DJ drama indeed

My fact-checking cuz Noz already went over a lot of the key points in this case, including the following: a) a mixtape operation such as DJ Drama’s is probably illegal, if not illegal as, say, selling heroin to school children, b) the RIAA is not, in fact, a government agency, but rather a trade group protecting the interests of the tall Israelis who run the music business, and c) it’s not like the tIs themselves haven’t benefited from the mixtape game.

Still, DJ Drama et al. probably should’ve known an operation such as theirs could only last so long. As fellow white southern rapper Jamie Radford put it, “Sampling and mixtaping of uncleared material has never been “legal,” per se, but it’s survived under a “live and let live” mentality. [...] But once somebody like Drama starts getting rich off mixtaping material owned by large labels and publishing houses who aren’t getting a cut, its not surprising that the industry people aren’t willing to let it slide.”

Now, without further ado, the winners and losers of the Gangsta Grillz SWAT raid:

Winners:

Tall Israelis. Obviously the tIs wouldn’t have sent the Feds in the first place if they didn’t think they’d somehow benefit from this financially. See, that’s how a tall Israeli’s mind operates. The real question is whether the tI’s plan to shut down the mixtape game altogether, or if they just want a piece. Just like the real mafia – or the government, for that matter.

People who don’t particularly care for mixtapes.
Mixtapes are ostensibly great because artists can use them as an opportunity to put out the kind of music they’d never be able to release on a major label, but let’s keep it real: When’s the last time an artist used a mixtape to put out anything other than the same ol’ bullshit they always do, albeit over beats they couldn’t afford otherwise?

Losers:

DJ Drama, obviously. Both DJ Drama and Don Cannon were both arrested during the raid and are currently being held without bond. Maybe their fellow inmates are big fans of Gangsta Grillz and will make sure nothing bad happens to them. Let’s keep our fingers crossed. I don’t even want to get into what could happen other than to say that there were rumors about 2Pac…

Record labels. Of course the tIs who own these companies stand to cake up lovely once it’s all said and done with, but what about the poor bastards who are charged with promoting this bullshit, who already couldn’t come up with any better ideas than leaking tracks to mixtape DJs? I know some of these d-bags jobs basically involved promoting records to mixtape DJs. They might wanna holler at Craigslist.

People who actually like mixtapes. Obviously DJ Drama can’t be in the studio working on the next Gangsta Grillz, if he’s in the joint purposely not washing his ass (not a bad strategy, btw). My guess is that a buncha other mixtape DJs might be rethinking their own careers before it’s too late. At the risk of sounding typically cynical, how many DJs will bother if there’s not a dollar to be made?

  • Combat Jack

    first!

  • Combat Jack

    furst!

  • Combat Jack

    I saw this one coming.

  • LUPE FIASCO

    THE TI’S JUST ETHERED THESE GANGSTA GRILL NIGGAS…. FIX YA FACE!

  • GuNNz

    sounds like bullshit to me….

  • FRANK

    so who’s next to get raided? hopefully they get bitch ass dj clue for the last professional or was that an actual “major” label release…

  • http://rashadlogic.wordpress.com UnFaded Disciple

    > Obviously DJ Drama can’t be in the studio working on the next Gangsta Grillz, if he’s in the joint purposely not washing his ass (not a bad strategy, btw).

    LMFAO.

    I read a few comments on here from Noz’s post. One of them said: “If ti wasn’t for Gangsta Grillz, rappers like Lil Wayne and Young Jeezy, wouldn’t be getting props like they do now”.

    Which is pretty debatable since both Dedication and Dedication II kinda established Wayne’s presence early on. Also, the same might be able to go with Jeezy and Can’t Ban The Snowman mixtape.

  • Sick of these Niggaz

    1st – Fuck ‘Em and all the other aging merks known as DJs, Record Breakers, or promoters…Fuck the Greg $treets, TJs DJs, Tony Neals, Kay Slays, Khaleds, etc., etc., who have turned the mixtape game into a whore business of PAYOLA!!! I hope these leeches never make another dime of what’s left of Hip-Hop Culture!

