Why southern rap music sucks so bad…

Let me again qualify myself by saying that I am not a vegetarian, Free Mumia, Black Power rap music fan. That type of rap hasn’t been good since Public Enemy and it won’t ever be that good again. I do think that today’s rap music lacks a component that inspires the listener to think outside of the box and critically analyze their surroundings. The question remains to be answered as to whether it is the listeners tastes that caused the shift or the controllers of media that shape one’s tastes.

This is where I use southern region rap music as my example. For as long as I can remember there was only one theme that came from rappers who lived south of the Mason-Dixon line. It was all about partying and bullshit. Before Luke Campbell became a household name there was a cat called DJ Jimi from N’Awlins who had all the Atlanta strip clubs popping to his song ‘Where They At?’. If you ever heard this song it was complete jibberish. The hook went, “Do it baby sticky, stick baby do it. Shake that ass a little harder, and the nigga might buy you a Starter’. Since this was the late eighties I imagine that DJ Jimi was referring to a Starter team jacket. We had stopped wearing those in New York several years before, but the south was popular for copping old New York styles like they shopped at the Bowery Salvation Army.

For a brief moment OutKast had brought a soul to southern Hip-Hop and I thought that there might be the genesis of a new mindset. With all the young Black teenagers attending schools in the Atlanta area it looked as if there would be a moment when all the people who had been marginalized by mainstream society would finally push off their mental shackles and move themselves forward out from the stripper clubs. The next thing I knew Jermaine Dupri said, “Money Ain’t A Thing” and all the co-eds were back working the night shift at Club Nikki’s. Little John came in with his stripper anthems and so did Ludacris. As a side note, after all of the stripper jams Ludacris has crafted isn’t it ironic to watch him go to the Grammys with a song about some chick running away from abuse?

And speaking of the Grammy awards… T.I. was favored by some of you blank ass blanks to win because of his album titled ‘King’. This dude comes from Atlanta doesn’t he? The only King I know that comes from Atlanta doesn’t do Chevrolet commercials nor does he throw bricks of money up in the air to make it rain. What do you know about that? In a short window of time the controllers of mainstream media have subverted the messages and iconic imagery of what might arguably be African Americans greatest generation. They didn’t do it by themselves though. They had co-conspirators working with them from the inside. They used children, and the adults that refused to grow up.

In the thirty plus years that Hip-Hop and rap have been recognized as an art form you would imagine that Hip-Hop and rap would have had the sense enough to grow the fuck up. If you had thirty years of experience wouldn’t you be wiser for it? Then why isn’t Hip-Hop allowed to grow up? Why are you fans constantly being offered stupid lyrics and soda pop? Somebody doesn’t respect you for your intelligence and they are selling you the shit off the bottom of their shoes. I would ask you “what you know about that” but I already know you don’t know any better. Southern Hip-Hop and rap reflects today’s consumer markets aspirations and dreams. Rap music is over thirty years old and it is still looking to escape responsibility and find a party. Hip-Hop died long before the Godfather did. People are keeping themselves busy by selling you parts of the carcass.

  • DocZeus

    Finally, the fucking truth!

    • Gibz

      damn couldnt have said it any better. wow what a good post!!!!

      now i dont know about shit being completely dead though. check out my man Surg, this nigga right here is speakin some truth. and trying to open the eyes of our youth, which right now are covered with that down south shit.

      myspace.com/surgmusic trust me u wont be disappointed

  • reyo

    Wow! you nailed it.

  • bluemonkey

    ain’t it the truth

  • DEEZZ NUTZ

    U can’t put that of THE SOUTH damn u!
    U have the same bullshit come n from UP NORTH (Chicken Nuddle Soup)
    MIDWEST (Chain Hang Low)
    OUT WEST (Ghost Ride The Wipe)
    So get u’r panties out of u’r ass and
    stop blaming the SOUTH
    because its JIGGS all over the NATION

  • DEEZZ NUTZ

    DocZeus Says:

    February 14th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
    Finally, the fucking truth!
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    U CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUT!

  • DEEZZ NUTZ

    DocZeus Says:

    February 14th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
    Finally, the fucking truth!
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    U CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

  • My Effin’ Opinion

    WOW .. harsh words .. but completely accurate. EXCEPT for that it’s not only Southern Hip Hop, you can’t put all the blame on them. It’s HIP HOP in General. Southern Hip Hop has just perfected the art of making “club” music that is still hardcore. They have recognized that in order to make money, you need to have your records played on the radio and in the Clubs. Groups like EPMD, Rakim, KRS-ONE and Wu-Tang would have never made it if they were today’s “new artist”. Back then, Hip Hop wasn’t about the mainstream. So what do you get when you mix the Ruggedness of Wu-Tang plus the marketability and dance-ability (new word) of a Pop song? Southern Hip Hop.

    Sunday, If XXL.Mag told you, we’ll pay you $10 a week to blog about hip hop OR $1,000 a week to blog about pink socks…. which would YOU be writing about? Cats down south know it’s all about the moo-lah. They are just giving the people what the people buy. Doesn’t matter how detrimental it is to the culture. Drug Dealers have the same mind set. All about the money and don’t care what it’s doing to the community or to the person they’re selling the drug to.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    So your telling me that these guys music sucks:
    Outkast
    Scarface
    Trick Daddy
    Ceelo
    Weezy
    BG
    TI
    Luda
    Devin the Dude
    UGK
    Z-ro
    Rick Ross
    Juvenile
    PNC
    FIend
    David Banner

    • DZ

      Trick Daddy is DEFINITELY garbage! Can’t lie that I don’t of some of other people on your list. However this still doesn’t mean all of the south is equally as shitty. Outkast are definitely hip hop.. Luda I feel has the talent and ability to be better but chooses to do what he does.. At the end of the day it’s the listeners that are at fault here. People don’t care that they are ruining a culture and don’t care to do be educated.. oh well.

    • Eric

      All of them except OutKast

  • http://www.myspace.com/chadstanton Chad Stanton

    Complete and utter garbage. Stop watching MTV and ask somebody for the real.

  • WhiteChoco

    TRUE TRUE!!! a party is good for a little bit. sooner or later you are bound to get tired of the party and leave.

  • http://dronkmunk.blogpsot.com dronkmunk

    First, I say!

    Another unfocused post

  • Belize

    Should have came harder..u were in the right direction with the muisic, but a timeline would have been crucial
    i.e. Dj Jimi to Luke to That fukin Porkchop song they always play

    (who sings that shit anyway?)

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy Sunday

    I always question people that see drug dealers as a necessary evil. Listen to your culture’s music and demand better for yourself. Look at your life and demand better for yourself. Stop being cowards. You have a power that you wouldn’t believe once you decide to make a change.

  • http://xxlmag.com robin_tha_hood

    only 20% of south rap is good, the rest blows hardcore

    and when u compare that 20% percent of the good south rap to the other places that aint south, it gets put to shame.

    southern rappers always rap to that slow, no skill, boring flow, its always the same

  • Mr.TenAkey

    Sounds like a hater to me^

  • blute

    Hip hop will stay young because the youth are the people who buys it. You sound like an old loser that just doesn’t get it.

  • John Brown

    Yo you are a HATER my friend. First and foremost JD along with JAY-Z said “MONEY AINT A THANG”. But yet somehow you forgot to say that Jay-Z was part of it. And why you blame the south for. Just because we know how to party and have a good time doesnt mean we are killing anything. The only thing that is killing hip-hop is your stupid ass along with everyone else who hates on the SOUTH. Shit if you hate it so much dont watch tv, dont listen to the radio, dont go on the internet. Just sit there in your 1 bedroom/bathroom apartment and DIE SLOWLY. I have enjoyed all of your blogs but once you start hating on a region is just STUPID. Matter fact why dont you start making “better” type of music if you dont like what is hot right now.

  • troy

    For every shitty southern rapper you can think of I can name a shitty New York rapper, so stop putting the blame down here.

  • john cochran

    If you assholes read the whole post, you’d seen him write “This is where I use southern region rap music as my example”. Calm down. I think Hip hop as a whole parties too much. If an asian kid came to this countryt and didnt knoow anything about blacks and was shown BET all day, he’d think we were partying fools. Then when some one does put out substance either thier label doesn’t know how to market it or these teenage kids dont understand, therefore dont accept it.
    Sure, the south isnt fully the blame, but look at thier top 3 emcees(TIP,Luda,Wayne). They all do the same kinda shit. I say new york is even worse though cause they just follow the shit(Fat Joe,Fab,Dipset,Mims).

  • derfla the hus’la

    lol shit is gravy, one point I agree to is the fact that people jus refuse to grow up……….

  • ACE

    First!!!

    Hip-Hop is dead!!!

  • ACE

    Second!!!

    Rappers, please!!! stop rapping about the fucking cars!!!

  • thatdukeSuave

    The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE Says:

    February 14th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
    So your telling me that these guys music sucks:
    Outkast
    Scarface
    Trick Daddy
    Ceelo
    Weezy
    BG
    TI
    Luda
    Devin the Dude
    UGK
    Z-ro
    Rick Ross
    Juvenile
    PNC
    FIend
    David Banner
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    co-sign like a mofo

    Also Little Brother (NC), Dirty (Alabama), etc. I could go on, but y’all gon think what ya wanna think. One

  • jacquez
  • http://xxlmag.com Billy Sunday

    All these coward rappers have turned you into coward listeners. You boys are scared to become men now. Scared to think analytically at your environment. Everything out your mouth becomes hater because you lack the tools to disseminate information.

    You should kill yourselves.

  • http://www.chopdezol.com ovawit

    I think i finally figured it out…pseudo journalists like you will be the first to talk shit when a rapper takes into consideration all that is bad with rap and offer the antithesis…later you practically beg for hip op to grow up…but y’all are still overlyconcerned about how old a rapper is…then you want to say he should be doing something else because rap is a kid’s game…well then, how the fuck is hip hop supposed to grow up when the talking heads of the industry always look for ways to stoke negative energy?….Bitch

  • http://www.myspace.com/youngburna YounGBurna

    how u gone put the south on blast like that….JAY-Z WAS RIGHT BESIDE JD WHEN HE SAID IT SAYING IT WITH HIM…I CANT STAND NO NIGGA LIKE U…..IM HEATED….SO IM NOT EVEN GONE TYPE NOTHING ELSE…WIT YO DUMBASS

  • gluvnast

    you’re trying too hard to be like bol…smh

  • DAAAAYYYUUUUM!!!!

    YO SUNDAY !!!!!!!!

    You way offbase with your commentary homeboy….When you come to the South you’ll see the culture of hiphop is very broad and complex. Yeah we started grills and talk about rides but we played a position that was missing and kept hiphop on the map BITCH. I love NY but when the F*&K is the EAST going to step there game up and stop Complaining. You sound like a bunch of broads! If you don’t like it start a new trend….This Mimms cat had to come with a SOuthern style to get some play. “This is why I’m hot” ……N-E Way it’s the radio that dictates what get’s played there’s plenty of conscience SOuther Hip Hop that us mature hip hop fans can get there hands on…..STOP WHINING…THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU DISDAIN/INVY OF SOUTHERN HIP HOP!!!!!!

  • LIL VENOM

    ALL JOKES ASIDE IMAGINE IF THE SOUTH

    WAS AROUND WHAT WOULD BE KEEPING HIP

    HOP ALIVE CAUSE HONESTLY, IM FROM THE

    SOUTH AND I DONT LIKE EVERYTHING THAT

    IT BRINGS OUT, BUT SOMETIMES YOU DO

    WANT TO JUST HAVE A GOOD TIME A HEAR

    SOME PARTY MUSIC, NOT ALL TIME BUT

    SOMETIMES. THAT’S WHAT HIP HOP

    STARTED AS, MUSIC FOR US, JUST TO

    HAVE FUN TO WHETHER IN BLOCK OR HOUSE

    PARTIES, YOU MY FELLOW HIP HOP HEAD

    JUST FORGOT THAT SHIT. IF IT THE

    SOUTH WASNT AROUND THEN HIP HOP WOULD

    STILL BE GOOD IN OUR OPINIONS BUT

    STILL WOULD NOT BE SELLIN OR BE AS

    POPULAR AS IF THE SOUTH WAS AROUND

    AND THATS THE SAD TRUTH

    LIVE WITH THE FACT THAT MOST HIP HOP ISNT MADE FOR US REAL HIPHOP FANS WHO TRUELY LOVE IT THESE DAYS ITS MADE FOR THE KIDS WHO WANNA HAVE FUN

    PS HOLLA BACK, LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK BOUT WHAT I SAID HOW I SAID IT

  • dasouf

    FIRST OF ALL OLE BITCH ASS NIGGA, TRUST ME NIGGAS IN THE SOUTH DO TRY TAKE NO NIGGA STYLE FROM NEW YORK. STARTER JACKETS WERE AN INTERNATIONAL FAD IN THE EARLY TO MID 90′S NOT THE FUCKIN 80′S ANYWAY. I CANT EVEN BELEIVE YO EDITOR LET DAT MADE-UP ASS STATEMENT COME OUT THE BUILDING. OH AND U WANNA TALK ABOUT A REGION COPYING ANOTHER, WHAT ABOUT HOW NEW YORK THINK THEY INVENTED CRACK BUT MY OL SKOOL HOMEY FROM LIBERTY CITY TOLD IT WAS IN MIAMI IN THE 70′S. WHAT ABOUT WHEN IM UP HERE ON THE EAST COAST AND I SEE THESE LAME NIGGAS WEARIN GIRBAUDS WIT J’S ON THEY FEET.I WONDER WHO STARTED WEARIN GIRBAUDS 1ST? THA SOUF. WHAT ABOUT AROUND HERE IN SOUTH JERZ, PHILLY,AND DELAWARE NIGGAS GOT OLE SKOOL CUTLASSES ON 22″S. ANSWER DAT.AS FOR THAT DJ JIMI SONG, ITS A OL SKOOL NO BOUNCE SONG AND SINCE WE KNOW HOW TO DANCE UP HERE DATS WAT IT WAS MADE FO. U ACTIN LIKE NIGGAS JUST RIDE AROUND LISTENIN TO DAT. NIGGA WE LIKE GANGSTA SHIT DOG, CUZ ITS REAL MOTHAFUKIN GANGSTA IN DA SOUTH YA HEARD ME. WE LIKE BOOTY MUSIC AND JIGGIN IN THA CLUB CUZ WE GOT FINE HOES DAT CAN SHAKE THEY ASS LIKE JAMAICAN BITCHES. AINT NOBODY FROM THE SOUTH SAID SHIT WHEN ODB AND THEM WAS HOLLERIN MAKIN NO GOTDAMN SINCE WAT SO EVER ON A SONG. AND IF U WANNA NIGGA TO BE HONEST, JEEZY, T.I., WAYNE,B.G., Z-RO AND BOOSIE GOT BETTER LYRICS AND DEFINATLEY MORE RYTHYM THAN ANY RAPPER YO OL SKOOL ASS CAN NAME. NOW TALK BOUT DAT SHIT ON YA NEXT BLOG YA BITCH ASS NIGGA.

  • greens

    i hate new yprkers

  • http://bgdboom.blogspot.com Enigmatik
  • http://www.myspace.com/16kingz da’realestwritin’

    i live in the south but I’m fromup top and all I got to say to this is if dat’s the case explain:

    1.sugar hill gang (goofy ass nigga’s)

    2.MIMS (deserve to be shot goofy ass nigga)

    3. Chicken Noodle soup (wtfx12)

    4.onyx ( dance24 and blade the series,nuff said.)

    5.The lost boyz ( no disrespect but duke was the first homo rapper I knew)

    6.Quame or how ever the hell you spell it wit’ them whack-ass polka-dots!

