Real name, no gimmicks

Obie Trice’s Second Round’s On Me dropped more than six weeks ago and I’ve been trying to figure out why nobody’s been writing about it.

To begin with, the album debuted at #8 on the charts, moving 74,000 units in its first week. Those numbers aren’t huge, but they’re certainly solid for hip-hop releases this year. Enough that someone somewhere should care about Obie.

And it’s not like the album sucks either. In fact, it’s kinda good. [1] I don’t really see how anyone can front on Obie’s skills. And say what you will about Em’s production, but this release at least demonstrates some range.

On top of that, there are a couple of external factors that should have helped O out—if not in sales, at least in terms of media/Internet attention.

Dramatic backstory
Sick and twisted as it may be, having a traumatic near-death experience is an asset if you’re a rapper. The more violent, the better. Hip-hop is morbid like that. Obie has his own story to tell now, since he took a bullet in the skull and survived on New Years Eve.

Close proximity to a fallen hip-hop hero
The same goes for his cousin Proof’s death. Cold as it may be, nothing generates fame in hip-hop like death. In fact, it’s such a compelling force that it tends to increase the fame of everyone in the deceased’s circle.

Signed to Shady/Interscope
I’m not saying that being part of rap’s top-selling clique guarantees record sales. (Word to Mobb Deep.) But the association—with its mentorship opportunities and hot guest spots and industry connections—should be of some benefit.

However, in Obie’s case, all of these factors have all been transformed into liabilities.

This August, Amy Linden published a feature on Obie in XXL that put forward a few theories on why dude doesn’t exactly grab the spotlight. She pointed out that he isn’t particularly charismatic, that he lacks “star power.”

More importantly, Linden argued that Obie’s thunder is perpetually stolen by the megastars on his own label—that he’s at risk of looking like a “bit player on his own album.” Cheers was released at the height of 50 mania, making Obie’s debut less memorable. His second release came out shortly after Proof’s death. While Obie has been legally prohibited from talking about the details of the situation, he’s also seemed (admirably) unwilling to exploit the tragedy. This has left him in a strained position with the media—thwarting press attempts to capitalize on the drama—reducing Obie to a footnote for the more sensational story.

Dude has also had his share of bad luck. Linden notes that just when Obie should have been gearing up to work his new record, he was hospitalized with a massive head injury from the New Years shooting. Next, one of his big promo spots for Second Round’s On Me was a Hot 97 interview. Later that same day, the Gravy shooting took place—capturing the attention of the press and the Internet alike. Then, there was the situation with MTV. Obie’s first single “Snitch” (featuring Akon) was denied by the network, which refuses to associate itself with anything relating to the street code.

Given all of that, what do you C-Boys think the chances are that Obie will ever be a star in his own right? Is he doomed to Bleek status for his entire career?

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[1] Then again, I actually like rap music. Even this year. Which never ceases to amaze me.

  • e

    Nice post Obie is so underrated. He has to leave Interscope that way he won’t get stuck with Em’s production or G-Unit cameos on his album.

  • e

    When you make it big can I be your weedcarrier Tara?

  • Pyth

    second round on me was definitley in my top 5 albums of the year p.s. 2nd

  • http://XXLmag.com Brendan

    i agree on all counts…The album was great (as was the first album) and he’s still underrated as an MC. Thats the way the cookie crumbles i guess.

  • Belize

    >She pointed out that he isn’t particularly charismatic, that he lacks “star power.”

    ^That basically it.

    Cheers = underated hiphop classic (the track with busta = nails)

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  • SUPERMAN

    OBIE DESTROYED HIS CAREER WITH THAT TEETH SONG SERIOUSLY. AND THAT SNITCHIN SONG WAS WACK! WHOMP WHOMP!

  • Belize

    not feelin 2nd round though…especially a song called “jamaican joint” that dont sound shyt like caribbean music

  • Spark

    Hey T. im surprised Obie Trice’s second rounds on me is defiinitly the sleeper of the year right now i found it good real good i like his flow Em’s verse is fucking crazy on 1 song bigg up 4 Obie(no bol) U picking it up since Bol got sloppy lately go after that #1 spot

  • e

    Is he doomed to Bleek status for his entire career?
    ^^^^
    If he stays on Aftermath, Obie has to go solo, have little to no cameos, and just have Jr Rotem produce the entire album(most of Obies best songs are with Jr).

