61,000 Roots fans can’t be wrong

I went to one of the sites I hit up on Wednesday mornings for a chart recap, and there was nothing there about the Roots. First I had to check and make sure Game Theory came out last week (it did), since it’s not like I pay too much attention to actual street dates.

Then I became concerned that Game Theory may have debuted so far down the albums chart that it didn’t warrant inclusion in any Wednesday morning chart recaps. Come to find out, Game Theory did in fact debut in the top 10, albeit way the fuck down at the bottom of the top 10.

Whew!

Number 9, to be exact. The new Roots album moved about 61,000 units its first week out, which was about 1,000 more than Nickelback’s year-old All the Right Reasons, which rounded out the top 10. And about 1,000 less than Method Man’s 4:21… The Day After, which debuted at number 8.

If this was any year since Soundscan began tracking album sales other than 2006, it would be easy to write Game Theory off as a huge, miserable failure. But in an age when even the best-selling albums are only going 1x platinum, I’m no longer sure what to think.

Indeed it could very well be possible to characterize 61,000 your first week out as some sort of coup for the Roots, if not also Def Jam and the rest of hip-hop in general. But I’ll leave that to ?uestlove and his team of piff pocketers over at the okayplayer boards, where I learned how to write.

At this point, I’m more interested in what these figures mean with regard to Jay-Z’s career as the fake president of Def Jam. No one was expecting the Roots to do well enough to recoup anyway, so them doing Bob Seger numbers is just less income they’ll have to file with the IRS for 2006.

The problem is that I’m not sure what they’ve got in store in terms of commercially viable music in order to balance this mess out. If “challenging” rap like the Roots is selling 60,000 copies, but LCD rap like Rick Ross is only selling 200,000 copies, how the fuck can they afford to pay Jay $3 million a year?

  • Nigeria

    ”Number 9, to be exact. The new Roots album moved about 61,000 units its first week out, which was about 1,000 more than Nickelback’s year-old All the Right Reasons, which rounded out the top 10. And about 1,000 more than Method Man’s 4:21… The Day After, which debuted at number 8.”

    That paragraph doesn’t make sense.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Primero. Jeez Bol, this the next shot in the war between you & Tara? (I’m rooting for her, btw)

    Normally I’d take this opportunity to insult you or defend the roots or jay-z to the bitter end, but not this time.

    Jay needs to get out from behind that desk and put out another album. Rap fans all across the damm world have been beaten to death with the LCD rap and need a reason to believe. A new Hov, Nas, Dre, or even Em or Fif CD will do just that.

    UNO!

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Dammit. Segundo.

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    That paragraph doesn’t make sense.
    ^^^
    Yeah, I give my secretary Wednesdays off.

    Fortunately, there’s you.

  • Nigeria

    ”Yeah, I give my secretary Wednesdays off.

    Fortunately, there’s you.”

    Always a pleasure to be of service. No Greg Louganis.

  • Spark

    Leave The Roots alone, Shyte .

  • Big Jake

    bol, i talked to your moms just a minute ago…she said she was gonna take the van away if you didnt go cut the grass. just lookin out for you homie

  • Mr.Me

    Doctors Advocate

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Word, Game is gonna go plat, so is Diddy, Fif, & Probably Buck. Ditto for Nas & Jay when they drop. Banks is gonna go Gold, but this article is proof that going Gold still matters.

    I have a lot of respect for the roots but have they ever sold?

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    u a faggit ass nigga bol

    hova wud be a complete failure were it not for “thug motivation 101″ and “late registration”

  • Jerz!

    YO……………………..

    He said Bob Seger numbers lololol.

    But hey, people will be buying roots albums years down the line so its not terrible.

  • Harvard

    Bol is an absolutley worthless, fat fuck.

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    bol, i talked to your moms just a minute ago…she said she was gonna take the van away if you didnt go cut the grass.
    ^^^
    Yeah, I talked to your moms this morning.

    She said next time I might even be able to get a “freebie.”

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    havent da roots gone gold a few times? cuz dey got da whole backpacker/people who like “real music with real instruments” solid fanbase from all da tourin dey done?