    7.Dickset..oops..I mean brick se..shit! you get my drift

    8.pink

    9.come dawg pink!

    10. drum roll please, tdtttdttdttdttdttdttdtttdttdttdttdtdtdtdtttdttdtdtdttdtdtdt…….All current New York artist!!

    shit been a mess for a long time and every region had a hand in fuckin’ it up not jus the south even tho’ i can never forgive them for Gucci mane!

  • http://XXLMag.com SouthSide Chi

    Co-sign the south music is horrible- and it truly is ironic that the birth place of the civil rights movement would produce a sound(southern hiphop) that has no diversity and is for the most part ignorant. I’ve been to the A and many other parts of the South- why do they act so hard??? Chicago is a way more grimy city than any city down south- however many artists up there choose to put out positivity. Now there are people from Chicago that spit ignorance but there are those that come with positivity in order to balance out the ignorance- why does the South not have people like that. Before you call us haters, look at yourselves in the mirror my people(cousins from the south) and ask yourself why you produce so much garbage, with no intellectual thought behind it.

  • tim

    o ok so when jay z raps about cars and ice its ok but when lil jon and pall wall do it its wack???

    GTFOH!!!

  • Were Read 2 Def

    >I say new york is even worse though cause they just follow the shit(Fat Joe,Fab,Dipset,Mims).

    ^Please, don’t use the worst rappers fo that region as an example.

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Pice post you should have done a timeline. Its unfortunate that the XXL commentators especially the ones from the south will not be able to understand the things you typed. Dumb down your vocabulary.

  • http://lwoods37156facebook.com Dedication

    The south is whats keeping Hip Hop alive if u don’t like southern hip hop who cares because many people from the south don’t like new york hip hop as well new yorkers are just mad cause no one is paying any attention to them I’m so tired of hearing hip hop is dead but the truth is there careers are dead and they can’t take by the way different regions like different styles of music that’s just the way it is and the way it will always will be Oh yeah by the way Chick Noodle Soup was the worst song I have ever heard didn’t hear any New Yorkers complaining So suck it up yall are not hot anymore and that’s the bottom line!!!!!!

  • northern califoria

    ay dummy hip hop will always be led by tha youth, from tha 70s babies to tha 80s babies n now its tha 90s babies that control comercial hip hop n a 90s baby juss wanna party and bullshit…

  • http://lwoods37156facebook.com Dedication

    obviously they love the south cause they wouldn’t keep talking about it and for the one who said why the south act like they hard please its no act play wit and see!!!!!!!!!

  • http://whocareswhatpeoplethink thecollinb

    sunday you’re falling victim to the same thing most people who consider themselves thinkers fall victim to….
    why are you condemning and asking listeners to demand more from artist who never once said that it was their intention to make a change in their community though their music? i havent heard too many southern rappers (or rappers in general say) it’s their intention to be a beacon of light to their community and make songs that promote educating yourself and taking what’s rightfully yours in this caucasoid world….you’re trying to tell these artist they should in essence be role models when they never said they wanted to be….so calling them cowards and calling their listeners cowards only sounds juvenile and lets me know you arent capable of listening yourself.
    your post is on point but nah nigga….save it for them granola ass okayplayer kids

  • http://bgdboom.blogspot.com Enigmatik

    Let me start this off by saying that most of my favorite rappers are east coast rappers. My favorite rapper of all time is The Notorious B.I.G. My favorite rap group of all time is Wu-Tang Clan. Anyone who knows me knows that I ride or die for the east. But let’s get one thing straight: I am from the South first and foremost, the Nation of TEXAS specifically. The gripes against the South are that we are all about strip clubs, trappin’, cars, drugs, and dances. I marvel at the astute observations that are made concerning Southern culture. However, the tunnel vision that others outside of the South have in reference to what’s going on with Southern rap culture fails to make note that every other region of the country makes reference to those type of things. Just like there are people rapping about nonsense in the South, there are people rapping about nonsense on the West, the Midwest, and on the East (North?). The spotlight just so happens to have taken residence in the South.

    It’s an age old battle of the North versus the South and the hate that some up North have is quite strong for us Southerners. Again, I marvel at the revisionist history that occurs when people only speak about the bad aspects of the South as if New York record moguls weren’t dumping Cristal on the heads of models, every other rapper out of New York was suddenly a Mafia crime boss as well as becoming Human Crack In The Flesh, and Harlem Shaking their asses off. Southern artists in the limelight may be partying like there is no tomorrow but I think its better to party than having them dine on beef every 15 seconds like some of the more well known East coast artists. In fact, you’re likely to catch some of the East coast’s top acts hopping on the remix to one of those Southern party anthems that are supposedly killing hip hop (Shout out to Fat Joe and Dipset).

    There is more to the South than just partying and we have some truly thought provoking hip hop artists that respect the culture and their craft. However, if you depend on the media to point you in the direction of some of those true lyricists then blame yourself for placing your trust in a flawed system. At the end of the day, if you don’t like it, don’t buy it. Don’t listen to it, don’t watch it. Support your own. Support what’s good. I love hip hop no matter where it’s from. If you say Southern rap sucks I say you better check yourself, B. Go ask Outkast, Goodie MOB, UGK, Scarface, Lil’ Wayne, T.I., Ludacris, Chamillionaire, Juvenile, Little Brother, Trae, Devin the Dude, David Banner, Cunninlynguists, and Strange Fruit Project if Southern hip hop and rap sucks.

    It kills me when some of the knuckleheads say the South is killing rap and hip-hop while ignoring the slop that is sitting in their own backyard. Like it or not, the South is here to stay and you can either get down or lay down.

    In the words of UGK: Quit Hatin’ The South. Now go finish your chicken noodle soup and shut the hell up.

  • OG Frank

    Southern rap doesn’t suck…it’s the whole game that’s commercialized. It was the East in the beginning, the West in the mid-90s, and today it’s tha South, I don’t know why. Maybe they can do good songs which can also be radio friendly or audible to a pop music listener. Let’s hope this new Wu album gon’ bring it back to the ol’ times.

    All of you sayin’ Weezy can rap, fuck you all. He’s a punk bitch!

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy Sunday

    I threw my Starter jacket away in 1986 for a Polo crest windbreaker. The only people wearing Starter jackets in the 90′s were cornballs and crackheads. True story.

    I still say that people ned to stop being afraid to admit that drug dealers are the scourge of their community and not the role model.  If you don’t condemn someone for the method in which they use to get money then you are a coward.

    Stop being cowards.

  • http://www.thesbdexperience.com livefromthe225

    here’s a sarcastic list of non-Southern rappers evoking conciousness into the masses:

    jim jones
    jay-z (we can’t forgetabout “minority report”)
    50 cent
    the game
    cam’ron
    juelz santana
    snoop dogg
    ll cool j
    mims
    fabolous
    jadakiss (oh, can’t forget about “why”)
    and many more non-Southern rappers who’ve made significant contributions to the upliftment of the African American race

    —end sarcasm here:
    you ignorant, punk-ass Bol wanna be, non-writing ingrate…how dare you fix your meat-beating fingers to type that the plight of ignorance in rap music and/or Black America rest solely on the South’s shoulders…you tell me Billy Tuesday or whatever you call yourself at what point has a group like mobb deep drop jewels of social awareness like a goodie mobb, hell like field mobb…at what point has an artist like redman gave you ol’ school off-tha-porch wisdom like say a Juvenile…and if you can tell me when a nigga like E40 or Mac10 has given the same type of spirituality on wax as say a David Banner or even Scarface I will leave my Baton Rouge residence and dive head first into the Hudson Bay river and swim to the pacific ocean all while wearing an “Eminem Supports Reparations” t-shirt…
    in closing clown, writing blogs about the South for shock value DOES NOT undermine poor writing ability (i.e. your “Valentine’s” blog was straight ass)…Furthermore before you go out the box to make outlandish declarations about an entire region and its impact on hip hop culture or Black culture do yourself and the family you’re embarrasing a favor, do your damn research

    –u can hand elliot your resignation papers now

    • eddie bingo

      nasty….
      but – i liked it when E-40 did “One Love”, and I could prolly compare that to Banner’s new “Swag” – 2 different directions, but…

      • Eddie Bingo

        …. and peep Redman’s “So Ruff”.

        I’m from Texas. I love it all.

        • http://eddiebingo.net Eddie Bingo

          5 years later.

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Pice = Nice

  • http://xxlmag.com G.Wynn

    This is the most irresponsible narrow-minded bullshit that I have read in quite some time. To pen the lack of depth and lyricism on the South is as ignorant as this company giving you a blog spot. They should have used their money in a wiser fashion. Let’s talk about Dipset and their contributions to the game and lets talk about Dungeon Family’s contribution to the game. Let’s talk about Face, UGK, and what (yeah I said it!!!!!!!) Master P did to the game as far as independent labels. You have no idea what the SOUTH is about nor the contributions that it brings. Citing DJ Jimi in the 80′s want get you any cred. here. Your blogs have been weak and without any credibility to your name you want to come out your ass about the South. I be damn I guess all the rappers up north just wrote “We R The World” Raps. Get a grip, poison is poison, no matter what bottle it comes from. It can be from the South, East, Mid-West, or West Coast. Please hand in your resignation. It hurts me to see someone take up bench space when there r so many talented players in wait. Give up ya Damn Jersey Memphis Bleek ass nigga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.xxlmag.com/?cat=29 noz

    hooray for hip hop hegemony!

    2 Live crew’s first 12″ dropped in ’84 and Luke & co. were recieving national press for their battles against censorship by ’86-’87ish. jimi’s “where dey at” came out in ’92.

    and Outkast wore starters.

  • thekingof18

    i love it! Fuck the East Coast. that shit is dying slow like an AIDS patient.

    and FUCK THAT FAGGOT MIMS! he’s jocking or style… take that bullshit back to the bricks.

  • http://www.thesbdexperience.com livefromthe225

    by the way Billy Friday the only thing I can agree with you on is the irony that so much ignorance comes from our region that was the birthplace of the Civil Rights movement

    but then again the Harlem Renaissance took place in..well..you know Harlem and Cam’Ron, Mase, Loon, or Jim Jones for damn sure aint Countee Cullen, Langston Hughes,or Amiri Baraka etc…maybe i’m missing something

  • Prince Of The South

    Yo homie not all southern artists are snap ya fingers and I sell coke. Comments like these are whats’s going to start another coast war. I agree to a point the actaul art of Hip Hop has dies, no one is really trying to make music with a meaning and the ones who do, no one listens to them, but you can’t blame us.

  • derfla the hus’la

    tim Says:

    February 14th, 2007 at 4:28 pm
    o ok so when jay z raps about cars and ice its ok but when lil jon and pall wall do it its wack???

    GTFOH!!!
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    ummmm!!!!! I may be wrong but maybe Sunday is talking about diversity here

    noboby is actually saying the south is wack but maybe what you have to offer seems wack i.e we need mo of them little bother’s as opposed to the majority of ying yang twins we see.

    the last really lyrical monster to hit the shelf from the south is Andre 3000 but since he turned gay I can’t find he’s succesor, do you guys from the south realy think wayne is better then Andre?

    if new york is putting it’s future on people like papoose and saigon the south better come stronger than jus with lil wayne and koopa.

  • Dr Flav

    Yall niggas stay MADD! Why you so MADD? Is it too cold up there? Put a Southern artist sweatshirt on, so you can sweat harder. Pockets empty? Home to small with no backyard? Broads up there too masculine? (yes Remy Ma) A coward is someone who doesnt take blame for his situation and throws salt on the more successful aka sore losers. Insults to our intelligence? Original! Hop off the hateful elitist region hating bandwagon and go play Rumpshaker or your old Red Hot Lover Tone album. Sunday you wack on this one.

  • Nor Cal King (Yeeee!!!)

    I hate Southern rap also.It makes me sad when songs like Walk It Out even make TV or the radio. Honestly who gets down to that shit. Soemthing aint right if you do. And then Masta Killa or any other Wu (any hip hop act outside the mainstream box)member cant get a song played unless its a speacial occasion like a death or black history month. I live in the Bay Area home of the hyphy movement and it sucks cause all the clubs play this shit and all of it is basically Down South bullshit. I love supporting the bay any thing Mac Dre i will bump but these new guys have 0 talent. If anybody from the bay reads this tell me who is an even OK rapper in the hyphy movement.

  • Dr Flav

    Southside Chi aint nobody say nothing about house music with that Lil Louis “French Kiss” faggotry. Uhh, Uhh, WORK IT, WORK IT! LOL How Can you hate the south when many Chi People have Mississippi roots?

  • Dr Flav

    Shout out to Noz for knowin the biz on the culture and actual release dates. Follow a leader, Mr Sunday.

  • Whiteman

    The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE Says:

    February 14th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
    So your telling me that these guys music sucks:
    Outkast
    Scarface
    Trick Daddy
    Ceelo
    Weezy
    BG
    TI
    Luda
    Devin the Dude
    UGK
    Z-ro
    Rick Ross
    Juvenile
    PNC
    FIend
    David Banner
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Yes!!!

  • Dr Flav

    Live from 225 heres 2 E40 Joints for you One Love and I Hope You Get This Kite, very soulful tracks, Im with you on your post though, but I got to pop collars for Earl Fonzerelli.

  • Belize

    LMAO @ NoZ droppin sum ether

    LmFao @ Sunday having a Bill Cosby moment on the commentary

    (yeah I didnt know a shyt about jimi too)

  • thoreauly77

    oh shit! great post captain sunday! dont worry about all the calls that youre a hater; its only hate when its unsubstantiated — and damnit i wish it wasnt true but most southern hip-hop just doesnt SOUND very good or have much in the way of LYRICAL content. shit, i think i just became a hater, egads!

  • http://360.yahoo.com/deshawn772004 Anton: Hip-Hop Babysitter

    Coming from Miami… the nigga is half right and wrong. But I’ma say this… this is why niggaz from da NY is coming to Miami… and not coming back… catch my drift?

  • thp

    It seems like this post can be more blamed on the chilly weather up north making people bitter. To blame core societal problems on the geographical region of where people come from, and then blame this on a certain type of music (rap) is premature thinking. Ignorance is everywhere, most people in this world are getting exploited constantly. Profit thrives on people not knowing better. To think that a type of popular music is going to have even a hope on changing this situation is wishful thinking. These types of problems run much deeper.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    you ignorant, punk-ass Bol wanna be, non-writing ingrate…how dare you fix your meat-beating fingers to type that the plight of ignorance in rap music and/or Black America rest solely on the South’s shoulders…you tell me Billy Tuesday or whatever you call yourself at what point has a group like mobb deep drop jewels of social awareness like a goodie mobb, hell like field mobb…at what point has an artist like redman gave you ol’ school off-tha-porch wisdom like say a Juvenile…and if you can tell me when a nigga like E40 or Mac10 has given the same type of spirituality on wax as say a David Banner or even Scarface I will leave my Baton Rouge residence and dive head first into the Hudson Bay river and swim to the pacific ocean all while wearing an “Eminem Supports Reparations” t-shirt…
    in closing clown, writing blogs about the South for shock value DOES NOT undermine poor writing ability (i.e. your “Valentine’s” blog was straight ass)…Furthermore before you go out the box to make outlandish declarations about an entire region and its impact on hip hop culture or Black culture do yourself and the family you’re embarrasing a favor, do your damn research

    –u can hand elliot your resignation papers now
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    wow…billy you gotta a lot of eplaining to do…honestly your ass…i could do better than you with half the effort…

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy Sunday

    Black man Noz,
    Thanks for the info, sort of. 2Lives first album was in 1985 and they were from Cali I think. Luke Skyywalker was their manager for a few years and then later he became a rapper in the early 90′s. Doo doo brown is a classic Freaknik/strip club anthem and that shit didn’t drop until at least 1990.

