Where are they now?

You know, every week I do one of these posts where I mock some rapper for underperforming on this week’s Billboard, and invariably one (if not many) of you d-bags responds with something along the lines of, Well, why should I give a shit about album sales anyway?

The thought being that as long as the album is good, who cares if it sold 10 copies or 10 million. Will it sound any different to Rey, to use an example, after a long day of working the sour cream gun at Taco Bell?

Plus, who’s to say how many albums sold constitutes a successful rap album these days? If Food and Liquor only sold 80,000 copies its first week out, why not just make that the new benchmark?

Well, for starters, who’s going to pay for this shit? It’d be one thing if rappers were just recording albums in their basements and putting them out for free over the Internets like Roosevelt Franklin, but they aren’t.

Major record labels spend insane amounts of money producing and promoting artists under the assumption that said artists are going to sell a shiteload of copies. What happens if they don’t?

On the track “Where Are They Now?” from Hip-Hop Is Dead, Nas wonders aloud what happened to a whole slew of shitty rappers from the late ’80s and early ’90s. You get the idea that the vast majority of them didn’t decide of their own volition to quit the music biz.

Indeed the annals of popular music in general (no Weezy F Baby), let alone hip-hop, are filled with poor bastards who couldn’t move enough units and hence were forced to go back to robbing banks or managing a Church’s chicken or whatever.

Let’s face it: If there wasn’t a dollar to be made, most of your favorite artists wouldn’t have begun rapping in the first place.

The real question is, could hip-hop music in general meet the same collective fate as, say, Little Brother. If people keep not buying rap albums, how long will major labels bother trying to promote them? A case could be made that this is already happening.

So you see, album sales aren’t just an important issue, they’re arguably the most important issue of all. My bad if discussing them makes you feel bad about your life. (But, um, not really.)

  • INVISIBLE_HAND
  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    ha! had to do it.

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    go watch apocalypto!

  • Port_o_Prince

    ….these labels need to look at the climate of music biz fucking cd burners, p2p networks, mirc, ipods, etc… are the reason why album sales are down…unless u a big artist w/ a strong following chances are u not gonna sell…prime example Jigga back in ’98 he would have went plat in 1 week with the promo he had.

  • content

    Bol,
    curious…how do concert attendence records for recent years stack up because they can also be a gauge and are more immune to the downloading era

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    BFF = bol + rey

  • thoreauly77

    album sales don’t matter.

  • Mr. Good Life

    With more artists like Dipset (I know…I know), Fat Joe, and Ice Cube going independant, maybe more artists will see that being on a major isnt what it use to be. Yea you dont get that big push that a major gives you, but you’re not selling as much records anyway, so why not go indie?

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    You really think rap would disappear if the majors stopped promoting them? Ashlee, You know just as well as I do that White Boys and White Girls buy the majority of rap albums sold. Among the reasons they do include the rebellion factor. Nothing scares Mr. and Mrs. White America more than their little white children exploring minority culture, Black Culture in specific. Rebelling via punk emo goth rock isn’t gonna scare parents who grew up with hair metal, alice cooper, and the ramones. No matter what they say, Cracka America is racist as fuck, & is scared of Black Culture, so they don’t want Noz & Tara (i had to) listening to rap. So yeah, sales don’t matter, cuz it’s not like the demand isn’t there. Downloading is killing album sales, not necessarily the quality of music. Also, I don’t work at Taco Bell, but thanks for using your 15 minutes to insult me yet again. Good job, Ash. UNO!

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    If people keep not buying rap albums, how long will major labels bother trying to promote them? A case could be made that this is already happening.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    everybody is gonna be independent pretty soon then right……..?
    does that mean hip-hop music will be straight underground?if so…i cant wait.no more labels screwing up classics.no more label drama.god forbid hip-hop only be made by individuals who actually care about the artform.

  • Dee

    The future for MOST rappers (i hate to say) is the independent route b/c like BOL stated above the Major Labels are not goin to keep payin for artists that sell less than Gold everytime they come out.
    ——————————
    BoL will you do a review of the movie Apocalypto?

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    Also, I don’t work at Taco Bell, but thanks for using your 15 minutes to insult me yet again. Good job, Ash. UNO!
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    lol.

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    BoL will you do a review of the movie Apocalypto?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    (after viewing it 2 times)heres mine:
    inacurate but very enjoyable movie.
    peep sacrifice scene!

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Also, Ashlee, there probably should’ve been a No Confessions Of Fire Album Cover after ‘sour cream gun’.

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    LMAO @ Bol and Rey’s teh ghey relationship

    Album sales don’t signify the actual quality of the album.

    Rappers just aren’t real hustlers if not they would know how to market themselves properly and cater to their stregnths.(like working with producersthat they have chemistry with or making songs that appease their core audience)

  • E AKA EL REAL NORIEAGA

    LMAO @ Bol and Rey’s teh ghey relationship

    Album sales don’t signify the actual quality of the album.

    Rappers just aren’t real hustlers if not they would know how to market themselves properly and cater to their stregnths.(like working with producersthat they have chemistry with or making songs that appease their core audience)

  • E AKA EL REAL NORIEAGA

    chhea

  • Tom

    good post.

    support your favorite artists.

    nuff said

  • E AKA EL REAL NORIEAGA

    Memphis Bleek=Greatest Weed Carrier Of All Time

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    support your favorite artists.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    EVERYBODY I KNOW BURNS EVERYTHING!
    IM THE ONLY PERSON I KNOW OF THAT BUYS CD’S!

  • nana

    bol is talkin some sense, i guess then hiphop wil change and somethin different could come up. a different type of music!!!!!!!!!!! before hiphop black people used to do blues and jazz music. and even rock and roll!!!!!!!! i guess it is more or less a cycle!!! if hiphop gets underground then we will hear good classics. not rappers bragging abot their chains and platium teeth!!!!!! nooooooo stupid rap song, i dont mean to dis but, hyphy music and crunk music sucks!!!!!! to me. noooooo weak rappers from da south!!!! especially slim thug, chamillionaire was weak on da one blood remix.
    !! with weak flow!!. dont get me wrong i rate some rappers from da south. but if da record labels drop hiphop it is possilble dat rap music could be tooo violent!!!! becos dat is what will sell underground, since those major record labels will not scensor it!!!!!!!! i guess it is food for thought.

