Rise of the Afro Hipster

Did everybody else catch this story the other day in the Style section of the New York Times about black people who are into cracka-ass cracka music like indie rock? (I know a lot of you d-bags are into fashion.)

If not, here you go:

The gist of it’s that black people, by and large, haven’t been involved with rock music since the days of Little Richard and Chuck Berry, but today – thanks to both the Internets and the fact that hip-hop sucks balls – there’s a growing community of young, black indie rock fans.

Last year alone, one of the most popular albums, Gnarls Barkley’s St. Elsewhere, as well as one of the most critically acclaimed albums, TV on the Radio’s Return to Cookie Mountain, were by black rock groups. Hardly any rap albums were as critically acclaimed or as commercially viable.

Already, one of the top albums of 2007 is A Weekend in the City by Bloc Party, a group who’s lead singer has somehow managed to be both black and teh ghey. It’s not even out yet, but my guess is that’s gonna be a pretty big album. Nullus.

Even many of the most anticipated rap albums of the year are by Kanye West, who’s working with the likes of Jon Brion and Chris Martin, Lil’ Wayne, who rocks big belt buckles and pretends to play the guitar, and The Pack, who rap about wearing Vans and riding skateboards. What gives?

The Times article is suggesting that part of it has to do with technology. There have always been black people here and there who were into cracka-ass cracka music, but in the past they were all kinda isolated. Now they can all join together on the Internets and comiserate.

Which sounds like a real story of technology-aided progress, though of course some aren’t as jazzed as others. For one, I’ve been listening to cracka-ass cracka music for years, and as much as I like the idea of other young jigs seeing the light, I could do without the tight pants and big belt buckles.

As Nelson George put it in the Times story, “Black kids do not want to go out with bummy clothes and dirty sneakers. There is a psychological subtext to that, about being in a culture where you are not valued and so you have to value yourself.”

If the Times would’ve called me for a quote, and of course they didn’t, I would’ve just told them the shit was teh ghey-looking.

  • Combat Jack

    Sean Price, “Jesus Price, Supastar” = XXL

  • DocZeus

    Bol with your strange obsession with the Gin Blossoms and all that wouldn’t you qualify as one of the people they are talking about in the article?

  • jacquez
  • EReal

    *snoring*
    Oh, its over?

    How the FUCK is The Pack album one of the most anticipated rap albums of 2007? You are so out of touch its unbelievable. You coulda done a lil bit of research and went to the “What are your top 10 of 07″ thread, you stooge.
    How did you write a post about an article with ZERO of your own opinions. Your only opinion is that you want young “jiggs” to listen to indie rock without their pants on. You tranny ass lovin closet homo.

    Just when I think your posts cant suck any more than they do (no persia’s dill on your grill), you go an drop this turd on us. Who gives a fuck about indie rock (besides you)on XXLmag????
    Do something entertaining and go back to ethering pancake face, puh-lease!

    1 hunned.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    Rock was created by blacks…FYI…

    Weezy and rock go good together…black rock is more soulful…i think there is a market for it…the white folks would mos def race to the stores to get it…

  • Boner Jams 03

    Eighteenth bitches!

  • Boner Jams 03

    and what the fuck does “teh ghey” mean anyway?

  • Were Read 2 Def

    What bout Detox & Cuban Linx 2?

  • 007

    never heard of jimi hendrix bol you ignorant jim jones push up riding fatboy

  • Boing Dynasty

    Retard.

  • http://www.thursdayplantation.blogspot.com lar

    For one, I’ve been listening to cracka-ass cracka music for years, and as much as I like the idea of other young jigs seeing the light, I could do without the tight pants and big belt buckles.
    amen! fuck a blipster.

  • john cochran

    I think black folks always felt some rock shit here and there, but never say it aloud. Now that rap is kinda on decline, you can come out of the perverbial closet. I wish these rappers would stop wearing rock clothes though ( dipset, wayne). On another note, I read an interview in blender with one of those rock bands( I think it was the killers) and the lead guy had an interesting opinion of the game. He said that hip hop is now pop music and rock was on decline. He also said that he didnt really feel rap because these niggas are always talking about themselves. Like, thier money, cars, and bitches. I kinda agree with him, whoever the cracker was.

  • Tyler

    Again peep the new heat in the streets UrbanRock which is the next level 2 what the article is tryin’ 2 talk about even though since they didn’t know we invented that Rock shit so we have been up on rock for ages the New York times seems 2 have missed their mark. The heat is here:
    http://www.myspace.com/marcusorealiusmusic
    http://www.myspace.com/marcmaysrockandrollthug

  • NickeNitro

    I don’t think Gnarls Barkely, TV on the Radio, or Bloc Party are really college rock. They just got promoted to indie flockers because the URBy stuff is an easier sell to them — all you have to do is call it “edgy,” “smart,” and of course “world weary,” then buy some good reviews, and your practically selling gold right off the bat with that demographic even if it’s no good.