    DJ JIMI was an underground phenom in Hotlanta, N’Awlins, Gainesville, Jackson, basically what I call the real south. ‘Where they at’ might have been formally released in 1992 but real niggas in the ‘hood was fuckin’ with that and the bitches reply before then.

    If you have an issue with the drop then please speak your mind and save the subliminal shit for the cowards and the faggerts that don’t know any better.

    For me, Hip-Hop’s rap music was borne from the struggle of marginalized and disenfranchised people. That doesn’t mean that everyone can’t enjoy rap and that doesn’t mean that someone who has dedicated their life to studying rappers birthdays and record release dates doesn’t have a place in Hip-Hop as well.

    It’s just that there comes a time when the party has to end and real men have to step up and handle theirs. If you aren’t part of that solution then you are part of the problem. Holler at me mayne, fuck this subliminal shit.

  • Dr Flav

    Doo Doo Brown was not made by 2 Live Crew, it was made by one hit wonder rapper Doo Doo Brown. You are a hip hop blogger Sunday, individual knowledge can be subsidized with research, Google is at your fingertips. Please save the Do The Right Thing rhetoric for the countless northern artists who rap about dope and genocide, i.e. Uncle Murder, Busta Rhymes (lol), D Block, Jay I cleaned up my dope money Z… The list goes on, dont be a hypocrite.

  • Dr Flav

    Awaiting Moderation is wack. Go on let them comments roll through anything less is cowardice. LOL!

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy Sunday

    ^I blog on a Hip-Hop centric website and you are a dumb azz blank. Go Google ‘doo doo brown’ for yourself

  • Atl’s own

    the writer or dis article iz dubious at best.

    -the time line is an inaccurate use of facts and taking out of context(ie 2live crew came b4 dj jimmi).

    -if it wasn’t for 2live crew every body would probably be listenin’ to da edited version of their fav rapper.

    -to say south rap is simply party and bullshit; as if its just us makin’ dat feel good music is absurd and u know it!

    -to da ass dat said southern rap lack diversity; U may be more dumber than the writer of this article.
    *Oukast- thought provoking music
    *Lil Jon- Party music
    *Ludacris – word smith
    *TI- Gangsta music
    *Goodie mobb- Revolutionary,Political

    And dats all in da A, If u expand to the entire south you’ll soon realize dat we have a multitude of diversity

    whereas NY niggaz is more or less da same(punch line after punchline) fightin for da same crown.

    -stop acting like NY was disconnected
    from da US at some time in da past. Nigga every body was wearin’ starter up to about ’93 at da least. i’m old enough to remember nicca! don’t beleive me check sum of yo favorite rappers videos.

    -finally da fact dat the birth place of da civil right movement, home of the best strip clubs in america, and where TI is from are merely coincidental and in no way helps yo weak argument.

  • Maryland

    How can you people hate down south music but there’s lots of muzik from NC and VA thats better than NY music. If south music is hated so much why is NY rappers biting? i.e. mims, dipset, mase, fat joe, etc.. Chi dude how can you talk down on the south when majortity of your black population has roots in south or originally from the south in general. i.e. Oprah, Shawna’s father, John Johnson owner of ebony magazine, etc etc

  • http://www.xxlmag.com/?cat=29 noz

    Luke was definitely a rapper/hypeman/spokesperson on “We Want Some Pussy”, which says 1986 on the label. Not only does that record predate “where dey at,” it might just predate “triggaman,” the backbone of “where dey at.” I don’t profess to have any first hand knowledge of what THA NAWLINS HOOD WAS BANGING when I was in diapers up north and I don’t doubt that some of what would become the “where dey at” chants existed well before the song was committed to vinyl. but you’re talking about an eight or nine year lapse and I just don’t see how that’d be possible, especially considering the triggaman paradox.

    and no subliminals. i wasn’t planning on spending too much time engaging in your subcrawfordian bait/shock tactics. i suspect you already know how i feel about this topic and i’m not really in the mood for putting on a spectacle for confused fruitflies.

    but i will say this – i may not be of a historically marginalized and disenfranchised people but i’m for damn sure not about shitting on the marginalized and disenfranchised (or anyone really) for having fun. especially when great (yes great) art is being made in the process.

    music can incite change but it’s self destructive to sit on your hands and wait for music alone to make change. and i don’t think manning up is about pointing fingers at fifteen year olds who do silly dances.

    also i think you should listen to some z-ro.

  • thatwhitedude

    your statement that its messed up how hip-hop hasn’t grown up at all in 30 yrs is def true, but how the hell you gonna blame it on the south??? all regions have BS party music, lets not forget that JD’s “money aint a thing” also had jay-z on it, let’s not forget harlem’s BS party music/dance songs like the harlem shake, chicken noodle soup, and other forms of jiggery, let’s not forget the whole identity of west coast rap being only about gang banging or having fun at a bbq during the summer, there is BS, wanting to be young, partying, assshaking rap from EVERY region, not just the south, maybe you and others only feel this way about the south is because its the only way its ever portrayed in the mainstream, if people actually took the time to dig deeper into the southern rap scene they would DEF find just as much good, substance-based, quality rap as there is in NYC, the problem isn’t with the south’s rappers, the problem is with the people that only choose to portray it as the party music region of rap, its companies like MTV, BET, XXL, The Source, etc. that choose to portray it this way, maybe if you were from the south you would actually realize this, the problem stems from the fact that all the hip-hop media is owned and controlled basically by THE EAST COAST! so its obvious that they will always portray their region’s rap as the only quality music being made and portray all the other regions as idiots that are “killing hiphop” even though the guilt lies with all the regions…if someone really wanted to they could even make a good argument on how most of the guilt should rely on THE EAST COAST for the state hip-hop is in currently since this region just about ALWAYS has the media’s spotlight on it while the west and south have to strive harder to get airplay/radioplay/etc, and the east controls most of the hip-hop media, therefore controls what direction hip-hop goes in more so than any other region…others have already done it but let me reiterate the southern rappers who are seriously dropping knowledge, i urge you to check out at least a few and see how wrong you really are in your reasoning that the south is ruining rap all on its own…
    Outkast
    Scarface
    Trick Daddy
    Goodie Mobb/Dungeon Family
    Nappy Roots (wtf happened to them?)
    Geto Boys
    UGK
    Screwed Up Click & DJ Screw (R.I.P.)
    8Ball & MJG
    K-Rino and SPC
    Street Military
    DJ DMD
    Guerilla Maab
    Point Blank
    5th Ward Boys
    South Park Mexican
    Fat Pat (R.I.P.)
    Do Or Die (i know from chitown but they were on Rap-A-Lot, has to count for something right?)
    Z-Ro
    Trae
    Juvenile on about half his shit
    dead prez
    Dirty
    Pastor Troy
    Chamillionaire (trust me, you just gotta dig a little bit deeper than the singles and you’ll see its there)

    between this post and that one talking about “where are they now” rappers that seriously didn’t go anywhere, i’m beginning to wonder if you really listen to any hip-hop from the past 3 yrs, cause it seems like you have no idea what is going on with hip-hop currently…

  • Dr Flav

    Hip Hop Centric? That sounds like Kool Aid without the sugar and name calling Mr Sunday? Thats a dimwits response to a debate, ah to have the advantage of northern book learnin. Carry On.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy Sunday

    Noz,
    It’s hard for some to tell when my drops are for shits and giggles and when I am spitting from my soul that lives for Hip-Hop. This post isn’t for laughs or for comments. It’s for thoughts. Now that I have people thinking about what they internalize the wheels are moving. Like I said before, Hip-Hop has a place for the cats that memorize peoples birthdays as well as a space for the people that write subcrawfordian rants. I’ll stay in my lane and you can stay in yours. May the twain never meet Hip-Hop would not be at a loss.

    TWD,
    ride out with me on this drop and understand that if the West region was dominating radio play I would make this argument as well as if New York artists were leading the genre. If you look at Florida and Georgia they are technically part of the eastern seaboard so I suppose that makes this an anti-east coast diatribe. What do you consider listening to current rap music? The Game, Clipse, NaS, Ghost, Snoop, Jay, Pharoe? I don’t download as much music as you do and that’s why I don’t hear as many one offs, but the shit I do hear makes me wanna holler. You tell me that I have no idea what is going on with current Hip-Hop… I don’t know if you have any idea what is going on in the real world. Tell me I’m lying…

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy Sunday

    last shot to the fruitfly Flav…

    Did you Google ‘Doo doo brown’ already? Now sit down ho.

  • Looms

    People can bag on the south all they want, but the only mc’s I’ve heard lately that have been holdin’ it down have been from the south. And I don’t even live there. The reason why they’ve been blowing up lately is because they talk about universal subjects more often than not.
    I would much rather hear a real person like Devin than hear Saigon do the same by-the-book super thug stories. That shit got old in the mid-90′s.
    But regardless, mc’s everywhere need to stop acting like knuckle dragging neanderthals & get their shit together. ‘Cause I’m fucking tired of rap now.

  • thatwhitedude

    i guess if you listen to all those rappers you listed then you technically “listen to current rap music”, i guess what i should of said at the end of my lengthy rant is you and others should try to dig deeper below the surface or current hip-hop being released, like Trae and Z-Ro for example, and you will find that its not as bad as XXL and other major media outlets like to claim it is, mainstream current hip-hop sucks and has for awhile, but i guess the root of this problem is the whole system behind hip-hop such as the music labels and major conglomerates, the problem is hip-hop has become a business, but rock music is a big business as well, just like how rock music fans tend to dig deeper into the indie scenes in order to find better quality rock music, maybe you and others need to learn to dig deeper into the current landscape of rap music in order to find the good quality music, a lot of which i listed for you in my last post (albeit most of it was TX rap, but that’s just cause i’m from TX, people from the other southern states could probably name more quality rap from their areas as well), a lot of the quality stuff nowadays is also on mixtapes, which i feel you don’t check out as much as a blogger for XXL should,but even nowadays the mixtapes are starting to get too commercial and mainstream sounding filled with BS as well…as noz said in his post, its not always a bad thing to have “fun” type music, hip-hop basically started out as fun, party music, and i feel it would be wrong for this aspect of the genre to ever totally go away…

    as for you claiming i have no idea what is going on in the “real world”, and i take it you don’t mean the MTV show that Bol constantly blogs on, (how does my real life even come up on a “hip-hop centric” website when we are discussing the state of hip-hop right now…), i don’t know if this was a rhetorical question or not, but to answer you, i keep up on the news daily, i have a steady 9-5 job, and everyday i make the commute from northern houston to southern houston where i work, so even though i don’t live in the worst of areas in my city, i see it daily and just about all of houston nowadays isn’t in the best of shape being that it has turned into the “New” New Orleans since Katrina (80% of crime now in houston either has the victim or victimizer as a person from new orleans!!), and as an aside i usually namedrop going to the same “ghetto” highschool that paul wall and chamillionaire went to and living in the same not-so-rich-yet-not-dirt-poor area whenever my “street cred” is questioned, only half-seriously though…

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy Sunday

    TWD,
    as noted I will pick up a copy of Trae and Z-Ro

  • thatwhitedude

    and i realize half of my comments prob don’t make sense, i blame the format of the whole blog commenting system on here, with the delayed comment posting and the overall basic, shitty format that makes serious discussions nearly impossible on here, its almost like the person in charge of this site WANTS idiots to come on here and post immature name-calling comments and responses with no substance or logic in what they say…hmmmm very similar to the state of mainstream hip-hop today, you could probably make a whole post on here on how this mainstream hip-hop website’s blogs, comments section, blog writers, and readers are a direct reflection/good analogy of how the entire state of mainstream hip-hop is today…

  • Incilin

    Hmm. I like the southern indicments, but you seem to forget the essence of hip hop music. I mean yeah, there is way too much party music and not enough balance between the mainstream and the artistic, but I mean hip hop was invented at a party. A blcok party at that.

    In fact the parties were being thrown because black people weren’t allowed to go to discos and dance so they made thier own parties. Now it seems like your asking for a evolution in music, but doing so may lead to rappers forgetting the roots. What we need is the balance.

  • Dr Flav

    Google these nuts, ole colonial speakin, bright pastel polo wearin, preppie ass mark! Is what I would say if I wasnt taking the high road of a cultured southern gentleman. Good ish @ noz and thatwhitedude. Lol @ subcrawfordian, Bol ass gon love that shit.

  • Dr Flav

    2 Hype Brothers and A Dog made Doo Doo Brown, Using A Luke Sample from a song by another name.

  • Dr Flav

    I forgot to correct myself, 2 Hype Brothers and A Dog made Doo Doo Brown, Using A Luke Sample from a song by another name.

  • Cuban Link

    wow.ur like the blogging-form of me.best post all year

  • http://www.myspace.com/suntzu Sun Tzu

    wow post of the year definently

    beautiful

  • http://www.myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    Ok..I like this blog..

    yall need to realize that hip-hop music fluctuates from time to time, and all great music isnt apprectiated immediately … and that ranges from Bob Marley to Devin.

    Maybe yall need some reggae in your life, if I just listened to hip-hop all day I might do the chickennoodle soup myself

  • thatwhitedude

    TWD,
    as noted I will pick up a copy of Trae and Z-Ro
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    haha cool, hopefully you will change your tune, if you need free downloadable copies just hit me up although i’m sure you’ll be able to find some online

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy Sunday

    Flav,
    you remind me of a Funkadelic song called ‘Jimmy’s Got A Little Bitch In Him’. Your swag smells fag nigger. If you don’t like my blog drop that’s fine, speak your mind, but keep it eye level since you don’t know me and I don’t know you.

    Instead of e-thuggin’ go get a hug from yo momma nigger and ask her what state yo daddy lives in so maybe you can write him a Valentine.

  • Hurricane Game

    People need to stop hatin the south. The only bad artists from there are D4L and those other Jigs that dance in their videos.

  • bottom boi

    to silly sunday and the rest of the niggas hating on the south. fuck ya with a aids dick. To much wack ass music coming form the east Post that shit. Post the real reason why East not sellin records. The fucked up part is almost all the fucking major companies are in the east. You would think they would have first dibs on shit before anybody. aint no big record companies in the south. The south had to do they shit independantly sell big and then get recognition. Cham paul wall mike jones and flip sold damn near gold before the major deal. and yall call all them wack when east coast artist can barely sale with major deals. The east coast is lazy. The south has more hustle. Point blank. South artist respect all the old niggas that started the shit. but the fact is they old. Nobody tryin to hear that old shit no more. This a new generation. For all you old dudes go listen to ya old school and eat ya prunes.

  • bottom boi

    Southern Chi

    I should slap yo ass in the mouth, where the fuck have you been in the south to say that the chi is more grimey. Nigga I been to the chi I got fam in the chi. And if you really from the Chi you would know that so many people thats in the chi are orginally from the fucking south. I know niggas in the chi that would whip ya ass for saying some stupid shit. Stop reppin the Chi ool bitch made niggas fa real. cuz real niggas know the south and the been tight. Everybody down bottom was on tthat old do or die, crucial conflict shit. and twista before the major deal. so sit the fuck down bitch boy

  • cashmere

    you make a lot of valid and relevant statements here, but using the South as a pivot is a bit arbitrary. i don’t know what your resentment is rooted in, or why you need to qualify yourself as a non-”Free Mumia” fan, but parts of this definitely smack of insecurity. grow up. yes, outkast introduced some soul and provided a glimmer of hope, but all coasts served up vultures of their own. the east coast gave us swizz when the south gave us mannie. the west gave us gangsta rap when the south gave us screw. debating the intellectual merits of any of these is pointless, since everything in hip-hop is cyclical and seems to feed on itself. you are a poor editorial writer and plain immature, to boot. good luck.

