History repeats itself

Does it strike anyone else as odd that rap albums these days are selling as if they have AIDS on them, while pop albums that sound more or less like rap music are selling as if they came with free weed?

Probably the best-selling rap album recently has been OutKast’s Idlewild, and even it got beat like a broken dishwasher by Diddy’s pre-fab girl group Danity Kane. To this day, I’m not even sure what it is that Danity Kane sings, and it’s not like I’m completely disconnected from pop culture. I’m sure that’s still a good two years out.

Meanwhile, albums by the likes of Beyonce and Justin Timberlake aren’t doing especially worse than their discs from ’02-’03, despite the fact that Music Piracy Is Killing the Record Industry. If anything, you’d have to view their sales figures as a veritable coup for the music biz.

I can’t help but wonder: What if this isn’t some temporary trend? What if cracka-ass crackas have actually managed to steal hip-hop right out from under black people without anyone even noticing?

Of course cracka-ass cracka appropriation of black forms of music has been an issue going all the way back to the days of Pat Boone and Elvis Presley, and probably a while before that as well, but I think most people assumed those days were long gone with the advent of hip-hop.

Who gives a fuck about rock and roll anymore anyway?

Indeed, cracka-ass crackas have mostly failed to take over rap music in the twenty or thirty years now that it’s been a going concern. (Except, of course, for the fact that they run it and contol the bulk of the wealth that it’s generated, but that’s neither here nor there.)

There’ve been quite a few white MCs, many of whom I’ve enjoyed more so than most black rappers (no Cam’ron’s weird gay friend), but I think it’s pretty much taken for granted that there could never be a white Biggie Smalls. (There hasn’t even been another black Biggie Smalls, but again I digress.)

That said, I wonder how important the actual vocal art of rappin’ is to rap music as a whole, the fact that it’s called that notwithstanding. As I mentioned in my post the other day about the winners and losers of hip-hop circa 2006, actual rappers have arguably never meant less to rap music.

And when you think about it, did the fact that John Lennon and Paul McCartney couldn’t sing as well as the Isley Brothers stop them from recording the definitive version of “Twist and Shout?” 40 years after the fact, Paul McCartney is rock’s first billionaire, while Ron Isley can’t even afford to pay his taxes. Coincidence?

If history teaches us anything, it’s that we never learn much from history. If cracka-ass crackas already stole rock and roll out from under black people, what’s there to suggest that they couldn’t do the same with hip-hop? Maybe they already have.

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  • Eastside Bread Maker

    If there’s one thing that rapppers should have done by now to ensure that the integrity of the music continues on to be what it should be and once was, the voice of the young black generation, then the older, more successful heads in this game (Russell, Puffy, Percy Miller, Quincy Jones) should have all pooled together their resources and brain power and started their own dsitribution label(s). There is no reason for them to sit back and give 50% of their money to people to do absolutely nothing, but cut a check. But like most things, niggas are only concerned with the “now”. With looking good and being “RICH” as opposed to being wealthy (a la Chris rock’s standup and Andre 3000′s verse on hollywood divorce). Minus a very few, and i mean probably less than a handful of blak music artist, and this includes all genres of music, own their masters and distribution rights on a main stream scale. Of course there are those who “push their music” out of their trunk. But what if there was a black owned distribution label…

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Hmm,I’m not sure what day I pegged as “Outrageous Racial Steretype” day, but this does fill your quote for the week.

    It’s the beats, stupid.

    Every black producer thinks they’re Quincy Jones & their white proteges are Michael Jackson.

    They claim to be “bored” with rap, so they take their good shit to pop artists. In reality tho’, pop artists are selling, so producers are going after “that white cream, that noxema” at the expense of their own artists or up & coming artists.

    It’s horseshit, cot dangit.

    Also, Lupe’s album is dope. Fuckin’ hatin’ ass haters.

    UNO!

  • Young A. Simmons

    Bol you a blog recycling mommas basement dwelling nigga.

    Since this post sucked i’ll talk bout something else, like your ‘review’ of F + L on your own site. surprise surprise you mocked virtually every track (like you always do)

    This coming from a man who bumps xtina and Justin. get the fuck outta here what do you know bout hip hop?

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    When you dont own anything how can you possibly have any say so at the board of directors meeting(if you know what i mean)…but i dont think they are taking hiphop from blacks their just manipulating hip hop…just like the black panther movement…they recognized what was going on and the direction it was taking so they infiltrated the organization…back in the 80′s the movement was good(positive)…about upliftment…so they were like lets make it materialistic and thug it out…so the positive emcees weren’t getting the deals the gangstaz were…but like common said…it was good for her she was becoming well rounded…but you see the thing was that tupac was starting a new movement with thug life…so they were like we cant have that…so we were manipulated into a east vs west…and we all know how that ended…which brings us to the here and now…

  • Tom

    edit: second.

    i digress.

    good post bol.

    If nobody hasn’t noticed by now, the 2000′s are becoming a repeat of the 1980s, and hip hop music is becoming the new hair metal while emo/indie-rock is the nu new wave. the killers are the new u2 (both suck). timberlake is phil collins. panic at the disco is duran duran. and so on. weird al is spoofing chamillionaire instead of mj. people are wearing ugly shit like bape, rocking stunna shades, and lebron james is the new mj. how 80s.

    I must admit, due to all the commericialization, mainstream rap is now unappealing to me, save for a handful of artists (jeezy, game)

    rock (tv on the radio, ryan adams, sigur ros) and pseudo hip-hop (timberlake, go! team) is much more appealing to me right now, but if say, cuban linx II drops anytime soon, ill be the first in line.

    outkast being the “most succesful” rap album of recent memory is sad, seeing young dro charted higher.

    speaking of ‘kast, listening to Big Boi on “The Train” is symbolic of hip hop waving the white flag. how sad.