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    i imagine bol look like martin lawrence in da fat suit in big momma house

  • thoreauly77

    momma jokes in the comments section, egads!

    seems like exactly the figures the roots would do their first week. maybe next time they can do record ring-tone numbers if they just make a dance to accompany their song and make every performance one big jiggy minstrel show. fuck yeah!

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    I think Phrenology went gold..

    But seriously.. Bleek, Young Gunz, Ghostface, The Roots.. When have they ever sold records? Rick Ross’ grizzly ass doesn’t even count, He’s just a Young Jeezy clone (don’t start with who had the style first..Def Jam said “Jeezy sold? Bring us another Jeezy!” and they got the first similar cat from down “souf”) that nobody really cared about to begin with, so it’s not like he “flopped”, ya know?

    So with all that, How the hell is most of that Jay-Z’s fault? I’m sure he’s RAPPED on a ton of projects that didn’t move units. His fucking “stamp of approval” isn’t gonna do it.

    Yeah he said “I sold kilos of coke, I’m guessin’ I can sell CDs”, but look at who he’s working with!

  • JR DOT

    numbers dont mean shit.the new roots album is kronic. best album this year and most probably last year.

  • Here Comes The Hot Sauce

    They went gold once, with Things Fall Apart….otherwise, it’s all bricks…

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    shit..i mean i imagine bol mom look like martin lawrence in da fat suit in big momma house

    ghostface first 2 albums went plat and gold, rey

    u would think ghostface wud still go at least gold cuz ery devil and gook (da people who actually buy the cds) are into him

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Besides, it’s not the economy, it’s not the “souf”, it’s not Jay-Z or Fiddy, it’s not any of the stuff we bitch about on here that’s killing music sales.

    Every home in the world is rocking a cable modem now since phone, cable, and internet all come in one package (no homo), so now instead of College kids downloading music the first 2 or 3 years of this decade, ANYONE THAT CAN USE A COMPUTER IS STEALING MUSIC! Fucking Kris Ex has whole posts on how to steal music!

    So what these fuckers do is download the one song from their fave MC du jour (lemme know if you need help with “du jour”, transi) and move on to the next “hot nigga” (no jonathan taylor thomas) and be done with it.

    Fuckin’ serves the LABELS right for leaking the single for 3 months before the album drops (“Touch It”, anyone?–um…that sounds wrong) and then wondering why nobody bought the dammed album, and then NOT EVEN GIVING THE ARTIST A 2ND SINGLE TO TRY AND DRUM UP INTEREST!

    Part two is that alot of what’s sold SUCKS! So of course said Label is gonna find the next guy that sounds like the first guy..THAT SUCKS!! Thus continuing the cycle.

    So yeah. That’s why nobody’s fucking selling.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    That’s two out of what, 6? You know what I mean.

  • thoreauly77

    sheeit, i have bought every ghostface album, blond hair and blue eyed devil that i am. alas, i am not enough…

  • Danja29

    Rey- dead on-point about why nobody’s selling.

    And most of the people complaining about why such-and-such’s album ain’t sellin’ are the same muhfukkas who sat up at their computer to download the shits two weeks in advance.

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    well put Rey… u make ur father (that being me) proud!
    (no transi at summer camp)

  • Fernando

    Roots are played the fuck out. They need to go the “D’Angelo” route and release a sick album every 5 years. I can only handle so much live backpack rap. Things fall apart was sick though. So was illadelph halflife. If Jay came back, I would just download his shit too. The only CD’s I buy are sick “non-mainstream” rap that is too hard to find to download…a.k.a = Mac Dre, Brotha Lynch, Messy Marv, Devin

    Mark Macon

  • Fernando

    The real reason I dont buy mainstream CD’s anymore is because I hate the feeling of spending $18 for a piece of shit. I used to buy EVERY Outkast album until Geekerboxxx / Shitbelow killed that. There is not much commercial acts left to depend on.

    P.S – Im happy as fuck I didnt buy Idlewild. Decent album, but 8 good songs aint worth more than $10.