  • mannyworld33

    toilet bol! you continue to flip flop on this subject, depending on your opinion of certain artists you will pull the sales card which is bull.
    Jay sold 680k first week and you still hated on him. The Clipse & lupe sell 80k and they get a “catch a brick” headline. Game didn’t do as well as everyone thought he would and you said nothing! And you I guess you scared(yes sicamore!) to say any thing about Jim Jones so once again….

    FUCK BOL! ( NO MEN ON FILMS)

    GET @ THIS CHUMP REY!

  • mannyworld33

    Toilet bol! you continue to flip flop on this subject, depending on your opinion of certain artists you will pull the sales card which is bull.
    Jay sold 680k first week and you still hated on him. The Clipse & lupe sell 80k and they get a “catch a brick” headline. Game didn’t do as well as everyone thought he would and you said nothing! And you I guess you scared(yes sicamore!) to say any thing about Jim Jones so once again….

    FUCK BOL! ( NO MEN ON FILMS)

    GET @ THIS CHUMP REY!

    they tried not to let me post this!

  • E AKA The REAL NORIEAGA

    Ay!

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    Good post! So u think hip hop is on the verge of being the next heavy metal?

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Bol is a 25 year old single college graduate who works at K Mart & still watches The Real World. God has already ethered him. Anything I do would just be beating a dead horse. Nullus.

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    Rey – So since u just compared hiphop to heavy metal..then u just said that hiphop is lookin to go down the same path

    I hope not

  • http://xxlmag.com thats him thats that bastard

    shit i burn everything….just so i can hear it first…because radio isnt the same anymore im tired of hearing the same 10 songs. So i down load all new shit(damn near everyday) and put it in the car. But if i come across a cd that i feel is worth the purchase then i’ll buy the real shit for the house becuase cheap niggaz are less likely to steal a bootleg cd or some shit.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    I meant the rebellion factor of rock vs the rebellion factor of hip hop, not the commercial prospects of either.

  • http://xxlmag.com thats him thats that bastard

    oh yeah Bol…besides you and ol girl tara why is it you two are the only ones that keep a fresh blog…the resto of the niggaz need to get on they shit…

  • B-Ease

    Rey says:

    Ashlee, You know just as well as I do that White Boys and White Girls buy the majority of rap albums sold. Among the reasons they do include the rebellion factor. Nothing scares Mr. and Mrs. White America more than their little white children exploring minority culture, Black Culture in specific. Rebelling via punk emo goth rock isn’t gonna scare parents who grew up with hair metal, alice cooper, and the ramones. No matter what they say, Cracka America is racist as fuck, & is scared of Black Culture, so they don’t want Noz & Tara (i had to) listening to rap. So yeah, sales don’t matter, cuz it’s not like the demand isn’t there.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Part of the problem is that hip hop is not the same music that scared the shit out of white parents in the 90′s.Now, everybody loves Snoop, white parents and kids alike.Contrast this with 1994 when he was the most dangerous man in America (not literally of course).just look at his rolling stone cover from back in the day to the current one.and this huggability of rap stars doesnt end with snoop (jay,50,etc.)Sales are declining in part because of this.White kids will always buy albums but hiphop isnt black rebellion anymore,its pop (like it or not) and without the ability to scare their parents, white kids just arent interested in what some black guys that act just like the kids they go to school with have to say.

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    Yeah but the rebelion factor of hiphop is what makes white kids buy hiphop albums

  • B-Ease

    i think the reason that artist that wouldve gone platinum two years ago putting out crap (jibbs,unk) arent doing so because white kids arent into it. the middling sales that artists these days do have is what hip hop would have looked like the past ten years if only black people bought hip hop albums.

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    Its kind of sad when public enemy is replace by the coup (im not hatin but big, big difference)…and NWA is replaced by Gunit

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    NWA is replaced by Gunit
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    A SICK JOKE!
    U SHOULD BE SACRIFICED TO GODS FOR THIS.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    The thought being that as long as the album is good, who cares if it sold 10 copies or 10 million. Will it sound any different to Rey, to use an example, after a long day of working the sour cream gun at Taco Bell?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    that shit was funny

    but anyway….the real question is does Hip-hop have a Life Cycle like other products marketed to the consumer…answer…NO…hip hop is part of the people from the people so it may and will change on the surface but the fact will always remain that hip hop is a way of life…as far as corporate interest yes they should be concerned with the fall off and the alternatives out there…maybe they need to do some vertical intergation (go read a book)…or like i said stop being greedy and go down on theprice of cds…back in the early 90s cds use to cost 18.99 then 14.99 and now 12.99 (10.99 on first day)…im sure this drop was due to technology and its advances…well time to look at that price again…i say the max should be 8.99 (after first day)…and do like master P did and 50 is doing…offer more for the money…via number of songs and throw in a dvd on a day in the life of the artist all while showing the process of making the album…smell me…

  • B-Ease

    hip hop artists making a turn en masse to independence may make the music more pure,no restrictions.the question to me is: will there be any artists to take advanatage of this creativity? what 12 year old kid now sitting on jayz-like talent is going to want to be a MC if hes not going to be rich and famous??

  • http://differentkitchen.blogspot.com/ ian

    Like my dude Nick Catchdubs said, if U don;t work at a record label who gives a f-ck about soundscan sales. Lots of BS hip hop sells and lots of great music get slept on.

    If major labels put out less hip hop so what? Trust me, there will be plenty of indies around to pick up the better groups.

    And on an unrelated note Rey, Hip Hop culture does not equal Black culture.