  • content

    tomorrow we’ll learn our abc’s

    Noz’s obviously does his research and it shows through his writing. It’s no wonder they just made his blog the cover story on here.

    As far as Drama …. gotta stay one step ahead playa or you will get caught.

  • Meka Soul

    >Both DJ Drama and Don Cannon were both arrested during the raid and are currently being held without bond.>

    i thought the idea of having a gajna moolie was for him/her to take the fall FOR you, not WITH you.

  • http://dman8784myspace.com dubldealing

    hey they do belong to “grand Hustle” someone was getting tired of seeing dude be the face of the dj’s and set word to the irs..we’ll see which dj’s do and don’t get raided next and narrow it down from there but obviously it was from someone on the inside working closely with these guys to leak out enuff info to the feds and shit to get them to be doing this to drama…this ain’t a good look right now at all for either on of these dudes..this is pretty big felony charges and this whole piracy shit has really become a pain in the ass since like 2002…but im thinking that the major record compaines wanted this shit to happen so they can get their artists to move more units instead of people by bootlegged shit and downloading the cd’s…this is just the tip of the iceberg in all this shit u watch!

  • TI #1

    First!!! Bitches!
    Fuck You Bol!

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    Dame Dash: Again, Jay’s a Black man, an African-American, and I wish any African-American good luck. It’s not diplomacy, it’s about the fact that as a culture, we don’t stick together, and that’s the problem. So even if somebody’s scumbagging me, I’m not gonna scumbag them back. I want that dude to be successful so that he can be another ambassador of our community, so that people can say “Oh, a Black kid did his thing.” I’m not gonna sit there and say what he did… I’m sure in his mind he thought he was right. That’s really where it stays. Me, I’m cut from a different cloth; I’m not like that. Everyone can be cut from any cloth that they want, I just choose to be around people from a cloth like myself. That’s just how I’ve been. If you notice, I haven’t been too social with too many people in the music business, ever. I don’t like the ethic, I don’t understand, I’m not from that place. So, to me, what he did to me contradicted what we were promoting to the world as Roc-A-Fellas, and guys that come from a certain place, but to a lot of people, it could be dead right. More power to him, hopefully he’s successful and I’m watching him work hard. But me, I’m about this fashion thing.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    i told yall J was a self-centered rat bastard…sorry i know its off topic but had to share with those who have faith in J

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    DJ Drama better not drop the soap!

  • http://WWW.MYSPACE.COM/LARRYBRITE Larry_Brite

    Well they better get EVERYONE THAN or else it’s just jacked up discrimination

  • mic rich

    1st whores

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    FREE DJ DRAMA! You snitched on him, didn’t you Ashlee?

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    the bottom line is you cant stop the shit…its gonna happen one way or the other..how can you stop people from making cds and selling them hand to hand…same with weed…the day mixtapes cease to exist is the day mofos wont be able to grow and sell weed…true story…

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    All the mixtapes do is hype up artists. If it weren’t for Trap Or Die, Down With The King, or Dedication. T.I, Jeezy, and Wayne wouldn’t get the props they have now.

    But I don’t really feel bad for the guy seeing as he dosen’t posses any talents aside from carrying T.I’s weed.

  • let the game begin

    what a useless post. like that free pedro dude iama say gosh!! gosh!!

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    all they gotta do is not put a name on it use a symbol or something that cant be traced back to you…as far as djs are concerned…oh and no more talkind on them joints, i hated that anyway…and for the rappers all they gotta do is say i had no involvement someone, i dont know who, mixed and mastered it…yes its my vocals but i had nothing to do with it…easy…just dont allow them a way to trace it back to you…

  • mannyworld33

    TOILET BOL!