  • LONZO

    I really don’t want to hear a Jay-Z cd bcuz he lost the fire he had wen he first came through. The Blueprint, RD, are classics but now he needs to stay retired……..wat the fuck is he gonna rap about? Paperwork and the hard times behind a desk at Def Jam?…………Rey, FOB sux, The Killers are better.

  • http://www.buildthedream.org DGthegreat

    It’s time to stop paying attention to album sales!!!

    This year proves that no matter how good/great/half-ass a hip-hop album is, it is not going to sell well. The truth is there have been at least three, maybe four, good/great hip hop albums this year and none have sold over 1x platinum!

    Chamillionaire is about 1,000 units away from being this year’s top-selling rap artist (Yes, I know you don’t want to be believe this, but it is FACT. Not T.I., Busta Rhymes, or Rick Ross, or Outkast. Chamillionaire!)

    The pendulum in music has simply shifted back to pop and rock (Justin Timberlake will damn near sell a million his first week next week. It’s sad, but it’s true.)

    Hip-hop can’t keep putting out trash music on the radio and in turn not promote quality like The Root’s Game Theory and expect to sell units. Don’t believe the bullshit about the machine not playing message music. Chamillionaire’s Ridin Dirty was about racial profiling (racial porfiling!)and it was the #1 song in the country!

    Hip-hop will have to settle for gold as the new platinum again. Until Jay-Z understands that HE is hurting hip-hop by his post as Def Jam President (I know he was trying to show that we don’t have enough black execs, but maybe LL Cool J was right when he said Jay-Z does a good job… of promoting Jay-Z. You can’t go three days without a Jay-Z headline, but Def Jam artist have upcoming albums and consistently have been underpromoted.)

    Jay-Z should return to making albums for the better of hip-hop. He may be the only hip-hop artist (besides Dr. Dre) who can move units. Not Eminem (too far gone), Not Nas (losing credibility. Yes he’s one of the best, but can we get some consistency!) Not 50 (people are just getting tired of the same antics. Beef with Diddy?!! You gotta be fucking kidding me.

    At the end of the day. Game Theory maybe the Roots best work to date! To bad Jay-Z didn’t think so!

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    rey..i think we both know dat my vivid vocabulary far surpasses yours

    u skeeter valentine ass sidekick nigga

  • Fernando

    The great rap acts are just gone. Face it. Were left with ghey unit, a bunch of shitty solo acts, a ton of decent bay area / down south solo acts…BUT NO GREAT GROUPS. Even my favorite artists come out with albums that have MAYBE 8-9 good songs. Where are the 36 chambers, illmatics, soul on ice

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    jesus

    sum faggit jus wrote a comment dat even longer then rey rambling mess

  • Fernando

    Bols topics are becomming as useless as his man boobs (no hybrid cars) He need to do a topic on ANYTHING besides a Non-controversial, middle-of-the-pack, 15 yr old rap group.

    This is like the Jeff Hornacek of Bol’s blog topics

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    oh god

    AGING 90S BACKPACKERS IN CRYING OVER THEIR LOST YOUTH WHILE REFERENCING “ILLMATIC” AND “36 CHAMBERS” IN ALERT !!!!!!

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    bol needta do a FIRE DJ DRAMA blog on hea

    lets get rid of dat lazy ass white freeway lookin’ faggit

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    Idlewild > Game Theory

  • pop a poppa

    if The Roots and Method Man can crack the Billboard’s top 10 with basically no video and radio play, then i think you have to call that a success. especially this year. nobody BUYS music anymore so the terms of success have to be redefined. during the past couple years the biggest selling albums (Mariah’s The Emancipation Of Mimi, 50′s Massacre, Eminem’s Encore) have all topped out around 5 million sold. i think its time to say that 500,000 is the new platinum and 5 million is the new diamond. who in they right mind gonna buy some music nowadays? not me, and by the looks of the sales charts not a lot of other people either.