  • Eastside Bread Maker

    Well said incredible…

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >Since this post sucked i’ll talk bout something else, like your ‘review’ of F + L on your own site. surprise surprise you mocked virtually every track (like you always do)

    What if it turned out that I didn’t even write that review of Food and Liquor? Would that reveal something about yourself and/or the quality of instruction at the “magnet” school you went to?

    I’m just saying.

  • Jason

    Maybe rap albums would sell if there wasn’t a bunch of transparent, meaningless bullshit getting pumped out of the South. It makes me sick. I suppose the South isn’t entirely to blame. We have Crunk’s younger, gayer cousin Hyphy here in the West.

    A casual listener might flip to BET or MTV and see a bunch of retards dancing aroud cars they can’t afford filled with big-assed whores chanting “booty booty booty booty rocking everywhere”, mistake it for being representative of the entire genre, and quickly dismiss quality rap albums (which now are few and far between)as the same brand of worthless trash.

    Rap albums sell like they have AIDS on them because corporate America, like always, has bent hip hop over and dry-fucked it in its pursuit of “cool.” Talentless shitbags and career criminals are hired and recklessly mistaken for talented musicians. Thank God for Nas, Game, and Jay; they can’t drop soon enough in my eyes.

  • C.A.C.

    “cracka-ass crackas already stole rock and roll out from under black people”

    Pleaze, now, el bolo tie. This is one of history’s great canards. All art is about appropriation–whether visual, sonic, filmic. And music is not like a Escalade–once stolen, it’s not gone for good, sunk to the bottom of the East River in a ‘dro and purp-fueled joy ridin’ spree gone too far. Music, in the abstract sense, can’t be stolen. It’s not a commodity. The market decides who it likes best, then buys (or steals) their records.

  • Young A. Simmons

    Regardless of whether or not you actually wrote that review the fact that you put it on your website surely means it reflects your opinion on the album. If you liked it you wouldn’t post a review ripping every track, therefore I must assume you don’t like it.

    Granted 06 sucked bad, but F + L is still a very good piece of music IMO.

  • Tom

    “Thank God for Nas, Game, and Jay; they can’t drop soon enough in my eyes.”

    isn’t it weird that all of sudden Jay is some savior that will bring it back because all his “dumbing down for dollars” he did from 98-04 did alot to push hip hop in the direction it is today.

  • answerD

    yup they arleady did. while niggers sit around and hate on each other, the crackers take everything good from the culture and run with it! its crazy but it is real, and its happening before your very eyes!

  • Fernando

    Maybe marketing albums to 10-12 year old girls via MTV is the key. Young bitches dont know how to use Limewire or Bit Torrent yet and thus make thier parents buy this crap. And how did you tie the white man in with Danity Kane??? Thats Diddy’s fault. And hip-hop artists / Groups just arent that good anymore. Cee-Lo became a singer, Andre 3000 let his inner fruit out, and those were two DOPE MC’s. Biggie and Pac are gone, WU disbanded, bootcamp gets no promotion, NY artists arent even that tight anymore. So what are we left with????? Young Joc, Danity Kane, Yung Dro, d4L, DFB, and a bunch of other retarded shit.

  • Fin

    Just look at The Roots; who can usually be counted on for some creative, entertaining music. They signed with Def Jam and released an absolutely mediocre album. And with all the work that ?uestlove does you know he’s not hurting for money. The rap game is over – Redman will be pushed back indefinitely and you know we’ll never see another Joe Buddens album. Like a lot of ppl here have said Game is probably the last hope for a good rapper to have a decent album that sells well.

  • Tom

    “What if it turned out that I didn’t even write that review of Food and Liquor? Would that reveal something about yourself and/or the quality of instruction at the “magnet” school you went to?

    I’m just saying. ”

    I found the review to be hilarious, though I disagreed with most of it because i enjoy the album regardless of how pseudo-hip hop it may be.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Young A–

    Yes, I’m considered Bol’s monkeyboy around here. Moving past that.

    Bol actually gave F&L a 7/10. It was Akuma’s ass (that dude is worse than me by farrrrrr) that shat on Food & Liquor.

    Not trying to get in the middle, but if you’re gonna give someone hell, do it to Akuma (which must be swahili for “fuckin’ swagger jacker”).

  • Spark

    Bol ( i told u about lupe being all gangster when u had ur beef wit him a few weeks back) racisism bol? anyfucking wayz what the fuck u gonna do about it? stole this stole that stop the B.S. get it back

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Jay’s dumbed down lyrics >>> everyone else’s “plain ol’ dumb” lyrics.

    Can’t wait for The Game. He’s the last visible MC that won’t hold his tongue (nullus) or play politics. (and I say visible so I don’t get shit about immortal technique, dead prez, or any other political underground rappers)

    I want a new Joe Budden album somethin’ fuckin’ terrible.

  • Tom

    “Just look at The Roots; who can usually be counted on for some creative, entertaining music. They signed with Def Jam and released an absolutely mediocre album. And with all the work that ?uestlove does you know he’s not hurting for money. The rap game is over – Redman will be pushed back indefinitely and you know we’ll never see another Joe Buddens album. Like a lot of ppl here have said Game is probably the last hope for a good rapper to have a decent album that sells well.”

    I found the roots album to be pretty damn good. shit like “false media” is the basis for this conversation. that album is on some real hip hop shit and it bugs me when people bitch about the state of hip hop and then diss that record, like did you even listen to it? the record is some real social commentary, sign of the times shit.

    i think redman’s rap career ended with the lobotamy that was “malpratice.”
    the meth joint, “walk on”, redman sounds like he’s stuck in 98.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    Yall be clownin young dro…but dude is creative…if you would just listen to what he is saying instead of writing him off before one word comes out…he brings what the game’s been missing(santanna album was nice another creative dude)…CREATIVITY…thats all im asking for…do you if everyone is the same the shit would be boring…but dro is colorful with his words…stop throwing him in the mix with DFB and Ying Yang

  • Tom

    ay’s dumbed down lyrics >>> everyone else’s “plain ol’ dumb” lyrics.