  • ShoSho

    The Truth hurts but being from the south and growing up around it…I can say..It is destroying our kids and the white supremicy groups are looking and laughing…They don’t have to hang us anymore…we are hanging ourselves…

  • http://peaceandpaper.blogspot.com/ Propaganda Life

    Interesting article, thanks.

    While I don’t think there is anything wrong with southern hip-hop as an artform (even though I’m not a massive fan), I do have a problem with so many so called ‘heads’ claiming it’s the only innovation coming out right now.

    That’s straight crap, and anyone who claims the dirty south is dragging the rest of hip-hop along right now needs to try listening to another sub-genre.

    http://peaceandpaper.blogspot.com/

  • EReal

    Man, there is some actual discussion goin on in here. WoW.

    Noz, damn homie, you got your nose in the crates like a mofo. Sunday shoulda known he dont want it with “tha white boy”, lol.. Sunday, I only say that because that Black Man Noz comment was fucked up homie.

    Sunday, I smell ya on the fact that people cant really discern when you’re playin or being facetious and when you’re really trying to make a point, so I understand your frustration on that, especially when people wanna go straight to callin you a hater before any actual intelligent argument.

    Here’s my question, and I think you and Noz touched on it a little bit.
    “Isnt there room for both?”
    I say that to say Theres plenty of hiphop listeners and plenty of situations you’re in and you wanna hear different shit. I can’t listen to the same shit chillin with my girl as I would if I was pissed and wantin to fight someone ya know? I listen to a little bit of backpacker stuff, mostly Arsonists, Swollen Members, Blackstar, Lyracists Lounge, Herio, shit ike that. I also listen to Gangsta Rap, be it NY or Cali, I also listen to south rap like Outkast, Chamill, T.I., Luda,B.G., Juve, (old) Lil Wayne, Hot boys, Dirrty Boyz, Jim Crowe, ect.
    I listen to whatever, whenever I feel like it. Now, Mind you that I dont even being to act like I enjoy shit like D4L , all that snap pop bullshit. But it does have it’s place,.. in the club.
    I was one who actually enjoyed Kingdom Come, I thought it was a different aspect and I appreciate that. I listen to shit like that on the way to meetings, ect. Doin my grown man ya know?
    I just dont get why there cant be music for certin aspects of life, certin ways you feel, good, bad, mad, introspective, ect.
    Why does it all hafta be about region, about skillz, about record sales, about content, why cant music lovers just love their music without there being restrictions or any of this bullshit about who’s the best, who’s beefin, who’s talkin about bullshit, ect.?
    Just my .02, I need a late pass on this one.

    1 hunned.

  • D4ni

    4 dat dude who was saying “dont rap about cars” then should they rap about roller bladez and dvd players?STUPID!
    then there should be tv program called pimp my roller bladez or funkmaster flex celebrity dvd show!!!!!!!ratha cars than grilled chicken.and cars have been inna rap 4 long time!!!!
    and r.i.p. my mon P see u inna heaven…

  • THE DEVIL

    WHAT THE FUCK

    A HATER LIKE BILLY SUNDAY

    HE WANT THE TRUTH

    ONE OF THE FIRST HIP HOP SONGS EVER THAT CAME FROM NEW YORK WENT LIKE THIS IN 1979

    I said a hip hop the hippie the hippie
    to the hip hip hop, a you dont stop
    the rock it to the bang bang boogie
    say up jumped the boogie
    to the rhythm of the boogie, the beat

    Now what you hear is not a test
    i’m rappin to the beat
    and me, the groove, and my friends
    are gonna try to move your feet
    see i am wonder Mike and i like to say hello
    to the black, to the white, the red,
    and the brown, the purple and yellow
    but first i gotta bang bang the boogie to the boogie
    say up jump the boogie to the bang bang boogie
    let’s rock, you dont stop
    rock the riddle that will make your body rock
    Well so far youve heard my voice
    but i brought two friends along
    and next on the Mike is my man Hank
    come on, Hank, sing that song

    Check it out, i’m the c-a-s-an-the-o-v-a
    and the rest is f-l-y
    ya see i go by the code of the doctor of the mix
    and these reasons i’ll tell ya why
    ya see i’m six foot one and i’m tons of fun
    and i dress to a t
    ya see i got more clothes than muhammad ali
    and i dress so viciously
    i got bodyguards, i got two big cars
    that definitely aint the wack
    i got a lincoln continental and a sunroof cadillac
    so after school, i take a dip in the pool
    which really is on the wall
    i got a color tv so i can see
    the knicks play basketball
    hear me talkin bout checkbooks, credit cards
    more money than a sucker could ever spend
    but i wouldnt give a sucker or a bum from the rucker
    not a dime til i made it again
    everybody go hotel motel
    whatcha gonna do today (say what)
    ya say im gonna get a fly girl
    gonna get some spankin
    drive off in a def oj
    everybody go, hotel motel holiday inn
    say if your girl starts actin up,
    then you take her friend
    master gee, am I mellow
    its on you so what you gonna do

    Well it’s on n on n on on n on
    the beat dont stop until the break of dawn
    i said m-a-s, t-e-r, a g with a double e
    i said i go by the unforgettable name
    of the man they call the master gee
    well, my name is known all over the world
    by all the foxy ladies and the pretty girls
    i’m goin down in history
    as the baddest rapper there could ever be
    now i’m feelin the highs and ya feelin the lows
    the beat starts gettin into your toes
    ya start poppin ya fingers
    and stompin your feet
    and movin your body
    while youre sittin in your seat
    and the damn ya start doin the freak
    i said damn, right outta your seat
    then ya throw your hands high in the air
    ya rockin to the rhythm, shake your derriere
    ya rockin to the beat without a care
    with the sureshot m.c.s for the affair
    now, im not as tall as the rest of the gang
    but i rap to the beat just the same
    i dot a little face and a pair of brown eyes
    all i’m here to do ladies is hypnotize
    singin on n n on n on n on
    the beat dont stop until the break of dawn
    singin on n n on n on on n on
    like a hot buttered a pop
    da pop da pop dibbie dibbie
    pop da pop pop ya dont dare stop
    come alive yall gimme what ya got
    i guess by now you can take a hunch
    and find that i am the baby of the bunch
    ‘but that’s okay i still keep in stride
    cause all i’m here to do is just wiggle your behind
    singin on n n on n on n on
    the beat dont stop until the break of dawn
    singin on n n on n on on n on
    rock rock yall throw it on the floor
    im gonna freak ya here im gonna feak ya there
    im gonna move you outta this atmosphere
    cause im one of a kind and ill shock your mind
    ill put t-t-tickets in your behind
    i said 1-2-3-4, come on girls get on the floor
    a-come alive, yall a-gimme what ya got
    cause im guaranteed to make you rock
    i said 1-2-3-4
    tell me wonder mike what are you waitin for?

    i said a hip hop the hippie to the hippie
    the hip hip hop, a you dont stop
    the rock it to the bang bang boogie
    say up jumped the boogie
    to the rhythm of the boogie, the beat
    skiddlee beebop a we rock a scoobie doo
    and guess what america we love you
    cause ya rock and ya roll with so much soul
    you could rock till you’re a hundred and one years old
    i dont mean to brag i dont mean to boast
    but we like hot butter on our breakfast toast
    rock it up baby bubbah
    baby bubbah to the boogie da bang bang da boogie
    to the beat beat, its so unique
    come on everybody and dance to the beat

    I said a hip hop the hippie the hippie
    to the hip hip hop, a you dont stop
    rock it out baby bubbah to the boogie da bang bang
    the boogie to the boogie da beat
    I said i cant wait til the end of the week
    when i’m rappin to the rhythm of a groovy beat
    and attempt to raise your body heat
    just blow your mind so that you cant speak
    and do a thing but a rock and shuffle your feet
    and let it change up to a dance called the freak
    and when ya finally do come in to your rhythmic beat
    rest a little while so ya dont get weak
    i know a man named Hank
    he has more rhymes than a serious bank
    so come on Hank sing that song
    to the rhythm of the boogie da bang bang da bong

    Well, im imp the dimp the ladies pimp
    the women fight for my delight
    but im the grandmaster with the three mcs
    that shock the house for the young ladies
    and when you come inside, into the front
    you do the freak, spank, and do the bump
    and when the sucker mcs try to prove a point
    we’re treacherous trio, we’re the serious joint
    a from sun to sun and from day to day
    i sit down and write a brand new rhyme
    because they say that miracles never cease
    i’ve created a devastating masterpiece
    i’m gonna rock the Mike til you cant resist
    everybody, i say it goes like this
    well i was comin home late one dark afternoon
    a reporter stopped me for a interview
    she said she’s heard stories and she’s heard fables
    that i’m vicious on the Mike and the turntables
    this young reporter i did adore
    so i rocked a vicious rhyme like i never did before
    she said damn fly guy im in love with you
    the casanova legend must have been true
    i said by the way baby what’s your name
    said i go by the name of Lois Lane
    and you could be my boyfriend you surely can
    just let me quit my boyfriend called superman
    i said he’s a fairy i do suppose
    flyin through the air in pantyhose
    he may be very sexy or even cute
    but he looks like a sucker in a blue and red suit
    i said you need a man who’s got finesse
    and his whole name across his chest
    he may be able to fly all through the night
    but can he rock a party til the early light?
    he cant satisfy you with his little worm
    but i can bust you out with my super sperm
    i go do it, i go do it, i go do it, do it , do it
    an i’m here an i’m there
    i’m big bang Hank, i’m everywhere
    just thro/w your hands up in the air
    and party hardy like you just dont care
    let’s do it dont stop yall a tick a tock yall you dont stop
    go hotel motel what you gonna do today(say what)
    im gonna get a fly girl gonna get some spank drive off in a def oj
    everybody go hotel motel holiday inn
    you say if your girl starts actin up then you take her friend
    i say skip, dive, what can i say
    i cant fit em all inside my oj
    so i just take half and bust them out
    i give the rest to master gee so he could shock the house

    It was twelve o’clock one friday night
    i was rockin to the beat and feelin all right
    everybody was dancin on the floor
    doin all the things they never did before
    and then this fly fly girl with a sexy lean
    she came into the bar, she came into the scene
    as she traveled deeper inside the room
    all the fellas checked out her white sasoons
    she came up to the table, looked into my eyes
    then she turned around and shook her behind
    so i said to myself, its time for me to release
    my vicious rhyme i call my masterpiece
    and now people in the house this is just for you
    a little rap to make you boogaloo
    now the group ya hear is called phase two
    and let me tell ya somethin we’re a helluva crew
    once a week we’re on the street
    just a-cuttin’ the jams and making it free
    for you to party ya got to have the movies
    so we’ll get right down and give you the groove
    for you to dance you gotta get hype
    so we’ll get right down for you tonight
    now the system’s on and the girls are there
    ya definitely have a rockin affair
    but let me tell ya somethin there’s still one fact
    that to have a party ya got to have a rap
    so when the party’s over you’re makin it home
    and tryin to sleep before the break of dawn
    and while ya sleepin ya start to dream
    and thinkin how ya danced on the disco scene
    my name appears in your mind
    yeah, a name you know that was right on time
    it was phase two just a doin a do
    rockin ya down cause ya know we could
    to the rhythm of the beat that makes ya freak
    come alive girls get on your feet
    to the rhythm of the beat to the beat the beat
    to the double beat beat that it makes ya freak
    to the rhythm of the beat that says ya go on
    on n on into the break of dawn
    now i got a man comin on right now
    he’s guaranteed to throw down
    he goes by the name of wonder Mike
    come on wonder Mike do what ya like

    like a can of beer that’s sweeter than honey
    like a millionaire that has no money
    like a rainy day that is not wet
    like a gamblin fiend that does not bet
    like dracula with out his fangs
    like the boogie to the boogie without the boogie bang
    like collard greens that dont taste good
    like a tree that’s not made out of wood
    like goin up and not comin down
    is just like the beat without the sound no sound
    to the beat beat, ya do the freak
    everybody just rock and dance to the beat
    have you ever went over a friends house to eat
    and the food just aint no good
    i mean the macaroni’s soggy the peas are mushed
    and the chicken tastes like wood
    so you try to play it off like you think you can
    by sayin that youre full
    and then your friend says momma he’s just being polite
    he aint finished uh uh that’s bull
    so your heart starts pumpin and you think of a lie
    and you say that you already ate
    and your friend says man there’s plenty of food
    so you pile some more on your plate
    while the stinky foods steamin your mind starts to dreamin
    of the moment that it’s time to leave
    and then you look at your plate
    and your chickens slowly rottin
    into something that looks like cheese
    oh so you say that’s it i got to leave this place
    i dont care what these people think
    im just sittin here makin myself nauseous
    with this ugly food that stinks
    so you bust out the door while its still closed
    still sick from the food you ate
    and then you run to the store for quick relief
    from a bottle of kaopectate
    and then you call your friend two weeks later
    to see how he has been
    and he says i understand about the food
    baby bubbah but we’re still friends
    with a hip hop the hippie to the hippie
    the hip hip a hop a you dont stop the rockin
    to the bang bang boogie
    say up jump the boogie
    to the rhythm of the boogie the beat
    i say hank can ya rock
    can ya rock to the rhythm that just dont stop
    can ya hip me to the shoobie doo
    i said come on make the make the people move

    I go to the halls and then ring the bell
    because i am the man with the clientele
    and if ya ask me why i rock so well
    a big bang, i got clientele
    and from the time i was only six years old
    i never forgot what i was told
    it was the best advice that i ever had
    it came from my wise dear old dad
    he said sit down punk i wanna talk to you
    and dont say a word until i’m through
    now there’s a time to laugh a time to cry
    a time to live and a time to die
    a time to break and a time to chill
    to act civilized or act real ill
    but whatever ya do in your lifetime
    ya never let a mc steal your rhyme
    so from sixty six til this very day
    ill always remember what he had to say
    so when the sucker mcs try to chump my style
    i let them know that i’m versatile
    i got style finesse and a little black book
    that’s filled with rhymes and i know you wanna look
    but there’s a thing that separates you from me
    and that’s called originality
    because my rhymes are on from what you heard
    i didnt even bite and not a god d–m word
    and i say a little more later on tonight
    so the sucker mc’s can bite all night
    a tick a tock yall a beat beat yall
    a lets rock yall ya dont stop
    ya go hotel motel whatcha gonna do today (say what)
    ya say im gonna get a fly girl gonna get some spankin
    drive off in a def oj
    everybody go hotel motel holiday inn
    ya say if your girl starts actin up
    then you take her friends
    a like that yall to the beat yall
    beat beat yall ya dont stop
    a master gee am I mellow?
    its on you so whatcha gonna do

    Well like johnny carson on the late show
    a like frankie croker in stereo
    well like the barkay’s singin holy ghost
    the sounds to throw down they’re played the most
    its like my man captain sky
    whose name he earned with his super sperm
    we rock and we dont stop
    get off yall im here to give you whatcha got
    to the beat that it makes you freak
    and come alive girl get on your feet
    a like a perry mason without a case
    like farrah fawcett without her face
    like the barkays on the mike
    like gettin right down for you tonight
    like movin your body so ya dont know how
    right to the rhythm and throw down
    like comin alive to the master gee
    the brother who rocks so viciously
    i said the age of one my life begun
    at the age of two i was doin the do
    at the age of three it was you and me
    rockin to the sounds of the master gee
    at the age of four i was on the floor
    givin all the freaks what they bargained for
    at the age of five i didnt take no jive
    with the master gee its all the way live
    at the age of six i was a pickin up sticks
    rappin to the beat my stick was fixed
    at the age of seven i was rockin in heaven
    dontcha know i went off
    i got right on down to the beat you see
    gettin right on down makin all the girls
    just take of their clothes to the beat the beat
    to the double beat beat that makes you freak
    at the age of eight i was really great
    cause every night you see i had a date
    at the age of nine i was right on time
    cause every night i had a party rhyme
    goin on n n on n on on n on
    the beat dont stop until the break of dawn
    a sayin on n n on n on on n on…
    like a hot buttered de pop de pop de pop
    a saying on n n on n on on n on
    cause i’m a helluva man when i’m on the mike
    i am the definate feast delight
    cause i’m a helluva man when i’m on the mike
    i am the definate feast delight
    come to the master gee you see
    the brother who rocks so viciously

  • THE DEVIL

    SO NOW THE SUGARHILL GANG IS GARBAGE

  • Jae Mitch

    In the words of the Great Pimp C “Quit Hatin The South”!!! The ball is in our court and mufuckas can’t stand it, at least the mufucaks that can’t move no units or talk shit on the web. Get of the South dick and go get some pads cause niggas still on they period up there!!