  • I Fux

    Cd’s are hella cheap nowdays 10 bucks or less when they come out, by the way the only CD I have bought this year is Fishscale and I may buy Best Thang Smokin’ anyways quit complaining and go buy the shit most of the shit sux, I will definitely buy the new Clipse though, its just my Ipod has 10,000 songs and I could never ever finish listening to all that shit, so most of the time I listen to what I know and dont fuck with LCD rap

  • Meka Soul

    hmmm…

  • pop a poppa

    THE TRANSIENT Says:

    bol needta do a FIRE DJ DRAMA blog on hea

    lets get rid of dat lazy ass white freeway lookin’ faggit

    ______________________

    yea for real Bol… time to start throwin’ dirt at ya dead weights over there. i think that Bol pays Drama and Yellow Nigga to write columns for his post every other day. thaz why they don’t ever write shit on their own blogs and why Bol can only afford a minivan instead of a new Hyundai.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Sonny– Thanks, dad. Can I borrow the car?

    ‘Zo– I dig the Fall Out Boy, man. Altho’ I am definitely feeling the new Killers song. Bol wacked off about it on his site but he was actually right about it being really good. (no dj drama)

    Transient– You’re fuckin’ hilarious, but then again, retarded people always make me giggle.

    Word, DJ Drama needs to gizzo. (sorry)

    Pop– Gold is def. the new Platinum.

    Fuck Justin Timberlake.

  • Affili

    I think P2P file sharing not Southern Rap(As horrible as it is)killed hip hop.
    Oh we also cant forget about the metrosexual

  • BOL

    I like little boys.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Just for the record: I am one of those people that buys CDs still. I’m careful about what I pick up so I tend to not be disappointed.

    …except for the last Bubba Sparxxx album that came out in April or May. I loved “Deliverance” (and he’s from the south, so fuck off everyone that gives me shit about “hatin on da souf”), so I was looking forward to it. However, it only had 11 tracks, and 3 of them were obvious attempts at Stripper rap (stripper rap > crack rap), and the ones I liked got old quick. (except for the one with Petey Pablo–that one was really good)

  • Fernando

    Black eyed peas killed hip hop.

    Transient – What the fuck were you lisetening to in 94?? I know you cry at night since Blind Melon & The Spin Doctors arent around anymore. At least you will always have your Hansen posters.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    lol @ Fern.

    Fuck the Black Eyed Peas, Bow Wow, & Justin Timberlake.

    David Wells

  • Meka Soul

    piff pocketers… nice.

    >Jay needs to get out from behind that desk and put out another album.>

    he’s way ahead of you, rey. trust.

    i’ll be honest: i don’t buy albums anymore. what’s the point of “supporting the artist” when a: the albums being released are 100% diarrhea hoagies & 2: the albums take 2+ years to drop ["food & liquor?" "hell hath no fury?"]. we all know artists don’t make money off album sales [if that were the case, sheek louch would be a gajillionaire selling all those "$8 per record" turd bombs]; but making their fan base wait and/or letting them down doesn’t help matters.

    that said, “hell hath no fury” & “food & liquor:” coming soon to a message board near you.

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    >>>Sonny– Thanks, dad. Can I borrow the car?

    sure thing son… just make sure to drop off transi by his curfew, u know Bol get’s mad when Transi is late!

  • The Dza

    Rey had wet dreams of becoming a blogger for this site. Dude. Get a life. Stop writing fucking essays as comments you lame.

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    artist need to give the fans INCENTIVE to “buy” their music…

  • Fernando

    And how do you call someone aging who listened to 36 chambers, illmatic, & soul on ice??? I was like thirteen / foourteen when that shit dropped. And that shit crushes anything post-1998. No contest. Transi can hype little wayne & yung jeezy all he wants, but I feel really bad for anyone who grew up on hip hop after ’97-’98. Kids are bangin “my humps” and think Eminem is “hardcore”. Shit sucks

  • Meka Soul

    shit sammich> gille da kid >petey pablo > black eyed peas

  • I Fux

    Bow Wow killed Hip-Hop and also P2P file sharing and Mixtapes with half a niggas album on it….

