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The Pack are a group of young hyphy rapist-looking kids out of Berkely, California, home of the historically Asian University of California at Berkeley. I can’t claim to know anything (or care much) about the area, but it doesn’t strike me as the kind of hood that produces a lot of rappers.

But what do I know. Perhaps my fact-checking cuz dameSTATii could enlighten us.

You may have heard of them last year because they recorded a song called “Vans,” about how much they like Vans skateboarding shoes. MTV wouldn’t play it because it was essentially a four minute shoe commercial, and MTV isn’t the business of playing commercials without getting paid for that shit.

What was the deal with “Vans” anyway? My guess is that The Pack decided of their own volition, without any remuneration from the TI’s at Vans, to record a tribute to their a tribute to their favorite brand of shoes. After all, it’s not uncommon for jigs to sing odes to their favorite brand names.

[For any musicologists reading this: Would that be considered a trait of hip-hop that's distinctly African, like polyrhythm, or was that something that was inserted during the middle passage? Just wondering.]

A Brief Bol History Lesson (Feel Free to Skip)

It is fairly uncommon for black people to wear skateboarding shoes though, right? I’m not one of these people who knows anything about shoes other than how to tie them, but the only people I ever knew who wore skateboarding shoes were (mostly) cracka-ass crackas.

I used to ride the bus to middle school with some white kids who were into skateboarding, and they would always talk who got what sponsorship. You see, if you were good at skateboarding, companies would give you money to wear their shoes. You didn’t even have to be famous or anything.

I thought about getting into skateboarding myself, but I was way too fat and uncoordinated and close-minded and so on and so forth. That said, I did own a few pairs of Vans, as did what seemed like the vast majority of people I went to school with. These people would always be referred to as “posers.”

You didn’t want to be referred to as a poser.

Now Back to the Rap Music (Albeit Snap Rap Music)

The weird thing about The Pack is that they’re essentially one of these god-awful snap rap groups, (they’ve even done a song with Dem Franchize Boyz) except for a few key differences. Aside from the skateboarding shoes, they’ve somehow managed to make snap-hop much more listenable.

Some of the tracks on their new Skateboards 2 Scrapers EP incorporate actual snapping and some of them don’t, but all of them are at least a few BPMs faster than your average southern snap rap song. Indeed, one of the few things about hyphy I’ve come to appreciate is how fast it is.

And I say few because I can’t imagine anyone listens to this shit for the lyrics. I don’t know if it’s the E pills eating a hole in their brains of what, but The Pack rap about some ignorant-ass shit. Not that I’m complaining or anything. I’m just saying.

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  • http://yahoo.com quin_c813

    useless!!!!

  • Torry Blak

    So, what exactly were you trying to say? Seems like a pointless blog.

  • Felicia

    yeah, i thought they were wack too! didn’t too short sign them?

  • Avenger

    Yep that is some of the most retarded shit I have heard. It’s like any bastard with a half ass flow can start claiming emcee these days. What would happen if we could do the same thing with singers LOL

  • Phuque

    Wow…you MUST have run out of relevant shit to write about. Again.

  • $$EAZY_MONEY$$

    I like the song.

  • ksa

    tadow

  • http://www.afterthesmoke.com Whuzi

    useless blog…pointless

  • http://www.myspace.com/16kingz cuzo

    lMAO!! YEAH BOL THEY JUS’ ANOTHA GROUP THAT IN 6 MONTHS(HOPEFULLY SOONER) NO ONE WILL GIVE TWO FUKS ABOUT! I DON’T FUCK WIT’ NO HYPHY SHIT,1ST CUZ’ I DON’T POP NO PILLS,(BABYMOTHERS IS A DIFFRENT SUBJECT)AND 2ND I JUS’ DON’T LOOK RIGHT FOR A 25 YR. OLD MAN TO BE ROCKIN’ SKATE BOARD SHOES AND BAGGY JEANS.ATTENTION ALL 20 SOMETHIN’ YR. OLD MEN:YOU DON’T LOOK COOL DRESSED LIKE A 18 YR.OLD YOU LOOK LIKE YOU TRYIN’ TO HARD! LET IT GO DAWG IT’S OVA! GET SOME LRG SHIT OR A GROWN MAN AND STOP WATCHIN’ SO MUCH BET.ANYWAY.FUCK HYPHY,FUCK THEY WHACK MOVEMENT AND THE ONLY TIME I MAKE A THIZZ FACE IS JERKIN’ ONE OFF ON SOMEBODY’S MOTHER FOR KICKS!.AND THATS REAL.