  • THE DEVIL

    IF BILLY SUNDAY WUZ FROM THE SOUTH HE IZ THE TYPE OF PERSON WHO TRIES TO GARNER RESPECT AND ADMIRATION THROUGHOUT WITH HIS LOW SELF ESTEEM WITH A VALID POINT SO HIS PEERS. ( WHICH IS FELLOW EAST COAST-ERS) IN TRYING TO MAKE A VALID STATEMENT IN WHICH HE MAKES NO FUCKIN SENSE.

    GIBBERISH

    WHEN NEW YORK JUST DROP THE CHICKEN NOODLE SOUP

    LETS FACE IT

    BILLY SUNDAY JUST WANT A RESPONSE, RAN OUT OF STUFF TO PUBLISH ON THIS BULLSHIT WEB SITE AND HIS DEAD LINE WUZ AROUND THE CORNER AND THIS WUZ HE LAST RESORT

    ATTACK THE SOUTHEN ARTIST CAUSE HE HATES THE SOUTH MUSIC JUST LIKE TIM HARDAWAY HATES FAGS

    SURE, WE HATE WHAT WE HATE AND WE TRY TO CONDITION OUR MIND NOT TO BUT IT JUST WON’T WORK

    BILLY SUNDAY HATES SOUTHERN RAP LIKE I HATE DIP SET AND G-UNIT

    A BETTER SIDE OF US TRY TO GIVE SUMTHIN THE BENIFIT OF DOUBT

    BUT I CAN’T FORCE MYSELF TO LIKE CAMRON OR FIFTY

    JUST LIKE BILLY CAN’T SIT DOWN AND LISTEN TO A T.I CD OR A LIL WAYNE OR LUDACRIS

    AS QUICKLY HE FORGOT

    THE SOUTHERN ARTIST IS GOING PLATNIUM

    NOT EAST COAST

    THE SOUTHERN ARTIOST IS WINNING GRAMMYS (THREE 6 MAFIA, CHAMILLIONAIRE & LUDA)

    NOT THE EAST COAST

    ITS THE PRIDE OF THE ARROGANT NEW YORKERS WHO DON’T WANT TO GIVE THE PROPER RESPECT TO THE SOUTH CAUSE THEY ARE TAKING OVER HIP HOP

    LOOK AT THE MAJOR LABEL HEADS AND WHERE THEY ARE FROM. THE MAJORITY

    THE SOUTH

    IM TALKING AT BET, MTV ALL THE MAJORS LIKE ISLAND DEF JAM. COLOMBIA. INTERSCOPE, JIVE,

  • Omar

    Southern thugs. y’all all need hugs!

  • EReal

    THE DEVIL Says:

    February 15th, 2007 at 12:37 pm
    BILLY SUNDAY HATES SOUTHERN RAP LIKE I HATE DIP SET AND G-UNIT
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    G-Child, is that you? LMFAO.

    1 hunned.

  • EReal

    Yo devil,
    You rock that Vanilla Ice? He’s from the south, too.
    I know its you G-Child.

    LMAO

  • Sam

    Westside > South
    Eastside > Westside

    Southern rap is the worst kind of rap (worse than swedish rap!), I can barely undetstand those idiots, they don’t talk about a subject, they just rap, about anything, if it’s a love song they can bring in all kinds of stuff into the song, cows, geese, westcoast and eastcoast music tell stories, they are better lyrically AND
    imo commerically. There’s too many sellouts though (G-Unit *Cough* *Cough*).

  • Rizzop

    You asking for it billy! Alot of south music is ok Scarface, UGK, and outkast are some of the best hip-hop has to offer. I just think if mainstream bullshit is what people want, thats what they will get. We all say we love hip hop but dont demand perfection, but what is said perfection? How can ONE person dictate which hip hop is good and which type i bad? Everyone that like lil wayne wont always De la Soul. You can find a few rappers that speak on the state of our people, its just a matter of finding them. But to blame a whole region for the problem is wrong

  • http://dsf

    thanks for killing hip-hop, southeners.

  • THE DEVIL

    find your own sayin

    hip hop dead

    come on!!!

    nas said that shit and its played out

    hip hop can’t be too much dead he pulling in royalty checks 7 publishing checks.

    they sayin hip hop is dead do to record sales

    that 1mill 2mill and 7, 8 & 9 mill that 50cent, eminem & nelly do world wide is far and gone

    i download all of the people shit i like frm new york

    im not a hater like these new york bitch azz fagots i like some NY shit

    but i will buy young jeezy b4 nas egyptian scholar fake sometime wanna be thug then scholar anyday

    nas tried the thug shit and it didnt work

  • crackavelli

    REGION HATER POINT BLANK. ILL NEVER COMMENT ON YOUR BLOG AGAIN. HAHA

  • whatever246

    where did my comment go?

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    Best Blog in XXL history!

    POINT BLANK, PERIOD!

  • Splitdown

    I definitely feel u man but like other people sayin its not just them.Its all over.Some of these niggaz comin out deserve to be hung for the garbage they puttin out.But at the same time its our fault because we steady listenin to it.So it goes both ways

  • http://www.hiphopgame.com/index2.php3?page=tracks1 iLL Change

    >> In the words of the Great Pimp C “Quit Hatin The South”!!! The ball is in our court

    ^ so do somethin productive. instead of beats with 2 sounds and the simplest rhymes known to man, make good muzik about real shit. Trae did it wit “Smile” that joint that had Styles P on it. stop rappin about trends and cars for an entire album. you wanna say ‘thats our culture, cars and partying is what we do.’ if thats the case, you lost and youre doin a good job proving it, cuz if those are your values, youre not gonna be gettin anywhere any time soon.

  • Hip Hop since 79′

    what about Dead Prez?

  • rec

    I must admit this is pretty weak Mr. Sunday. What’s with all the negativity?!

  • Rizzop

    Since when you gotta be a thug with no brain?

  • RLAUREN

    always hatin’ on da south….when are people gonna realize it’s all entertainment!!?! yes hip hop is a culture…a way of life, but it also changes.. clothing styles, topics, dances, what reigons are hot at da moment, etc…ny need to grow da fuck up…and let niccas have they shine..

  • The Leak

    I was gonnna write a long ass response dissecting your ignorant ass but honestly Billy Sunday you aint worth it, and real talk I pray that u find this blog intro and read it aloud. The South is what the fuck it is. We aint tryin to change and rap like yall lying mobb affiliated, babino, moons and stars ass clowns, and no respect to jigga nas big pun wu tang or any of them lyrical niggaz cause thats a nice style but dont diss us for being real and true about what we do and who are.

    If you think the south is just parties and dumbed down shit then you just listening to what the radio has to say. You should have more fuckin sense than that but I dont honestly know u so fuck u. You might be on to something but the way you presented it made you come across like a fuckin chump.

    IN THE IMMORTAL WORDS OF CEE-LO GREEN OF GOODIE MOBB OF 1998′S STILL STANDING TRACK 3 “FLY AWAY”

    “WHEN WE ON YO SIDE OF TOWN, WE DONT ASK Y, WE ABIDE BY THE RULES THAT YALL LIVE BY, AND SEE YOU WELCOMED TO COME, YOU WELCOMED TO STAY BUT IF YOU DISRESPECT WE WILL MAKE YO ASS FLY AWAY!!!”

    translation: we respect yo shit, if you cant respect ours you need to stay the fuck away.

  • Fabo

    It aint even that serious man, Just another salty old dude from NYC. If you actually look at what someone like T.I. for example has done for his community you might have a different perspective on all this “grow up and be a man” type shit.

    Who are all these non-southern artists you would rather be listening to? Hip Hop is just entertainment man. You need to pay more attention to what people do and less on the lyrics to their party single.

    I know you are probably just trying to set the blogging world on fire anyways, and you got me posting so i guess you are doing your job. I usually enjoy your posts, but this one is just some baiting ass shit. Try harder next time.

  • >>>>>>>>ROC

    wow….somebody finally spoke the fuckin truth………word up!!!!!

  • leethepee

    why do hate on other people’s glory that whats wrong with niggas like you and not black people u r like a crab in a bucket when one tries to make it out someone is pulling them back in. Quit hating!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • leethepee

    why do u hate on other people’s glory that whats wrong with niggas like you and not black people. u r like a crab in a bucket when one tries to make it out someone is pulling them back in. Quit hating!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • YOUNG STUNNA

    stupid weezy is from the south and he is the best rapper alive.

  • Real

    Nigga, stop hating on the south. The East coast was rapping about materialistism first like Run DMC “My Adidas”. Do yo fucking research, it real southern rappers rapping about real shit like Z-ro & Trace. Oh yeah, becuz someone from the east coast doesn’t make his/her ass a real hip hop artist. Fat Joe, Biggie, Puffie, Lil Kim, Foxy Brown, 50 cent, Lloryll Banks, etc. All rap about materialism and sex. U is right about current situation of rap music but it not the South fault. Before u start dissing and blaming my region for all the crisis in rap music. Do yo research bitch.

  • Real

    Nigga, stop hating on the south. The East coast was rapping about materialistism first like Run DMC “My Adidas”. Do yo fucking research, it real southern rappers rapping about real shit like Z-ro & Trace. Oh yeah, becuz someone from the east coast doesn’t make his/her ass a real hip hop artist. Fat Joe, Biggie, Puffie, Lil Kim, Foxy Brown, 50 cent, Lloryll Banks, etc. All rap about materialism and sex. U is right about current situation of rap music but it not the South fault. Before u start dissing and blaming my region for all the crisis in rap music. Do yo research b$tch.

  • DEEE

    Nigga, stop hating on the south. The East coast was rapping about materialistism first like Run DMC “My Adidas”. Do yo f6cking research, it real southern rappers rapping about real shit like Z-ro & Trace. Oh yeah, becuz someone from the east coast doesn’t make his/her ass a real hip hop artist. Fat Joe, Biggie, Puffie, Lil Kim, Foxy Brown, 50 cent, Lloryll Banks, etc. All rap about materialism and sex. U is right about current situation of rap music but it not the South fault. Before u start dissing and blaming my region for all the crisis in rap music. Do yo research

  • whoop di whoop

    half ya niggas in here don’t know the difference between hiphop and Rap!!!!!!!!!!!

  • M

    I was not impressed with Billy’s posts until the last week, and this one definitely marks his official entry as my favorite blogger on this site. I don’t think using the South strictly as the focus of this post was smart; rappers all over the country are guilty of the same. But god-damn, isn’t it good to see a blogger who really CARES about hip-hop, even if he was a tad off point? I’ll take passionate and slightly askew over focused and almost completely uninterested anyday (Bol). If you cannot understand why hip-hop looks completely ridiculous today, then you are probably pretty ridiculous yourself.

    Oh, and by the way, if LIVEFROMTHE225 is still around:

    “in closing clown, writing blogs about the South for shock value DOES NOT undermine poor writing ability”

    I don’t think you meant to use the word “undermine” here.

  • Little Miss Memphis

    Dude, you lost me at “think outside the box”.

    You’re not seriously gonna begin an essay on why something sucks and then use some tired worn-out cliché in an attempt to illustrate the supposed lack of inspirational lyrics?!

    Looks like you need step up your own lyrical game, jackass.

    The New York scene doesn’t set trends anymore. Get over it.

    Further, if you’d remove your bitter,whiney head out of your ass, you might discover some incredible music that you’ve been too lazy and pretentious to seek out.

  • M.E.M.P.H.I.S. stand up

    You tell ‘em Lil Miss Memphis! That is the TRUTH.

    These shit-talking fools just listen to popular radio and watch MTV like good little corporate drones and they don’t have the first f-cking clue about the complexities of regional music scenes or what’s happening underground in the South.

    And by the way, Fuck Nas. That shit is BORING.

  • Unothename

    This is true. Southern hip-hop generally sucks crap. The lyrics are dumb as hell and simple. The beats tend to be basic. The videos are stupid and corny. Scarface,Outkast and some others are decent but that is it. You see, it was always the South that ruined hip-hop becuase the South is country – it’s not urban. New York hip-hop was always the purest and realest, becuase it was street and had a Caribbean-influence with bass and the hardness. It was urban music. It was street. And then, they started mixing it with R&B for Southerners. That’s when the problem started. The west coast had Dr. Dre, ICe Cube and Cypress Hill, but that stuff still sounds urban and hard. And then, Detroit and Chicago came and they still stayed more true to what hip hop was all about. But most Southern music sucks, man. They wouldn’t know grafitti or breakdancing from anything else. They mix too much R&B with hip-hop too. And it’s not urban enough. It’s just too country.

  • Zach

    First of all, everybody knows that rap started on the east coast. the east coast held it down for years and get mad respect for that. But what i dont understand is now that the craze has shifted below the mason-dixon everybody wanna hate. Artists down south are the real hustlas. They dont need a major record deal to go big fast, dem boys recorded they shit on gray maxwell tapes, put they shit in the trunk and went to the club and started distributing. if anything, they should get respect for the grind. The hood know talent, and you either got it or you dont. Yall gotta give respect where respect is due. While ya’ll east coast muthafucka hate on us, you really hating on yourself. Quit hating the south for doing our thang, all yall doing is taking the place of all the white folks hatin on the east coast when it first started. I see ya’ll on 106 and park trying to freestyle and ya’ll muthafuckas cant advance unless yall talkin down on one another. east coast hasnt been good since jay-z retired and he had to cum back cause yall was shaming him. yall need to stop hating and lets all get this paper. yall need to listen to “Knockin Doors Down” by Pimp C and get yall head fat wit knowledge. yall on yall period up there, country rap tunes bitches! its yall fault yall shit aint selling, we fuckin yall pussy and yall go like it!! SOUTH TEXAS MUTHAFUCKA THATS WHERE I STAY!! LAND OF THE TRILL PORT ARTHUR TEXAS!!!

  • WESTCOAST_NIGGA

    FUCK THE MUTHAFUCKIN SOUTH THEY MUSIC SUCK LIKE SHYT FUCK YALL LIL MARK AZZ BITCHES!