    Willie Beamon, the Sandlot, Rocky Balboa, Ivan Drago, howard the duck

  • Meka Soul

    >artist need to give the fans INCENTIVE to “buy” their music…>

    remember when g-unit tried to pawn off their chains for album sales? hilariously deplorable.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com/?cat=29 noz

    Ross sold 366,000.

  • I Fux

    No Homo but Entourage by Omarion bangs

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Sonny– You know Transi is seeing The DZA now.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Meka– I remember that. Priceless. Maybe Paul Wall can give away a Grill with his next album.

    Clubber Lang, Biff Tannen, Archie Bunker

  • 5 STAR X-E-Q-SHUN

    Game Theory is a tight album.
    BTW- word is that Jay-Z came out of “RETIREMENT” & is working on an album

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Hey, I have a question for the non-retarded people that are on here:

    Since rap sucks so bad, what are you guys listening to now? Old stuff? More towards Pop/R&B? More towards Rock?

    I only as cuz I’m noticing that alot of pop (not girl r&b tho’–rhianna, cherish, cassie, ciara all make me wish I was deaf) and rock stuff is like a billion times better written (grammar alert!) than most “urban” music.

    Anyone?

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Fuck Chris Brown, too. (no ashton)

  • Belize

    “And about 1,000 less than Method Man’s 4:21… The Day After, which debuted at number 8.”
    ^Im luvin it! Im fukin Luvin it….Mef CD is raw as shit…no promotion…..and it still did better than the roots……..YES!!!!

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Enter Belize.

    Belize : Meth as Rey : Kanye

  • Affili

    I’d also like to say being a hip-hop loving resident of St. louis I am looking for the chain hang low dude that shit just aint right.

    And he stole the hook(no homo)from another local artist from here(his version was just as much an abortion)

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Yes! Go forth, Affili! BRING US THE HEAD OF JIBBS!

  • Affili

    nelly was bad enough but come the fuck on!!!!!

  • Belize

    Rey Says:

    September 6th, 2006 at 3:05 pm
    Hey, I have a question for the non-retarded people that are on here:

    Since rap sucks so bad, what are you guys listening to now?

    ^Mef’s new CD and That new Black Chiney Mixtape…been on my reggae more than ever…

  • Affili

    I think rap would be better if rappers rapped for more than one album. Now they are more concerned with hawking us shitty shoes and/or clothes starting shitty labels and/or progessing their “movement”(whatever the fuck “movement” means)or doing whatever P. Jig is uo to these days

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    fernando

    it’s not 94 anymo..things have moved on…da problem isnt with rap as there’s lots of dope shit out there..da problem is with u and da fact dat u a bitter jaded fuck lamenting da music of yo youth

  • Affili

    and I cant forget the new hip-hop trend: STEROIDS

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    HAY DOODZ..FUCK TEH HIP HOP..LET’S GO JAM OUT AND PLAY AIR GUITAR 2 SUM FALL OUT BOY LOLZ

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Transi–

    The stuff that sucked in 94 doesn’t NOT suck in ’06 simply because it came out “back in da day”.

    Likewise, the stuff that sucks today sucks because it’s fucking terrible, not cuz it’s not 12 years old.

    If that’s too advanced for you have Meka explain it.

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    nnone has said da shit from da past sucked, rey

    it’s just if u too much of a fall out boy listening faggit who cant get ova da fact dat hip hop has moved on and, whisper it, dere’s still tons of dope shit bein made den u basically da worst kind of faggit ass nigga

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    No, asshole..

    I was gonna try and respond to what you’re saying, but I can’t express myself monosyllabically well enough to communicate with you.

    Lil’ Wayne fucking sucks, Transi.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Imagine this, Transi:

    The Miami Heat go thru the playoffs and beat the Mavs in 6 games to seemingly win the NBA championship, only the trophy is awarded not to them as the best team, but rather the Cleveland Cavaliers cuz “dat nigga LeBron can ball, son”

    Chew on that, you cousin-fucking imbecile.