    Can’t wait for The Game. He’s the last visible MC that won’t hold his tongue (nullus) or play politics. (and I say visible so I don’t get shit about immortal technique, dead prez, or any other political underground rappers)

    I want a new Joe Budden album somethin’ fuckin’ terrible.
    ——————–

    true. jay was the cover on EW, so he’s more than visible. lol.

    Deaf Jam is really fucking stupid not to work with Joe Budden. Should’ve made an album of out “mood muzik II”, dropped “staind” as a single featuring the white dude from staind in the video (once a hit, always a hit). but no, lets clone jeezy (rick ross) and do that instead.

  • babyboy

    fck rey

  • Belize

    *yawn*

    rather be takin a shyt

    ReCyLeD:
    -Hip-Hop’s new race issue
    -The dreaded n-word
    -Good news for people who like bad music

    step it up..ur slypin..and thats sooo lammmmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

  • content

    C.A.C., that was one of the better points made on this site (columnist included) not to mentioned well articulated. rarely have i seen someone’s theory behind a blog disproved within the first 30 minutes of it being posted. to translate for the masses; stop bitching (and blaming anything within reach) about hip hops decline in record sales and admit the music sucks.

  • http://www.myspace.com/16kingz thebestout!!

    WE BEEN LET THEM CRACKAS TAKE HIP-HOP FROM US AND THEY WAY IT HAPPENED WAS WHEN DARE i SAY IT!!!>>YES WHEN THEY LET NELLY WHACK ASS IN THE DOOR, NELLY OPEN THE FLOOD GATES FOR ANY WHACK NIGGA WIT’ A BEAT AND A DUMB ASS DANCE TO SHUCK AND JIVE HIS WAY RIGHT THRU THE DOOR!! AND THE BIG CORPORATE MUFACKA’S SEEN THAT NOT ALL NIGGERS WANNA PROGRESS AND MAKE ENLIGHTMENT MUSIC FOR THE MASSES THEY JUST WANNA HOOT AND HOLLER WHILE THEY SHOW OFF THIER DAMN JEWLERY!! AFTER THAT ANY NIGGA WILLING TO KEEP HIS EDUCATION AND THOUGHTS TO HIS SELF WAS BOUND TO GO PLATINUM OR AT LEAST BLOW UP! LET’S NAME A FEW SHALL WE

    1. NELLY
    2.CHINGY
    3.D4L
    DEM FRANCHIZE FAGGOTS
    4.JIBBS
    5.LIL’ BOOSIE ( QUEER ASS VOICE)
    6.MIKE JONES! WHO MIKE JONES!
    OH YEAH AND LET’S NOT FORGET THAT THEY ALSO HAD TO GET THE WHITE HIP -HOP AUDIENCE BECAUSE THEY GAVE US
    8.PAUL WALL BABY!!
    WIT’ SHIT LIKE THIS OUT THE CORPORATE RATS EAT GOOD WHILE OUR SOCIETY STARVES BUT YET STILL FEEDS INTO THE BULLSHIT THEY PUT OUT!!!IT’S UP TO US TO GET IT BACK BUT SHIT i DON’T THINK THIS GENERATION WANT IT?!!!PEACE TO THE NEXT RHYME

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Jay keeps cosigning the dopeboys on his label, that’s why I didn’t include him with Game. Jay knows they suck, but he’s the CEO so he has to back ‘em up. I understand it, but he should know they’re inferior.

    BabyBoy–So…do you want the autograph or not?

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    You’re blaming Nelly?

    I’m sorry, but Cash Money & No Limit started Jig-a-Bling rap way before Cornell Haynes showed up.

  • john cochran

    If hip hop is dead or stolen, as your current theory states, its because we killed it or gave it away. There’s many people to point the blame at, labels, artists, piracy,etc. But I think the blame is on us. As in us I mean the black youth. If anyone owns Hip hop its us. We continue to buy our favorite artists’ cds on bootleg or burn them. We continue to support whatever crap MTV decides to pass off as Hip Hop. We continue to mindlessly idolize talentless byproducts of these Machines called record labels.
    It’s time we stopped complaining and start changing it. Dont support this crap thats out and keep it independant and underground. After all, thats what the forefathers did when the music of the 70′s and 80′s didn’t represent them. They built their own movement.
    100

  • Spark

    Rey u even know Nelly’s real name?

  • Belize

    Rey Says:

    September 25th, 2006 at 3:24 pm
    You’re blaming Nelly?

    I’m sorry, but Cash Money & No Limit started Jig-a-Bling rap way before Cornell Haynes showed up.

    ^No buddy ur boy puffy really started it *cough**no time, shinny suit* JD vs Puff era* cough*

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    I use rapper’s real names to sign for free tickets at the movie theater.

    Beli–I don’t mean material rap, I mean that bouncin’ around “project chick” off-beat terrible No Limit “look at our shiny teeths, massa!” NOLA horseshit. (sorry n-cred)

    Puffy & Puffy Lite (JD) made danceable party rap, but they didn’t act like a bunch of fuckin’ down-south coons.

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/ I Fux

    I hav never heard the Joe Buddens Mood Music, but I was listening to Rhymefest’s album and he should have just made the ODB song a single that shit is fiyaa and for the ladies

  • Meka Soul

    >Puffy & Puffy Lite (JD) made danceable party rap, but they didn’t act like a bunch of fuckin’ down-south coons.>

    so “puffy woods” [no loon] wasn’t shucking it up in the “mo’ money, mo’ problems” video?

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    September 25th, 2006 at 3:24 pm
    You’re blaming Nelly?

    I’m sorry, but Cash Money & No Limit started Jig-a-Bling rap way before Cornell Haynes showed up.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Diddy and Jay-z…so yes south haters…bling started in new york

  • yaboy

    Lupe’s album is fuckin ill.

    Waiting on:
    NEW SAIGON, NEW JOE BUDDEN, NEW GAME, NEW NAS, AND NEW RAEKWON.

    that is all.

  • Meka Soul

    or perhaps it was when he “special delivered” g.dep right [back] into rehab.

    and what the hell happened to 8ball & mjg?