    NOZ BEAT YOU TO THIS ONE BUT YOU STILL PUT YOUR LIL’ 2 HATES(CENT)IN
    ON THE SITUATION. THE BAD THING ABOUT THE WHOLE STORY IS THE COPS WERE TRYING TO SAY THAT THEY WERE GOING TO FIND “OTHER THINGS” THAT COULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH A LARGE SET UP LIKE THE ONE THEY HAD.
    I GUESS THEY WERE MAD THAT THEY DIDN’T FIND NO WEED OR COKE JUST SUM MIXTAPES!

    FUCK BOL! (NO N-CRED)

  • LONZO

    fuck the police.

  • LONZO

    fuck the police. fuck em.

  • Ali

    When’s the last time an artist used a mixtape to put out anything other than the same ol’ bullshit they always do

    ^^^^
    Well dudes like Saigon actually, have you heard Return of The Yardfather? Goddamn that’s some hot shit! All original beats too, but i see what you’re saying god knows how many wack rappers have freestyled over Jay-Z’s Kingdom Come beats because they’ll never be able to afford Dre’s kind of heat.

  • mannyworld33

    @ N-CRED

    WE ALL KNOW YOU DON’T LIKE JAY BUT YOU HATE THE FACT THAT PEOPLE KEEP MENTIONING THAT WEEZY KISSES MEN.

    GO CHECK OUT NAHRIGHT.COM AND LOOK FOR THE LARRY DAVIS INTERVIEW WHERE HE TALKS ABOUT DAME DASH AND HOW HE TRIED TO CUT HIM OUT OF A DEAL TO DO A MOVIE ON HIS LIFE STORY, OR HOW HE STOLE THE STATE PROPERTY SYMBOL FROM BEANS. I GUESS MAKIN’ ONE OF YOUR HOMIES VICE PRESIDENT OF A COMPANY THAT YOU CO-OWN WITHOUT DISCUSSING IT WITH THE CO-OWNER IS GOOD BUSINESS HUH? FUCK OUTTA’ HERE!

  • rizzop2003

    Two words :KAY SLAY! Its only logical….who else done had a problem wit the nigga?

  • Were Read 2 Def

    Who gives a fuck bout DJ TI.

  • mannyworld33

    http://www.zshare.net/audio/aimelarrykay3-mp3.html

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    @N-CRED CHECK IT OUT 4 YOURSELF!

  • EReal

    Yo when Rodney Biggs comes for Dj Drama in the shower, its gon be
    “Draaaaaaamaaatic!!”

    LMFAO!

  • Meka Soul

    looks like there’s a job opening up.

  • Meka Soul

    i did chuckle when the video showed the feds boxing up nothing but lil wayne mixtapes like they were child pornos.

    waitaminute…

    no “stomp the yard.”

  • EReal

    Yo that fuckface John Brown should stand in for Drama while he’s roped off, noone would notice the difference, I mean except for the Ghetto Revival.. lol!
    Naw, forreal tho, Ive already commented a couple times on this so imma keep it light.
    I mean, how come they didnt hit Whoo Kidd? Or Clue? or the thousand other DJ’s out there? I think this is bullshit and just a small example ,considering the FBI’s involvement, of how the corporations run the government. I mean shouldnt the FBI be busting drug runners or thworting terrorist acts? Instead they runnin up on John Brown for makin mixtapes?? Freedom my ass.
    We need to step up man, because this is how they’re wasting your tax dollars and when its all said and done, your social security wont be there for you either. We’re getting screwed man (No Paul Wall), We’re the ones getting arrested, We’re the ones suffering, We’re the ones getting sent off to war, and then a dude trys to make money by marketing a brand that he created, and they wanna bust him. WTF?? So now whats gonna happen to the up and coming mixtapers?
    You guessed it, theyre gonna go back to sellin crack to the kids.
    THANKS CORPORATE AMERICA!! AND FUCK YOU!(No Hurrcane Game)
    p.s. Bol, youre a post stealing blog whore. You just stole this shit and threw some anti semetic and homophobic shock shit in there like always. You’re trash. Co-Sign Manny!