  • http://myspace.com/djswagga832 DJ SWAGGA

    I AGREE WIT DEEZ NUTTZ FUCK DA EAST COAST IF YALL GOT SUMTHIN SLICK 2 SAY BOUT DA SOUTH DATS WHY HIP HOP IZ DEAD CUZ YALL NEW YORK NIGGAZ WORRYIN BOUT WUT DA FUCK ERR BODY ELSE IZ DOIN JUST SHUT DA FUCK UP AND STICK 2 YA OWN SHIT DEN MAYBE JUST MAYBE HIP HOP WOULDNT BE DEAD AND BESIDES DA SOUTH DO GOT SUM THROWED AZZ LYRICIST YALL JUST 2 CLOSE MINDED 2 SEE DAT YALL HATE ANY THING DAT DONT COME OUTTA NEW YORK WHEN DA TRUTH IZ NEW YORK RAP GETTIN KINDA WACK 2 SO DONT BLAME DA SOUTH 4 YALL NOT PUSHIN UNITS HOMMIE

    REAL LYRICIST FROM DA SOUTH
    GANGSTA PAT
    ME “DJ SWAGGA”
    TOMMY WRIGHT
    LUDA
    T-ROCK
    KAMI KAZE
    MYSTIKAL
    AND DA LIST GOES ON PLAYBOI

    700 HUNDRED BARZ OF SIN,DROPPIN A RHYME ERR TYME/
    WHEN I DIE,IN DA WALLZ MY DEAD BODY IZ WHAT YOU’LL FIND/
    FUNK FROM A LYRICIST,DEEP IN MY ROTTED BONEZ/
    IN MY MOUF GOLD TEETH,IN MY HAND A RUSTED TONE/
    BACK IN DA FLEAH AHS 2 ASHES WATCH ME BUST SUMTHIN/
    I MAY BE WICKED TRICK BUT I CAN STILL KICK IT/
    WIT MY NIGGAZ DATS DOWN WIT A 187 MURDA RAP/
    QUICK 2 PEAL YA CAP BACK,LEAVE YA BRAINZ ON YO LAP/
    AHHHHHH FUCK I THANK IM GOIN OUTTA MY MIND/
    BITCH MY NINE IN DA RIVER AINT NO TELLIN WHAT YOU’LL FIND/
    SO NIGGAZ DIG YO GRAVE & WELCOME 2 A NEW ERA/
    BREATHIN UP DAT FUNK,MIGHT HAVE U FUNKY HOEZ IN TERROR/
    SO FRY UP DAT MAH FUCKIN INK/
    & WATCH A NIGGA CAUSE HAVOC LIKE ITS FRIDAY DA 13th/
    GOT MY JASON MASK WHEN I BLAST HOPE YOU’LL LAST/
    IF U SMELL FUMEZ IN YO TRUNK WHEN IT BUMP STRAIGHT SINISTA FUNK/

  • http://myspace.com/mesk62 Brooklyn Kell

    I could have not said it better my self, They make it out to be hatered for southern music. I don’t hate the game, I hate garbage ass lyrics and GM ads or 4 minute tracks about grillz…Bullshit!!

  • southern dyme

    Everyone complains about the south. but what are east coast rappers putting out? GARBAGE!! so we don’t have a choice but to listen to what’s hot right now. Lil’ Wayne, T.I. etc. These rappers have been hot, ya’ll are just taking notice. top albums are T.I.-I’m Serious, Outkasrt-Southernplayeristicadillacmusic, Field Mob-Ashy to Classy, Juvenile- 400 Degreez, Young Jeezy-Thug Motivation, Clipse-Lord Willin’ etc. etc. Quit crying. ya’ll can’t keep talking about the same subject all the time. Ghostface can’t still rap about clark’s and dookie ropes and 4 finger rings. Diddy adapted, Jay-Z, Fat Joe and even Juelz. step up your game and get creative. The south has always been flamboyant and cocky, ya’ll fell off!!

  • #1 Hater hurter

    when will you niggas realize and except it that the east is fuckin DEAD. And To Nigga aint shit was street about New York until Lox came out New York went mainstream before anybody. Jay-Z money aint a thang, big pimpin, is that yo chick ,
    Nas with OOCHIE FUCKIN WALLY, WTF! The only nigga that had real street cred from all coast out NEW YORK was LOX because JADA been said before New York Was DEAD that REAL RAP DONT SELL. East Coast music killed itself. Dont blame the south. New York hasnt had a credible artist since BIG and PUN. Jay-z always made club tracks, Nas once again that OOCHIE WALLY shit that nobody brings up. When you niggas going to realize that the south isnt the problem Listen to a Z-Ro, Listen to Soulja Slim, Listen to MAC, Listen to Trae, I mean really listen to they shit. REAL RAP DONT SELL. Nuff said. NY were the first SELLOUTS IN HIPHOP. AND remember just because it was started in the east THERE IS NO ONE GREATER THAN PAC

  • #1 Hater hurter

    All these dudes thats on here hating are in there 30s or close to it. Thats a damn shame. You have nothing to do with ya fucking lifes. If you dont see that NY is wack as fuck now.

    CURRENT NY RAPPERS that are fucking up the game:

    MIMS
    DJ WEBSTAR
    TONY YAYO
    FAT JOE
    MASE give it up and retire
    CAMRON
    JIM JONES
    TRU LYFE
    MC SERCH SELLOUT for agreeing to do a WHITE RAPPER SHOW for the money
    KRS ONE- OLD ass should of left on a good note. UGLY ass mad cuz he aint making money.
    P Fuckin DIDDY
    I can go on and on about these wacks out of NY.
    MAKE A FUCKING BLOG ABOUT THAT. All u niggas hating on the south but wont wont bring ya bitch asses to the south and talk shit so shut the fuck up

  • Mike D

    It’s not ALL the south’s fault…It’s the SUITS…the corporations dicatating what we should listen to…it’s a conspiracy to dumb down society!

    Conspiracy Theory #1: Easier to make crap than rap.
    - If the corprations decided to start pushing Mos Def (and other lyrically-gifted rappers), southern rappers would step their game up lyrically.

    Since Biggie and Pac, the industry’s lost millions of dollars trying to bring up the next big thing, in terms of lyricism/pure talent…but they failed, therefore gave up their quest on finding the “next one”…

    which leads me to…
    Conspiracy theory #2: “If we can’t find anyone SMART enough to replace Biggie and Pac, then let’s promote DUMB!”
    -With the east and west still mourning over BIG and Pac, to this very day… they decided to take the spotlight off intelligence, creativity, and lyricsm, and put it on…THE OPPOSITE OF ALL THAT.

    Which region was best suited to carry out the orders?
    a) the region that has the most poor, dumb, uneducated, unemployed, incestuous,and ignorant people, b) the region that has the most big-booty-women, and, c) the LEAST threatening region, in terms of actual talent/whits…they decided that the south were the perfect candidates to promote stupidity…sad but true.

    Conspiracy Theory#3 : Economics…CRAPPY PRODUCTS ARE EASIER TO REPLACE…
    That’s why they’re feeding us crap MC’s. So if ever the next “hot” rapper dies, he’s easily replaced.

    And if any intelligent rappers come about, they will get no airplay/exposure, or will be disposed of quickly.

  • Texas Born and Raised

    Say man, this shit out of New york is dead. It is past ya’ll time, it is the south’s time. we have been putting in work for a long time and it finally our time to shine. Talin about lyrics, what is that ya ya shit busta rhyumes and them was talking about, what is wu tang, they had their own slang just like the south and they put it on blast and it was hot.. now the south is coming up with new words and new slangs and now its’a problem… boys been doing this a long long time but we didn’t have the publicity that the east and west coast had. DJ Screw from Houston, Texas revolutionized the game for Texas and put young n*ggas out the ghetto in the game. I live the south and love the south and I’m going to die in the South, but B, yo money, god, son, whatever you wanna be called it’s our time to shine and we are not going to stop. I love some cats from new york, don’t give me wrong like jay z and big L (R.I.P)

  • GirlInterrupted

    DUDE!!! I actually thought I was the only fucking one in this world who noticed that it was ironic when Ludacris made a song about a girl running away after making those shitty “pussy popping” songs!!!! I agree with most of what you put here, just not the way you mentioned “Southern”. Trashy rap can be anywhere.

  • Brad Farris

    I’ll tell you why Southern Rap “sucks so bad” it is because that is what people down here like to listen to. Perhaps it would be useful to reevaluate what your definition of sucks is. People like to have that tick tick followed by that bump to quote Outcast who you so much admire. Although as an admirer of creative innovative music (of which hip hop seems to be the only outlet that has some validity left on the radio) I would like to see a return to the creative mindset that spawned the new dominance of hip hop in mainstream media it is unlikely to happen. Why because it is the mainstream media and they will play whatever makes the most money. And since people seem to like the crappy mindless boring stripper songs, they will continue to be made until we get bored of it. But you have to hand it to the South we tend to come up with the creative efforts for the rest of the country from blue grass, to Jazz, to Rock and Roll, so before you hate too much on us, remember where America keeps it’s soul.

  • C-RUSS (Detroits Finest)

    FINALLY!! Somebody told the TRUTH!!!

    What it comes down to is pride. Of course people from the South are naturally going to Defend their home Turf regardless of how the music sounds. Now me Being from Detroit, a few of you from New York, we all see the same thing. Its not so much that the South is Whack and Bad, its that for the good artists you do come out of the South, you incorporate the profitable “Pop” artists who come out with their Snap albums and their half ass written lyrics with the Really talented Artists. TI, Ludacris, UGK, Outkast, all get my respect as good Artists but I think when your not from the south and you think of Souther Rap, then you automatically think of Whack Ni&&as like Dem Franchise Boyz, D4L, BHI, DJ Unk and all those who make “Fad” music. They get alot more attention because thats all you here now days comin from the South. I think when you look at places like New York, Detroit, Philly, Chicago and Cleveland, we all are doing the same when it comes to tryin to get respect as a city with Talented Artists. I think we look at it as “Why is the South gettin so much air time when they have all these Whack ni&&as who make garbage “Fad” music that sounds repetitive. It also seems like down South, anybody can get a deal and thats discouraging to Midwest and East Coast Artist because our music styles are different and its not that simple in our cities. We have to come with some really good Sh_T to even be considered into the radio rotation. Bottom line is that The South does have its Talent from a select few, But those few are overshadowed by their Overly Commercial counterparts. ATL should have limited how many “Snap” and “Fad” Artists were going to come out of there.

  • T-Vine

    See..I knew I was not the only one..The Dirty South has made a mockery of hip hip..they are not hip hop..their music should just be called,”Dirty.” Anytime you make a song and you keep rhyming “man” with “man,” that means you have limited lyrical capabilities and you are totally ignorant and basically “ain’t sayin nothin.” When will it stop. It’s embarassing what’s depicted of women and even young men in their videos and I can’t fault white people for making fun of how ignorant some black people choose to represent themselves. If you are wearing “grillz” with a nappy afro and smokin weed like it’s what’s up..and you brag about all the $$ you have..and are making top selling records..then why be ashamed when “educated” white America makes fun of your monkey A$$!! I am even ashamed of Puffy for selling out!! How you go from Biggy to …”meet me at the mall..it’s going down?” Insulting or What? I am in my early 30′s and I refuse to take part in this mess..Yes the 30 year olds have had the opportunity to experience the BEST of HIP HOP and are now watching it take a downward spiral…but I think we may be part of the problem because it’s our children who are listening, supporting, and imitating this music (for me my nieces and nephews)..But they don’t have jobs so where do they get money to buy all this garbage..? “Self Destruction..We’re Headed for Self Destruction!!)

    – I won’t pitch to a batter of nonsense, when I don’t flow on, it builds on my conscience–
    “True Hip Hopper for Life”
    See ya at the Movement!

  • T-Vine

    On Point Billy..thank you so much!

  • T-Vine

    See..I thought it was just me. I don’t even consider that garbage that comes from the Dirty South, “hip hop,” it should just be called, “Dirty.” Any time you rhyme, “man” with “man” you obviously lack lyrical capabilities, and you sound, dumb and ignorant. Ok that’s just wack, basically you just talkin and ain’t sayin’ nothin’! Their depiction of just gutter..black women shakin’ and looking utterly sleezy and black men tryin to look hard..Why but somehow just look ignorant..Even after all the questions.I sill don;t know what Mike Jones is famous for..(who is mike jones?) And no I don’t blame white “educated” college students for making mockery by wearing “grillz,” nappy fros, hoochie pants, wife beaters, and smokin blunts because true..it looks ridiculous! Why then are we mad aren’t we makin’ money, rolling on fo fos, making money by selling millions of wack records..why are we ashamed? This is who we are isn’t it? Isn’t this what’s real on the streets so you say? And one day those same white kids are going to be Sony interns and eventually record label execs making mad money off yall monkey A$$es! So then who are the Real Pimps and who is getting pimped playas from the South? And yes their are perpetrators from the North ie..Puffy but Puff is a Business man and once again’ yall gettin’ pimped. How you goin to go from Biggy to “meet me at the mall..it’s going down.”
    Those like me in their 30′s have experienced the Best of Hip, however, it’s our children who are drawn in by the garbage that’s coming from the South..But we are also part to blame..most of our kids don’t have jobs so where do they get the money to keep wack rappers in business??
    Sucka MC’s you must retire!
    –Self Destruction..We’re headed for Self Destruction–Peace!

    ‘I won’t pitch to a batter of nonsense.. when I don’t flow on it builds on my conscience’
    Billy Sunday, I’ll see you at the Revolution! You said it cuz!

  • napi boyz

    thats what dirty south music is about. thats what it is you idiot. why you think there music is called dirty south. its because its bout guns,hoes,drugs,fame, and the most important thing is its a club banger.
    kNoe yO FaWKin RooTz!

  • napi boyz

    i gots to agree with sum a des guyz cuz dey right. i aint frum da durty but that east coast and west coast shit is done. the south is just keepin hip hop alive today and thats a fact.

  • T-Vine

    I hear you Napi and that’s the point, they do have a buzz, but if you are going to respect the true essence of hip hop and not necessarily where it originated, but why and all the creativity that was displayed by our family in the game, I’m talking originality then you have to admit that anyone who is truly representing Hip Hop must come correct. Also Napi, I have problem believing that it’s ok to accept that the Best that I can and should expect from “my people” in the South is guns, hoes, drugs, and fame. There was a point that was brough out earlier that the Civil Rights Movement began in the South. If I’m not mistaken not too long ago white folks were shooting black folks with guns, black women were reduced to nothing by the white man being rapped, molested and killed. Drugs were introduced into Society as a means to keep our militant negroes from rebelling against them with their guns and the most famous black person at that time was Martin Luther King.. 40 years later..Black folks killing black folks, black men degrading black women in thier music as a means to get paid by white folks, and the biggest thing black folks in known for by white folks is that we just straight up ignorant.. That’s why the South gotta step it up. I forgive you for calling me an idiot but we have to get past the club. What the South is doing is not Hip-Hop that’s gangster rap and not only that..I’ll give it to you the music sometimes be bumpin’ but the lyrics are Whack come on. I’m not from NY either but I can’t call what’s coming out of the South right now legit it’s straight up corny and unecessary. At least if they have to make the music keep it in their local clubs, backyards, and hoods and stop polluting national radio. Give us something we can rock to… It’s not about East Coast West Coast because the East Coast can’t put nothing out right because they can’t get nothing off now a days if it’s not about trash then the True Hip Hoppers go underground.. That’s all I’m saying Napi…listen to the lyrics and break them down one time for your mind cuz..Peace! I ain’t mad atch!

  • bottom boi g

    WTF!! First off T-VINE you in ya 30′s the last thing you need to be worried about is what region is hot in hip hop right now. Thats like when you wree young and hip hop was in its starting stages and the older generation was saying all that hip hop mess is trash real music is marvin gaye, lenny williams, temptations, etc. You call the south ignorant when you are very ignorant yourself to not look and see that its not about what region you from times have just changed. The pop singles that you call dj unk, dfb,d4l. they had the #1 singles in the country not just the south. Therefore letting you know that the hip hop generation now is into more dancing, more upbeat, more 808s. To the new generation of hip hop old school artist are boring. The are old. But they still make music for your pleasure. You can say all the bad stuff you want about the south, but hip hop lives in the south, it evolves in the south. MIMs from New york but made a down south type track and became #1 single in country. You old heads are not hip hop anymore, you are old school. Grow up. Hip hop when you were coming up was more about lyrics punchlines and metaphors, but now its not all about who found the most words in a dictionary. Thats the real deal. SO basically you old school cats are supposed to hate the new school hip hop era now. Its all apart of you getting old.