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    Rey you degenerate sloppy joe eating SOB…some people hate…i think the lost their mind

  • Fernando

    Why does anybody want another Joe Budden album???? Stop wishing for it or it might happen! NOOOOO

    Ras Kass ripped Game’s ass apart.

    This is a fairly lame post Bol. Step it up.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    yall talkin all this shit bling been around since the beginning…big daddy kane, slick rick, ll cool j…does any of those name s ring a bell…all from the north by the way…

  • Fernando

    8ball & Mjg are the best act on Bad Boy & not suprisingly..the least popular.

  • yaboy

    fernando, you are dumb as rocks.

  • Fernando

    If Piddy destroys thier carreer, I am gonna kill that jig. I understand bitching out on Shyne, G Dep, Loon, Black Rob, Total and every other artist he threw under the bus (including that random Italian guy), but he better not fuck wit tha southern legends.

  • dameSTATUS

    What if Lupe is really a white man? (Discuss amongst yourselves)

    My take: Total Coup!!

  • Belize

    Puffy & Puffy Lite (JD) made danceable party rap, but they didn’t act like a bunch of fuckin’ down-south coons.

    ^I wont even mention Puffy in that tub..woops…i did

    Ifux- Luda, Mef and Phymest all have Odb’s best verses of his life…co-sign on the single, too bad rec. exec probably dont even know who odb is/was

  • Fernando

    one more thing…WHY THE FUCK IS JIBBS aka JIGGS all over this god damn page????? is that weak ass single really catching on??? DAMNIT

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Okay. Let’s get into it then:

    Fern–Joe Budden is awesome. My condolences on the lack of a new Black Moon album tho, I know you love that shit.

    N-Cred–Yeah, I said it. I’m not hating on them, I’m hating that bullshit ass music.

    Meka–The Mo’ Money video–like the rest of the versace mid 90′s stuff–was “Hey, White Folks: You’re not better than us cuz you rock designer duds & drink pricey alcohol. We’re in this motherfucker now, so what else do you have?”–>Only problem was, the game didn’t move past that. Shit’s been stuck on money, clothes, hoes, & dough since ’96. That’s not Diddy’s fault. That’s the fault of the dick riders.

    N-Cred again: Yeah, Jay flossed, but his lyrics, while dumbed down, were still dope. Go back and listen to his “worst” album, Volume 1, and check them out. He was flossing and all that blingy shit and he was still killing people lyrically.

    “Fuck you, Fuck you, & Fuck you. Who’s next?”

  • Bang

    Danity Kane isn’t really hiphop anymore then most R n B is these days (while it’s true R n B copped some hip hop swagger, that happened more closer to jodeci in the 90s).

    As far as white hip hop goes, fuck that. I’d rather have hip hop dive off of the manstream before it turns into rock n roll # 2. First tho – we need to see how Nas, Jay Z, and Snoop will do this year. Too bad the younger rappers aren’t holding up as well as the old timers, and that after those dudes, THEN we’re really fucked (no homo)

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    cosign Fern on Jiggs & 8Ball & MJG.

  • thoreauly77

    thats right folks, i have all the masters hidden underneath my bed, but i dont want to sell any of them until they really appreciate in value. i guess my daughter will just have to keep wearing that two-day old diaper. seriously though i want in on this shit; if white people stole rap from black people then i still havent seen my piece of the pie and damnit i am so white that youll get a sunburn just by standing next to me. at night.

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/ I Fux

    Belize^

    I am telling you guys I just broke up with my girl(no homo) and the Rhymefest feat ODB has got me through my day, no homo an all of my comments above. How can a TI @ the company not realize that a dead ODB featured on Fest’s album would have exploded, it reminds me a little of Biz Markie’s just a friend track, I am going to ask fest on his blog why he didnt push for it instead of Brand New or Fire

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    For all you dum a-holes out there…here is a history lesson for you…Africans use to dance in a similar fashion as we do downsouth during cerimonies and rituals…all to a beat of a drum…what did Nas say,”big hips and butts dancin”…

    This has been another history lesson sponsored by Me.

  • Belize

    Ifux- u and rey should hug it out (no Ari)…Rey has a keen sense of being dumped and has mastered the ancient style of gettin over it.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    oh another history lesson…its in our nature to rock gold and look nice…that is embedded in our dna…start with knowledge of self…cuz these white folks will have you hating who you naturally are…and the elite of ancient times rocked gold chains around their necks

  • dameSTATUS

    The truth could be right in y’alls face, and you would flick it off like a booger. (Lupe Fiasco:White Man)

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    lol @ Belize..

    At the risk of inciting Transi: Yeah, that’s pretty true.

    But! (and I have no need to lie seeing as I’ve already divulged a ton of personal info here) I’m currently deciding over two chicks, so I’ll be back in the game shortly.

    Anyway, enough of all this yelling. I’m gonna cop Weird Al’s album tomorrow. He’s hilarious, and I’ve liked him (no bill o’reilly) since 3rd grade, and I’ll be bumping White’n'Nerdy on my way to Transi’s mama house.

  • Meka Soul

    >For all you dum a-holes out there…here is a history lesson for you…Africans use to dance in a similar fashion as we do downsouth during cerimonies and rituals…all to a beat of a drum…what did Nas say,”big hips and butts dancin”…>

    we don’t do the chicken noodle soup in nigeria. we’re not that primitive.

  • Wiley

    Bol YOU review f & L.

    Rip it to shreads, this fake ass nigga. What a wanna be. THIS is whats wrong with rap, hypocrites like Lupe.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    chicken noodle soup is northern made

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    with a soda on the side

  • Meka Soul

    >Ifux- u and rey should hug it out (no Ari)…Rey has a keen sense of being dumped and has mastered the ancient style of gettin over it.>

    wouldn’t that cause cam’ron & dmx to release a diss song about you to boost their lagging sales?

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    I can’t defend chicken noodle soup. That shit looks like someone took a taser to someone doing the harlem shake.