  • http://xxlmag.com thats him thats that bastard

    Rock and rap to me are on the same path. Shit i was heavy in rap shit now i find myself fucking with r&b more and more. But i know whats going to happen r&b is going to become gangsta…lol…but i dont really feel that hyphy and crunk shit not unless its in the club and bout high as a 747…thats the only time its hot…which says alot

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    rappers got lazy with it…they are flooding the market…thats what is wrong…ask Kanye why he is falling back…because he is smart…we dont need a album every 9 months…unless your Weezy and can produce heat on a consitent basis…his versatility is what got you mofos listening…put in more time…stop using formulas…make the albums a true work of art…

  • content

    >Hip Hop culture does not equal Black culture.

    yeah that’s assumed way too much on here

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    content Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 3:16 pm
    >Hip Hop culture does not equal Black culture.

    yeah that’s assumed way too much on here
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    could hip hop exist w/o black culture

  • B-Ease

    Part of the problem is that hip hop is not the same music that scared the shit out of white parents in the 90’s.Now, everybody loves Snoop, white parents and kids alike.Contrast this with 1994 when he was the most dangerous man in America (not literally of course).just look at his rolling stone cover from back in the day to the current one.and this huggability of rap stars doesnt end with snoop (jay,50,etc.)Sales are declining in part because of this.White kids will always buy albums but hiphop isnt black rebellion anymore,its pop (like it or not) and without the ability to scare their parents, white kids just arent interested in what some black guys that act just like the kids they go to school with have to say.
    think the reason that artist that wouldve gone platinum two years ago putting out crap (jibbs,unk) arent doing so because white kids arent into it. the middling sales that artists these days do have is what hip hop would have looked like the past ten years if only black people bought hip hop albums.

    hip hop artists making a turn en masse to independence may make the music more pure,no restrictions.the question to me is: will there be any artists to take advanatage of this creativity? what 12 year old kid now sitting on jayz-like talent is going to want to be a MC if hes not going to be rich and famous??

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    INVISIBLE_HAND Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 3:07 pm
    NWA is replaced by Gunit
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    A SICK JOKE!
    U SHOULD BE SACRIFICED TO GODS FOR THIS.

    ^Yeah..but it true…add to the fact that we got A+ replaced by BowWow…think bout it!

    A+ replaced by bow wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • let the game begin

    wow Bol actually didn’t mention jay’s name on this one.!!!!!!!!

  • B-Ease

    could hip hop exist w/o black culture

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Hell no. it was born out of an oppression that is unique to african-americans in this country.the climate of NY in the 70′s mixed with disenchantment from civil rights birthed this, the most aggressive musical form ever. couldnt have been made by anybody but a brother.

    black does not equal hip hop but hip hop equals black, if that makes any sense.

  • http://xxlmag.com thats him thats that bastard

    content Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 3:16 pm
    >Hip Hop culture does not equal Black culture.

    yeah that’s assumed way too much on here

    I co-sign to extent

    reason is because thats what were judged on and half the time street niggaz hold on to songs as the bible when its just entertainment…

  • http://xxlmag.com thats him thats that bastard

    Belize Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 3:25 pm
    INVISIBLE_HAND Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 3:07 pm
    NWA is replaced by Gunit
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    A SICK JOKE!
    U SHOULD BE SACRIFICED TO GODS FOR THIS.

    ^Yeah..but it true…add to the fact that we got A+ replaced by BowWow…think bout it!

    A+ replaced by bow wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    A+ another hot ass rapper never to be heard from outside of the lost boys shit he did

  • content

    >could hip hop exist w/o black culture

    you really need to stop over-thinking things…you’re gonna hurt yourself

    i believe the question was, does black culture = hip hop culture. i think it would be pretty hard to make an argument for the above statement seeing that it’s not exactly a ‘which came first, the chicken or egg question’.

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    Tell me if im wrong…

    Id prefer Everlast (right now) than Eminem (right now-not 1st & 2nd LP eminem–”gangsta/gunit rida eminem)

    THINK BOUT IT!!!!!!!!!

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    ABC replaced by pretty ricky!

    BY PREETY RICKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THINK BOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    ANYBODY ON THIS BLOG WHO DOSEN’T COP “HIP HOP IS DEAD” 2MORO…
    …SHOULD BE SACRIFICED TO GODS

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Slow comment day

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Dipset=the new NO LIMIT

    G-Unit=the new DEATH ROW

    Rap is way way less talented now
    Enough said

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    Belize I BEG U TO STOP!
    MY STOMACH CAN ONLY TAKE SO MUCH…

  • Scorpio1970

    The issue isn’t the mention of sales. The issue is the fact that it has become a way of judging work that has little to do with the quality of the material. You often back up your ridiculous arguments with sales numbers that agree or ignore numbers when they contradict your dumbass comments. It can’t work both ways. Historically, Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer outsold all solo rap acts in the number of units moved. That doesn’t cause either of them to be relevant today. Is Please Don’t Hurt Them Hammer a better disc than Criminal Minded? It outsold the disc by over 10 MILLION COPIES. The only people that love hip-hop that should worry about the Interscope Records soundscan numbers (do the history of the creation of soundscan) are the people that those numbers affect the bank accounts of. Everyone else should listen to the music they like regardless of the numbers the artists do. Also, stop talking about the decline of HIP-HOP sales. It is an overall decline in CD sales market-wide that is of issue. You belittle the market adjustment that has occurred in access channels. By the way, we have only our 2nd Platinum rapper this year being certified tomorrow. Good thing TI came out when he did (earlier in the year) or we would have only had one. But oh yeah, you think Jay-Z’s cd sucks so you will have to put a negative spin on his numbers. Oh yeah you are going to take about the amount of promotion again, huh? You are such a bitch.

  • Gama

    Go get that Hip Hop Is Dead tomorrow. Fuck that lil bow wow shit get that real hip hop even though it’s dead!

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT

  • D

    malaise

  • Young A. Simmons

    I go away for 2 weeks and there are like 5 new songs in the bangers section. either it’s a slow fortnight for hiphop or some asian tech geek needs to step his shit up.

    noz = kevin earl federline of xxlmag.com.

  • http://www.myspace.com/poisonousdarthfc Poisonous Dart

    This blog took about 15 minutes to write and it shows. Who cares if you post 5 times a week if garbage like this^ is the end result? Step your pen game up! One.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    I’m definitely not saying hip hop IS black culture and vice versa. I’m just saying that to White America and to older heads, they’re the same thing. I’m sure white america would list 50 Cent or Michael Jordan ahead of Kofi Annan or Condi Rice if they were asked about black folks in the public eye. Oprah would be mentioned as well, but you know what I mean. The short version is that popular Hip Hop today is what Corporate America wants young white consumers to think Black Culture is. Don’t try knocking me as stereotyping shit, ya’ll know I place responsibilty on the individual regardless of race, income, etc etc. TRES!