  • GirlInterrupted

    any hip-hop song that has anything to do with hoes, drugs, *rich gangsters*, and other bullshit, are bad rap. I’ll have to agree though, those songs shouldn’t even be called hip-hop AT ALL!! ’cause those kind of songs are big fucking disgrace to hip-hop, they should just be labeled trash. Southside isn’t the only one bumping this kind of bullshit, so no one should be hipicrits. I mean, there are fucking kids listening to these radio stations, I hear them reciting lines that have to do with taking drugs. I’m not sure if they even know what fuck they’re saying, but imagine when they keep this up in the future.

  • Robert Oneil

    I definitely understand your blog. The truth is however, very few artists that attempt to go outside of the box is “entertaining”. I always thought, even though a song has more substance, it doesn’t mean that it’s fun to listen to. I think hip hop needs to get out of the same subject matters but then again keep it fun. That’s a challenge that a lot of artists are afraid to do because it seems like the record labels (A&Rs) aren’t allowing different material because it doesn’t seem marketable due to the fact that they’re afraid it could be boring. Mainstream artists such as lupe fiasco are trying to bring something different and it is entertaing but the ablum isn’t selling enough. Still, I think hip hop needs more of that as far as the mainstream. If Hip Hop has more artists like that then I think the hip hop has a brighter future. Hopefully artists will bring something new, but the key word is “entertaining”. Because if I wanted to hear something positive but it isn’t really entertaining, I would have had the experience reading a book… In my opinion, more substance doesn’t have to be boring and that’s what the hip hop industry is afraid of. Make it fun like it used to be. That’s what hip hop started out as. As long as the subject matter is cool, keep the hot beats as well. Why can’t we just have both?!!

  • Robert Oneil

    Oh, and when I see a video I want to see some special effects, some artistic value that’s new.lol. That’s something that some of these hip hop videos are missing. See, if “gangsta” is seen as keeping it real on tv, the youth will start folling it. If we can change the image but make it exciting then we wouldn’t see this “gansta” image and mentality in our youth. I mean, cars and girls are cool but I can get that outside. When I see a music video I want to say “now that was profound”. Just saying, hip hop just needs to broaden their horizons. Either it’s boring or negative. bringing something positive and entertaining is the key. Life is too short for some bullshit.

  • GirlInterrupted

    goddamn. I’ll have to agree with Whoop di Whoop all the way, half of you guys don’t know the difference between rap and hip-hop! read these lyrics from top all the way to the bottom, it’ll tell you the difference.

    Artist: Nujabes

    Title: THINK DIFFERENT
    Written by: S. Robinson (2000)

    (VERSE 1)
    You bust lead? So do I.
    Except mine impregnates the page giving birth to thoughts that unify You fuck little girls. I make love to women
    My words uplift, yours are poisonous like venom
    Im an M.C. Youre a rapper
    Im as real as they come,
    while half the guys you idolize are just actors
    You run from commitment I remain loyal
    You call women bitches. I call them queens because they’re royal You make rap songs I make soul music!
    When god speaks through rhythm will you go to it?
    I save my cash yours you blow through it
    I say your childs special you say hes so stupid
    Im pouring my heart out in everything written
    You’re scared you’ll look soft heart remains hidden
    On touchy subjects nerves I stay hittin’
    I aint better than you I just think different

    (HOOK)
    Is the glass half full or half empty?
    It’s based on your perspective quite simply
    We’re the same and we’re not know what I’m saying listen
    I aint better than you I just think different
    (REPEAT HOOK)

    (VERSE 2)
    My fam run things, while you run your jewelry
    My people pop lock you tough guys pop toolies
    You rock gems I drop gems you Xerox copying
    While I originate material to stimulate
    Positive thought patterns when the chosen start gathering
    We bar none, sun I got jokes you are one
    Im out doing it while you talk about it
    Im constantly in the mix, while you walk around it
    You try, i do Im wise youre clueless.
    I get the job done you fail and make excuses
    Im a gentlemen youre behaviors abusive
    Im patient… youre jumping the gun false start!
    Youre caught up in dress codes Ill shop at Walmart
    Sucker Im all heart youre half hearted!
    You cats is vandals we graf artist!
    Thought you had the last laugh but we laugh hardest.

    (HOOK)

    (VERSE 3)
    You fall in love with body parts I connect mentally
    With my female counterpart before we bond physically
    Cats I chill with rap about revolution
    While you rap about drug abuse and distribution
    You wanna be like Mike well I wanna be me.
    My queen’s hard to obtain while yours is easy
    We both from Maryland but be reppin DC
    We all front sometimes that’s how MCs be
    My word is bond and yours is worthless
    You’re mainstream I’m beneath the surface
    I stay working hard while you’re hardly workin’
    All you want is “money and you’re dick sucked” are you certain?
    I want a better world for our seeds to live in.
    I put faith in myself not the system
    Yo we trying to travel so why you making pit stops?
    You cats is rap and I’m HipHop!

    Hook

    Fin.

  • T-Vine

    BOTTOM BOI G..Hip was different when I grew up but you know what..it’s not about the difference in metaphors and lyrical punchlines…and I don’t believe there was a comparison btw hip hop and marving gaye and the old school R&B because their was level of respect for REAL music, by hip hoppers, thus all those mad samples from Marvin, Nina Simone, Barry White, James Brown, and others. We appreciated them for their contributions, and they are still HOT! It’s about what hip hop should not become. It should not become a voice or stage to declare the legitamacy of illegal drug use, teenage sex pregancies and STD’s, a way to show the world how I can disrespect myself, my hood, and my race by makig songs that use blatant descriptive language that is demeaning..and that says women are coochie poppin’ hoes and black men are drug slangin, black on black criminals that don’t give a F^Ck just because..That’s ignorant on every level..and that is how the music from the South is being interpreted by Blacks..and because this music is maintstream now and selling Whites categorize the majority of Blacks in this way. Why now all of a sudden Barrack Obama is surprisingly, intelligent and articulate? That’s because all they know of blacks is that, “cuz weez ridin’ on 40′s mayne..cuttin’ bricks mayne… hittin’B*tches from the back mayne…bust a cap in a niggas A$$ man..” (WTF) and it leaves us at a disadvantange in Society. The reality of it is now we have little girls in middle of school going down on young thugs in the bathrooms at school..droppin it like it’s hot..There are more gangs in the suburbs and the younger generation thinks this is cool ’cause we just be bumpin in the club.’ That’s ignorant and the young need to become more socially aware or realize an economic disadvantage in the future. Basically the South should be representing more in a different way..Help all of us not hurt us! Bottom BOI G.. you are the future..stand up and demand better from the STREETS G!

  • Mike Cox

    So because the south is getting the majority of air time right now it destroys the whole hip-hop game? Southern rap…is called southern rap for a reason, its a southern thing. Its not the same sound as the west coast, mid-west, or up north. These different regions dont have the depth in artist as they once had (no disrespect, just the obvious truth). But now that the south has talented artist such as T.I., Luda,Wayne and so on…its the south fault that hip-hop game is the way it is today huh? You right it is, but its nothing wrong with todays rap game yo, its a different generation who desires a differnt sound. A lot of people dont like it, a lot of people do. But does that not apply to just about every aspect of life? Souther rap has not been hot forever,its fairly new, its something that took awhile for its acceptance, but that applies to everything, music, food, fashion, religion, culture. Everything does not get accepted right away, but now that its here, and a younger generation seems to enjoy it, its not going anywhere fast. I know for a fact everyone who seems to be anit-southern rap has a rap album of some southern rapper, rather if its on your computer, in you I Pod, or in the car everyone has one. Even the majority of white youth now and days. So if souther rap is reaching out beyond its culture, why is that a problem? How could it be possible that a few artist in one region of the country destroys the whole entire industry? Because people like it? Because people buy it? Is this not what its half about, making music people enjoy? Kayne Seems to be a the top of the charts all the time, Lupe came out of nowhere, The Game is coming out strong, Jay still doing his thing. Yall act like its only southern rappers who are doing it big man. Hip-Hop has a variety of sounds, is not one dimensional. Wayne, Jay, The Game, 50 Cent, Jeezy, Luda, everybody has a different sound Pick one or more a love it, but dont bash one just because its different and on the come up.

  • bottom boi G

    T-VINE how could you blame that on the south. If you saying rapping about money cars hoes and clothes is whats killin hip hop then hip hop was dead way before the south killed it mayne. BIG Jay-Z even Nas has made countless songs about those subjects. Westcoast rap has originated Gangsta rap. Jay-z and BIG both started out hustling in the streets to start rapping and thats what they rapped about. So I say if this is what kills hip hop then sorry but hip hop been dead. The south just brings more energy to these subjects. because hustlin, violence, crime exist everywhere rather you like it or not.
    For you to have a grudge with the south saying the south is immature. The south didnt start the huge cocaine era in the 80s the south didnt push that gangstafied music out until no limit. before then it was SCARFACE and getoboys, 2 live crew, outkast. So you arguement about the south is still not legit to me. Im not disrespecting you just stating the facts.

  • fuckouttahere

    THE SOUTH HAS KILLED HIP HOP WITH THEIR “HICK” ACCENTS, CASIO KEYBOARD BEATS AND BY NOT BEING ABLE TO SPIT ANY RYMES! FUCK YOU INBREAD HICKS!

  • http://xxlmag.com ChiSly

    SHUT Y’ALL COUNTRY ASSES UP, and WAKE THE FUK UP to what dude’s REALLY trying to say! The truth is cutting y’all asses like a RAZOR, which is why ya now got ya panties all packed up ya asses, rantin’ and raving on the defense!

    Y’all keep talkin’ ’bout how the South is the only ones “holdin’ it down”, when it actuality, y’all the ones BRINGIN’ IT DOWN! That’s why sales in hip-hop have slipped so dramatically, and even the OG listeners of hip-hop have let go the culture that THEY (NOT YOU) derived from! …Now, y’all wanna call us “old” (when did 30 become “old”?) and talk about it’s for the children of today …Well, you tell me, WHAT THE FUK are children doing listening to shit about strip clubs and all that other “bullshit” y’all wanna say is just “party music”? …And WHEN did “partying” become just about getting “crunk” and laid? That’s the only muthafukkin’ way y’all know how to party, or somethin’? …We had party songs, too! But they weren’t all about fukkin hoes and gettin’ “crunk”!

    ..And yeah, our parents would harp on how their music was much better than ours (which was just THE TRUTH, deep down), but you know what? Even if we disagreed with them (on how our music was good music, too), we KNEW not to disrespect such genious, original artists such as Marvin Gaye and Curtis Mayfield (which is a WHOLE NUTHA genre of music, may I remind you)! …We had MAD RESPECT for the originators in black music! …But here y’all country asses go, dissing NEW YORK (and POSITIVE, pioneer artists such as KRS1, even), when they paved the way for y’all House n.iggas who never wanted to move on up and expand (so fukkin’ “comfortable”)! I’m from the MidWest, and regardless of HOW MUCH New York try to say they’re “better” than us, even if I feel the need to defend the Chi, I KNOW not to disrespect the ones who started this shit like that! …Hip-hop is the GHETTO, urban sub-culture, coming from CONCRETE (not “meadows”, and s.hit)!
    Now, I felt the writer was too harsh in just focusing on the South, but y’all proving him right with all of your ign’ant ass comments, crying like some sensitive bitches instead of just giving a rational, intelligent defense/debate and explanation! So, I’ma speak to y’all in the only language you know – FUCK being “considerate”! …And when a mutha fukka can’t give a good debate or argument, they resort to just calling someone that played-out, overly recycled word (hata)!
    And y’all keep using that kindergarten defense, “Well, what about you? ..What about him/her?”, talking about how there are bad rappers in NY, too …But you see, the difference was that although there are rappers in NY who ALSO rap on the negative, and perhaps, just partying (there aint nothin’ wrong with some partying), there were ALSO rappers who rapped on political issues, awareness, love – you see, there was BALANCE bLack-n-the-day! …We had songs that were political, songs that were millitant, songs that were gangsta, songs that were “derrty”, songs that were just about partying/having fun, ..and just those songs (like by Rakim) that just expressed what the artist wanted to express (like, just his lyrical skills, or what was on his/her mind) …Yeah, you may have shook your ass to some L.L (“Big Ol’ Butt”), but you had rappers such as KRS1 to put you back in the right mindset!
    We need BALANCE today – and don’t use that tired-ass excuse about how this is just what “our” generation like, cuz good, balanced music is NEVER “played out”, or “old”! And I may be in my early 30s, but being that this was the music that took off in MY generation, don’t you’d think I’d know a lil’ more about hip-hop than y’all childish asses (still wet under the nose)?
    …And this shouldn’t be limited to an age group, anyways, cuz if you wanna say how this is just what kids like today, then, it’s no wonder y’all kids are so FUCKED UP! …Yeah, NY, the Midwest and the West Coast has it’s negative and positive sides, but what have we heard from the South from the VERY BEGINNING? Songs about ASS (like that’s all the fuk y’all got to think about down there)! …And you can say I’m generalizing, but we generalize when problems get TOO big to individualize, and with the South, y’all are just TOO one-dimensional for me to try to be “politically correct” and considerate with shit! …And it’s not just negative rap, it’s the SAME KIND of negativity! ALL TO DO with “sex, drugs and rock-n-roll”, basically! I love to party and get “crunk”, too (I’ve got a “Booty Essentials” CD with mostly Down South artists on it that I love), but DAYUM! …Don’t y’all got anythang else to rap about? …And how come all that s.hit gotta have some “catch phrase” to it to be a hit? …And then, y’all don’t even use bass, or rhythm in the music any more – just those repetitive, non-creative wak-ass beats that we used to put together (back in the 80s) on Casio synthesizers! ..And it be the SAME A.SS BEAT (different gibberish)! …And you know, I aint got no problem with “Chicken Noodle Soup”, cuz that’s just a fun song for the kids (we, too, had our cartoonish dances, like the Smurf), …as long as it’s decent for them to listen to …When I first heard The Ghetto Boys, I LOVED it (besides the negative messages), because it was something new, ..something different (and I LOVED the Southern accents) …But why has it recently become so damn one-dimensional (ever since Lil Jon, it seems)? I think Outkast and Mystical is some of the BEST from the South, but too many of y’all one-dimension rappers just straight overshadow their contributions! …So, I gotta keep shit real, I can’t be “considerate”, trying not to hurt anyones “feelings”!
    And don’t blame the East Coast for that bullshit that Y’ALL CHOOSE TO put out! ..One minute, y’all wanna say that all that Laffy Taffy bullshit isn’t a true representation of the South, and then the next, you wanna PROCLAIM how that’s just how y’all “represent”, saying how “that’s what we’re about down here!” WHICH THE FUCK IS IT? …At first, I was gonna defend y’all (cuz I KNOW that it really aint just about the South, deep down, but what this money making, jealous industry is doing to ALL rap music), but I’m gonna be disrespectful just as y’all chose to disrespect the “motherland” of rap music! (That’s like white folks taking the music of black folks, and trying to tell us that blacks doing the music WE started is “played out”! WHAT KINDA SHIT IS THAT? ..And then you want some respect? GET THE FUK OUTTA HERE! I aint even from New York, and I know better than to go that mutha fukkin far! …And yes, my family is STRAIGHT from Mississippi! …I’m reppin’ the Chi, but I can even admit to R.Kelly as not being this R&B “genious” everyone’s trying to make him out to be! In fact, even though his songs were good, it was his music that converted love songs to just sex songs! Ya see, I aint no bitch ass punk who can’t handle the truth! And in “I Used to Love Her”, Common didn’t feel the need to harp on the Chi, and he gave MAD PROPS to where this shit started from (which was NY, with origins in the West Indies)! ..WE RECOGNIZE! (DO YOU?)
    But to the mark-ass busta who wanted to dis House music, thinking it’s “gay music” (something people really don’t know the origins about and get confused on), don’t get mad because Chicagoans are more open-minded to music, and we’re beyond just one dimension and aspect of music! Forgive us for having more “imagination”! And the most HARD CORE brotha was listening to House music, cuz they are SECURE in their masculinity, where they don’t feel afraid to listen to music which dumb asses (who don’t know shit about music) wanna call off as “gay”! Only “undercover brothers” are too insecure about their sexuality to listen to the fuk they wanna listen to!