  • myzcarter

    the pack is garbage no black person i kno wear them shoes except 2 oreos. o but i liked vans…well the beat.

  • yung ceasa

    haaaaaaaaaaaa bol’s a poser

  • Were Read 2 Def

    Is there anything else to write about?

  • jacquez
  • jon jon–23

    Negros don’t want Vans ’cause they can actually afford them. You know our race: $1 in our bank account scraping up to buy $130 shoes…..

  • BloodRaw

    damn it BOL i wanted to hear who broke weezys jaw cuz i heard it was gilly da kid

  • BloodRaw

    damn it BOL you shoulda talked about weezy gettin his jaw broke

  • http://asdf.com First

    Didn’t that song come out like a year ago or something? This post strikes me as late as fuck. Either way, those kids are terrible. I’m not going to bother listening to the song with them and DFB . . that’s torture.

  • BloodRaw

    BOL “who broke weezys jaw”

    now thats some shit id read

  • thoreauly77

    van’s rule. the pack, not so much. bol’s not a poser. bol’s a poseur.

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    home of the historically Asian University of California at Berkeley.
    ^^^^^
    Isn’t every University filled with asians

    Out here in California its more common for blacks and latinos to skate than anywhere else.

    I’m indifferent to the Pack but I can appreciate the fact that they don’t have annoying southern or ny accents

    I was almost sponsered for skating but had to quit out of fear of losing my street cred in the barrio

  • difrant

    1st

    time and time again u write a hole lot of bullshit. how u got a job at XXL i dunno.

  • Randomname

    Once upon a time I used to Vans/Airwalks etc. I used to hit up underground station all the time.

    But I used to rock them in more of an undergrond Hiphop/ Backpacker style, not in a skateboarder/ hipster way. But then again the two circles would sometime meet up.

    Every once in a while though I have to stop myself from grabbing some D&G joints when I walk past it in the mall

  • who killed him

    daim bol!!!!!!

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    when i first heard the song i thought it was a complete joke…to be honest i didnt even know what vans were…but after a few listens i found myself going dumb whenever it came on(check the remake on Lil Weezyana)…the beat is a monster…they could have been talkin about prokeds for all i care…the video has a lot of energy too(going dumb i guess)…am i checking for their cd…no…mtv jams played it enough for me…and now i have the luxury of listening to Weezy over the beat…according to “Beef” there is some animosty in the arena of reppin skateboarding…just like gangster rap…you have some dude(i forget his name as if it mattered)up tight about this other dude(no name) who was reppin skateboarding but the previous mentioned dude said he wasnt living the shit…but anyways that skateboarding shit real i respect the art…cuz that is what it is…i had a skateboard when i was younger…when your young…the closemindedness of society hasnt taken its toll on your psyche yet…so i wanted to try it out…after about a week the skatboard collected more dust than my imaginary kingdome come album that i never purchased(no i cant stand the rat bastard he is a fraud)…

    side note: did anyone peep that reality series that comes on mtv2 with the white dude and his big black friend…all i got to say is i feel sorry for the black guys family…he is like a toy the white dude purchased at a store…

    see you at the top

  • Combat Jack

    um, my kids like the song.

  • four fifteen

    if you knew rap, you’d know the bay area. berkeley is directly next OAKLAND. that means LOTS of different colored people – many of which are black (along with hispanic, asian, etc…).

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >Isn’t every University filled with asians

    Um, no.

    >Didn’t that song come out like a year ago or something? This post strikes me as late as fuck.