    As far as Kanye, I don’t think he’s really “rocking out” either as much he’s looking to be a new school version of an arranger.

  • derfla the hus’la

    what’s wrong with this dude we want hiphop reviews who the fuck gives a daim about cracka ass music man..

  • CoChese

    If the Times would’ve called me for a quote, and of course they didn’t, I would’ve just told them the shit was teh ghey-looking.
    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Damn, Bol Head. You aint neva lied. Fuckin tight shirt and pants ass Jim Jones and Lil Wayne ass Pharell niggas.

  • let the game begin

    lol this guy really wants black kids to be gay…… fuck rock them crackers stole it from us and they fucked it up they can keep….fuck a cracker racist i.e bol

  • freehiphop

    but really bol get some sence people come into this website to blog about hiphop and you say they listen to indie….don’t make sense

  • SONNY CHEEBA
  • Avenger

    Hiphop has gone pop and it’s truest form is but a memory. So you balck kids with angst or some creativity have to build somewhere and hip-hop currently won’t let you do nothing but fuck, smoke, drink,bling, stunt repeat.

    I hope this is a wack up call for the genre or may it rest in peace and return to us a more evolved form of music.

  • http://whocareswhatpeoplethink thecollinb

    thank you from taking time away from your asian internet porn obsession to read the real news.
    I think it’s dope that the lines are visibly being blurred with rock music. I’ve had to pull an opening scene from Office Space a few times and roll my windows up while blasting Queens of the Stone Age or Audio Slave. I think a lot of black people have come across “white” music they fuck with that they don’t really speak on cause socially it’s unaceptable for us to know lyrics that don’t contain the word “nigga”.
    Fag pants aside if it means exposing black youth to different cultures i’m all for it cause the next doo streaked lil nigga i see claimin a set or ghost riding his moms Mercury Sable is gonna get their ass molly wopped by yours truly

  • Bling Nasty Da 2nd

    what the fuck is teh ghey?

  • john cochran

    One thing about rock is that there’s no boundaries. I hear these white boys singing about anything. There videos are way better though. Rap videos are just episodes of cribs. ALL YOU DUMBASSES SCREAMING THAT “THIS IS A HIP HOP SITE” SHIT NEED TO WAKE UP. We need to observe the way things are going in our culture to learn how we can help it continue to grow. As much as you niggas scream hip hop is dead, yall should be all ears to ideas that can bring it back.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    john cochran Says:

    January 30th, 2007 at 3:22 pm
    I think black folks always felt some rock shit here and there, but never say it aloud. Now that rap is kinda on decline, you can come out of the perverbial closet. I wish these rappers would stop wearing rock clothes though ( dipset, wayne). On another note, I read an interview in blender with one of those rock bands( I think it was the killers) and the lead guy had an interesting opinion of the game. He said that hip hop is now pop music and rock was on decline. He also said that he didnt really feel rap because these niggas are always talking about themselves. Like, thier money, cars, and bitches. I kinda agree with him, whoever the cracker was.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Perfect Example: Jay-z

  • Belize

    Your ghey looking

  • Belize

    i think bol’s goal in life is to be in rolling stone

  • thoreauly77

    youre a weird dude bol.

    i must agree with you though — we MUST bring men’s clothing back to rock and hip-hop! WHO WANTS TO WEAR THEIR LITTLE SISTERS PANTS? CAPITAL LETTERS!!!

  • Danja29

    Bol, you’re really fukkin’ up lately with these tired-ass blogs.

    I’ve liked rock since the 80s… not heavy into it, but always liked some good shit when I heard it.

  • Fernando

    Rap is in a decline lately, but not bad enough to listen to the crap Bol feels on (no bol). Gin BLossoms, Bloc Party, Gnarles, Mos Defs Rock album ALL SUCK!!!

    Gnarles Barkleys album was trash. Weezy playing the guitar in his video was one of the teh gheyest moments of 06-07.

    Nbred: “Black rock is more soulful”……Shut the hell up dude. You look for anything to big-up the black race. “Somehow salad tastes better in a black-owned restaurant”….retard.

    The pack is not even close to hipster. Thats just crazy ass Yay area fashion. Peep some Mac Dre Bol, you might learn somethin. “I do errythang, from fly fishin to skiing” – Mac Dre

    Its about expanding horizons which is different than teh ghey rock music that Bol listens to. One of my ghetto friends who pretty much just slangs & robs people is all into snowboarding recently. I dont know why either. But he did spend a few years in Oakland recently. Black rock hipsters are all over the place though, & Im not that mad. Its a helluva lot better than fake A*s gangsters.