    1 hunned

  • loosenut

    Kay Slay snitched on the homies Cannon and Drama…I bet…Let’s see how aphilliated them niggaz are for real now…The the Aphilliates…Pay attention…LOL…Two words Drama… Liquid Soap

  • loosenut

    Do I gotta post it again? Kay Slay snitched on the homies…

    Two words for Drama…Liquid Soap…

  • marlon

    RIAA is your tax dollars working to serve Universal and viacom and a bunch of other huge corporations that constantly get tax breaks you don’t.

  • BloodRaw

    i wonder if theyre gonna do asset seizure and take all of dramas shit

  • john cochran

    Why didnt they raid Danger Mouse to see if he was selling the Grey Album?

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    SMH @ NCRED hating on Hov but supporting Weezy(homo thug) and Dame Dash(idiot and rapist)

    EReal Says:

    January 17th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
    Yo that fuckface John Brown should stand in for Drama while he’s roped off, noone would notice the difference, I mean except for the Ghetto Revival
    ^^^^^^
    LOL he John Brown just needs to grow a grisly adams style beard(no tom brady)

  • john cochran

    There will be no more Mood Musiks, We got it for cheaps, or Dedications I bet.

  • cb

    Free Dj Drama and Dj Cannon the only reason they got booked was because now is buyin cds anymore and i still wont so fuck the RIAA

  • jacquez
  • Tyler

    Bol U a motherfuckin’ fool dawg. U kill me everytime, even since your post have been falling off of late, U still good for a laugh or 2. All I can say on the subject is dat I hope Dj Drama and Dj Cannon just don’t drop the soap while they are all up in the mix. Peep the street heat at:
    http://www.myspace.com/marcusorealismusic
    http://www.myspace.com/marcmaysrockandrollthug

  • Prince Of The South

    This is crazy, Major Labels benefit off mixtapes, because of the free promotion. Without mixtapes some of the bigger artists from the 2000s would still be sitting on some label head’s desk who’s too scared to take a chance on it. The thing about any profit there’s a certain amount of risk involved to make money, but with the mixtapes you can reduce that risk because you get to see what the public think. Just because you got a top 40 single doesn’t mean you hot because labels spend money to get records played. Without mixtapes artists like 50 cent, Kanye West, Fabolous, Jeezy, TI, and Cam’ron wouldn’t be as big as they are because some A&R would be too scared to take a chance on it. All the politics that majors have result in bad albums because they try and control the artist, telling them what types of records to make. Granted you need four singles on a record but anything beyond that is too much. Some of these people’s mixtapes are going to be better or are better than their actual albums (Chronic 2006>Buck The World, Loso’s Way>From Nothing to Something, Dedication 2>Like Father Like Son)

  • Avenger

    I don’t think this is going to effect mixtaping as a way of promotion or just stop mixtapes. This happened because this brainchild was getting into major retail chains with something that is just supposed to be on the low and controled. mixtape dollars are not supposed to be soundscanable. Hell mixtape money is supposed to be like drug money you can sell as many as you can and move on to the next no serious paper trail and to prevent this shit from happening. The Dj’s just need to charge the labels a fee as always to street team something (wink wink including puting on a mixtape and of course DJ wack Ass screamer on tape will get his money in the early surges). Mixtapes need to stay at car washes, fleamarkets and other neighborhood establishments when they are distributed by companies now you create a paper trail and a problem you push the whole legal issue.

    Now stop over reacting and go back to mix torrent and continue jacking these fuckers mixtapes damn!

  • Fernando

    I wonder if Drama will still think he is black after a stint in the Pen??

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    The RIAA needs to use their influence to go after the file sharing sites. Mixtapes are promo tools that don’t steal record sales and money from artists. Stop dudes from stealing and posting albums straight from the manufacturer and that’s your positive impact right there. UNO!

  • mosdef

    classic bol esp the bit about purposley not washing ass! if u stop with jigga nutsack clinging you’re brilliant dawg! i have 2 give that 2 u

  • Meka Soul

    The RIAA needs to use their influence to go after the file sharing sites.

    ay yo!

