Sickamore vs The Oreo Sports Writer Part 2

It’s a slow day and Hip Hop is boring me to death right now. I’m still working on the “Jeezy = BIG, TI = Jay, Wayne = Nas” instant classic blog, so I dug in the crates and pulled up Part 2 to this fiasco. For Part 1, click on this paragraph.

CLICK HERE TO READ PART 1 Sickamore  wrote:

You’re confused. But I put both your original article and reply to my e-mail on XXLMag.com anyway. I’ll let the people decide at this point. In my opinion you get paid to be the black representative on ESPN’s site and it isn’t something you should take lightly. Especially exploiting Darrent Williams death with no facts so you can say “look how bad my people are, guys”. You have no solutions in your article, therefore you’re part of the problem. 

Taking American gangster off of TV isn’t going to do anything. You should give your people more credit then to say every black death is because of a hip-hop song or a movie. We’re are really not that dumb. But at the end of the day, you have a quota to fill and why not make more money being the yessa boss in the ESPN.com house? I should thank god for people like you. If there weren’t any Jemele Hill’s, there wouldn’t be any Malcolm X’s. It’s a business and I shouldn’t knock a college educated sister doing her thing.

Good luck Oreo

Sickamore

 On 1/8/07, J Hill jemeleespn@gmail.com> wrote:

I take my role as a black columnist very seriously. In fact, I take it so seriously that I’m more than willing to bear lame name-calling from you — notice, I haven’t called you anything (yet) – if it means speaking the truth. I’d rather tell black folks what they need to know, rather than what they want to hear.
We’re told BET is our network and how proud we should be of them, but rarely do we challenge their programming. I know they’re owned by Viacom, but from what I understand, the head of programming is black. So, what’s their excuse? We’re told to buy music and go to certain movies so we can “support” black people. But again, we never question the product they’re putting out. If I’m a sellout ’cause I hate movies like Soul Plane, so be it. Now, I’m not saying watching Scarface makes you want to shoot people, but certainly the avalanche of those types of movies/music/etc., in our community fosters already disenfranchised attitudes, leading to destruction. That’s a dangerous mix when statistics show that violence has destroyed our community more than any other. If you can’t see that, you just can’t.
I understand your violent reaction because the one thing that black people don’t want to face is that some of these things we love so much — for some reason, Flava Flav’s show comes to mind — is nothing but modern-day cooning that holds us back as a people. Harsh, but true.
I guess I’m supposed to appreciate that you put my return e-mail on the XXL site. I hope it fosters discussion. But you probably need the publicity more than I do.
  • Were Read 2 Def

    I know somebodys worried to death about being first.

  • FIRST

    FIRSTTTTTTTTUH

  • FIRST

    FIRSTTT BIOTCH

  • http://FRISCOBABISCO.COM FRISCO BABISCO

    TELL HIM TO STOP TALKING I SWEAR..

  • Australian

    haha sickamore she kinda aired you out brah.

  • that guy

    sickamore is a fag…an a&r that doesnt a&r…i wish i could get a check 4 doing nothing

  • Omar

    She’s won both rounds so far, you gotta go for the KO to win at this point.

  • CONTENT

    Now you’ve posted two losses. Congratulations.

  • k-rizzy

    Yea she got you sick compared to her you sound like an ignorant hip hopper who kinda sticks to the script without challenging the script. Stay in your lane brother There’s A reason why you occasionally write blogs for XXL and she writes for ESPN. Knowledge is Power !

  • Steve-o

    I could put up a better fight than that.

  • A&RsAreTrulyCluless

    Sickamore is a child who needs to go to school an get educated instead of playing ‘music mogul’ so publicly that we all can see how unaccomplished he is at it. You got to remember Sick, you are a field hand in the ‘Minstrel Show’ called the Rap Industry (not Hip-hop, you left that a long time ago) and there by naturally you are part of the problem and not any of the solution – You Got Owned by Ms. Hill little boy so sit Down!

  • EReal

    I feel sorry for your mother.

  • Aye

    How about you work on this blog…

    You = Jay,

    and

    J Hill= Nas,

    ETHERED!

  • johnnycakes

    you are one lazy mofo. how much do u get paid for 10 posts a year

  • http://www.sungmusic.blogspot.com short sleeves

    Both of her responses were right man. You can’t say she’s not articulate. She’s definitely on point about BET and Scarface and how the youth interpret images and lifestyles of thuggery. There’s too much glorification without any condemnation of crime and violence.

    I don’t think she’s wrong. Chuck D and Wise Intelliginet have been saying this kind of shit for years man. Blacks and Whites exploit Blacks.

    You lost 2 Sickamore.