    PEACE, nuccas!

  • T-Vine

    Chisly,
    You said a mouthful..thanks for representin.’

    I hear you Bottom Boi G but “30′s the new 20.” I wonder why? Because we still holdin the true essence of Hip-Hop down. It’s like the Civil Rights movement..”We must not forget our past.” Real Hip Hop is our past, presence, and we are trying to make it our future but just like the young black kids these days, but it seems like we are losing.You make a good point about how certain rappers from NY came out “hardcore.” Gangsta Rap originated on the west coast but where are they now? Dre still droppin’ beats but Snoops lyrics are borderline nursery. Plus not too many grown people consider themselves PIMPS..that’s corny? And look at NAs and JAy they will be the first to tell you that have raised their lyrical content to a new level. They grew up and got better.. their career resulted in something positive. Their message now is positive..at least when you heard their lyrics played on the radio you didn’t have to be embarassed when you had little kids in the car or your crib..But like Chisly said, the South just drives it in a downward spiral and getting away with just constantly saying ignorant, corny, demeaning crap that don’t even rhyme (when did we take the abilty to rhyme out of rap music?)that constantly gets played. I often feel like a captive audience when I turn on the radio and wonder, who in the He!! left the gate open? Who finds this poor excuse for music entertaining? Like Chisly said, it’s one dimensional..I’m just asking them to step it up, lyrically and content wise that’s all. I agree, Outcast first came out hard and guess what they still here. Mystical was straight too..but it seemed like he was overshadowed by that constant country grammar, repetitive hook in place of real lyrics music from the SOUTH (Pedi Pablo WTF!)..”Is this really the way (we) live?”A wise teacher once said,”YOU MUST LEARN!”
    T-Vine 1

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  • http://www.non3.com Nonymous

    In music, one size does not fit all. Everyone has their own priorities and preferences. It’s like spicy food vs. sweet food, what’s better? It depends on who you ask.

    I went to ATL for a week and this was my observation…

    “Most Whites, had nice homes, mediocre cars… most Blacks, had nice cars and mediocre homes.”

    Ya’ll get what i’m sayin? Everyone has different priorities and preferences.

  • bottom boi G

    First off chisly calm yo stupid ass down cuz im always hitting up the chi and the way more people in the chi show the south love than people like you. Listen to what the fuck im saying before you write a essay hating the south. Why the fuck do the way we talk effect the decrease in hip hop. What region talks the same. east coast got they own way they talk, as well as west or midwest. So that bullshit you talking is not making sense. And what I meant about 20s from 30s was that the majority age level that hip hop affects is 16-25.
    most people buying hip hop records or in that age level. most people listening to the radio now are in that age level. So therefore the large record companies are going to appeal to the masses. and for your stupid ass to sit there and say that the south has no balance you dumb fuck just like the intelligent artist up there now gettin radio play the south isnt either. the only people that media play out the south is the dance crazed music. But the south has many lyrical artist, many gangsta artist as well as dance crunk artist. only one is getting play. So if you never never heard a z-ro album, mac album, soulja slim alubm, trae album, nawty boi, mookie, lil brother, e vicious, Killer mike, and many more artist that dont get that much radio play but are lyrical beast. and speak on many different subjects. Stop hating the south, hate the muthafuckas that controls who gets radio play. Cuz if you base it onwhat your hear on radio and tv then the midwest killed hip hop a few years ago when nelly st lunatics, j kwon and chingy came out. Now yall got JIBBS. back in the days the south and midwest had love everybody down here was jammin that curcial conflict do or die and twista. everybody up there was on tha old cash money and other south shit dont say im lying cuz i been there to many times plus have my fams from there. So once again get off the east coast dick and out the south ass. nobody hating on the originators but every voast orginated somthing and contributed to hip hop. East general hip hip, West gangsta hip hop, South crunk hip hop, Midwest fast spitting raps,

    And you hating on the south slang but yall midwest ass with that stupid ass THURRR shit get the fuck on.

  • FUCKOUTTA HERE

    SOUTHERN RAP IS FUCKING GARBAGE, POINT BLANK! NO CREATIVITY, NO TALENT, STUPID COON MUSIC!!!!!!! THE SOUTH HAS BEEN KILLING HIP HOP WITH EVERYTHING IT HAS!!! I HEAR WAY TOO MANY SOUTHERN BITCH HICK BOYS ON HERE CRYING ABOUT NY! SUN IF IT WASENT FOR US THERE WOULD BE NO HIP HOP!!! WE INVENTED IT AND WE REPRESENT IT! WHAT DOES THE SOUTH REPRESENT??? TRAILER PARKS, FARMS, COWS, GOATS, PIGS???? AS LONG AS WE HAVE THIS UNDERSTANDING.

    THE SOUTH MAKES “POP-HOP”

    EAST COAST MAKES “HIP-HOP”

  • Bottom Boi G

    listen here dude. The East Coast is fuckin wack. If you think that all the south is then bring your bad ass down here and see for yourself. Hip Hop lives in the south. What hot artist is out in the east right now thats selling records NONE. Papoose, Saigon, and a coupe young cats is hot but the rest is shitty. ISnt NEW york the same one that came up with the CHICKEN NOODLE SHIT sorry homie thats way more coonish then snappin. What about that gay ass Harlem Shuffle and that stupid dance MASE use to all ways do. SO shut the fuck up the east started hip hop thats it nothing else. PAC is the greatest Ever. Dre is the best producer ever. OUtkast is the highest selling group best group ever fuck wu tang didnt go diamond. ONe of Jay-z biggest hits just happen to feature South Artist. I mean damn get ya mind right fuck boy. Cuz yall real shitty right now.

  • COMPTON_OG

    fuck southern music them lil bitches aint got no lyrics at all yall bitches gay. down in the cpt we have block parties and shit and in the gang house nigga i be up on the table in the basement rappin and nigga i can flow but when i heard this southern bullshit i was like damn these niggas suck can none of yall fools rap!
    fuck down south bitch ass music! p.s. go back to milkin cows and talk that country shit cuz thats all you fools good at! geya

  • http://MYSPACE.COM/DJSWAGGA832 DJ SWAGGA

    MAN WILL U SHUT DA FUCK UP DISSIN DA SOUTH,NEW YORK AINT CAME OUT WIT NUTHIN HOT SINCE 50 FIRST CAME OUT NIGGAZ SAYIN YA THUGS IN YA MUSIC AND DANCIN IN YA VIDEOS AND SHIT FUCK KINDA HO ASS SHIT IS DAT.SOUTH GOT HOT ARTOST AS WELL AS DA EAST & WEST SO YALL NEW YORKERS QUIT YA BITCHIN IF YA REALLY BOUT IT DEN DISS US ON WAX INSTEAD OF WRITIN YA LIL FORUMS BOUT US DATS A BITCH MOVE.

  • THATS WORD

    It’s simple. The shit aint Hip-Hop, its not in that category. Leave it at that. MTV, BET and VH1, all their awards dont mean a damn thing. Its not hip-hop, plain and simple. So dont call it that. Let the mindless drones who spit that wack shit keeping doing it, they can get rich and be happy, they are still mindless fucking drones, you want hip-hop, listen to the real emcees not signed to large corporate contracts, who never will be and who dont give a fuck if they ever are. so to all you weak, no rhyme-havin, corny ass emcees who like to talk about the same shit, keep doin it…but remember, thats yo shit. Shit…if you listen to the radio for music, you just a corny ass sucker anyway.

  • PopSwan

    Cuss words and Erotic language are a privillage use them wisely.

  • DJ Backlash

    I really agree that rap/hip hop music has changed a lot and mostly to my dismay.I’ve got so used to the “east coast/west coast” thing that it took me a while to come around that southern sound.However,I like the southern “bass” sound,but the pimp/ho and bling-bling/money mentality is really annoying.Generally,i prefer music for dancing and party that talks about having a good time and not getting laid or spending lavishly.With that said,the most positive aspect of hip hop is the “dancing styles”-namely breakdancing.It would be good to go back to the old school and golden age of hip hop.

  • Anonymous

    shawty this shawty dat,in da club,ridin clean and dirty.no story line whatsoever.like soulja boy’s swag on.the whole fuckin song is a sorry ass bullshit hook.i gave up on hip hop the south especially except for outkast goodie mob and thats about it.i like ll wayne and luda is ok.over all the south.tell me a story or something not the same thing over and over again for 4 fuckin minutes.muthafuckas cant talk for shit!what the fuck is a skreet?ITS STREET!auto tune music is what i call it.big ups to outkast and goodie mob.to the rest of ya fuck ya.yeah im from the north. I-94 faggots.and where are the real singers nowadays ciara?fuck no!we need more jill scotts jennifer hudsons and fantasias.the last rap cd i bought was hmmmm..o eminem emimem and eminem.but yall country ass no talkin muthafuckas aint feelin him like that if at all.someone who speaks clearly and u can understand what he sayin and he makes words that dont rhyme rhyme,what can thiese idiots do?o i know look dumb and stupid.yall know who the fuck u all r.learn how to speak b4 puttin shit for all to hear.well not all cuz yall aint worldwide.take a speech class.

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  • RA

    The way i see it Hip Hop is experiencing growing pains, so to speak, that plus the media has managed to manuver it’s way into a position of serious influence in reguards to what makes it on the shelves at your local Warehouse, Sam Goodie’s , and even Wal Mart, i mean, at the end of the day, distribution is the difference between staying underground and going mainstream, and all the money is in the mainstream, and right now the distribution companies, like Time Warner for example, are the ones responsible for putting all this whack ass bullshit out there, and as a result, no talent Southern rappers are everywhere like roaches in a filthy house, trust me, if the distribution companies, radio conglomerates, and whack ass shows like 106 & Park weren’t pushing this crap it would’ve played out years ago, and my guess is this is being done for the sole purpose of marginalizing Hip Hop as a whole to the point where it no longer has the influence that it does now, so, no, Hip Hop ain’t dead but it’s definately on life support, and if us true Hip Hop heads don’t do something quick to revive it, more than likely it’s gonna flatline, that’s my take on the situation….

  • DJ Freeze

    What about the 3rd coast artist
    Z-ro
    Trae
    Pimp C
    Bun B
    They make some of the realest music out there

  • THINK ABOUT THIS

    WELL I WILL START OFF IN CAPS….BECAUSE THAT’S HOW MUCH THIS SUBJECT MAKES ME SICK…LET’S START OFF BY SAYING THAT NEW YORK HIP HOP IS THE STARTING POINT TO BLAME FOR ALL OF THIS…SOMEWHERE SOME WAY YO MTV RAPS THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO EXPOSE HIP HOP FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY…SOUNDED GOOD RIGHT??? WELL NOT SO FAST IT’S ONE THING TO EXPOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HIP HOP MUSIC..IT’S QUITE ANOTHER TO EXPOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HIP HOP CULTURE….NOW THINK ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID FOR A MIN……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….WHEN YOU CONFUSE A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE INTO THINKING THAT A CERTAIN GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION IS SOME HOW LINKED TO A CERTAIN WAY MUSIC SOUNDS….THAT’S WHERE YOU MESSED UP…THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT YO MTV RAPS DID….FOCUSED TOO MUCH ON WHERE THE MUSIC CAME FROM INSTEAD OF CONCETRATING ON HOW IT ACTUALLY SOUNDS ….SO THIS IS WHEN NY ARTIST STARTED WATCHING INSTEAD OF LISTENING…… GETIING FACINATED INSTEAD OF GETTING THE CREATIVE JUICES GOING ….MAYBE THEY GOT EXCITED BY SEEING THE HIGH RECORD SALES BEING CREATED BY SUCH BULLSHIT MUSIC…I DON’T KNOW…SO NOW NOBODY CAN ARGUE THAT NWA AND DR. DRE CAME WITH SOME QUALITY HIP HOP MUSIC NO ONE CAN DEBATE THAT…BUT WITH THAT SAID YOU HAD EVERY WANNABE MC THAT CAME FROM THE WEST COAST LOOKING TO SHINE AND MTV GAVE THEM THE PLATFORM…NOW YOU ASK WHAT’S WRONG WITH THIS??? I WILL TELL YOU , THE WEST COAST …THE DIRTY SOUTH AND EVERY PLACE EXCEPT THE NEW YORK CITY AREA…DOES NOT HAVE THE OVERFLOW OF TALENT COMING FROM THOSE AREAS..SO NOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO PLEASE YOUR BOSSES IS ROUND UP JUST ABOUT ANYBODY WHO COMES FROM THOSE AREAS JUST TO KEEP YOUR INITIAL BUZZ GOING!!!!AND UNLIKE THE TRI STATE AREA IF YOU DON’T HAVE ALOT OF TALENT TO CHOOSE FROM…WELL WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS???THE NONSENSE GETS THROUGH IN A BIG WAY…WHY DO YOU THINK THE EAST COAST HIP HOP HISTORY IS SO MUCH RICHER IN TASTE????OTHER AREAS HAVE HAD MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME TO PRODUCE INCREDIBLE ACTS…BUT THEY HAVEN’T AND THEY WONT…CAUSE THEY CAN’T…CHECK THIS OUT ,RUN DMC, BIZMARKIE,KRS ONE,SALT N PEPA,BIG DADDY KANE,DE LA SOUL,CHUBB ROCK,ERIC B AND RAKIM,SLICK RICK,WHODINI,DOUGIE FRESH,PUBLIC ENEMY,LLCOOL J,THE BEASTIE BOYS AND QUEEN LA . HERSELF WERE ALL OUT AT THE SAME TIME AT ONE TIME WITH SUCCESS…AND NOT ONE OF THOSE ARTIST SOUNDED LIKE THE NEXT…NOW YOU TELL ME WHERE ANY OTHER PART OF THIS COUNTRY OR WORLD THIS EVER HAPPENED IN HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • NICK

    people just hatin on tha south HAS the best rappers in history.5OUTH TAKE OVER

  • beau

    Nigga east coast and west coast music is TRASH! You are made because them nothing ass nigga’s in the south bypassed the record companies and got paid!
    All of today’s rap music is GARBAGE! Don’t put it all on the south NIGGA!

  • teddy

    absolute truth brotha

  • Jaybro

    Southern cRap music is nothing but ni99er noise. I’m black and I consider most southern rappers monkeys along with the sheep that follow and love their music. Twerking hoes, crack slinging, skripclub money throwing monkeys.

  • LJ

    Ah beau, Fuck yo Cotton Mouth shit kicking manure smelling i cant talk right motherfucks, all yall country ass is a phase of trash and will leave nothing in the history books 10 years from now, East coast Niggas(New york,Detroit) laugh at you worthless hicks ,you all sold out your southern culture to make bullshit, and be wannabes, style wise by copping old styles from the east and west , you call yourselves (Georgia,Atl) the “Hollywood and New york of the south,well we already Have those ,yall cant even stay true to your own state because of your own identity and personality crises. SHAME. and yall fail miserably trying to emulate other major cities.