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    E aka el real norieaga

  • content

    >I’m sure white america would list 50 Cent or Michael Jordan ahead of Kofi Annan or Condi Rice if they were asked about black folks in the public eye. Oprah would be mentioned as well

    @Rey
    so……. two out of the three you mentioned have absolutely nothing to do with hip hop.

    but good point though

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    content Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 3:29 pm
    >could hip hop exist w/o black culture

    you really need to stop over-thinking things…you’re gonna hurt yourself

    i believe the question was, does black culture = hip hop culture. i think it would be pretty hard to make an argument for the above statement seeing that it’s not exactly a ‘which came first, the chicken or egg question’.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    since hip hop is a way of life…i say yes black culture = hip hop culture….we started it and others came along for the ride…America would be boring and bland with out us influencing the society…in all forms of entertainment…

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Take That Take That

    ITS BAD BOY!!!

  • B-Ease

    since hip hop is a way of life…i say yes black culture = hip hop culture….we started it and others came along for the ride…America would be boring and bland with out us influencing the society…in all forms of entertainment…

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    black does not equal hip hop but hip hop equals black, if that makes any sense.

  • content

    >i say yes black culture = hip hop culture

    Did black culture exist before hip hop?

    if you agree the answer is yes then you must also agree black culture does not = hip hop culture

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    LMAO @ Bol and Rey’s teh ghey relationship

    Album sales don’t signify the actual quality of the album.

    Rappers just aren’t real hustlers if not they would know how to market themselves properly and cater to their stregnths.(like working with producersthat they have chemistry with or making songs that appease their core audience)

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    Last one before u HURL
    (*Jim Jones voice*:VOOOMMMMMIIIITTTTT!!)

    Common (resurection style) is replaced by Common (vegan style)

    Flava Flav (Yeahhh boy!) is replaced by Flava Flav (V.H.ONNNNEEE)

    ^Yup..HipHop is not dead..just in a Coma

    (*jimmy voice again: SLLLLEEEEPPIINN!)

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    content Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 4:19 pm
    >i say yes black culture = hip hop culture

    Did black culture exist before hip hop?

    if you agree the answer is yes then you must also agree black culture does not = hip hop culture
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    yes but it was and is not the same since hip hop…

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    black culture does not = hip hop culture.

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    Who ever thought that Will.I.Am would get all over Game, Nas and Snoop’s albums before Primo
    While Primo is all over Xtina’s album

    Somebody pinch me (no homo)

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    INVISIBLE_HAND Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 4:22 pm
    black culture does not = hip hop culture
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    everyone take a moment to acknowledge him…proceed…

    ok…so finish this for me…

    hip hop culture = __________

  • jacquez
  • content

    >yes but it was and is not the same since hip hop

    it is if you view them separately

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    Look!
    Black culture does not = hiphop culture (right now, ask the Asian community)

    BUT!

    Black culture started hiphop culture, so they are the forefathers.

    Deal wit it, get over it, move one

    Rock started by Black floks..but u dont hear Eric Clapton arguing!

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Ballin rmx > than any form of ballin

    Don Omar and Tego murk that song

    Bol Do a post on Kurupt I heard “streets is a mutha” for the first time in years

    Kurupt=that nucca

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    LOL @ NBRED.

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    @Dj Nbred:
    watch City of Men..they got a good episode where they show Brazil as the #1 hiphop country in Latin America…shyt is global now son!

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    Who ever thought that Will.I.Am would get all over Game, Nas and Snoop’s albums before Primo
    While Primo is all over Xtina’s album

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I KNEW U WHERE GONNA GO THERE…

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    FutureSexLoveSounds > any Hip Hop album this year

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Hip Hop culture, to me, has always been looking at yourself and the world thru a fresh point of view, it’s the backward hat, shoes without laces, rhyming when you talk.. It’s about taking something everyone knows and flipping it and putting your own take on it. I don’t care how gay that sounded. Also, I used 50 and MJ cuz that’s rappin’ and basketball, the only things black folks do in the eyes of White America. Also Also, Bol’s crush is getting a bit scary. No Danny Pintauro.

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    I wanna do a Mardy Collins to Bol’s face..i dont know why..but i wanna

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    @N-BRED
    Y DO PPL FORGET ABOUT WHAT THE LATIN0 COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTED TO HIP-HOP(GOLDEN ERA,OF COURSE) AND ONLY MENTION BLACK PPL?

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Danny Ferry

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 4:32 pm
    FutureSexLoveSounds > any Hip Hop album this year

    ^uhh…funny..real funny

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Diddy had a better album than Jay-Z

    What a strange year

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    EDIT:
    FutureSexLoveSounds(PRODUCTION) > any Hip Hop album(PRODUCTION) this year

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    Mardy Collins… WTF?

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    INVISIBLE_HAND Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 4:35 pm
    @N-BRED
    Y DO PPL FORGET ABOUT WHAT THE LATIN0 COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTED TO HIP-HOP(GOLDEN ERA,OF COURSE) AND ONLY MENTION BLACK PPL?

    ^cuz of South park mexican..he made every body think latin folks is kiddy porn fiends

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 4:36 pm
    Diddy had a better album than Jay-Z

    What a strange year

    ^ dat aint even funny

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 4:36 pm
    Diddy had a better album than Jay-Z

    What a strange year

    ^ dat aint even funny

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    I was kidding of course

    but still you get the feeling that Primo and Timbaland would rather make beats for Xtina and Nelly Furtado rather than Nas and Hov

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    Yeah…but i found it funny hoe dre’s beat on “trouble” sounded like a timbo beat, yet it was better than any timbo beat this year..

    wierd

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    hoe=how

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Belize Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 4:37 pm
    INVISIBLE_HAND Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 4:35 pm
    @N-BRED
    Y DO PPL FORGET ABOUT WHAT THE LATIN0 COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTED TO HIP-HOP(GOLDEN ERA,OF COURSE) AND ONLY MENTION BLACK PPL?

    ^cuz of South park mexican..he made every body think latin folks is kiddy porn fiends
    ^^^^^^

    Plus its hard for people to get into(no bol’s high school wrestling coach) the likes of Lil’ Rob and Mr. Criminal because they rap in spanglish and talk about coronas and lowriders.