    Bleek should have been put in a group with Tru Life. Bleek has no charisma and is boring after one verse.

  • http://www.myspace.com/16kingz thebestout!!

    the “O” ster is a greatlyrcist but sometimes thats not enough (Word to pharoah monche)these days if you ain’t connecting in some form to the people you not gon’ sell.If I was him I would exploited the shit outta bein shot cuz’thats all these dumb fucks these days play into. Since whne was it cool to get touched? I thought that was the total opposite of what gangster was.Anyways the album is off the chain with a couple shit joints still it get cd play!

  • Mikey Ess AKA SukedowN

    You consider a father who stays out getting drunk until 4am on a weeknight who then proceeds to pull his heater out and shoot another man over a argument a hero?

    What does that make Proof’s victim?

    What does that make Proof’s victim’s brother/bouncer who potentially saved other’s from the other bullets in Proof’s gun.

    Just because he was a rapper doesn’t mean he gets a free pass to behave however he wants at no expense to his reputation.

    Or does it?

  • Belize

    Beans and bleek should have did an album

  • Worried 2 Def

    2nd Rounds On Me was probably in the top 2 albums of the year. It really was good. And say what you will about Em’s production skills, but he had 2 or 3 fire tracks. Straight Up. Obie probably won’t ever be a superstar because he just doesn’t have that BUZZ. But who cares about that or album sales, I’ll be at the store when his albums come out. Besides, he’s WAY better than say Jim Jones or Young Jeezy. Them dudes can’t rap worth a fuck. I wish they would go on somewhere.

  • e

    Beans and bleek should have did an album

    ^^^
    Co-sign although I’m still dreaming(no k solo) of a Scarface & Beans album

  • G Off

    1. His voice is irritating

    2. Lyrics can be good, but his flow isn’t.

    3. Anyone on Shady automatically comes off as wack and for the “kids”

    4. Generic production that could be on any Interscope album

    5. If he does have an interesting personality (very possible), it doesn’t come across in his music.

    6. Trend follower instead of trend setter.

  • Bang

    he doesn’t get the radio play he should! dude is SICK!! cry nwo was ill, fuck that

  • SKRILLA

    second rounds on me is one of the most lyrical albums ive heard in a long time… especially on that track “lay down”

  • LBDII

    Obie’s album should have should of went Plat that album was good Im not going to front it was no King no Idlewild(yes im for real) I thought it was right up there with The Big Bang(minus the production) but I actually like Em’s Production *cough* *cough* Renagade. When I bought Second Rounds On Me From Itunes the first SECOND I could I realized I had a solid album but there was not that solid single to get the rest of these people who only like Poppy Records. In a way I kind of wish Obie would do One or Two pop songs just to sale records and get people to notice that he is on Top. But there is that other part of me that prefers Obie how he is that doesent sale records. Shit Obie keep doing your thing but im not sure if youll ever explode but you will always having me buying your shit.

  • Prince Of The South

    Obie’s cd was hot, but it was a sleeper. I knew it wasn’t going to sell because he didn’t have any buzz behind it and it got leaked early. He stepped his lyrics up on the cd. I don’t see how he’s going to come back for a third round because his last cd sold 1 million and this one bricked, His next album budget is going to be a lot shorter next time. Interscope doesn’t play around.

  • TARA

    Mikey: Good points. You can’t deny that Proof is well loved in hip-hop. But well loved does not equal hero.

  • Joz

    there’s nothing wrong with rapping about proof’s death…that’s the type of expression that hip hop is about (no busta rhymes bodyguard). please don’t be part of the emerging “conscious” lobby group that says rapping about death (or real life) is immoral. those people are like evangelists.

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    G Off Says:

    October 5th, 2006 at 4:27 pm
    1. His voice is irritating

    2. Lyrics can be good, but his flow isn’t.

    3. Anyone on Shady automatically comes off as wack and for the “kids”

    4. Generic production that could be on any Interscope album

    5. If he does have an interesting personality (very possible), it doesn’t come across in his music.

    6. Trend follower instead of trend setter.

    ^^^Obie’ll never, and i repeat, NEVER blow up…

    he’s just another “pill carrier” for Em…

    I’ma make a t-shirt that reads:

    “I H8 CRACKAS”
    (with a saltine box on the back

  • Incilin

    Yea I’ve been wondering tha same thing myself. Obie is a talented MC but even he calls himself an “Average Man” And no he will not be Bleek because he is still respected by those who know.