  • Fernando

    Yaboy-
    You are a bitch, shut up. Or a least provide a basis for you comment.

    Rey –
    I know, choosing between transi & Bol’s moms is a tough decision. (I heard Bol’s Mom swallows). I cant tell if the Black Moon comment was sarcastic or not…either way, FUCK Joe Budden & the weak ass Jump Off.

    Dj-N-Credibly-Dull –
    You are an idiot, and your bullshit history lessons teach us nothing. Tryin to pass off common knowledge as intellectual and thinking you are impressing anyone is fucking SAD. Give it up, or at least say something a little more enlightening than “you know Jesus was a jew???”

    Moron

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    I’d diss cam’ron’s ass back to the fuckin’ stone age.

    I love DMX tho’. (no danny pintauro)

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Black Moon comment was a shot cuz I love Joe Budden (no homo blah blah), but “I gotcha open” was & still is a great fuckin’ song.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    that shit look like a dance a crippled person made…you know like forest gump and elvis presley

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    transi’s mom > bol’s mom

    (Bol mama can’t cook)

  • thoreauly77

    anybody want some rap music?

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    Jesus was not a jew…thats religion…He didn’t teach religion or practice it for that matter…boy I tell you Degenerates and their ignorance really bothers me

  • Young A. Simmons

    Jesus another sob story bout a dude gettin dumped by his ho. (no Rey)

    btw saw that Fry chicken song by Peaches or whatever he’s called and it was literally disgraceful. That vid is the very definition of coon behaviour.

  • Fernando

    I know Community College makes you want to share your little gems with the group…but give it up. I know you are all about spreading black pride and enlightenment on BOL’S Blog, but trying to justify Chicken Noodle Soup & retartidly large gold chains with “African Culture” makes you seem like an apologist for stupid ass shit….Which you are

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Hush, Thoreau. Nobody’s allowed to actually like rap music anymore.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Ouch.. Et tu, Young A?

  • thoreauly77

    good than i guess i’ll just flip the misfits earth a.d. over to side b and listen to some green hell.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    For all you dum a-holes out there…here is a history lesson for you…Africans use to dance in a similar fashion as we do downsouth during cerimonies and rituals…all to a beat of a drum…what did Nas say,”big hips and butts dancin
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    notice how i said down south…fuck that dum as dance the north gave birth to

  • Fernando

    The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE Says:

    September 25th, 2006 at 4:20 pm
    Jesus was not a jew…thats religion…He didn’t teach religion or practice it for that matter…boy I tell you Degenerates and their ignorance really bothers me

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Still trying to impress the group, yet missed the point that I was posting that comment as something HE WOULD SAY.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Word, thor. Getcha Jerry Only on.

    Um, N-Cred? Ya know what else started up north? Hip-Hop.

    Thanks for stopping by.

  • thoreauly77

    the dj that changed his name because of constant sonnery- judaism is a culture, a religion, and an ethnicity. jesus was born a jew but did not practice religious judaism. must be hard to see what youre typing with your head so far up your ass.

  • thoreauly77

    and that quote is from “i’m an african” by dead prez.

  • Fernando

    So southern Blacks booty dancing has a connection to African culture, but the dancing a few hundred miles away doesnt?????/

    And you quoted NAS (a northern dude) to hammer home your point! Retard

  • Meka Soul

    >For all you dum a-holes out there…here is a history lesson for you…Africans use to dance in a similar fashion as we do downsouth during cerimonies and rituals…all to a beat of a drum…what did Nas say,”big hips and butts dancin
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    notice how i said down south…fuck that dum as dance the north gave birth to>

    we also don’t do the motorcycle, a-town stomp or that gooy shit miami jigs used to do to avoid getting shot at in duval county.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    Jesus was bor a human being not a jew…thats like me being born in a muslim country…does that make me a muslim

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Everybody’s so damm sensitive on here.

    Alright kids, I’m outtie. Quittin’ time in NY.

    UNO!

    PS- Belize, there’s no way in fuck the X-Men could stop the thundercats, or the transformers…BEEYOTCH!

  • thoreauly77

    dj imatard- you are not making a very strong case for yourself when everything you write is complete dumbfuckery.

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/ I Fux

    ^ thoreauly77 on point thankx for clearin up

  • Belize

    lol @ rey tryin to get sum pumpum..but damn u broke up with that bitch before shaq lost hair…damn…u need to invest in a blowup doll buffy

    meka- u know yall started that chicken noodle shyt in nigeria…just instead of chiken soup yall use cow foot soup…with a icee on the side

  • Fernando

    You guys hear that????

    Its the sound of Dj-n-credibly-sunned flipping frantically through his community college “african history & hip hop 121″ class notes trying to find something to say.

  • thoreauly77

    and being born in a muslim country generally would make you a muslim — but your rationalization really doesnt make any sense. how old are you? please tell me that youre only about 13 or 14 and i can excuse almost everything you write.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    LOL @ Beli.

    Okay, gone for real. Peace out YoungN-CredibleThoreauMekaLizeFuxAndo..

    ..and Cthulhu too cuz she could get it.

  • Fernando

    lmao @ cow foot soup with a icee on the side.

  • Belize

    (faux ny accent):
    Tellin u thats that new hot shyt son!!!!!

  • thoreauly77

    i think djwhodunnit got zinged right the fuck on outta here.

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/ I Fux

    what about the W.I.L.D.C.A.T.S., that shit was fiya

    Anyways being dumped cuz I was lying> being dumped cuz I was too nice or being cheated on

  • Fernando

    Computer – $2000

    Time at work on Bols Blog – $50

    Dj-n-credibly-dumb getting ridiculously sunned… – PRICELESS

  • Belize

    lol @ Ifux gettin his bill bellamy on

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/ I Fux

    if you want to make random lewd comments and post them on my blog, I hav a picture up there somewhere of her, bitch couldnt take the incesstant lying anymore, I was trying to cover my cheating ways

  • thoreauly77

    i thought she was your baby moms ifux? thats foul yo.

