Oh, it ain’t my fault

This evening, PBS will be airing a documentary having to due with issues in hip-hop like masculinity, misogyny, and homophobia. I’ve yet to see it myself, and I’m not sure if I’ll be able to, but I’ve read a bit about it both in the New York Times and the PBS website, and so far I’ve yet to be convinced that this is such a huge issue.

For example, a couple of years ago, VIBE magazine ran a story in which they attempted to expose some sort of domestic violence epidemic in hip-hop. It was a ridonkulously shoddy piece of work. The evidence, which was mostly anecdotal, seemed to stem primarily from that DVD of Big Pun pistol-whipping his wife as well as the fact that Damon Dash was once accused of rape.

So Big Pun beat up his wife and Damon Dash may or not have raped a broad; as I pointed out at the time, the Big Pun incident most likely stemmed from the fact that he was a latino more so than that he was a rapper. And call me a misogynist if you want, but why else would Damon Dash be bringing a modeling chick back to his hotel room. To play Scrabble?

Hilariously, the story attempted to cover up the fact that it didn’t contain any real evidence of such a phenomenon by suggesting that this was because too many women were afraid to come forward out of fear of reprisal. Meanwhile, what kind of black chick do you know who would turn down the chance of denigrating a black man in the pages of VIBE magazine?

To be sure, there’s plenty of evidence to suggest that black women have it pretty damn rought. I’ll spare you running down the actual statistics, both because I don’t have them handy and because who wants to hear that shit anyway, but it’s true in general that black women are much more likely to be beat up, raped, and or killed.

Still, it’d be a leap in logic to suggest that this is hip-hop’s fault, especially when the main evidence we having linking the genre to actual acts of violence against women is pretty damn questionable. Meanwhile, I can think of plenty of incidents of violence against black women that didn’t have shit to do with hip-hop.

What about the legions of black hookers who turn up dead in dumpsters year in and year out. I’m sure they contribute to the statistics quite a bit, but I’m not sure how they relate to hip-hop. Maybe they serviced a few rappers during their tragically brief tenures in the entertainment industry, but was it rappers who killed them or crazed cracka-ass crackas?

Of course, most of those black chicks wouldn’t have been out there ho’ing in the first place, and, as Shakespeare would say, therein lies the rub. It’s not NWA’s Niggaz4life album that leads a man to put his shoe on his wife, it’s crushing poverty. Attempting to throw the blame on rap music isn’t going to help do anything other than further alienate hip-hop kids from the rest of society.

  • thoreauly77

    jesus christ bol. this is one ignorant ass post.

  • AR

    good post

  • jacquez
  • Ace

    Hip-hop does have a misogyny problem because it fosters negative relations towards women. Now, I won’t go as far as to say that it is the reason for poor treatment. Like with the school shootings they tried to blame on manson, the actor must be responsible for their own actions. I’m not going to sell drugs because rap tells me to. I’m not going to beat women because rap tells me to either. People need to stop blaming the music in their attempts to find an explanation (read: a way out of blaming themselves).

  • content

    Your posts have good concepts but fail to get off the ground (no bol after a stumble) because you’re too damn lazy to do any research.

    I don’t mind too much when you talk shit about rappers and don’t back it up but if you’re going to do an investigative peace that lazy shit ain’t gonna fly (no bol in an airplane).

  • Combat Jack

    ^”what kind of black chick do you know who would turn down the chance of denigrating a black man in the pages of VIBE magazine?”

    Um, I don’t know of any.

  • My Effin’ Opinion

    Ace Says:

    February 20th, 2007 at 2:48 pm

    “… I’m not going to sell drugs because rap tells me to. I’m not going to beat women because rap tells me to either.”

    ^^^^^^

    Yea, but you know what … if you hear about it casually and often … even glorified, then it doesn’t seem like “that bad” of a thing so your more likely to engage in it with a “what’s the big deal” attitude.

    For example, if you’re 9 or 10 growing up in home where your parents never curse the word “Motherfucker” may seem harsh or more powerful when used or heard.