    Why is it that her kind of criticism garners such reactionary responses? I mean, Bol labelled her a bitch in the original comments section. K-Rizzy is right, that’s why you folks are reppin’ ignorant Hip Hoppers while she’s getting Disney money. Word.

  • http://www.sungmusic.blogspot.com short sleeves

    Damn! She FULLY put you on blast kid!!

    “But you probably need the publicity more than I do”.

    So much losers…

  • John Brown

    DAMN!!! I think you took a bite that you couldnt eat Sick. But I notice something between the lines of those e-mails. I think that Sick digs Jemele. You two got a love/hate relationship there. All that hate will turn into love.

  • sicksmybrotha

    keep comming sick..cant run from the situation go towards it..this is practice she can only broaden ur mind …besides u just a youngsta…like “j” say she in a loose loose..even when she when ultimately she loose…U’ll be president of def jam before espn pays her to do anything else

  • k-rizzy

    THANKS SHORT SLEEVES KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT

  • jlee

    short sleeves wrote:
    “You can’t say she’s not articulate.”

    i think you meant to say “she speaks so well”

  • TYSON DUDE

    Sick…Most people look @ Hip-Hop for what it has become – a little bit of the WWF, a little bit of the porn bizness, and a whole lot of coon’n. You industry types may feel important inside your bubbles, but real people don’t respect ‘industry folks’ because they are pretty much a reflection of the garbage they create/sell…ESPN/Sports=can’t live without, XXL/Rap Music=not so much!

  • k-rizzy

    THANKS SHORT SLEEVES KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT !

  • hmmm

    you said

    “we’re are”

  • crimson

    Sick, you’re getting your ass kicked here. If you wanted to get into these types of debates for real, you should have spent more than a semester in college. And it ain’t cool to call someone an oreo.

  • j

    Did anybody else find it hilarious that this was a sentence written by sickamore.——->”We’re are really not that dumb.” LMAO @ we’re are. Totally fucked that one up there sick… suprised this person even bothered arguing with you. You bodied your own damn self.

  • daesonesb

    ehho, seriously i think that this lady has to recognize that it is not hip hop culture, but a fucked up socio economic situation that causes so much black on black violence. Thats my two cents.

    Violence in hip hop and gangster fetishizing is simply a product of the aforementioned problems.

  • Guh?

    Well, she didn’t really “air him out,” if she mentioned something about American Gangster being a negative influence. Because if she did, has she ever watched the show? Nelson George and crew make sure that all of the stories that are being told aren’t romanticized or sensationalized.

    And Sic has a point, you can’t just put the onus on hip-hop and movies like Scarface. We can say that art imitates life, but there hasn’t been any substantial data to say that life imitates art. Also, it seemed that she glossed over his email just to go on a cliched diatribe about BET and “cooning.” Yes, we know about BET being a horrible channel, but you have to give black folks (and humans in general) for having a little more sense than that. Shit, I grew up on Scarface, the Geto Boys, South Central Cartel, Mc Eiht, as well as other gangsta rappers, and I knew better than to emulate them. I’d argue some of that shit was worse than what the kids contend with now.

    On the flip side, though…Sic, like every other person dealing in the nusiness of hip-hop, gets pretty damn defensive and reactionary whenever hip-hop is brought up in a negative light. We really need to stop that mess, there’s no need for the name-calling, and we’re not a monolithic race of people. So why should she represent the whole race on that site? Besides, there’s Scoop Jackson and other black writers on that site, she isn’t alone.

  • lone1

    Uhhhh…she got him coach.

  • MC

    why is Sick continuing to post about this? is he proud of getting made to look like a retard?

  • eauhellzgnaw

    This is embarrassing. Do you honestly think that you did a good job of arguing your point?

    Jemele Hill doesn’t seem to be exceptionally brilliant, but you are clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Put down the lip gloss and pick up a book.

  • b-ease

    daesonesb Says:

    March 21st, 2007 at 12:23 pm
    ehho, seriously i think that this lady has to recognize that it is not hip hop culture, but a fucked up socio economic situation that causes so much black on black violence. Thats my two cents.

    Violence in hip hop and gangster fetishizing is simply a product of the aforementioned problems.

    ^^^^^^^
    I tend to agree.

    But Sick really got outclassed here.

  • Dr Flav

    I just want to say, anybody who thinks a television show, song or movie can hold back an entire race, needs to stay in the back anyway. The black race I know has survived much worse.

  • these posts are racist

    Sickamore
    -You are out of order. You call her all types of names and degrade her, which is not right. Why don’t you challenge her ideas instead of her character? It’s much easier to attack a person and call them a sell out, etc. then it is to discuss/debate and challenge her ideas, but that’s what seperates suckas from Great people.

  • DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    both of you guys are right…yall’s (yes yall’s) debate is the core problem…WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER…we are conditioned to compete with each other…while the other guys (whites) help each other out…divide and conquer…

  • http://www.myspace.com/artilari NoMamesBuey

    Damn Bitchamore, you’re one of the most vicious self-etherers on the internet.

    Someone put Sickamore on suicide watch. He repetedly kills himself figuratively, he might do it literally.

  • http://www.myspace.com/artilari NoMamesBuey

    Gnaw said “This is embarrassing. Do you honestly think that you did a good job of arguing your point?

    Jemele Hill doesn’t seem to be exceptionally brilliant, but you are clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Put down the lip gloss and pick up a book.”

    Damn Gnaw, for once I gotta cosign one of your rants. Nice work

  • Jerz!

    Damn, she got dude twice, I’m looking her up.

  • Reed

    Do you even realize that you got sonned… twice?!!
    Sick, seriously… stop jumping up to get beat down, you looking really stupid right now. When you grow up you’ll see her point.

  • FLIP

    This is the equivalent of me uploading a video to Youtube where I get beat by a girl in one-on-one, then linking it talking bout “check out my crossover yall.” Nigga please!

  • yaboy

    sick lost

  • Ashim

    I tend to agree with everything Mrs. Hill posted (in response to you, not in the article). We do need to take a closer look at our culture and what it compasses, the ideals and values it promotes, and the products we are being spoon fed and asked to accept. Someone has to say what no one wants to hear.

  • bding7

    you got your ass kicked, and she does not even write that well. “We’re are really not that dumb”? goodness, proofread your shit, at least be coherent. “I should thank god for people like you. If there weren’t any Jemele Hill’s, there wouldn’t be any Malcolm X’s” i won’t even touch that, b/c it simply is not true, nor is it relevant. basically, you’re completely out of your league and should stick to peddling music that does not sell. and stop with the oreo crap, be a goddamn adult. what does that word even mean? and don’t say “real black people would know” b/c that means every black person’s the same, which is not true. you are a jackass, sir.

  • king blair

    i saw shorty on espn and i’d hit it, but she is right niggas be fucking up and you right cuz niggas should be selling out the fuck ups for a quick dollar.black women gotta have babies that eat sleep and shit sports so we can get free college and be doctor’s and lawyers cuz they sure aint letting in most of us offa grades alone sad but true

  • Young cane

    damn homie….you really nee to take the L and move on. Isnt there a mixtape you should work on or something?
    shortie did you dirty…..it hurts to get murderd with intelegence. But I guess it taked a big man (no homo) to show the world thet he got Amy fishered.

  • Counter

    there are more racists (white supremacists) in this comments section than most Black people would realise. Black people are easily manipulated. Sickamore looks like he’s losing but he’s actually in the right.

  • these posts are racist

    Counter/Sickamore-

    I agree with you on a level…that when people point to problems in the black community, etc. and blame the “culture” that is racist. I don’t see her doing that though. I see her as criticizing networks, etc. who exploit problems in the black community (which are caused by racism, poverty, etc.) and who do nothing to help the community.

    Challenge her ideas, but don’t attack her personally. I actually have some critiques to her position and believe some of what she says is wrong and gives racists ammo to attack people of color…but attacking her as a person, isn’t fair.

  • JS

    You got sunned. And everyone knows you get sunned in the industry too.

  • Ike

    You should be embarrassed. I hate this idea that all Black people should think the same or parrot the same tired lines. The fact that you couldn’t argue without calling her an Oreo is ridiculous. No wonder Hip-Hop is getting more ignorant. If you truly represent the so-called ‘critics’ who serve as guardians of the artform, then we as Black ppl are truly lost.

  • Breez-a-leo

    sickamore… dude gave you the bizness… now while your jackin off at the office bored, signing wack midwest groups, or niggaz like “skyballa”… get ya ear to the block young nigga…

    http://get-a-bar.blogspot.com/2007/03/dl-young-hootie-culmination-mixtape.html

  • J.R.O.

    Oh yeah, I remember this. Good shit.

  • derfla the hus’la

    hahahaha now take another 3 months off lol

  • Combat Jack

    wtf? You are really trying to kill what little credibility you have on the internets!!! Son, this is not your game. That’s the problem with SOME of you “’80′s babies”, “You lil’ niggas ain’t deep, you dumb!”

  • EReal

    LOL @ Derf

  • http://thesauce.com The sauce

    Another sick post bites the dust…

    I hope you are better at your day Job….

  • The sauce

    Another sick post bites the dust

    Do not quit your day job

  • Quantum

    First off name calling does nothing but damage the argument. Secondly, I believe nothing can be accomplished without presenting the probelm which is what she did. Now we can come up with solutions. Like WTF was BET doing showing Soul Plane?