    LMAO @ South Park Mexican dude was actually pretty big in Houston too

  • http://myspace.com/belizeanbway Belize

    Dont forget mr. frost

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    black culture influeces the WORLD

    hip hop influences the WORLD

    black culture = hip hop culture

    we influenced all yall

  • Meka Soul

    new edition to abc to the boys to kriss kross to a+ to da youngstas to lil bow wow to lil romeo.

    they all slob the proverbial last person’s knob.

    no carmelo anthony bitch slap.

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    (GOLDEN ERA,OF COURSE)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Omar Cruz and Joel Ortiz might make it big though because they have Jimmy Iovine backing them up

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    Yeah…but i found it funny hoe dre’s beat on “trouble” sounded like a timbo beat, yet it was better than any timbo beat this year..
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    nah doggie,timbo had some hard ass beats this year!

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    Lil’ Rob,Mr. Criminal,AND South Park Mexican = NOT GOLDEN ERA

  • Prince Of The South

    The industry just going through it’s change like it did before, but the internet is killing music and especially hip hop. I don’t blame these producers for not working with hip hop artists like they used to for two reasons 1. there’s more money to be made with Pop music and 2. Hip Hop’s newer generation just doesn’t have what it takes to keep it going strong. All these old rappers can’t fall becak because if they did the genre itself would be hurt. These dudes shouldn’t be in their 30s or pushing 40 (Jay and LL) still having to make albums.

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com I Fux

    Speaking of Taco Bell no offense Rey, have ya’ll seen the commercial where there CEO is some English dude……….That shit is funny, by the way I havent ate Taco Bell since like 96′ when I was fifteen and I had a fly in my chilito and I threw that shit at the dude at the counter No Fat Joe without a shirt

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    FOR THE RECORD, I DONT LISTEN TO NONE OF THOSE RAPPERS.

    NO proceed…

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Beatnuts, Cypress Hill, Big Pun, Mellow Man Ace, Control Machete, Tony Touch all had a positive influence

    Chingo, Spm, and Baby Beesh not so much

  • Meka Soul

    >LMAO @ South Park Mexican dude was actually pretty big in Houston too>

    because of him & fellow agarrando los culos, fellow los cubos like lil rob, boo yaa t.r.i.b.e., chingo bling & the entire reggaeton bullshit make the music genre that much more nauseating.

    no TO loogie.

  • http://www.thesbdexperience.com livefromthe225

    sales only matter if you want your name in lights…there are plenty cats makin paper in hip hop behind the scenes, ghostwriting and ghostproducing (just ask Kwame), folk you assumed fell off, but are still gettin paper…the white man tell niggas the only way to get bread in this business is to coon in front the camera when that’s far from the truth

  • http://mixfiend.com Belize

    beatnuts were da shyt

    Off the books beat > any beat this year

    @ invisible – yeah timbo had crack..but dre came with the meth lab

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    Beatnuts, Cypress Hill, Big Pun, Mellow Man Ace, Control Machete, Tony Touch all had a positive influence

    Chingo, Spm, and Baby Beesh not so much
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    CO-SIGN.

  • http://www.thesbdexperience.com livefromthe225

    also in the entertainment game, once you’re famous, you’re ALWAYS famous, it’s just all about how you parlay your celebrity into a lucrative venture…the only ones who suffer are those who have the brain of a peon and even VH1 is there to rescue them!

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    The DJ Formerly Known as N-BRED Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 4:50 pm
    black culture influeces the WORLD

    hip hop influences the WORLD

    black culture = hip hop culture

    we influenced all yall
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    THERE U GO AGAIN…

  • http://mixfiend.com Belize

    Im not a Gunit stan

    But!

    I luv Money in the banks 1& 2, even 4 was str8…..with dat said:

    ENJOY!

    mixtapetorrent.com/mo-money-in-the-bank-5#attachments

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    @ invisible – yeah timbo had crack..but dre came with the meth lab
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    NAME A BEAT THAT ETHERS TIMBO(06)

  • http://mixfiend.com Belize

    @ invisible –

    Nigtmares (best cut on Blood Money)
    Imagine (best cut on B.C.T. although I need a light was close, but imagine wasntr a club song)
    Trouble (best beat on Jay’s album)
    QB true G (hutlers) – best song by nas in a min.

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    JEEZY-3A.M.
    LIL WAYNE-MANEATER RMX
    FutureSexLoveSounds(PRODUCTION)
    TRACK ON DIDDY PRESS PLAY
    …I KNOW IM FORGETIN SOME…

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Although I do bump Lil’Rob’s music(no Nate Robinson) to give the impression that I am a gully spic(hasn’t worked yet)

    Timbo=producer of the year

    Banks Mixtapes > Banks albums

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    Timbo=producer of the year
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    CO-SIGN

  • AirlineGeneral

    The fuck is this fat ass talkin about? damn bol you suck as columnist and all you do is type some shit fuckin fat piece of shit

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Actually all of the production on Nelly Furtado’s album was ill

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    BOSS LIFE > Imagine OFF BCT

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    The fuck is this fat ass talkin about? damn bol you suck as columnist and all you do is type some shit fuckin fat piece of shit
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    CO-SIGN!

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    INVISIBLE_HAND Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 5:12 pm
    The DJ Formerly Known as N-BRED Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 4:50 pm
    black culture influeces the WORLD

    hip hop influences the WORLD

    black culture = hip hop culture

    we influenced all yall
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    THERE U GO AGAIN…
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Y R U GLOATING? IT’S NOT LIKE U PERSONALLY DID ANYTHING SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!

  • http://mixfiend.com Belize

    Dont foget Dre’s beats on Big Bang!

  • http://mixfiend.com Belize

    Timbo did have the best beat on puffy’s album…but if dre was on there it be better..ha!

  • INVISIBLE_HAND
  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    DRE ON A PUFFY RECORD? U THINK WE’LL EVER WITNESS THAT…

  • House

    I agree with this piece. These people have to realize that the white corporate officers want to see album sales which means dollars. They can care less how good you think the album is after it flops. All there thinking is how much do we lose. These white folks don’t want to hear no argument about the album being a classic if the sells are not there to recoup all monies spent and then a lot more above that amount. I want lose no sleep over these rappers wasting money and opportunities. You have better get in and invest your money wisely so you can create future opportunities beyond rap (i.e. start a company outside of rap, real estate, etc.). Diversify your portfolio.