  • Belize

    iv been smokin to much lately, so exuse me if im lost alil but didnt DJ original-name, change his name-got sonned -then- changed his name back-got sonned again?

  • thoreauly77

    seems like you smoked just the right amount belize.

  • allnice

    I can see rapping getting replaced by singing and other bullshit since writing good raps is like being a decent blacksmith (Remember when Ghostface was actually nice? Daytona 500 on the Ironman….classic….). You might be really good at your job, but eventually, your work is too expensive, tedious, and no longer necessary.

    I think white groups haven’t been able to takeover hip hop because most white people really suck at rapping (with a few notable exceptions like Eminem, Everlast, dude from Company Flow….and that’s it!). Cats like Justin Timberlake and Danity Kane can just use the studio to make their singing voices sound nice over some hip hop beats instead of having to spit some bars.

    I am not sure, but wasn’t rock and roll already garbage when white people took it over? Hip hop is already trash right now, so I don’t really mind if it turns into some r&b hybrid bullshit.

  • Fernando

    And then its over.

  • Belize

    coudnt find that bitch on ur blog…plus im a lil too lazy to search but she sounds like a “I like to recycle tampon’s” bitch

  • Fernando

    I kind of wish Dj-get-served didnt get punked so hard. I never intended my first jab to cause an avalanche of sunnery to fly his way. Its always nice to have a piniata in the room…..oh well, he was a fucking idiot and we are all dumber for talking to him

  • Fernando

    Im gonna get high as a kite (off that good Oregon green) before this bossy ass MNF game tonight. Peace Out

  • Gettn’ Money In 06

    Thought Proviking 2 Say Tha Least

  • Gettn’ Money In 06

    And whatz da deal with everybody bringin back the Damn 80′s ass rope chains. Get somethin new

  • Meka Soul

    >meka- u know yall started that chicken noodle shyt in nigeria…just instead of chiken soup yall use cow foot soup…with a icee on the side>

    just as mexican… err… belizeans created the “cross that river, jump that fence” dance.

  • Belize

    blaze it up playa

  • Meka Soul

    i kid of course. you guys make great day laborers.

  • Belize

    >just as mexican… err… belizeans created the “cross that river, jump that fence” dance.

    ^naw thats krumpin’…we do punta

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/ I Fux

    thoreal
    ^ she is but its been 3 years working towards marriage getting our home together and now I am fucked, back with my mom at 25, I will pick the pieces up

  • Belize

    mek- my back is a lil wet though, maybe u should let me borrow that towel on ur head to dry off…awww fux…wrong race

  • Meka Soul

    >thoreal
    ^ she is but its been 3 years working towards marriage getting our home together and now I am fucked, back with my mom at 25, I will pick the pieces up>

    things could be worse… you could be a blogger for xxlmag.com.

  • http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1589/3737/1600/arambeezy.jpg I Fux

    click on my name this her and me, happier times

    Belize
    ^

  • Meka Soul

    >mek- my back is a lil wet though, maybe u should let me borrow that towel on ur head to dry off…awww fux…wrong race>

    just put “nigerian” & homicidal spear chuckers” in the same sentence & we’re equal.

  • Belize

    ur link is f’d up

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_aramhiphopetc_archive.html I Fux

    My fault try it now and scroll down, It worked when I tried it….

    Belize, Rey, Meka… I have no clue about your situations but when you find someone who is good to you most of the time dont fuck it up,

  • Belize

    k lets make this interesting….

    top 5 rappers that should have went solo

    1. Havoc
    2. Armaggedon (TS)
    3. Big Boi (sorry i dont play that 2 in 1 cd shyt)
    4. Black Thought
    5. Posdnuos (de la soul)

    *I wanted to put DJ Premier, but he’s not a rapper

    Holla back

  • Belize

    She gotz big ol’ titties..

    Not sure about the whole “keep a bitch” thang, i learned to keep the heart cold…that usually preserves the sexy

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    I feel that, Fux. Forget that internet macho No Homo shit, man. Sometimes that breakup stuff hurts. I’ve been there and it’s fucking miserable, and I don’t care who makes fun of me about it. Everybody’s been there. Stay up, man.

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_aramhiphopetc_archive.html I Fux

    1. Why are you asking this, the people you listed probably dont have enough charisma and rhymes to carry a whole album on their own…. Well except Big Boi he could do it…..

    Young Chris from the Gunnaz can rhyme his ass off

    I was listening to the The Lost Boyz love,peace and nappiness, why hasnt this album garnered classic praise, that shit smashes and Canibus’s verse on Beast of the East is ridiculous

  • Young A. Simmons

    Back living with moms in mid twenties?
    damn that’s some Byron Crawford ish right there.

    Fuck a bitch.

    jerking to lesbian porn > having sex with an actual female.
    yea i said it.

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_aramhiphopetc_archive.html I Fux

    I know I couldnt just let my macho bravado prove to my friends that I can still pull the hoes go, and at the end of the day frontin’ got me caught up, well we still have a little girl and she isnt completely mad at me and just wants me to grow up and quit trying to prove that I am a mack to my boyz, which is tough when you can catch more hate from your boys then the comment section on DJ Drama’s no defunct blog

  • Belize

    1. Why are you asking this, the people you listed probably dont have enough charisma and rhymes to carry a whole album on their own

    ^Have u heard Havoc lately? He would have gone plat solo if he didnt have anorexic P with him

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_aramhiphopetc_archive.html I Fux

    Yo I saw them Live and the worst thing happened they performed like their whole new album and only did a little bit of their old stuff and it sounded horrible which I blamed the venue for that, and another thing it was a cockfest wow was it a cockfest

    anyways how about that Love,Peace and Nappiness

  • BELIZE

    >I was listening to the The Lost Boyz love,peace and nappiness, why hasnt this album garnered classic praise, that shit smashes and Canibus’s verse on Beast of the East is ridiculous

    ^Cant be a classic when evybody knows somebody’ else’s verse on ur cd…but, I really only was a fan of Renee, by far my top songs ever…..shyt, u better not listen to it especially with our feminie problems right now, Renne will make any man sad

  • BELIZE

    but lost boys > 1/2 the shyt out right now

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_aramhiphopetc_archive.html I Fux

    Word I feel you, but that album is burning up the spins on my IPOD’s 25 most played

  • BELIZE

    Rey Says:

    September 25th, 2006 at 5:22 pm
    I feel that, Fux. Forget that internet macho No Homo shit, man. Sometimes that breakup stuff hurts. I’ve been there and it’s fucking miserable, and I don’t care who makes fun of me about it. Everybody’s been there. Stay up, man.