    And what the hell you mean “see the light”???? Rock music sucks as bad as anything these days. I can understand if you are talking about 60′s or 70′s rock, but new rock???? Its all garbage, & Bol FEELS IT (nullus)

  • Hannah Smith

    MORE NON-HIP-HOP POSTS PLEASE!

  • Bang

    “For one, I’ve been listening to cracka-ass cracka music for years, and as much as I like the idea of other young jigs seeing the light, I could do without the tight pants and big belt buckles.

    what about jimmy jones and juelz? oh yeah, ICED OUT SKULL HEADS

  • Fernando

    alright…seriously,

    WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THE 10 MINUTE DELAY FOR EVERY POST. THIS IS CRAP!! TELL SPLINTER NUCCA TO FETCH SOME GUAP & CORRECT THIS CRAP!

  • Da B

    Ima Kill You BolHead

  • Da B

    Ima Kill You BolHead

  • pakman

    First

  • http://www.xxlmag.com chillywilly da3rd

    Hiphop has gone pop and it’s truest form is but a memory. So you black kids with angst or some creativity have to build somewhere and hip-hop currently won’t let you do nothing but fuck, smoke, drink,bling, stunt repeat.

    consign that.
    at the same time the music is so so so dry at this point the shit that goes a lil left feild the fucking hipsters eat it up like pound cake and the heads have to fuck wit it out of guilt or fear or being labeled a hiphop killer gotta love nasir for using the blingers reverse method against them so when the lupes clipses and reakwons of the world come out you are forced to open them shitty little ears will that result to sales tho i doubt it in truth i think the tall isralies know they could market and sale heady hip hop music but they rather go with the mindless 1 hit wonder souther act tax right off (inside penut butter guys are giving some excet a nice tax break as we speak)so its really the state of the game rappers should sign to indie rock lables could u picture how that would stir shit up the fader being the new xxl.another thing to indie rock hip hop mash ups it aint bad when its done right i could see the killers making a nice backdrop for some gutter hood shit but heads aint ready

  • http://www.xxlmag.com chillywilly da3rd

    wassup wit this goddamn site im posting responses the shit dont even come up

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Its dope that people are expanding their musical horizons but….indie rock is wack.

    Rock music is in a worse state than hip hop. In rock the only decent bands out now are the killers and the strokes. Hip Hop has plenty of artists still.

    SMH @ Bol thinking rap and rock haven’t been united before MOP’s rock album was sick and Rage Against The Machine was essentially a rapper flowing over metal

  • Q

    It is evolution whatever goes out of style comes back in. Hip hop defiantly went commercial and that means you are a puppet and your master is pulling your strings and today in music you have a bunch of people that do. Do not know a damn about what’s going on. In die music is real it is when the artists are grinding no money, sleeping on friends couch,lots of emotion goes into the songs and that’s why usually when a artist drops his first album the world usually feels it so much and it ends up being that artist biggest album because after that he is not hungry no more and there are surrounded by snakes and leeches that will defiantly take you out of your zone. I guess the best way to explain that is like when you really love someone and they leave you. You cant eat sleep work your whole world is turned upside down. But I strongly think the next wave is going to be this indie rock . This one artist that I think people should check out the heat.He is defiantly the next wave in the music industry Check out http://www.myspace.com/marcusorealiusmusic
    Check out http://www.myspace.com/marcmaysrockandrollthug

  • NickeNitro

    Rock music has been corporatized since before the 80s and hasn’t been good since the mid-70s. All the major labels have their subsidiary “indie” labels they don’t put their imprint on to create the facade. When the ties go public, the relationship is always described as being “only financial.” Um, okay. Indie rock is a marketing demographic for impressionable high school and college students who desperately want to look and think they are “smart.” It’s not some new, good music movement. It’s all the same tripe over and over again, hence the whole “sounds like…” thing they have to do — cause nothing sounds different than the rest.

    Hip-hop’s been incorporating that good Age of Aquarius rock sound for a long time now — ain’t nothing new there. The dilettantes at the New Yuppie Times have always been running a campaign against hip-hop and are only saying what they wish would happen. College rock is garbage. Nobody doing hip-hop is trying to assimilate with that.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com/?cat=29 noz

    at first glance i thought this post was going to be about dorothy ashby.

