Class of 1981

In case you’re not familiar with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, it’s kind of like the Baseball Hall of Fame, except that it’s mostly full of shit. From what I understand, it’s run more or less entirely by Jann Wenner from Rolling Stone magazine.

The first class of artists was inducted into the Rock Hall back in the mid ’80s and included the likes of James Brown, Elvis, and other such heavyweights. Since then, Eric Clapton has been inducted like nine times, while it took Black Sabbath over 10 years of campaigning just to get in once.

The way it works is that an artist becomes elgible for entry 25 years after the release of their first single. A big group like U2 will get in the first year they’re eligible, while less notable groups will end up waiting years and years, if they get in at all.

Up until just now, no rap groups have been inducted, but then it’s only been about 27 years since the first rap recordings were released. A few groups would’ve been eligible as recently as two years ago, but I guess they weren’t notable enough to get in right away.

This year, Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five will be the first rap group inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. If I’m not mistaken, their first single was released in 1979, not too long after the Sugar Hill Gang put out “Rapper’s Delight.”

I guess the first obvious issue is what about all of the hip-hop pioneers like Kool Herc who were around from the very beginning, but were already off smoking crack by the time rappers started recording? Will they just not be included?

My guess is that they will, but in some ancillary category that no one gives a shit about. According to the Wikipedia entry for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, there’s a separate category for “non-performers” that includes the likes of songwriters, producers, DJs, music industry executives, and journalists.

[Does that mean Bol could one day be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, albeit in some shitty side category? Sweet!]

The other main issue, which I’m sure you’ll all be less than eager to address, is that a lot of early rap music really isn’t that good. Granted, taste in music is (somewhat) subjective, but how many of you d-bags really listen to rap albums from 1982? (Other than Noz, of course.)

As such, it’ll be interesting to see how many rappers are deemed worth of entry into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in the coming years. Also, it’ll be interesting to see the response from both the fans as well as the artists themselves.

Which rappers should be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and should we give a shit anyway?

  • Ali

    Nas!

  • http://dronkmunk.blogspot.com dronkmunk

    Pimp C!

  • the one

    Run Dmc. Beastie Boys.

  • the one

    NWA

  • AR

    tupac,ice cube

  • the one

    Damn XXL get your server up. Shit dont post til 10 fuckin min later.

  • phuque

    [Does that mean Bol could one day be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, albeit in some shitty side category? Sweet!]

    ^^Actually I think in order to qualify you’d have to exhibit some sort of talent.

  • http://myspace.com/djchase247 Eastside Bread Maker

    DEEZ NUTZ!!!

  • Da PartyStarter

    Bol-
    First single they released was “Super Rappin” which actually had parts of verses from “The Message” near the end of the record. It was released on the Enjoy labelin ’82 if I’m not mistaken. Famous for the “Take The Train” break…..

  • Incilin

    I don’t know who should and shouldn’t be put in, but as far as if people listen to music from 1982 I think obviously they do. I mean someone has to at least listen to Flash to want him in the Hall of Fame. And I’ll tell you one thing, I still listen to The Message and it’s still one of the most brilliant songs I’ve ever heard. 25 years after the fact.

  • Atl’s own

    Outkast

    Cee-lo

    2 Live Crew

    Scarface

    2Pac

    but really we shouldn’t care. Lets make our own Hall of Fame!

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    I don’t really give a shit about awards, record sales, or hall of fames but I’ll list some hip hop artists that are deserving

    Wu-Tang
    Biggie
    Nas
    Rakim
    Kool G. Rap
    NWA
    Cypress Hill
    Krs One
    Slick Rick
    Doc
    Outkast
    Geto Boys
    Common

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    Public Enemy, N.W.A., Dr. Dre (as a producer/main stay), Marley Marl, LL Cool J, Russell Simmons, Rick Rubin, etc.

    the list could on and on “and on- she kept on, the bitch was alive before mothers born… (c)”

    Slick Rick too!