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    Dont foget Dre’s beats on Big Bang!
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    OK BUT THAT WAS AN AFTERMATH RECORD.BUSTA DOING A TIMBO RECORD MAKES WAY MORE SENSE!

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    36 Mafia had some bangers too…

  • House

    I truly believe bootlegging is hurting rap sales. I think a lot more rappers are headed over to Koch Records. You will have to budget your monies, no more balling. If not over to Koch, a lot more blacks will end up in federal jails for life for dope sales. Yo, two or more drug convictions you get you LIFE IMPRISONMENT! Check the federal sentencing guidelines if you don’t believe that.

    BOL, YOU SHOULD DO A PIECE ABOUT THE FEDERAL SENTENCING GUIDELINES FOR DOPE CONVICTIONS SINCE RAPPING ABOUT DRUGS IS THE THING THESE DAYS.

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Dre’s ghostproducing on Game’s album was ill(at least I think he ghostproduced some songs)

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 6:04 pm
    Dre’s ghostproducing on Game’s album was ill(at least I think he ghostproduced some songs)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    WHUT….
    WHICH TRACKS?

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Dre will always be better than Timbo. Sorry Beli, the 3 worst beats on Press Play were timbo’s, just blaze’s, and will.i.am’s. The Neptunes beat was average, but not too terrible.

  • NoMamesBuey

    Reasons rap album sales are down

    1. SMALLER PIE Internet downloading. Bol & others have covered this

    2. SLICING THE PIE INTO MORE PIECES Proliferation of rap artists/subgenre. I don’t think this reason has been covered. Back in the day it was East (mainly NYC) & West (mainly LA). Now many cities such as Houston “screwed & chopped” steez have their own regional rap. Add in to the fact there’s “backpack underground rap” collectives such as NC’s Justus League (Little Brother, Nicolay, etc). There’s more foreign language rap such as Tego Calderon. So for many fans that go beyond the corporate clear channel radio/MTV/BET, they are just listening to their preferred subgenres. This makes it so the “huge” artists will not dominate as much, cause there are more artists & subgenres. Less than 1% super rap fans will check for something out of almost every subgenre, there’s not enough time for that.

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Lookin At You, Doctor’s Advocate, One Night

    *I’m probably wrong

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Regardless Timbo=the best producer

  • Fernando

    Timbo…………not the best producer.

    Ocho Cinco = Best WR in NFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    *YUP,BUT IT’S UNDERSTANDABLE Y U PICKED THOSE

  • http://www.myspace.com/sbclick 123

    lol at “sour cream gun”

  • Fernando

    Dr. Dre beats are way better than Timbo’s. Timbo may be more creative at times, but Dr. Dre is like a steak from Mortons or Ruths Criss. Its satisfying every time & you know its gonna be the Sh*t.

    Timbo makes some beats that blow your mind, & then he will make a beat that blows a**. Dre is as consistant as they come, even if he takes credit for what other people do (Truth Hurts “Addicted” was a Quik beat that Dre. bought & tweaked to take credit for)

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    In the realm of Super Producers: Timbo is behind Dre, Kanye, and Just Blaze but in front of Swizz Beats, The Neptunes, Lil Jon, Jermaine Dupris, Eminem, and Scott Storch. I like Soundtrak and aside from Special Feeling, Will.I.Am’s beats are pretty good too.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Oh yeah: Havoc > Timbo as well.

  • INVISIBLE_HAND

    In the realm of Super Producers: Timbo is behind Dre, Kanye, and Just Blaze but in front of Swizz Beats, The Neptunes, Lil Jon, Jermaine Dupris, Eminem, and Scott Storch. I like Soundtrak and aside from Special Feeling, Will.I.Am’s beats are pretty good too.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    U SERIOUSLY DON’T KNOW WHAT UR TALKING ABOUT!

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    Super Producers: Timbo, Mike Dean, Luny Tunes, Daz, Rza, Muggs, Domingo, Dre, DJ Paul and Juicy J

    Em shouldn’t even be mentioned in categories of good producers(he was a dope rapper) but as a producer all his music sounds the same.

    Muggs > Rza > Needlz > Havoc > Alchemeist

  • E AKA THE REAL NORIEAGA

    * Daz actually ghost produced most of The Chronic and Doggystyle.

    Not to mention Daz produced Dogg Food

    3 Classics

  • Meka Soul

    aside from that “i be diddy, you be mase/eat me up enjoy the taste” [no mean street posse] line off that “maneater” remix [no "dick in a box"], the song was pretty decent.

    the nas/game/dre collabo was kinda underachieving compared to the game/nas/just blaze collabo.

  • PITPAT

    dre – uses to many of his recyled beats & sound very similir he is not the most creative producer

    timbo- timberland has variety in his beats & rarely uses recyled beats

    neptunes- they kinda take it too for by bein orignal & developin a new formula in each of there beats & and their beats are sometimes really outta this world

  • Air-Gar

    u should do a post on who had da better album – The Biggie Duets, or 2pac`s Pac`s Life, Dat be a good post Bol. I should take yo mothafuckin job

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Leather So Soft. This fucking video is the worst shit I’ve seen in weeks and weeks. These southern rappers really need to stop. Like… Now.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Nate Newton

  • http://www.myspace.com/angelsometimes Cthulhu

    Ummmm, I’m confused. If white kids are such a given when it comes to album sales, then I guess the ONLY people buying the hip hop albums right now and it’s not doing shit to revive the numbers. Hip hop is unabashedly commercial by nature, now, and album sales are an inextricable factor unless rappers start getting their Fugazi on.
    I don’t really care how well the new Jay Z album sells, much of its lyrical content has made me like him a million times more.

  • Shabad

    What?

  • Shabad

    Confessions of a faggot on ice.