    On the other hand if your 9 or 10 and your parents use foul language all day long, then the word “motherfucker” doesn’t seem so bad. In fact, you may even start using it with the perception that there isn’t a big deal in using the word “motherfucker”.

    Again, hearing it all the time it isn’t gonna make you use the word, but it definitley lessens the seriousness of it and that’s a “motherfuckin” problem ….

  • MoreFish

    Hey, I like scrabble !

  • Rizzop

    “but it’s true in general that black women are much more likely to be beat up, raped, and or killed” WTF is this…..is this based on the fact that you were there or the cases that are reported? Please state facts sir. for all you know ALL cases arent reported.

    “Hip-hop does have a misogyny problem because it fosters negative relations towards women.” More stupid shit!!!! A hip hop song never made me call a women a bitch or hoe…….A women ACTING like a bitch or hoe made me say so. The shitty treatment of women did not begin with hip hop music. Its basic human behavior. I dont think its right, but it happens. They might as well say black people are the one ones that beat on women! Come the hell on and dont say such idiotic shit.

  • derfla the hus’la

    this is a good post better then that shitty indie fuck…………..

    Iama co-sign Ace most people who do these things are old enough to know right from wrong why the fuck blame it on someoneelse…..if jay-z makes a song about jumping of a building would you do it?

  • TheNicker

    I love Scrabble . . .

  • http://www.myspace.com/gopentertainment Sayso is Donny Slaughter

    They always pull this bulshyt on Black Music Month, and Black History Month, now CNN bout to air some shyt aimed at denigrating hip hop!!! At least we don’t worship Satan in our music and videos, which in turn promotes beastiality, human and animal sacrifices, and all tha other shyt that us Black folks just don’t do!!! I think they just need a reason to listen to hip hop, cuz they’re secret admirers of our gun totin’, coke snortin’, big booty luvin’ society!!!LOL!!!!

  • TheNicker

    “if jay-z makes a song about jumping of a building would you do it?”

    If he made it in ’98, people probably would have . . .

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    “…it’s my dick in a box, my dick in a box girl…”

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >“but it’s true in general that black women are much more likely to be beat up, raped, and or killed” WTF is this…..is this based on the fact that you were there or the cases that are reported?

    That’s not exactly a rare fact. My bad if nobody ever told you.

    Like I said, I don’t have my black misery almanac in front of me, but you’re certainly free to consult Google.

    I would have myself, but I get paid the same either way.

  • Spacey Sprokets

    I’m so fuckin tired of this women misogyny crap. women do as they feel they show up to rap videos to do auditions they damn selves no one forces them if its really a problem then they would say no to being half naked they are grown women ya know.besides men only get away with what women allow but people just fail to hold them responsible its fucking disgusting its a bullshit cop out and as long as we make excuses for women doing these things they’ll always have a crutch to fall on its time someone asks them why they do what they do its a way bigger issue then they think. every year they ask the same ?’s tackle others issues with this

  • EReal

    Its the parent’s and media’s faults. Raise your fucking kids right and they wont grow up to be pieces of shit. The non parents just wanna blame their non parenting on anything they can. TV, Music, Radio, The War, any fuckin thing.
    You are a product of your environment, and maybe hiphop is one part of your environment, but its not the whole picture. Since the day you were born your parents have created that environment, and believe it or not a sense of right and wrong and a moral code SHOULD already be instilled in you by the time you are even aware or old enough to make decisions about the kind of TV you watch or the music you listen to, because parents should be monitoring that.
    This is where the poverty comes in. Because if you’re a single mom working two jobs to keep your kids fed and clothes on their backs and a roof over their head, you dont have much time to be monitoring your children do you?
    Lets call a spade a spade here, some people are just shitty parents and some people dont have the opportunity to raise their children with alot of attention because they’re struggling. The latter is really the big issue.
    Thats what it comes down to, this false sense of security that the government wants us to be lulled into. They would love us to believe that poverty is a non issue in america, that we are safer now than 911 because we have less civil rights, and the media controls the way things are looked at and what is looked at and they are such a sensational entity that whatever is NEW is now MOST IMPORTANT. The media would love for you to believe this is hiphop’s fault. You know why? Cause they said so, sheepole.