    *checks to make sure the EP just came out Dec. 19th*

    Whew!

    >if you knew rap, you’d know the bay area.

    Yeah, but I don’t like rap.

  • THE ONE

    And I dont like the Bay area. Them niggas cant rap for shit.

  • rec

    usually like your ish bol but this is kinda well…eigh!

  • http://www.hiphop-ads.com dj mirateck

    okay, you’re killing me.

    you spelled my alma mater wrong.

    BERKELEY- don’t forget that second E

    The Pack falls into the hyphy camp (albiet a lo-fi variant of the broader hyphy movement). don’t even try to equate them to snap. hyphy is more the cousin of crunk than snap, which is crunk’s bastard stepchild.

  • dameSTATii

    Bol-yon-cube,

    Berkeley, being the home of the hippie revolution (along w/ Haight/Ashbury in SF), tends to be the place where you can spot Del tha Funkee Homosapien, the other heiro camp, and those fat guys, Zion I.

    So, while UC Berkeley (and to a lesser the extent the entire bay area) has a great # of asians, the city itself attracts “counter-culture” types in general, of all races.

    On a sidnote, At the recent Dirt Angel concert here in SF, Jimmy called the Pack on stage (who were in the crowd) to peform Vans.. D.A. muttered something about “whenever y’all (Pack) do an East Coast date, I come out and support”.

  • Jay

    hahah im from the bay but umm… yea the music down here sucks really bad.

    NYC Rap > Southern Rap > Bay Rap

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Wow… This crap makes me miss your Rey Works At Taco Bell and Jay Z Sucks posts. Nullus. UNO!

  • pockets

    black ppl dont wear skateboarding shoes? ever heard of sb dunks?

  • Global Macro

    Hold up Bol is Irish??

  • content

    boooooooooooooooooooo!

  • lady

    bol the ice caps are melting and with the rise of sea level you might get flooded out yo mommas basement…and you on here writing shit about fucking sk8ter boys?…what the fuck is wrong with you .ma dude…this post is ssssssssssssooooooooo pointless……

  • lady

    bol.. also you are full of shit i know you like hiphop…you fucking carpet muncher take them damn hair out ya teeth a stop talk out yo ass!

  • 110street

    bol your shit getting wack B

  • Prince Of The South

    Whatever iI eas half interested in listening to they song after I heard them, thinking that it might be good because it’s different, but you said snap music. If they snap music then I’m saying they wack, because of DFB and D4L.

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >you spelled my alma mater wrong.

    Well, I got it right once.

  • Fernando

    Bol Says:

    “but it doesn’t strike me as the kind of hood that produces a lot of rappers.”

    Are you sick??? Retarded??? Hmmmmm, lets see…..

    Tupac, Too $hort, Digital Underground, Living Legends, HeiroGliphics, E-40 & The Click, Mac Dre, Messy Marv, Mac Mall, San Quinn, Grouch, Zion-I, Master P (Who resided in the Richmond area for quite a while)…..Just to name a few.

    Bol, Dont you live in Milwaukee or some sh*t??? Or is it St. Louis??

    Does Nelly & Jibbs count as a thriving hip-hop community in your eyes you fat f*ck? Yet another crappy post by Fat Man Scoop’s orphaned brother Bol. You got one thing right, there is a Sh*t load of Asians at Berkley.

    Out

  • http://thesameaswell purp smoker

    BOl or whatever the hell you call yourself WACK that’s all just WACK also the pack are not hip-hop you know that much but you… lameass don’t know HIP-HOP!!! Also since you just mention that you know nothing about shoes. Jordan’s would be pretty much out of question oh yea for that ass that made the assless remark about “OUR RACE” boi shut tha FUCK UP and think before you type. (Jon 23 ya bitch hala at me)

  • http://xxlmag.com thats him thats that bastard

    E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    January 11th, 2007 at 4:08 pm
    home of the historically Asian University of California at Berkeley.
    ^^^^^
    Isn’t every University filled with asians

    Out here in California its more common for blacks and latinos to skate than anywhere else.