  • LEONARD A WILSON JR

    Given all of that, what do you C-Boys think the chances are that Obie will ever be a star in his own right? Is he doomed to Bleek status for his entire career?>>>>
    I’m feelin’ this article. I was thinking the exact same thing. I have both of Obie’s albums and had nothing to do with his association or record company. Obie is a sick MC. He defines MC in every sense of the word: breath control, word play, story telling ability, hot lines, lyrics, content, etc. For all those New Yorkers and fans from the Tri State area hooting and hollering at the South for their lack of lyricism and catchy hooks should champion Obie. He’s from the D. He’s holding it down for the North and more importantly Hip Hop. I don’t care if he ever goes platnum again and neither should Obie. He has a strong fan base that’s very appreciate of his hard work. R.I.P. PROOF

  • AD

    Second Rounds on Me is killing em. You can listen to it from start to finish. Mos def underappreciated. Everyone one was saying first album sold because he is affiliated with one Marshall Mathers, had alot of features etc.This time out kept the features to a minimum, better lyrics, less pop and he still doesn’t get any love. Go figure.

  • soopadoopa

    I like O B but his flow is kinda boring. If november & december dont pan out then this is the worst year hip hop 4 in a while!

    100

  • makaveli

    I like Obie, and I hope he doesn’t sell out so that he sell records… Hip-hop shouldn’t be about record sales, people are talkin about gettin played on mtv, but that’s the wrong crowd to be givin it to, sure it’ll sell records, but only if the right type of record is put out there… I don’t want Obie to change, I don’t think he needs or wants to leave Shady/Aftermath…

    Oh and by the way, people are just hatin on Em, his production is hot, if it wasn’t I’m sure Obie woulda chose other beats… Detroit is not New York, its not Atlanta and its not LA… its a different style, and I think its just that people aren’t used to it

  • MyGirlGottaGirl

    great post, Obie is always slept on, Cheers was damn near a classic and incredibly underrated. This album should have been recognized, especially since its pure Obie from start to finish with very minimal appearances unlike Cheers. But i really think the singles were horrible choices, great songs, but horrible choices to sell records. But, then again, Jamaican Girl seems like a good single and that’s getting no play either. Unfortunately, Obie may always be slept on. Maybe he’ll turn out like many others and finally be appreaciated once he’s gone (which is a huge shame.)

  • http://www.myspace.com/dronkmunk dronkmunk

    Proof. Nice guy and fun to be around? Sure, why not. But Hip-hop HERO?

    Nah. Not really.

    More like “close proximity to dead rapper.”

  • sdawg

    no body can front on oboe, hes got flow

  • http://www.myspace.com/kracktheking KR

    Bout time you wrote something bout Obie. I mean all you did was restate all the facts in the XXL issue that had the feature on him though.

  • H-MAN

    Hey Belize, it waz S. Beach and she waz Jamacian…Sand getz erywhere!!! naw mean?

  • H-MAN

    Itz one of my favoritez next 2 Ice Cube…2nd roundz on me getz my blood pumpin, so under rated…Obie needz 2 stunt a lil bit in my opinion

  • Dee

    Cheers sold A MILLION

    this album wont.. 4 two reasons

    ==”Snitch” didnt get ANY VIDEO PLay
    –and its a real record unlike “teeth”but didnt get the spins on radio or video

    2nd reason…HIP HOP and music is general is not selling as much b/c of downloading & bootlegging

  • Face Phoenix

    Obie being slept on. No surprise if you don’t make a candy coated radio R&B/ Club Single expect to sell way less than your compadres. 2nd Round wasn’t bad actually it is quite solid it just lacks somewhere maybe it’s Em’s Production. Nice Post though at least somebody noticed the man put out an another album a cut above the rest.

  • http://www.myspace.com/lone11 Lone1

    I wholeheartedly agree…I gave the album a listen about a week ago…it’s solid as hell..Cry Now…is a must peep…yessir…peace.