  • NickeNitro

    If hip-hop heads want to hear some good rock music, they should check out what’s crackin in the rock section @ http://www.dustygroove.com

  • http://insaneexistence.blogspot.com/ SANDINKA

    Maybe Jim Jones(No Sasson)
    Could Help Us Cross That Bridge!
    I’ve Always Liked Guitar Sound,
    Hence The Jay-Z/Lenny Kravitz Song
    “Guns & Roses” Which Was A Super
    Hot Song On A Super Suspect Album..

  • Looms

    WTF?!?!
    People are talking about this shit as if Bad Brains or Suffocation had never existed.

  • BIG ROB

    Bol couldnt be more wrong. The reason people are turning into rock is because we are tired of hearing the same ol’shit on the radio. How many different ways can some one get shot or flip birds or sell crack.

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  • mannyworld33

    TOILET BOL!

    I DON’T SEE WHY PEOPLE HAVE TO PIGEON-HOLE THEMSELVES INTO LIKING ONE GENRE OF MUSIC OR FASHION. I LIKE TO LISTEN TO ALL KINDS OF MUSIC FROM RAP TO JAZZ AND I WEAR WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT DEPENDING ON THE TIME AND THE PLACE.

    N-CRED UR A HATER!(NO WEEZY)

  • AZ

    I think us as blacks like a wide variety of things contray to popular belief. We started the shit so why the fuck not.

  • http://conanmagruder.livejournal.com Conan

    Bol…you love irony, too. Totally a blipster.

  • lol

    this blog is not hiphop

  • Denny Henriquez

    LIKE NAS SAYS HIP HOP IS DEAD UNTIL SHE COMES BACK I CAN”T KNOCK NO ONES HUSTLE IF THEY WANNA LISTEN TO GAY MUSIC.

    BUT IF WANNA LISTEN TO SOME GOOD MUSIC CHECK THIS OUT.

    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=146268660

  • Rizzop

    I dont hate on any type of music, but i just dont buy the shit. Black folks created rock so why not? While i dont agree you should wear shirts that show your spine through the back of the them, you should be able to enjoy whatever music you like. And blacks cant be surprised hip-hop is dying, if you call and request the same bullshit all the time, they wont play it on the radio! To get back to the point though, i think them dipset niggas and weezy are just trying to find a way to appeal to a wider (white) audience when they wear that tight ass shit. Hell, maybe they might even get an endorsement deal out of it ( That shit is gay though)

  • amedawg00

    The documentary of which that article refers to is available on the internets. As a black man who often goes to rock shows that are 99.9 white, I feel safer (the chances of getting gutted) at these punk shows where the worst thing that could possibly happen to an individual is getting kicked in the face by some uber fat geek who decided that he was no longer a fat ass and could crowd surf with impunity. Long live rock n roll!

  • NickeNitro

    amedawg00 Says:

    The documentary of which that article refers to is available on the internets. As a black man who often goes to rock shows that are 99.9 white, I feel safer (the chances of getting gutted) at these punk shows where the worst thing that could possibly happen to an individual is getting kicked in the face by some uber fat geek who decided that he was no longer a fat ass and could crowd surf with impunity. Long live rock n roll!
    _____________________

    And just imagine how white people feel at rap shows with all those scary black people around. I’m no dummy — I saw that anti-gun violence commercial on TV. I know black people are all “packing with heat” and looking to “bust the caps.” I haven’t been to a rap show since Smoking Grooves where everyone was high and thinking about stealing my wallet. Imagine if that security guard hadn’t let me stand next to him? P Diddy’s crew might have kidnapped me and held me for ransom in the ghetto!

  • ARE YOU SERIOUS BOL?

    youre gonna call gnarls barkely a rock group? the best example you can come up with of a black man in rock is lil wayne pretending to play guitar? THIS IS HOW YOURE GONNA SHOW THE NY TIMES JUST HOW INVOLVED AND CENTRAL BLACK AMERICANS ARE TO ROCK N ROLL???? this is the weakest fucking joke of a piece ive ever read from you bol. typically i like what you have to say, but this is insulting.

  • blaQ

    hip hop is dead, and rock is still not alive. punk rock is now boring…cant compare with the alt. rock of the 90′s.

    blacks basically invented the sh*t why wouldnt we listen to it…i enjoy a coldpay here a red hot chilli peppers there. if u only listen to hip hop 24/7 you need a brain scan…widen your horizons.

  • Hurricane Game

    Lil’ Wayne, who rocks big belt buckles and pretends to play the guitar

    He also kisses a grown man who NOT his father on the lips.(No homo)
    Sorry had to say it

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  • http://www.XLL.com Flossy145

    Yo fuck dat rock n roll shit iight listen jim jones is the nicest nigga out here in dis rap shit Nas is a ho3 jay is A Fag jim will kill dem niggaz in dis rap shit Ya Dig Homie!!!!!!!!!!!

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