  • let the game begin

    man ncred is such a looser coming in here with a useless interview jus to try and shit on jay what a fag like he’s idol wheezy.

  • http://www.myspace.com/corinnemq Corinne

    E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    January 17th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
    All the mixtapes do is hype up artists. If it weren’t for Trap Or Die, Down With The King, or Dedication. T.I, Jeezy, and Wayne wouldn’t get the props they have now.

    But I don’t really feel bad for the guy seeing as he dosen’t posses any talents aside from carrying T.I’s weed.

    ^^^^True, I agree with this.

    ~~~~It’s funny though, it seems sometimes their mixtapes comes out better then their actual album.

  • Kornphlake

    Is there not a way to get these corporate ti’s out of hip-hop? Why do we need major labels in the age of the internet? The real question is, does Elliot Wilson support hip-hop or major labels? What’s more important, culture or profit? I’m pretty sure I know the answer to the previous question, but I’ll act like the answer is culture. Just stop buying any music from a major label, stop showing it in XXL. The internet is bringing about a new age of revolution, one that puts the power in the hands of the people. If the people speak dollars then the ti’s will have to listen. They can’t help it, they’re conditioned to speak money. That’s why they don’t understand mixtapes, they believe that they should be getting more money. But maybe if there was a backlash from this they would appreciate the money they already have a little more.

  • Bug$

    Bol, your a rascist “l.a.”, aren’t u?
    wash your own dirty ass…everybody know how they do it in the Lou (in the butt).

    Dudes be lookin out for Drama and Cannon because they represent for the people. Same dudes be tearin up your corny-ass cornhole in a hot minute. You represent for the ignorant.

    Free Cannon!
    Free Drama!!

    peace

  • Bang

    murder the dj

  • thoreauly77

    motherfuck the riaa. what a goddamn waste of time and tax-dollars. this shit just pisses me off. out of all the tragic shit that is happening in our country and the world… this is what takes precedence? busting and imprisoning mixtape dj’s????!???? holy jesus h. tapdancing christ!

  • Fuck Bol

    See Nas-Hip Hop is Dead video for more information…….Bol ya days is numbered in low digits.

  • elcapitan

    F weak azz DJ Drama… his mixtapes suck anyway, he best known for a shitty azz BEEF series(commentary) on BET where he gave all praise due to coke head T.I.

  • myspace.com/shalyk

    Go To wikipedia.com and search for Bol. some funny stuff

  • Danja29

    RIAA is using this as an example- nothing more, nothing less. They don’t give a fukk about any of these artists or these songs- this shit is about a muhfukka makin’ too much tax-free cash.

    And being that Drama is the most prominent right now, they used him to put everybody else on notice. If this was ’02, they’d have come at Kay Slay… if it was ’97, it woulda been Clue. But they’re crackin’ down on it NOW, so now it’s Drama. Mixtapes have BEEN illegal- and they’ve just been fukkin’ with these people since it became a big business.

  • B-Ease

    Jesus, I dont think I could have imagined something funnier happening. It’s one of those funny moments that’s so funny that I can’t even physically laugh.It’s like a dream…

  • B-Ease

    EReal Says:

    January 17th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
    Yo that fuckface John Brown should stand in for Drama while he’s roped off, noone would notice the difference, I mean except for the Ghetto Revival

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Holy shit, he looks just like that nigga. ROTFL

  • New York Nigga

    FUCK DJ DRAMA!

  • dat coonz nigga

    Tall Israelis dem jewz iz allways tryin to holdz a niggaz downz

  • PAC DEFENDER

    Bol ur a bitch for that Tupac line…

  • http://www.myspace.com/djdrama DJ Drama

    Y’all need to stop talking about me and get me outta here!!

  • marlon

    Meka and Rey say RIAA should go after filesharing sites but they have tried and lost. Filesharing sites are faceless and rely on soveriegnty thats why they are after the mixtape game now because they have to justify their existence by making some arrests most filesharing sites set up in open water or Sweden, Caribbean actually i think filesharing is even legal in canada, so its a way tougher arrest to make then some semi celebrity with a studio.