  • xi!

    cosign to dat idea of bol doing a blog on the 2 corpse albums
    PLIZ SOME1 SHUD STOP THESE JEWS FROM FUCKING WITH OUR LEGENDS’ CORPSES LIKE THIS,BUT I THINK THEM CRACKAS ARE TRYNA DISCREDIT THEM NIGGAS WORK(NO WHITE AMERIKKKA)

  • House

    Bootleggers need to keep hustling them cds. Like the rap artists say in their raps to respect the hustle. The bootleggers just trying to eat like the rap artists say that they hustled them rocks back in the day. I respect the bootleggers hustle.

  • Shabad

    ^Go hang urself by the dick.

  • jonjon–23

    Big record companies have milked the rap game dry and now are starting to leave it alone. Artists would make more money if they went independent because they get robbed by the majors.

  • http://www.myspace.com/suntzu Sun Tzu

    “Let’s face it: If there wasn’t a dollar to be made, most of your favorite artists wouldn’t have begun rapping in the first place.

    The real question is, could hip-hop music in general meet the same collective fate as, say, Little Brother. If people keep not buying rap albums, how long will major labels bother trying to promote them? A case could be made that this is already happening.”

    I USED TO RESPECT YOU BOL UNTIL I READ THIS TRASH. HOMIE, HIP HOP STARTED IN THE PARKS, REMEMBER THAT. THERE WAS NO FINANCIAL GAIN FROM THAT SHIT, NIGGAS DID IT BECAUSE OF THE LOVE. IF SALES DIDN’T MATTER, THE TRUE NIGGAS WOULD STILL BE DOIN THIS SHIT!!! SO, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY? A BETTER QUESTION IS: IF MAJOR LABELS STOPPED PROMOTING HIP HOP, WOULD IT GO BACK TO THE REAL ARTISTS AND WOULD IT ONCE AGAIN BE THE “GHETTO’S BIGGEST KEPT SECRET”?

    YOU HAVE A HUGE POINT THAT ALBUM SALES ARE IMPORTANT, I’VE BEEN THINKING OF THIS MYSELF…THERE ARE SO MANY FACTORS BECAUSE TAKE FOR EXAMPLE…IF YOU TRUELY CARE ABOUT REAL MUSIC, THAT WOULDN’T MATTER TO YOU, RIGHT? THE QUALITY WOULD. SO YOU WOULD PAY TOP DOLLAR FOR QUALITY. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET AND DOWNLOADING? WHY PAY WHEN YOU CAN GET IT FOR FREE? THE INTERNET (MAINLY HIGH SPEED CONNECTIONS BEING COMMMONPLACE) FUCKED ALOT OF SHIT UP WHEN IT COMES TO THE ETHICS OF THESE THINGS, AND THAT’S REAL.

    YOU SHOULD DO AN ARTICLE ON THAT SHIT INSTEAD OF THIS BULLSHIT THAT YOU POSTED MAN.

    STEP YA GAME UP

    (p.s. I just capped that shit so niggas wouldn’t ignore it, anyone feel free to add on to what I said shit…tired of the random ignorant comments)

  • Belize

    Rey Says:

    December 18th, 2006 at 6:42 pm
    Oh yeah: Havoc > Timbo as well.

    ^U SMOKING ROCKS! Daz > Havoc
    (Ill put ambitions of a ridah on any havoc beat)

    @ Invisible hand: Dre > Timbo

  • PITPAT

    simple as this if you buy cd’s you dont have no life.

  • OG>

    best timbo beat this year is
    3A.M. off jeezys album
    Thug Motivation>The Inspiration

  • papper cut

    If people keep not buying rap albums ????? go back to english 101 son

  • T-Boye,Boy!!

    Bol, check out this cat from Shalion named “Nyoil” his got this video on “You Tube” called “Y’all should all get lynched” exposing these shambo coons we call rappers 2day, he speaks the truth, everybody should wake up to this, here’s the link :http://youtube.com/watch?v=6NjD_nrNnUo

  • REAL TALK

    yea technology is soon gonna finish off hip hop, cuz its only gonna get better, and gettin rappers albums will be quicker n faster

  • http://www.yaboymartell.com yaboymartell

    HEWW NAW LMAO!!!! GO CHECK OUT

    http://WWW.YABOYMARTELL.COM THEN!!!

  • EReal

    Heres my question, whos selling multi platinum albums BESIDES rap, hiphop and R&B artists? Aguilera? Shes on R&B’s dick, Shakira? I mean come on! If were gonna talk about record sales, we should talk about the decline IN GENERAL of record sales, not just oh my, Rap and Hip Hop is dying! LOL. Fact o matter is everyone burns everything. I decide AFTER Ive heard the album, ok this is tight, I want this in my library, and I go and buy a pressed copy to keep off in the stash cause burns get f’d so quick. The fact is that you should go buy albums of the people you support. But how long you gonna go buy albums of your artists talkin bout how rich they are? Eventually you gonna be like, damn if you so rich, you dont need my 10$+ for your album homie. Its the content to me thats lacking. Thats why Im getting sick of HipPop ya know? Im feelin Nas’s new ish and Young Buck cause he still talks about being at home in cashville and that the money aint changed him, but yeah hes got money ya know? I cant get down wit Jay-Z or Lloyd Bank$ even, constantly talkin bout they money and how all the bitches want em, blah blah blah. Its actually been turnin me to more sources of insight as far as the genre, like Talib and Mos and even independents like Peanut Butter Wolf, Swollen, Non Phixion, ect.. (The Swollen Members & Ghostface Tour was off tha hook). I think Nas is right, when the content steps up and theres a renewed interest in the Genre album sales MAY follow. Companies just hafta be more creative in how they market and protect the product from leaks and bootlegging. Maybe like a CD & Concert ticket bundle at a discounted price or somethin like that. But I wanna see whos gone platinum PERIOD this year, and not just call out hip hop for slumped sales, but all music. (except country cause we all know that prolly sells cause rednecks dont have puters or internets) hahah j/k.. forreal tho, if you wanna sit on here and go GGGGG-G-unit, or Ggggg-G-unot or whatever the hell. Go buy the album. Support your artists. One Drug. heh.