  • http://haha asdf

    you got ethered, shitamore! haha

  • Tego

    Honestly Sick. You lose on this one. You lost in the first round. I don’t think you get what she’s saying at all.

  • istayreppinVA

    i can’t even front, after tha first time she fried cha, i woulda left her next response in MY inbox…

    daaaat’s tough

  • Guh?

    What happened to my post?

  • Ciz

    I think most of the people who comment here just dislike Sick.. because on his myspace blog most people agreed with him. Ok maybe the personal comments were a little off base but he is right. We can not blame the destruction of our community on television and music. How about we hold parents accountable for the morals they instill or do not instill in their children? How about we blame the community that doesn`t raise children the way we were raised years ago. My neighbors could whoop my ass if they saw me cutting up. Nowadays a parent can be a terrible parent but if a teacher yells at the bad ass child then the parent is ready to fight the teacher. It is way too easy to blame the media. Plus shorty was way off base on the Darrent Williams thing. She`s cooning as much as BET is. And yea BET is cooning.

  • render

    “But you probably need the publicity more than I do”

    lol ethered

  • the~ghost~of~hip~hop~past

    damn son…she straight ripped you……..thats wut it is………

  • TYSON DUDE

    #
    derfla the hus’la Says:

    March 22nd, 2007 at 5:29 am

    hahahaha now take another 3 months off lol
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    LOL, OWNED!

  • M.O.

    Young cane Says:

    March 21st, 2007 at 4:49 pm
    But I guess it taked a big man (no homo) to show the world thet he got Amy fishered.

    no…he thinks he won. this niggas a dumb ass, he gives 80s babies a bad name

  • MIGHTY INFAMOUS

    SICKAMORE AINT SHIT

    HOLLA AT YA BOY
    BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRONX

  • http://www.myspace.com jawz on myspace

    she got you buddy…she’s on point too…everything she’s saying is true just about

    white people dont even have to fuck over us anymore, we do it to ourselves the only way we can save ourselves is by going to http://www.myspace.com/jawzbeatz

  • http://www.myspace.com/esso ESSO

    Sicko, your ma dude..but that shit u wrote is a mess! real talk! I think u need to stop hating on peoples AND GET ME A GOD DAMN DEAL..I know I cant rap, but you got Tru Life a deal..right? Come on A&R BITCH!

  • ATG

    Truth be told Sickamore is what 21, 22 years old. HE is very young and unaware, which is so evident in his postings. He is extrememly ignorant.

  • big lou

    Damn! Sickamore’s new signee Wynter Gordon outs this shady niggas moves: http://www.allhiphop.com/alternatives/?ID=493

  • Cuban FUCKING Link

    no im on sicks side.Just cuz this bitch is a bitch.I hate people that get offended by things like Soul Plane, when its a COMEDY and is supposed to be taken lightly.American Gangster is good cuz it educates people.But, aside from 106 & Park (just cuz my girl Rocsi is on it) and the reruns of The Jamie Fow Show, The Wayan Bros, and The Wire, BET is whack and for fucking fags.The worst show is the Black Carpet, cuz I hate all their little host people

  • Cuban FUCKING Link

    Breez-a-leo Says:

    March 21st, 2007 at 10:54 pm
    sickamore… dude gave you the bizness… now while your jackin off at the office bored, signing wack midwest groups, or niggaz like “skyballa”… get ya ear to the block young nigga…

    ^fuck u son skyballa rocks.I found out about the kid before ANYONE else did so dont even front, i saw him on myspace.We CAnt hide the money here, we need a bigga room!!!

  • A-Town

    SkyBalla is GAY! Won’t sell in da south!

  • E

    one word: ethered. you should just stop emailing her because she’s handled you twice already. you’re lookin` like a coon.

  • http://www.marshawj.org/toscana toscana

    E grande io ha trovato il vostro luogo! Le info importanti ottenute! ))

  • Native Son

    You got her sick. She is trying to divert the attention away from how she used Darrent Williams untimley death to platform issues of the graeter sommunity that are not directly related . Black people are so easily distracted we caught up in the exchange but forget what the argument is about. Again, you would be much more convincing if you left out the name calling.

  • Native Son

    You got her sick. She is trying to divert the attention away from how she used Darrent Williams untimley death to platform issues of the graeter sommunity that are not directly related . Black people are so easily distracted we caught up in the exchange but forget what the argument is about. Again, you would be much more convincing if you left out the name calling.

  • ty from linden blvd

    sickamore your like the sambo of bloggers

    and stop riding coattails u makin em dirty

    u young niggas just seem to jump on whatevers the talk of the day…change ya whole attitudes on a whim…