    I’m indifferent to the Pack but I can appreciate the fact that they don’t have annoying southern or ny accents

    I was almost sponsered for skating but had to quit out of fear of losing my street cred in the barrio

    for one we dont believe you you need more ppl…who in there right mind turns down money for street cred. i would have took the money and dared someone in the hood to put they hands on me or to talk fancy…look homie the goal is to get money by any means

  • Da Man

    if u send a money order to xxl will they accept, if so what name to u got to rite on da money order or what company name? dis iz actually a serious question

  • BayGrlOnMamaz

    hold tha fuck up, u betta watch who tha fuck u talkin bout bol. bring yo ass 2 tha bay talkin that shit, u will neva make it home. Stay where u @ dude, do wut u do best, keep talkin that internet shit,and pray u dont get yo ass beat

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >look homie the goal is to get money by any means

    Well, that’s your goal…

  • Hurricane Game

    Bol DONT EVER SAY SNAP MUSICS LISTENABLE!!!

  • Hurricane Game

    Bol some of your blogs are good but this ones like watching ‘Old People Fucking’

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  • let the game begin

    c’mon bol your blogs are getting out of hand I know whats your plan you trying to turn your readers into anti hiphopers first hating every black successful guy in hiphop, shiting on good hiphop artist, trying to convince us to watch that white rapper crap now you think you can get niggas to wear vans? you out of line bol get somethin better to right about

    and oh yah!! you can take out that mask you have on we already know your true identity (the man)

  • Looms

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but why is there such a huge stink over the fact that they’re talking about Vans?
    Didn’t Nelly do “Air Force Ones”? Nobody said shit about that & MTV & radio played it to death even though it was also a 3 minute commercial for a shoe company.
    And just for the record, the Bay Area produces a shitload of rappers.

  • Cuban Link

    lol when I was like 10 a had 1 pair of Vans because they were actually real comfy.But that didnt last long.I suppose ur whole post doesnt really apply to me though =(

    but, anyway, that song is pretty catchy, even though I hate that music.I am so sure they have some kind of subliminal message in it to make u like it.

  • Hurricane Game

    Vans are gay and your gay bol for talking bout them in a good way. Air Jordans walk circles over the Teh Vans.

  • Adam K

    They’re only like 15 or something. I wouldn’t expect them to rap about anything that wasn’t considered “ignorant-ass shit.”

  • NickeNitro

    Wonder how much Nike is paying MTV to do a whole show on Air Force One’s? The lineup looks dope, but I’m sure MTV will find a way to fuck it up.

  • Stax On Deck

    And I say DUMB BLOG. Waste of SPACE. You just took up nice amount of server space on this blog

  • Junkie

    Another ignorant rant by BOL.

  • mannyworld33

    TOILET BOL!

    WHAT A WASTE OF TIME THIS BLOG TOPIC WAS!(NO YODA) I’M FROM PHILLY AND SOME CATS ROCK VANS SUM DON’T. I HAVE 2 PAIR(NO SLIP ON’S) AND I ROCK MINES NICE. SO TO EACH HIS/ HER OWN.

    AND THEY MAD COMFORTABLE TOO!

  • EReal

    BOL! WTF! You cant possibly be that ignorant.
    “but the only people I ever knew who wore skateboarding shoes were (mostly) cracka-ass crackas.”
    Uhm, Harold Hunter? SKATEBOARD P??? Lupe Jihadist?!?!? Come on dude.
    There is a HUGE hiphop influence in skateboarding. The crackas that skate for the most part listen to some kind of hiphop, whether it be BackPack, or GRap, w/e.. also black skateboarders are some of the BEST in the world at street skating. Skateboarding is a counter culture, and a magnet for hiphop influence, all be it mostly backpack stuff.
    The thing is it that there are hot ass skate shoes out there that look just as sick as any athletic shoe, and they have elastic that holds the tounge down and holds your foot in the shoe, so you dont even really use the laces and fuck up the shape of your kicks. I have a sick ass pair of DVS’s, and some dope ass DC’s that are real classy lookin too. Vans shoes just suck, and if I saw a hiphop cat rockin some slip on vans, id laugh at their ass and tell them to get some Chucks, hahaha.
    And lets not forget that chucks were one of the original skateshoes back in tha dogtown days, before Vans was even around.
    Come on man, step your blog game up.
    Even tho its better than reposting shit you wrote for another mag.(Extra Tara(even tho she defended you by taking a shot at lupe jihadist))
    1 hunned.