  • EffYou

    If labels would stop looking for that NOW money,they wouldnt have to worry about putting so much money into promoting an artist.They not looking for actual talent anymore,they looking for the hot new gimmick to come along,and when the results dont pay off,they hurtin..Maybe if they went back to FINDING actual talent instead of the gimmicks,they would see a rise in sales again

  • Fuck BoI

    notice how after this bitch nigga mentioned Church’s Chicken the blog ended shortly after that. By the way nigga you irrelevent except to a couple hundred niggas.

  • the truth

    No seemingly intelligent person can argue that indeed “the bottom line is the bottom line” when concerning business of all types… This capitalist principle lies at the very core of business in general… The issue most have with the business of recorded music (hip-hop specifically) and its current state is not that sales ultimately take precedent but that critical emphasis is unjustly placed on initial sales week figures… There are countless examples of artists &/or groups that have debuted to paltry opening week numbers only to progress to platinum & multi-platinum success… If Chris Schwartz (Ruffhouse) would have scrappped the Fugees because of the terrible opening week sales figures of their debut album “Blunted on Reality” he would have never got to release the 18 million selling (world wide) sophomore effort “The Score”… The same goes for the 4 million selling (domestic) “400 Degreez” by Juve and more recently “St. Elsewhere” the debut from Gnarls Barkley (platinum +)…Also the Black Eyed Peas, etc, etc… Simply put the commercial and creative arc of an artist can’t be duly forecast over a 7 day sales period… This is why commenting on openeing week sales figures is at the very least merit less…

  • john cochran

    I think if major labels start shying away from rap it would be a good thing. Then everyone would be hungry and have nothing else to loose. Thats when we get creative, thought provoking hip hop music. Bol, you say
    If there wasn’t a dollar to be made, most of your favorite artists wouldn’t have begun rapping in the first place. I dont believe that. I believe if there wasnt a dollar to be made only the folks who really love it would be left. And those are the ones I want to hear.

  • BIG D from harlem

    ight why dont dey get a bunch of government dudes to fuck wit errbodys computer get rid of lime wire or wut ever or complete ass fuck all the computers then put out sdey own pcs and take all da otha 1s off da market and wit thurr pcs they can have it so u can not illeagaly down load music…. i bet dey have da technology to do it. dat wld solve all da problmes or our sorry asses could actually support our faveourite rappers instead of bootlegin there shit !!!!!!!!

  • MC Spectakular

    if album sales are the most important factor in music then eminem is the best rapper ever

  • Dermeezy

    Rey:

    What are you talking about white america for. You are making no sense. There are two reasons why record sales are so bad. First is technology (internet, ipods, mp3′s, etc…) the second is the music sucks. There isn’t one real rapper in the game today. The majority of rappers are made up by thier public relations team put together by their label. Game is a great example. At first it sounded like he had been banging blood his whole life, but come to find out he was associated with the gang through his brother, and he only got down a few years ago. He was also on change of heart being dogged by his girl. That don’t sound like a G to me.

    All I’m trying to say is in order to save the rap game we need kick all of the fake’s out of the game ( Dip Set, Cash Money, Nelly, and all of the bubble gum acts out there, and get back to basics.

    P.S. Someone please tell DIDDY to stop reciting lines, he has enough money just stick to business.

  • Phil

    I agree

  • EReal

    Eminem is arguably one of the best rappers ever anyway. His flow and understanding of rap and respect for those who deserve it ( not taking shots at legends ) Are wayyyy ahead of their time. (22nd Century Flow). Thats just my .02 tho.

  • Absinthe

    Another spot on piece by yellow nig. If it’s not now, hiphop will soon be approaching a crisis state because of the majority of hiphop releases flopping this year according to criteria set not so long ago.

    Remember – it aint long ago that Cassidy was declared to have failed because his most recent album ‘only’ went gold? Shit – that’s an achievement now!

    Hiphop sales are declining rapidly. There are a no. of reasons for this.

    As a white person who got into hiphop before it really blew up and bought hiphop records such as Ice T’s Rhyme Pays, Cube’s Amerikka’s Most Wanted, MC Eiht’s Music To Drive Buy, De La Soul’s Eight Feet High and Rising, everything by Public Enemy and NWA as well as the Jungle Brothers, and A Tribe Called Quest to name some of the artists I followed, I wasn’t that thrilled when it became the fashion for millions of whites to blow up Tupac’s and Biggie’s record sales.

    I realised this was on the back of a trend – buying music for the image of black men from the ghetto leading dangerous lives and dying. I aint disrespecting Pac or his music – I’m just pointing out why he sold those phenomenal numbers.

    When Eminem came along (again a real hiphop artist), those millions of mostly white boys also bought his records for different reasons than mine. Hiphop had become a massive trend among whites – and even then I thought it wouldn’t necessarily last.

    I respect 50 Cent for his drive and will to succeed but it was clear the rot was really setting in. Another thug selling volume and with a crew called “G Unit”. It started to become cartoonish, gimmicky. It was over-saturation, just as had happened with so much about hiphop. Hiphop was ‘in’ with whites to the point where it was like part of the establishment.

    The crash had to come – cause those same demographics that bought all those records were going to go somewhere else when it suited them.

    Unlike black folks, and unlike the whites who’d had the interest when it wasn’t the acceptable face of the music industry, the white hiphop record buying public are into fads. Eminem has retired – they’ve stopped buying hiphop. 50 Cent has been over-exposed – the thug image saturated the biz and resulted in over-kill.

    White hiphop record buyers are fickle and they’re bored. They’ll buy Jay Z but not in the numbers he deserves compared to the records that sold millions over the last few years yet were by artists who aren’t that good.

    My verdict – hiphop will go back to its roots. People who know it and love it will continue to make it a crucial part of their lives. BUT artists will not make so much money, some will not survive as artists, and the music companies will start cutting the money supply lines to many labels and artists.

    Jay Z hasn’t achieved shit in my view – he hasn’t got the power to own a music company. That’s the issue. Get black people owning the companies and no matter what whites dictate, you can say “Fuck it – forget the platinum pressure, we’re focusing on music and the artists.”

  • Absinthe

    Sorry – wasn’t yellow nig who wrote that. My mistake in the above post and I also meant 3 feet high and rising.

    But apart from that I don’t take back what I wrote.

  • Retro

    you guys are gay…and this blog doesn’t work, i can only post when it lets me…fuckin butt!