  • CoChese

    Damn, sellin Mixtapes Is like sellin Crack nowadays.

  • Stax On Deck

    FREE DJ-TheFuck-DRAMA and Don Cannon!
    FUCKING CRACKAS HATING ON SUCCESSFUL BLACK MEN DOING POSITIVE THINGS. YOU CAN’T STOP RACIST MUTHAFUCKAZ!!!!!!!

  • Irv

    Typical garbage Bol saying mixtapes are not an outlet to get material out that artists can’t put out on majors. Ever heard of Joe Budden’s Mood Muzik II…the sh1t was like an album to his fans since the “d-bags” as you put it won’t put his album out on Def Jam.

  • Da PartyStarter

    First part of Banning the Hip-Hop culture. Corperate America has had it’s run with our culture and since they have no use for it any longer, it’s about to become illegal.

    Hip-Hop= The Lee Harvey Oswald of American Culture.

    Watch and see…

  • NY FINEST

    Blame on Condolezza Rice ,that bitch dont like hiphop at all.that bitch favorite music is classical music.Since their suing her ass.Now she go after hip hop.

  • 11kap

    Music is dead. fuck the record business. All these years and they have been mooching off black talent and none of them have ever been arrested, so they make an example out of a couple djs? This shit is so corny. They still aren’t gonna make any money. I guess next they should go arrest some apple execs for making ipods. I bet you they won’t tho.

  • 11kap

    America is stuck on stupid. See what happens when you let krakkas ruin the world? They aint runnin shit.

  • babyboy

    neva liked mixtaspes anyway fck it, but u made me laugh bol, nice 1, 2pac got fcked in jail and cassidy 2
    ihihihih

  • blackman

    First selling mixtapes for promotional use is illegal so if you get caught you do your time like a man and don’t start crying and snitching. Secondly this nigga drama is one gready nigga how long do you think that record companies are going to suffer from lack of sales while dj’s sell tapes for 5 dollar a pop for pure profit. Yes dramas mixtapes helped wayne and Jeezy but drama made a lot more money from the deal because his is pure profit.

  • Hip Hop Lives in The South

    Wut the fuck is a T I?

  • uncnation

    fuck u bol u bitch ass nigga fuckin fag

  • http://www.freepedro.com pedro

    Wut the fuck is a T I?
    a ass hole thats what he is fuck the riaa send them to iraq to get hit wit a road side bomb lmfao:)

  • XICO

    FUCK NAAA MAN.

    I cop alot of mixtapes. Especially a lot of DJ Drama mixtapes. This is BULL shit.

    Nomore mixtapes!?!?!?!? Nomore Dedication 3!?!? Nomore Wrtier’s Block IV!?!? Now we have to settle for these garbage albums.

    -(sigh)-

    Does aybody know if underground rappers, who aren’t really with a major label are affected by this? A Papoose, Saigon, JR Writer, etc.

    Maybe it’s cool if they drop mixtapes using original beats and lyrics.

  • Cuban Link

    please, you are all making this out to be much more than it is.Have the feds done shit about stopping drug dealings, unless they become huge?DJ Drama was the Leroy Barnes of Mixtapes.No one gives a shit untill they start getting big.I mean they were making shirts with Gangsta Grillz on it, and official shirts, not those shitty knock offs u find in no name stores in the city.Mixtapes wont stop coming out.There are so damn many being pushed all the time, the feds wont waste time getting all of ‘em.Gangsta Grillz is finished, buut we’ll see about other mixtapes.

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    Fuck dj drama wigga ass.And fuck you bol damn nigga you is really sparyin your shit on xxl this month almost every blog i enter was done by you.fuckin lil nerd ass geek ass nigga.bol you is a real bitch for talkin dat shit bout Moslims fuck you and quit sparyin your bullshit all over.

  • Hurricane Game

    Whats with the T.I., Tall Israeli talk. Fuck You Bol!!!

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