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    Wu-Tang
    Biggie
    Nas
    Rakim
    Kool G. Rap
    NWA
    Cypress Hill
    Krs One
    Slick Rick
    Doc
    Outkast
    Geto Boys
    Common
    Public Enemy, N.W.A., Dr. Dre (as a producer/main stay), Marley Marl, LL Cool J, Russell Simmons, Rick Rubin, etc.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    all worthy.
    http://www.myspace.com/ianlewismusicmanagement

  • MeccaMedina

    Afrika Bambaataa will be in the 82 class (2007)…Run DMC will be in the Class of 84 (2009), LL Cool J will be up for consideration with the class of 85 (2010) but I wonder if he’ll make it first shot…

  • DEEZ NUTZ

    Eastside Bread Maker Says:

    January 10th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
    DEEZ NUTZ!!!
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    THANK U, BUT I’M NOT A RAPPER (lol)

  • Lewy Hott

    Afrika Bambaata,Kurtis Blow, The Treacherous Three,Too Short,and Ice T in that order…All these people first recorded in or before 1982…

  • Da Voice Of Truth

    SOUTHERN RAPPERS ARE FUCK’N UP HIP-HOP!!!

  • Danja29

    Run-DMC’ll be eligible next year, and LL will be up in ’09… I think they’re as good as in.

  • Fernando

    I think it would be mad funny to organize campaigns to get extra-sub-par rappers into the hall of Fame.

    I can see it now..”Big Syke in 2010!!!”

    “Paperboy in 2015″
    HA!

  • pezee the jet eye

    jam master and his folk will def. be next…

  • FRANK

    rap should get their own hall of fame. much like the shitty wh1 honors show but make it actually stand for something.

  • P.J

    K-FED!!!

  • http://asdf.com First

    Induct Bun B. He knows the lead singer of Winger!

  • Were Read 2 Def

    Jay-Z
    Nas
    Wu-Tang
    Snoop
    Dr. Dre
    DMX
    Ghostface Killah
    2Pac
    Biggie (yes, w/ only 2 lps)
    Mobb Deep (fuck tha haters)

  • gluvnast

    the furious 5 was nominated two years ago when they were 1st eligible…out of all the artists coming out around that time in rap, that group was the MOST worthy to be considered…i mean they COULD HAVE inducted sugar hill gang, but OVER the furious five???? you gotta give them props on acknowledging the real from the fake

  • gluvnast

    also, RUN-DMC will be the next rap group to get in, definately…. they came out in ’82 and it’s not 25 years to their eligiablity is open now for the next one

  • http://www.myspace.com/poisonousdarthfc Poisonous Dart

    I bet that took you all of 15 minutes to write. One.

  • Combat Jack

    ^ “but really we shouldn’t care. Lets make our own Hall of Fame!”

    ^^ “rap should get their own hall of fame. much like the shitty wh1 honors show but make it actually stand for something.”

    NOT!!! That would result in some ghetto ass type of jiggery that I’d prefer not to exist. It’s not that Craker Jack’s ice is colder than the jig’s, I just hate BET, Vibe, Source types of fuckerish awards that currently glut our airwaves.

    No sell out, of course.

  • http://www.myspace.com/corinnemq Corinne

    INVISIBLE_HAND Says:

    January 10th, 2007 at 3:58 pm
    Wu-Tang
    Biggie
    Nas
    Rakim
    Kool G. Rap
    NWA
    Cypress Hill
    Krs One
    Slick Rick
    Doc
    Outkast
    Geto Boys
    Common
    Public Enemy, N.W.A., Dr. Dre (as a producer/main stay), Marley Marl, LL Cool J, Russell Simmons, Rick Rubin, etc.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    all worthy.
    http://www.myspace.com/ianlewismusicmanagement

    ]

    STFU, idiot

  • GuNNz

    i can’t wait til someone says lil weezle lol!

  • Belize

    Does that mean Bol could one day be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, albeit in some shitty side category? Sweet!

    ^In ur dreams buddy!

  • Belize

    Doc Dre is a shoe-win 4 the hall of fame!

  • wax

    “but how many of you d-bags really listen to rap albums from 1982? (Other than Noz, of course.)”

    lol

  • the SZA

    why should hip-hop give a fuck about the rock’n'roll hall of fame?

    I’m pretty sure BET will come up with some generic stepson equivalent of the RRHF in the near future. Those cheap ass chuckers love to imitate shit and make it corny for afro TV. & they’ll get Cedric the Entertainer to host.

  • Eman

    Fernando My campaign is for peter gunz and lord tariq 2010 Cappadonna 2015 with canibus getting lifetime achievement award.