    ^Yeah..i feel u…dont worry though, as I said, at 24 u develop a cold heart for bicthes (again a BIG difference b/w women and bitches…big difference)

  • Belize

    Haaa…i remember when i broke up wit one of my girls i kept bumpin:
    r. kelly’s “u made me luv u” from the choclate factory, “wonder y they call u a bitch” from 2pac and “fuk u” from eamon

  • http://therapup.blogspot.com Huh?!?

    ^^if YOU broke up with her why you playin’ “i’m mad at u” music

    You just told on yourself

  • Belize

    ^Cuz pussy makes u do crazy shyt like that

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_aramhiphopetc_archive.html I Fux

    Ya she just called me 2 minutes ago to say that I stop showing affection so thats why she started checking my phone and then bam

    Alex=Alejandra
    Bobby=Bobbi
    John=Joan

    and so on, the worst part I wasnt really cheating just keeping my options open

    Nature “we aint friends” its dope but more of a friends song

  • Belize

    lol @ crazy bitches in general

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_aramhiphopetc_archive.html I Fux

    by the way my Baby’s mom is a good girl, I just got tired of catering to all her needs but not getting credit for it

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_aramhiphopetc_archive.html I Fux

    R Kelly is a beast at making mood music

    ^ fuck chix that check cellphones, mail, packages, etc…

  • Belize

    We look on the bright side, u could have gotten caught up like Pierre in “How to be a Playa”

    As far as catering to needs, u need to look at the real picture, its always gonna happen, every girl is like that…u just gotta learn to flip it on em’ once in a while

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_aramhiphopetc_archive.html I Fux

    Ya I am with that, but doing this get to know a chick and then dating, is starting to get old an I am only 25,

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_aramhiphopetc_archive.html I Fux

    Nature “For All Seasons”= Classic in my mind

  • Belize

    Yeah..but at least ur not 35, that means u got a couple years to get ur money, mind and game right…shyt just evaluate what u want from a female and find one that clicks..rome wasnt built in one day pympyn’

  • http://aramhiphopetc.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_aramhiphopetc_archive.html I Fux

    I will do, time to get my cake up and I will be hitting the gym with this extra time I will hav. Peace

  • Belize

    lol @ the gym

  • Joab “The Millennium Photographer”

    No comment…it was just a great read! Good job, Mr. Crawford

  • bigHOMIE from the WEST

    Go listen to that Old K Dee album, Azz, Gas or Cash (No One Rides for fre)

    That’ll give you your ENTIRE swagger back, plus some.

  • http://www.myspace.com/angelsometimes Cthulhu

    Lame lame lame.
    What a boring point of view to have, and what a boring thing to post. I’m sick of white people being equated with everything lame in hip hop considering that Danity Kane is a black man’s concoction full of mainly non-white girls. Beyonce is harldy black, but she is black. Justine Timberlake…I’ll give you that one. It’s not that I’d listen to him but I mean come on he’s not that bad. It’s better to have Timberlake around than fucking Yung Joc. Too bad we have both. Why should we fault the white man for being opportunistic and smart in business? They’re just doing THE EXACT SAME FUCKING THING BLACK GUYS DO WHEN THEY GET INTO POWER SITUATIONS in the music industry. What, you think Jay and Diddy operate by some fucking code of ethics about not exploiting and degrading hip hop? Fuck no.
    I just think this was a redundant, pointless post.

  • 110 street

    im done with the game for a while it will hopefully get back to that late 80s or that mid 90s level when niggas really wanted to rap now its snap, pop,and throw your lower back out.

  • 110 street

    not for nothing most of yall read bol shit just to hate, thought i would just say that one time. (no bodyguard)

  • gettohellsoon

    Bol, you are disgrace to people of color everywhere. Your blatant racial comments
    prove just how ignorant you truly are. Everytime there is some issue, your answer has to be something regarding race. Maybe record sales suck right now because most of the rappers out now suck. Thats pretty simple to understand.
    Who’s to say a genre belongs to anyone anyways? Just because a particular person or group of people pioneer something, that doesn’t mean it can’t belong to everyone. Are there any white people out there complaining that black folks stole basketball? not that I’ve ever heard, of course if they did, they would be just as ignorant as you. Why XXL actually keeps you on the payrole, I’m not sure. But if they had any respect for themselves or thier subscribers, they would drop you back in the cardboard box they found you in. So, go fuck yourself (yes homo, cause thats how you get down.)

  • tru mindset

    TRIPLE CO-SIGN
    ————————————
    Maybe rap albums would sell if there wasn’t a bunch of transparent, meaningless bullshit getting pumped out of the South. It makes me sick. I suppose the South isn’t entirely to blame. We have Crunk’s younger, gayer cousin Hyphy here in the West.

    A casual listener might flip to BET or MTV and see a bunch of retards dancing aroud cars they can’t afford filled with big-assed whores chanting “booty booty booty booty rocking everywhere”, mistake it for being representative of the entire genre, and quickly dismiss quality rap albums (which now are few and far between)as the same brand of worthless trash.

