    Man didnt Russell Simmons SELL Def Jam?? In which case who gives a FUCK about what his faggot lisping walkin like he got assfucked self says??

    Man Im sick of these same old arguments.
    The whole situation is so ridiculous that its just annoying at this point.

    One of your best drops in a minute Jabbah.
    Who names their black kid Byron anyway? You were doomed from the start, no neck.

    1 hunned.

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >Who names their black kid Byron anyway?

    I’m a junior, and my grandmother’s been dead for a long time.

    Maybe my family’s just more into literature than most black people.

  • smog

    good lookin bol, that was well writtin

  • Fernando

    awwwwwww,

    Poor NBA players. Being denegrated into wearing $15,000 duits. I cant believe that the NBA would make them do that. We should really protest that kind of cruelty.

    And last time I checked, gas was cheaper in the hood. So I dont want to hear crying about $3 gas.

  • http://www.msn.com King Ben

    Why do people think hiphop is just a black culture?

  • Rizzop

    @Fernando
    See how sad it is when niggas get complacent with being fucked…….Some folk use their brains for all the wrong shit. Its the purpose thats involved in the fact the this supposedly being a country built on freedom of speech and expression, that someone can TELL you what you wear and say goes against those very rights, hence is why we live and a so called “democracy”……And yes once gas gets to be 10 bucks a gallon and you’re broke, your dumb ass will say “why didnt we speak up when we had the chance?” Some niggas will fall for anything.

  • Rizzop

    And hip hop is not just a black culture, but it was created by blacks, but blacks are not the ones making the most profit from it.

  • kt

    I aint mad at Ophra I aint mad at russel he just the messenger his name and image hold wait we gotta stop blaming folks for our fuck up yeah russel made more money in the game when it was more positive you see he sold his shares when shit started getting real gangsta and too ghetto black folks need to stop fucking with the devil stop selling our souls for the fast buck we still idol worship gold and platnum jesus charms thanking god at the grammys and misleading souls wake up my people get that mark of the beast of your hands

  • ICE MIC “800″

    BOL what do you smoke before you come up with this stuff? Genius.

  • EReal

    Bol Says:

    April 26th, 2007 at 10:58 am
    >Who names their black kid Byron anyway?

    I’m a junior, and my grandmother’s been dead for a long time
    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Maybe thats where all your angst against black women comes from??

  • http://Artrookies-lab01.tripod.com ArtRookie

    I must admit i’m not really sure about Oprah’s agenda in this issue. I have become more and more supicious of Oprah over the years and It comes from her approach. While Oprah was quick to rag on the Black male delegates from the Rap community, I did notice that the owners of Island records sony BMG were’nt also in attendance I think Oprah has a issue with Black Men, Examine the facts.
    How ever she does raise a good point how can we as Black people expect the respect from others if we can’t respect ourselves enough to know when we are being turned into a joke. As many rap stars try there best to out coon each other, as said on the show 4 out of 5 CD’s are sold to caucasians. which depending on if they know any real Black people their only perspective is the lampooning some of raps finest are delivering in regular doses.
    If this is the case the major representation it isn’t very good.
    Another thing the Oprah show highlighted is the huge polar divide between generations within the Black Community.
    with the civil rights fraternity and the Rap generation not really able to find a middle ground. some how we need to come together again that divide troubles me.

    So we take those words out of the records do we fix the problem? sadly no you want fix the problem, get rid of the ghetto’s If life isn’t negative you have nothing negative to say. But if Bush’s handling of the Hurricane Katrina disaster is anything to go by the ghetto’s aren’t going anywhere fast so buckle up. So we have to fix our condition to give our kids a better perspective. I don’t know about you but I don’t want my Daughter thinking it’s cool to be called a HO, I’ll take someone out for that $h!t. Rakim, KRS one, Houdini, LLcoolJ never had to call anyone a B!tch or H0 back in the day in order to get a deal.
    Unfortunately we are looking at removing these words like it’s a poison to hiphop. It just means Mc’s can’t hide behind lazy, dumba$$ lyrics and get back to the art. before you say this dude ain’t real I’m old enough to have witnessed the major changes in Hiphop and Rap and have followed both genre’s enough to understand the difference( and trust me there is one).
    Maybe next time rather than the usual lyching that Oprah seems to prefer; she should try to engage minds and truly examine the Artform rather than look at rap and mistake it for hiphop. And maybe get more than one Hiphop artist to actually attend. maybe also when trying show her hip hop credentials she should actually choose a Hiphop record rather than “In the club” by one of the biggest examples lampooning 50 Cent.

    Just a thought