    1 hunned.

  • http://www.myspace.com/16kingz da’realestwritin’

    yeah bol!

  • http://www.myspace.com/petelastname1 Pete Lastname

    Homophobia in hip hop?

    Hmm.

    Perfect chance to plug my myspace.

    http://www.myspace.com/petelastname1

  • Tag

    Bol’s next post will probably feature the issue that he’s been been raped by a black hooker who jumped out of dumpster to stop him from lissening to rage against the machine by slapping him with a Indie rock cd.

  • Fin

    Fact: Studies show that black ppl who watch more tv are more depressed when compared to white. Ostensibly because of the lack of positive representations.

    Fact: Studies show that listening to hip hop music increases individuals attributions of stereotypes in both blacks and whites.

    You may not believe me, but the music does have an effect on behaviors.
    Of course some ppl are just predisposed to violence, misogyny, etc. but listening to violent misogynistic music is a factor that we would like to pretend doesn’t exist.

  • DANGER

    BOL YOUR SAYING BIG PUN PISTOL WHIPPING HIS WIFE HAS MORE TO DO WITH HIM BEING LATINO THAN A RAPPER . YOUR A FUNNY GUY. I GUESS IN ORDER TO POST BLOGS ON THIS WEBSITE A REQUIRMENT IS IGNORANCE OR PLAIN STUPIDITY

  • DANGER

    BOL YOUR SAYING THAT BIG PUN PISTOL WHIPPING HIS WIFE HAS MORE TO DO WITH HIM BEING LATINO THAN A RAPPER. I GUESS TO POST BLOGS ON THIS WEBSITE A REQUIRMENT IS IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY.

  • CALI DRO

    fuck you!!!!

  • Tyler

    Bol, U are back in rare form my fatass homie. Good lookin’ dawg. U funnier than a motherfuckin’ white chic gettin’ beat by her old man.
    Get wit’ it or Get rolled over by it:
    http://www.myspace.com/marcusorealiusmusic
    http://www.myspace.com/marcmaysrockandrollthug

  • http://dahshyt.blogspot.com Belize

    Ur not worthy!!!!!!!!!!!

  • jimmy

    see — bol does love hip hop.

  • blergmatic

    “but it’s true in general that black women are much more likely to be beat up, raped, and or killed.”

    What kinda shit is that to say without research. You house nigga, sound like dem fuckin crackas.

  • NSW

    What people need to realize is that this is entertainment! Its when un-educated dick heads start wanting to act it out and thats when these songs began to become real. The moment someone gets to wrapped up in what jay is saying or T.I is saying, thats when they start admiring it and wanting to mimic it, rappers can say what the hell they wanna say but its up to us to be responsible and know this is entertainment nothing more nothing less.

  • Incilin

    This is a good arugment all around, expect for the last part. When you mentioned “alienating” hip hop kids. I must say, that the reason hip hop exists is because of the urban alienazation people faced in poor black communities. Maybe alienazation is good

  • Whiteman

    “the Big Pun incident most likely stemmed from the fact that he was a latino more so than that he was a rapper”

    AHHHHHH That is so true and funny…

  • Hurricane Game

    LMAO!!!
    yOU gOTTA LOVE pUN.
    Dame didnt rape that hoe. Dame gets more visits from women than Tom from Myspace.
    Course he didnt. If she said no he would of kicked her out and got another chick.
    Damn white People

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    The bitch misplaced Pun’s gun what do you expect him to do.

  • jaguar_paw

    The bitch misplaced Pun’s gun what do you expect him to do.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    lol.

    http://www.myspace.com/ianlewismusicmanagement bitch…

  • BREEZE

    Big Pun pistol whipped her bc he was latino…and Dam Dash prob did play scrabble with that chick, while Cam hit it from the back

  • NickeNitro

    Wow! In your own Bol way (complete with stereotypes that I’m willing to believe you’re mocking), you were pretty much right on with this one.