    Rap albums sell like they have AIDS on them because corporate America, like always, has bent hip hop over and dry-fucked it in its pursuit of “cool.” Talentless shitbags and career criminals are hired and recklessly mistaken for talented musicians. Thank God for Nas, Game, and Jay; they can’t drop soon enough in my eyes.
    ————————————–
    TRIPLE CO-SIGN

    ‘A’ fucking ‘MEN’

  • http://www.xxlmag.com Mav

    THEBESTOUT. DAM! I LAUGHED MY ASS OFF. YOU FUNNY. DAM MAN LIL BOOSIE AIN’T MADE A DIME. SHIT THAT FUNNY! CALLING NELLY A SAMBO! FUNNYSHIT! CAN’T STOP LAUGHING.

  • Bol’sARacist

    Shut up you racist cunt.

  • T-Boye,Boy!!

    Ayo Fernado made me laugh with his comment about Andre 3000 releasing his “inner fruit” hahahaha!!!

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    IGNORANCE IS A BLISSFUL STATE

  • e

    This post is similar to 5 other ones you have done this month. Step ur game up Bol

  • http://www.dmcworld.com/technics2004/video/2004dj1-100k.wvx O U RAP 2

    “Who gives a fuck about rock and roll anymore anyway?”

    Blacks are stealing ROCK: http://www.myspace.com/wholewheatbread

  • Jay W

    This is the realest shit you ever wrote.

  • Spark

    Love, dont love anybody. beware of the power of women ’cause love will break down the srtongest of us all

  • http://www.myspace.com/angelsometimes Cthulhu

    I never really thought of it this way but I’m starting to think it’s really funny in a sad way to hear black people trying to claim hip hop for themselves as if it’s their personal property. If it ever belonged to anyone, it certainly wasn’t a majority of black people in America…just the Bronx community or whatever. You can’t have it both ways…you can’t promote your music to Americans en masse and welcome whitey’s money and then get territorial. And it’s not even like it’s exclusively or even mainly white people who buy into the ridiculously lame bullshit being churned out. On the one hand it is widely acknowledged that the majority of people buying the supposedly more “evolved and enlightened” forms of hip hop are white kids, and then at the same time white kids get blamed for making bullshit rap profitable. I don’t see what kind of sense that makes. What are black fans responsible for, then? While I know plenty of black people who have good taste in hip hop, I know plenty more who like absolute bullshit. It’s not just white kids with bad taste.
    Danity Kane type stuff isn’t the same as hip hop, so it can’t actually take over the genre. It can just take over the market. It’s like saying that the future of heavy metal is hard rock. When one genre similar to another gains more popularity, it doesn’t destroy the original genre, just makes it less popular for a while. Maybe hip hop would benefit from some soul searching, maybe it will have a positive effect on the genre by making it go back to the drawing board.
    Danity Kane is way less obnoxious and annoying than lil jon and shit, is it a bad thing if pop music knocks rappers off the charts for a few years? What mainstream rappers out there are really worth listening to in the first place right now? I would take pop over the current incarnation of rap anyday, and I hate both.

  • VAgangsta

    hey Fernando…..my lawn needs mowin….get yo cousins to get they border jumpin ass over and cut that shit….maybe ill give em an orange as a treat…..fuck out of here b

  • VAgangsta

    ohh….whats goin on now in hiphop is straight gargabe….artists are sellin their souls to make some money….dont ever make the mistake of grouping artists such as Pac, Biggie, Jay, Big L with artists like DFB, Yung Joc, D4L, and all the other garbage thats out there…..what we have now are GIMMICKS marketed towards the young kids…..its the kids that buyin the chiken noodle soup and chain hang low…..HIPHOP IS GARBAGE NOW…..IF YOU ARE A TRUE HIPHOP HEAD THEN U KNOW BOUT THESE ALBUMS THAT I STEADY BUMP IN MY CAR:
    1. INFAMOUS MOBB DEEP (1996)
    2. BIGGIES’ READY TO DIE
    3. JAY-Z’S REASONABLE DOUBT
    4. NAS’S ILLMATIC
    5. 50 CENT’S “GUESS WHO’S BACK”
    6. TUPAC’S “MACHAVELI”

    THOSE ALBUMS REPRESENT REAL HIPHOP…..WHAT IS ON THE AIRWAVES NOW, ESPECIALLY FROM THE SOUTH IS GIMMICKED GARBAGE….HOLLA BACK

  • raul

    great post bol i just think that rap right now is in a transition stage when the rap struggles it always eventualy overcomes it. With that bein said i think there is gonna be a huge backlash at sothern hiphop(Like the disco sucks movement) in the next couple years what do y’all think

  • Trizzt08

    You guys and this lame hiphop ain’t the same no more you know what things have changed. Outside the Unit and the South ain’t too many people doing much of anything. HipHop is still in fine shape. I mean if you want to hear political shit shoved down your throat then by all means buy the Roots,Questlove,Talib Kweli,and such. The people want to hear the newest 50,Young Jeezy, T.I. Papoose.

  • http://www.myspace.com/youngmaica who am i?

    as i read this i almost felt like i was writing it. well said my good man

  • BlackBetty

    Hip hop gets no special treatment. People with money want more money and when they see or hear anything that people, black or white, put out with an appeal to the masses it is going to get commerciallized. When hip hop first showed up in a McDonalds commercial (kid’s in a cypher spittin about a double quarter pounder w/cheese) did you take it as an insult or compliment.

  • gipsy

    hay bol i have a question werent you just complaining about the fact that you dont like wene white ppl say nigga well im cuban and i could care less what u like or dont like ok but maybe if black pll well i cant say black ppl but u demand respect you should give it to by maybee not saying craka ass crakka i belive is what u sed… my point is ur a hipocrite biotchhh
    if u didnt no respect works both ways if you give it u get it so yea i think that these blogs are just u trying to sound smart ok and just plain ole talking out of the ass

  • Padillac

    Cracka ass crackas, huh?

    You’re a racist moron Byron Crawford.

    You’re also an embarrassment to level headed black Americans who believe that race isn’t a significant issue.

    If I ever saw you I’d probably knock your teeth out with my cracka ass cracka fists, because you are a racist pussy.