  • big balla

    Obie Trices album was whack as hell he was sleplt on because he sucks. He had one good song on his last album because akon was on it, but everything else was pretty much some of the whackest shit i ever heard, but hey, believe them if you want and throw your money away buying his CD, i did

  • Danja29

    TRUTH: the general public just doesn’t respond to “regular guys” in rap anymore. And really, they rarely ever have. Every talented MC that ever had the sales to match their talent had some extraordinary music or an extraordinary persona to go with it. Obie has neither. He has good music and not much of a persona.

    A few years ago, I woulda said the same thing: “it’s cause he doesn’t make radio songs for the clubs and blah blah blah”. But actually, he has done those kinds of songs and it still didn’t get him anywhere, because people are just not into HIM.

  • Dee

    No.. actually when he did a radio friendly song “GOt SOme Teeth” it got him a Platinum ALbum

  • DJ Lucky Luke

    For me, his stuff was too gimmicky. Kinda like comedian rap or something. I didn’t like the videos I saw, so no love from DJLL…

  • http://rockthedub.blogspot.com khal

    Tara…

    your points are valid, circa 2003. I think being signed to Shady is not as big a deal this year, based on how poorly Yayo and Mobb Deep did with their affiliation.

    and everyone on the mic is shot these days. oversaturation.

  • damsco

    i bought cheers and second rounds on me but cheers is by far the best album i think that album must went triple platinum but it dident but second rounds on me is just garbage his flow is the same on every song and the beats arent that good excepts for ballad of obie so mayby it is time to leave shady because the shit is going down over at shady/g-unit/aftermath since eminem dropt that horrible encore

  • Fernando

    He’s not that compelling.
    It seems that your average rapper these days cant get by on good lyrics, decent beats, and a thugged out attitude (hence why many NY mc’s have faded away) You gotta have some interesting story, a beef, crazy beats or lyrics, affiliated with a Fresh new click, or pioneer a new dance. Obie has really done none of these.

    His beef’s are worthless, lyrics are decent, beats are ok, doesn’t dance, and acts like every other angry Detroit rapper. He’s not bad, but he will never go platinum again. The first success was on the strength of his pill carrying ability for Em.

  • Enlightened

    TARA CHECK THIS:

    Nobody (I don’t think) hurts careers.

    HIS NAME IS OBIE TRICE!!!!!
    I feel like some people harm their careers with their names. I know it’s his real name and all but it’s not a real name with a good ring to it like KEITH MURRAY or CRAIG MACK. Honestly, his name sounds goofy and believe it or not that affects people’s perception.

    It’s kind of like Lil’ Mo. People always said, “Lil’ Mo can sing! Why has a career not taken off?”
    And I would be like, “Cause she’s a grown ass lady R&B singer with the name Lil’ Mo. That shit little nigga!”

    Same thing with Obie Trice, that shit does not sound like a BLACK MC WITH SKILLS. That name honestly would fit Eminem better.
    It sounds like some corny white dude that’s a folk singer or something. The name OBIE makes me think of the little white dude OPIE on the old TV show.
    That shit matters. What if 50 Cent’s name was Obie Trice? Would he be as successful to this day? I don’t know.

  • Eastside Bread Maker

    This was a good post. I kind of think that Obie is aight but i have never willed myself to get one of his albums. I dont know what it is about him, but he’s just not that appealing to me (no homo).

  • icon (Trillbert Arenas)

    Say what you will, but IMO Obie’s just as charismatic as TI (n/h)

  • Crazy J

    And that’s hy hip-hop ain’t working anymore. People will only buy an album because of the image. Shit, the first single off of an album does not always encompass the whole album’s quality. Usually the first singles suck balls compared to the rest. If people would give shit a chance, hip-hop would be doing much better. At first, I wasn’t the biggest Talib Kweli fan, but after picking up The Beautiful Struggle, I’m hooked. Open your minds, people.

    P.S.: Please, for the love of God, stop saying no homo. That’s just retarded. If you’re that insecure about how you’re perceived by niggas online, then you might need to re-evaluate your sexual preference. I’m secure enough to make that statement and not follow it with a…. I’m not even going to say it.

    Crazy J

  • Crazy J

    Plus Obie Trice is the shit !