  • THE ONE

    and oh yah!! you can take out that mask you have on we already know your true identity (the man)
    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
    HAHAHAHA!! Now thats some funnuy shit for yo ass.

  • http://WWW.MYSPACE.COM/LARRYBRITE Larry_Brite

    Happy Martin Luther King to Ya’ll 2! We wear skate shoes because they’re cheap / clean / ain’t from Payless

  • Three4

    What I´ve heard is wack from this group…

  • dumbasznick

    “I don’t know if it’s the E pills eating a hole in their brains”

    where do u get off actually stating some shit like this??

    the bay is a hip hop DYNASTY.
    the pack is apart of the NEW generation along with many others including GO DAV, THE DILLIGENTZ, TEAM KNOC and alot of others.

    and to actually place them as apart of the SNAP RAP shit. are u an idiot???

    nick.

  • Undahr8ted

    ok so I was at this club in Berkeley called Blakes last nite…18+ Thursday Nites at Blakes go hella hard… Anyway the dudes from The Pack are always at the joint especially the dark ass niglet with the lop-sided dome. Those niglets are 5’5″ maximum. Anyway, so Pack dude (real name Peter) got into some kind of altercation outside with some other dudes or whatever and the pigs had to intervene and he was like “yeah everywhere I go its always some kind of drama because I’m a celebrity you know. i don’t know if you’ve seen me before? I’m on radio with the Vans Song…blah blah blah.” The white cop must’ve given him the funniest look ever like “who gives a fuck? U ain’t nobody!!!” Funniest shit ever.

    Them niggaz barely even pull females in their own hood…the real dime pieces look the other way…now thats a bad look.

  • Undahr8ted

    Blakes you’re still one ignorant ass black dude…I’m a student at UC Berkeley…but the school is by and large asian dominated.

    its spelled BERKELEY not BERKELY

    and DONT HATE ON THE BAY!

  • http://www.myspace.com/gunitsoldier50xlsbcglobal.net Ether

    Fuck Anyone Who Wears Vans

  • VICK

    hate skatebording rappers!! there is an exseption for lupe

  • your mom

    your a stupid fucking idiot, its all fun and games for you to call white peopel craka ass crackers but if you get called a niger you;d shit a brick.good old double standard at work

  • ak

    V.ans A.int N.iggaz S.hoes

  • SugarHill

    This Blog is a waste of memory and bandwith.

  • norcalidude

    alot of black peeps wear vans in tha east bay,let tha pack make their music, remeber their abunch of teens not even 20 years old, they juss makin rap songs havin fun, yadidimean…

  • Missy

    ALL OF YALL R SUM FUCKIN LAME ASS HATAZ..YALL AINT MAKIN MOVES SO U GOTTA SAY SUM SHIT ABOUT THA NEXT WHO IS WHICH IS THEM….FUKK YALL..YALL MUST CARE IF YALL GON SIT HERE AND COMMENT ON IT…LAMES ASS GUMPS….

  • YUNG STEWIE GURL

    DEEZ NUGGAHZ GOT SUM REEL SLAPS!!! IF Y00H AINT FRM DHA BAY Y00H M0ST LYKELY AINT GON APRECCIATE DEY MUSIC!! L0L!! DEY G0T SUMM REELI BOSS H0GGIN EM ASS SLAPS!! L0L!! DAYM!! AN DATS TREAL TALK ROUGE

  • http://www.microshark.com Jame Flopz

    What are you talking about bitch. That’s a rapper. Eat shit and download a new vest.

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