  • DRAMATIC

    RAP HALL OF FAME ONLY HAS A FEW NAMES:

    JAY-Z
    CAM’RON
    JUELZ
    TUPAC
    EMINEM
    LUDA
    D.R.E
    SNOOP
    THE GAME

    thats about it & the old rappers just suck.

  • Bang

    PE, NWA, and the Wu

  • http://www.myspace.com/rcvthamc RCV tha MC

    Fuck the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, let’s have a separate one for the hip-hop culture.

  • http://aimsfest.blogspot.com ethan

    I sold a lot of records and a lot of people know me, now where’s my goddamn trophy?

  • jon jon–23

    NWA
    2 live Crew
    Run D
    Tupac
    Snoop Doggy Dog
    Ghetto Boyz
    Russell Simmons
    LL Cool J
    Dr. Dre and Ed. Lover
    Too Short

  • http://www.myspace.com/kracktheking KR

    Step ya blog game up…you’ve been slacking for months.

  • Killa

    50 Cent
    Dr dre
    ice cube
    snoop
    ll cool j
    2 pac
    Slick Rick
    Doc
    Outkast
    Geto Boys
    nas
    Rakim

  • J S-O-T

    lol Dramatic, wtf are you on?, Cam’ron?, Game?, c’mon man i like the Game but hall of fame? lol, can’t be serious

  • NickeNitro

    Hip-hop should start it’s own HOF and turn down any offer they make.

    We all know Rolling Stone is on some corporate BS. They have JUST ONE hip-hop record in their top 100 of all-time, which has nothing to do with the fact that rap hasn’t been around that long — Rolling Stone’s sample for their “best” 500 are records that have come out on major US labels since the 60s. Hip-hop’s been around for the majority of that time.

    Obviously, Rolling Stone’s selections are based entirely on what their industry advertisers are still pressing up and can sell to their readers — nothing more, nothing less. Same thing the Rock&Roll HOF, the Grammy’s, and any other industry dictated corporate garbage. Do I have to point out the absurdity that the first P-Funk album on the list doesn’t come until Funkadelic’s “One Nation” at #177!!?

    And what purpose does the 25-year wait serve? To let Rolling Stone and the corporate industry dictate which musicians are continually drubbed into the collective consciousness and which one’s are forgotten by the time their time comes around.

    In my rap HOF, I would first induct:

    James Brown
    Parliament/Funkadelic
    The Last Poets
    Gil Scott-Heron
    Richard Pryor
    Sun Ra
    Herbie Hancock
    The Meters
    Isaac Hayes
    Curtis Mayfield
    Booker T
    Marvin Gaye
    Old Calypso music
    Prince Buster
    King Tubby
    Bob Marley & the Wailers
    David Axelrod
    The Mizell brothers
    Kraftwerk
    Kool Herc
    Grandmaster Flash
    Grand Wizard Theodore
    The Cold Crush Brothers
    The Sugarhill Gang
    Afrika Bambaataa
    Spoonie Gee
    Kool Moe Dee

  • who cares

    this article sucks balls

  • skip

    dramatic i guess rakim sucks right

    my list

    2pac
    biggie
    jay-z
    nas
    rakim
    dr.dre
    n.w.a.
    ice cube
    outkast
    scarface
    krs-one
    puffy(4 more than just music reasons)

    there’s more but r they really worthy
    meaning there’s producers who should be there

  • Hurricane Game

    2pac
    biggie
    rakim
    chuck d
    Bol?

    Nah fuckin wit ya. Bols the finger snap dancer of hip hop blogging.

  • BOL

    I suck nads

  • http://none killa black

    SKIP LIST IS ON POINT, BUT YOU DIDNT HAVE WU-TANG, THEY SHOULD BE ON THERE AND KANE, THE WHOLE JUICE CREW AND THEN YOUR GOOD.

  • jacquez
  • http://www.myspace.com/meanassmo Marvelous Mo

    “why should hip-hop give a fuck about the rock’n’roll hall of fame?

    I’m pretty sure BET will come up with some generic stepson equivalent of the RRHF in the near future. Those cheap ass chuckers love to imitate shit and make it corny for afro TV. & they’ll get Cedric the Entertainer to host. ”

    LOL I cosign with that.