  • SUPERMAN

    FUNNY BECAUSE BARELY ANYONE KNEW PROOF UNTIL HE DIED. NO ONE EVEN CARED. BESIDES ANYONE SAYIN YAYO AND MOBB DEEP FLOPPED ARE RIGHT… IF YOU COMPARE THEM TO G-UNIT STATUS. NOW INDUSTRY STATUS AS A WHOLE IS A DIFFERENT STORY. HIP HOP ALBUMS IN GENERAL ARENT SELLING SO FOR THESE GUYS TO DO SIX FIGURES, ESPECIALLY NY ARTISTS WHO WE KNOW ARE BEING SHITTED ON BY THE SOUTH (JAY, PAP, NAS, HURRY UP ALREADY), I SAY THIS IS A SUCCESS. T.I. MAY HAVE GONE PLAT, BUT HE STILL HASNT HIT THE 2MILLION MARK YET. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ABOUT HIP-HOP IN GENERAL?

  • SUPERMAN

    OH AND CRAZY J—-NO HOMO. SUCKERS!

  • The Chancellor

    Im from Michigan and proof is a fuckin HERO! Dont ever think you can go over his head with that bull shit ill tell you what you better not come to lansing or detroit poppin that shit because you will get dealt with!

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    if you ask me i blaim em…he not doing right by his career…and he know the potential dude got

  • SUPERMAN

    IM SO SCARED OF LANSING, MICHIGAN. (SHIVERRING!)

  • smirks

    life is hard sales don’t mean a thing unless there high. obie got skills and production. The future is there playground at shady. fans take time to buy in to some records its just the way it is. art is not about millions its about being happy with the directions your going or trying to bring it to that point where your good inside and willing to keep pushing for that plateau. props obie

  • Fernando

    Crazy J…are you Homo???? (kidding)

    No-Homo will never go away. You have to be careful with your words in this here blog or else you will become the victim of massive sonning. No-Homo is like an Ether insurance policy. People like Rey have have survived this blog strickly because of “no-homo”. It allows people to say things like “I actually like that new Justin Timberlake song” or “50 cent is much better looking than Craig Mack”

    Get over it.

  • DJ Lucky Luke

    TARA! I want to hear your review of the new Jay-Z song. Your blog, here, could use it. C’mon–tell us what you really think. Start a blog about that–that’d be a good look for you. Peace.
    –DJLL

  • Enlightened

    I’ve never heard anybody say No Homo in real life. I’ve heard Cam’Ron say it on TV and I see niggas say it on blogs. If you live somewhere where niggas saying that bullshit in real life, tell them about they self.

  • Danja29

    DEE says:
    “actually when he did a radio friendly song called Got Some Teeth it got him a Platinum album”

    Nah. Bein’ Obie Trice, who was Em’s “protege” got him a platinum album. That song was really not big on a mainstream level, nor were his other singles.

    But in 2006, a time where Em’s impact is not being felt at all and Obie’s out there to fend for himself as an artist, THIS is why his album is not selling.

    And it’s always been this way. People might say “this is what hip-hop’s become”, but if you check the numbers on some rather acclaimed rappers from backj in the day, you’ll see their sales weren’t dramatically any better than his are right about now.

  • illadelph

    It’s all in his delivery–unfortunately its not dynamic, and we basically just get the same product repackaged on different beats. As far as his story, nothing’s never really changing from track to track. He jumped on that “snitch” bandwagon, and everyone lost interest. He needs to come more creative the next round.

  • gutta

    wow, i actually agree with tara %110…..obie,to me, is the hottest rapper right now that no one seems to be talkin about. if u compare him to other rappers out now, hes pound for pound better than all of them but i think the fact he surrounded by big names kinda hurts him, plus some bad luck. anyone who think otherwise, put his songs to your “favorite rapper not named jay-z” next to him and listen.

  • Enlightened

    OBIE’S FIRST ALBUM DID NOT GO PLATINUM. I believed him too when he said it but it’s not true. Check the RIAA website – their the ones that give the certification and they have it listed as Gold. And they don’t even wait until you soundscan 1 million. They give it to you when you ship 1 million which is usually around 800,000 something sales.
    So he at the most sold about that.
    Dont’ get me wrong, that don’t mean shit. Just to let people know though that keep saying he went platinum.