    Although I tend to expect the cursory, archetypal hip-hop bashing from these sorts of things, I watched the show with an open-mind. PBS, unlike the NY Times lots of times, seems to cover issues thoughtfully, in depth, and with an eye for the truth.

    Overall, I’d have to give the show a thumbs-up. I was really hating the first 15-30 minutes until I saw where he was going with it, taking everyone along on his investigation to get to the bottom. I’m sure there were some viewers that nodded along with the early parts who gained perspective later in the show. Other thoughts:

    -What was he expecting to find at Spring Bling? He would have found white people doing the same things in Panama City (even freestyling) — that doesn’t really have to do with hip-hop. Spring Bling isn’t hip-hop or black culture, it’s college culture.

    -On the other hand, the best part of the show for me was where he talked to the rappers looking for a shot at the Clear Channel event. Basically, they said that it shouldn’t be this way, but if that’s the only opportunity they’re given by the media and the industry, they gotta take it.

    -There’s nothing per se gay about taking your shirt off. That was a pointless segment.

    -The girl in the Ramones was a good example of the effect of what the big companies decide to market has on white people who don’t quite get it.

    -Chuck D and Carmen Ashhurst made great points.

    -Gangsta rap and NWA got a raw deal in the show. Gangsta rap is a vital part of hip-hop. The problem is the constant playing of the same ‘ol, same ‘ol derivative, repetitive, lowest common denominator crap.

    The only big complaint I have is that, while it did a pretty good job of covering the issues it set out to, it didn’t show very much of the other sides of hip-hop. People need to know that there’s something different than what big media is forcing them to perceive hip-hop and/or black culture as being. That’s a big part of this discussion.

    He also should have gone a step further and pointed out that BET is owned operated by Viacom, whose execs are nearly all white people.

  • Snead

    Yeah blame a genre of music 4 people abusing there wives and raping women. Im sure noone raped or beat up their wife prior to the invention of hip hop .

  • NickeNitro

    Oh yeah Bol, they had some transexuals on the show too. They said homophobia turns them on (“it’s so aggressive”), so you’re in there like swimwear.

  • zeechild

    1st

  • derfla the hus’la

    TheNicker Says:

    February 20th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
    “if jay-z makes a song about jumping of a building would you do it?”

    If he made it in ‘98, people probably would have . . .
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    and I wouldn’t be wrong to think that you’d be one of them.

  • derfla the hus’la

    TheNicker Says:

    February 20th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
    “if jay-z makes a song about jumping of a building would you do it?”

    If he made it in ‘98, people probably would have . . .
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    and I wouldn’t be wrong to think that you’d be one of them.

  • EReal

    NickeNitro Says:

    February 21st, 2007 at 8:16 am
    Oh yeah Bol, they had some transexuals on the show too. They said homophobia turns them on (”it’s so aggressive”), so you’re in there like swimwear.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Genius. Pure Genius. LMFAO.

    1 hunned.

  • E

    @ my effin opinion

    That was some muthafuckin real talk for ya ass!

  • rajjan

    black people are racist and use ‘crackers???’ as scapegoats. its ur own fault, asians r doing perfectly well

  • DEESENOTS

    whatever, most women rappers deal with are bitches hoes after money and or drugs alcohol. if you aint a hoe don’t take offense. and mothafuckas been whippin bitches asses since caveman days. its much easier to blame music and other forms of media to cover up real problems. ei:poverty, lack of both parents in the home crooked ass gub’ment shitty ass schools. music is a reflection of life , we told em don’t push us cause we’re close to the edge, now we’ve fallen over it.

  • embee

    the first post of substance ive ever seen bol make and all you fools have to say is how full of it he is b/c he doesn’t have stats…get a fking life

  • juice

    you fucking stupid as hell 4 saying Pun hit his girl cuz he was latino its a shame that some people are just to fucking dumb 2 realize race aint everything idiots!!!!!

  • I will gut your mother

    I will Slap the shit out your mom with my dick and the butt of the gun crawford or whatever ur bitch ass name is.