  • mannyworld33

    TOILET BOL!

    THIS POST IS SHITTY!

  • http://www.myspace.com/16kingz cuzo

    I could give a hot horny fuck wit’ vivica fox about the rrhf! we don’t need these craka ass honkeys to recognize skill or the movement!! they pullin that shit so we feel like they validate us or sumin!! fuck yo’ hall of fame you white jive honkeys! Damn right I said it “JIVE” mutha’fucka! I petition for grand master to piss in that hall and on any other accolades he just now receiving from these faggots after fuckin’ generations in the game!! hell if you gon’give’m that shit can I get my reparations!? “FUCK THE ROCK&ROLL HALL OF FAME!”

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    There is nothing more satifying than getting recognized by your own people…can someone say hip hop honors…fuck the rock and roll hall of fame…

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    hey cuzo the feeling is mutual my friend

    *raises fist in the air black glove and all*

  • Rizzop

    How they get into the rock and roll hall of fame but dont make rock and roll music? We need a hip hop/rap hall of fame since they already do hip hop honors.

  • EReal

    This ones obvious.
    Why they fuck would you wanna be in the RRHF when youre not a rock n roller? You’re a hiphop group. Besides how much you think this really means to them, unless it comes with a check? I mean shit, grandmaster is broke as fuck in the south bronx man. LOL.
    Seriously, we have the HipHop honors, and before long Im sure we’ll have a HipHop Hall of our own, so fuck them.
    Im sure this is some kind of way that the whites are trying to claim HipHop by tying it to rock music, see my meaning?
    How bout instead, they induct all the blues musicians from the south that created Rock music, before Elvis stole it. Thank them, or else you honkey fucks would still be doing country. (Which actually sells better than HipHop now adays, lol)
    My .02
    Peas.

  • let the game begin

    fuck rock n roll hall of fame who the hell gives a shit about this shit exept for honkies like bol

  • let the game begin

    Does that mean Bol could one day be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, albeit in some shitty side category? Sweet!]
    ^^^^^
    the only way you’d be inducted into that shitty RNRHOF is if they had “the black guy who hates successful black guys” category

  • let the game begin

    bol you cant fade me you hATER

  • TF

    RUN DMC 2PAC
    BEASTIE BOYS SCARFACE
    SALT N PEPA OUTKAST
    NWA BIGGIE
    NAS SUGAR HILL GANG
    JAY-Z (AND PROLLY A HELL
    WU-TANG OF ALOT MORE THAT
    SNOOP THAT I FORGOT)
    MC LYTE MYSPACE.COM/TFHEZZY
    LL COOL J

  • EReal

    LOL^

    Or the Oreo Blogger category.
    LMFAO

  • rec

    y’all forget so quickly…Hollywood Hav said: “This is Rock ‘n Roll for the black people”. Really don’t believe in all this separation shit, if they didn’t include hiphop, everyone would be bitchin’…make up your minds y’all!

  • Were Read 2 Def

    don’t forget about Jacquez. right?

  • nwa

    krs one n.w.a. wutang tupac doggpound mobb deep the doc rakim beastie boys rundmc FUCK THE POLICE

  • nyc

    HOVA

  • Cuban Link

    good looks, Flash deserves it hes one of the best.My guess, peeps like Beastie Boys, Run DMC, and all those guys that u really think of when u hear of old skool rap will get in.People who are important but kinda forgotten, like Kurtis Blow and X-Clan, prolly wont make it in.Hopefully, Afrika Bambaataa will get in, because all in all he really was the one who started hip hop.Or maybe they should just right up Zulu Nation, but a lot of controversy would come with that with them being a gang and all.My only hope is that only people who deserve it and are revolutionary will get in.Like people like Tupac, Biggie, Eminem, Dr Dre, Snoop Dogg, and Jay-Z will most likely get in.Hopefully lesser known ones in mainstream America like Big L will get in.But, I really hope whack people that are just on top now because theres noone good out like Weezy or Jeezy will never get a shot at the Hall of Fame

  • Jay

    Bol, this post sucks bols!

  • http://www.www.com Jay

    Bol, this post sucks bols!!

  • http://www.adulthostedblogs.com/?w=tonigillingham Zackery Billings

    I think this one doesn’t make any sense: breungles, mentioned somewhere