  • JS24

    dude is just boring. my friend bought the cd because he likes hime and we listened to it over and over while on a road trip and i was going fuckin’ crazy. his flow is terrible and besides being a cookie-cutter MC who overexaggerates and boasts his being shot, he’s a difficult listen. it’s like listening to a singer that goes off-key and you sort of flinch and squirm in your seat. it’s like dude can’t put bars together smoothly. AND HE REFERENCES “SUPERMAN DRAWLS” LIKE 5 TIMES!!! i dont mean to shit on dude, but he just seems like another run of the mill artists who are afraid to step out of the box and challenge their audience…

  • tru mindset

    I’ve just read the headline….sorry, but I can’t bring myself to read the actual post but ……. my answer is ….. cos obie sux ass major.

    one

  • john cochran

    I personally have not heard his new shit yet, but his last jiont was crazy. I like the fact that he’s cerebral and deals with his demons in the music. He had sick beats last time too( timbo, Dre, Em) He was fortunate to get big names like that his first time out. If it wasnt for fifty being so huge at the time he couldda blew. But oh well. I’m tired of this whole trend of fans being up on sales. Why do you give a fuck what somebody sells, they aint feeding you. If you like some one’s work go out and support em and shut the fuck up.

  • http://xxlmag.com SUPER313

    look i’m from detroit and we can be critical of our artists. i ain’t bullshittin just like on 8 mile real
    talk if you wack you gettin booed.
    the problem wit obie is he can be boring at times. i understand the you should follow suit by the industry but face it he’s in the public eye.
    don’t make us in detroit look bad and next time you and em need to support detroit more like proof did
    r.i.p big proof

  • Belize

    H-MAN Says:

    October 5th, 2006 at 11:57 pm
    Hey Belize, it waz S. Beach and she waz Jamacian…Sand getz erywhere!!! naw mean?

    ^Yeah everybaody wanna fuk on the beach

  • H-Man

    DJ K shuttin shit down…Hyyyyype Radio…WHAT???…Well Im on dat Bob Barker bullshit, U know, if tha price iz right???…what say U Trice?…third roundz on K??? Left hand on my nutz, middle finga in tha air, yellin uno, doz, Hillside Tice’em, letz roll them dice and put’em on ice….gangsta, gangsta…Shady/Aftermath…LETZ GO!!!

  • SMARTASS

    not an obie hater but I heard that 2nd cd & jamaican girl was the only good song on it.

  • Screw Musik King

    1. His voice is irritating

    2. Lyrics can be good, but his flow isn’t.

    3. Anyone on Shady automatically comes off as wack and for the “kids”

    4. Generic production that could be on any Interscope album

    5. If he does have an interesting personality (very possible), it doesn’t come across in his music.

    6. Trend follower instead of trend setter.

    You’re a fucking moron. Quit trying to act like you know what you’re talking about. You don’t. Obie is better than your favorite rapper. Don’t consume so much of Jeezy’s dick in one sitting. Fuckin’ loser.

  • Houston Hard-Hitta

    Man, Hold up!!!! Yo I just got Obie’s Cd and I studied it and compared it to everything out right now…It was sick! Yo dud has incredible wordplay with the sylable rapping. I almost was about to say he was as good as Em’ until I heard em’s verse on the joint and realized I was trippin! But yo, obie definitely hold his own and has a fire cd. He just needs radio play and some promotion! Its like we used to say at the label…You’re only as good as your marketing plan. You can have the dopest cd in the world, but if nobody knows about or hears it, its like it never happened. Obie get them boys at your label to get on it…..you deserve your shine!

  • Unknown

    Give ‘O’ a break niggas, dis dude is surrounded by mega stars. He can’t shine in there cus there’s too much light. Obie is good tho, I like his CD!! Kepp representin Nigga!!

  • JLY

    its a sick album and em’s production is gettin betta. go out and buy it.

  • W

    obie is dope

  • BIGNAT

    THAT NEW OBIE CD KNOCKS HE NEEDS TO GET HOOKED UP KOCH AND GET SOME MONEY BECAUSE I DIDN’T EVEN KNOW HIS ALBUM CAME OUT. HE SUPPOSED TO BE ON SHADY/AFTERMATH THEY SUPPOSE TO PROMOTE THAT SHIT UNITL KIDS IN THE WOMB WANT THERE ALBUMS HAHAHA. I SAW IT WHEN I WAS GOING TO PICK UP IDLEWILD AND THE ROOTS NEW JOINT.

  • http://www.rapbasement.com Confusious

    Want to know what killed this album? The early, and I mean EARLY release in France (July 24th, an entire month before US release) meaning people had a month to download it illegally, taste it, and spit it out due to a few bad choices of songs.

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