  • Affili

    Im So tired of the lil wayne is the best shit. theres only so many ways to say you sold dope or yo “daddy” sold dope.
    He’s just jibbs with a thesaurus

  • Meka Soul

    >Since rap sucks so bad, what are you guys listening to now? Old stuff? More towards Pop/R&B? More towards Rock?>

    latin jazz is my new vice now.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    lol–For real, Meka?

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    Rey Says:

    September 6th, 2006 at 3:05 pm
    Hey, I have a question for the non-retarded people that are on here:

    Since rap sucks so bad, what are you guys listening to now? Old stuff? More towards Pop/R&B? More towards Rock?

    ^^^i’ma come clean… i listen for production, vocal tones (NO Making Of The Bands’ vocal trainer), and writing… with that said, i’ve been listening to:

    Sa-Ra: dope shit!

    Beyonce’s B’Day: (trying to figure out how Swizz got the most songs on that album??? He’s my nigga, so whatever)

    Justine Timberlake’s Futuresex/Lovesounds: No JC Chasez, the Timbaland records r CRAZY! Even Will.i.am(not hip-hop) comes off on that album… No Eric Sermon’s adlibs!

    Basically all new Tmbaland records: fuck the haters, if he can give “Danity Kane” a banger (“right now”), then he has my vote! He crushed Nelly “Byron Crawford’s FAVORITE Cracka lookalike” Furtados’ album (“Glow”, “Afraid”, “Maneater rmx ft Lil Wayne”, etc)

    Lil’ Wayne: The kid’s been doing his thing thing (Gillie needs to step up his game if he thinks Wayne’s falling off anytime soon)

    Gnarls Barkley: album was str8 dope, if u don’t think so- ur probably waiting for that “Gangsta Grillz Full Length LP” to drop…

    I’ve really been rocking old school music like Willie Hutch and shit…

    Oh and MAD 90′s hip-hop (Early Jay-Z, Nas, B.I.G., ‘Pac, Wu-Tang, early DJ Clue tapes, etc.)

    No Snap, Crack , Pop gets burn on my Ipod…

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    lol @ Affili–”He’s just jibbs with a thesaurus”

    Now you have to name an obscure wrestler or athlete!

    Koko B. Ware

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    # Rey Says:
    September 6th, 2006 at 3:27 pm

    No, asshole..

    I was gonna try and respond to what you’re saying, but I can’t express myself monosyllabically well enough to communicate with you.

    translation :

    i am a fat spic degenerate who would rather listen to mascara wearing rock band pussies in girls jeans and studded belts than hip hop because i’m an emotional old wreck struggling to deal with the loss of my youth and the girl who dumped me the night before my birthday who has just been sonned by you, great tran$i

    …………….

    yea, rey, weezy obviously isnt as good as diddy or kanye lmao..i dont think u actually heard any wayne since like 2003

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    when some “21st century” shit comes out (Gnarls Barkley), i’ll cop…

    even tho’ Cee-lo and that rodent nigga didn’t see a dime of my $$$, limewire bitchezzzzz…

  • Affili

    terry pendelton

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    Rey Says:

    September 6th, 2006 at 3:33 pm
    lol @ Affili–”He’s just jibbs with a thesaurus”

    Now you have to name an obscure wrestler or athlete!

    Koko B. Ware

    ^^^u making it gay yo!

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    I’m disappointed, Transi. I expected a better comeback from you.

    I’ve actually heard a lot of Lil’ Wayne over the last week or so (fucking hot 97), and he’s fuckin’ terrible.

  • Meka Soul

    >lol–For real, Meka?>

    as i type this, i’m listening to the latin jazz station that’s being streamed on itunes. jibbs ain’t got shit on tito puente, that’s for sure.

    lil wayne = koko b. ware with dreadlocks.

    jibbs =johnny b. badd.

    yung joc = corky from “life goes on.”

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    You a big Koko B Ware fan, Sonny?

  • Affili

    ima get killed for this but as ignorant as his music is plies go kinda hard(if you like crack rap no homo)

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    my comeback >>> your comeback and every OMG RAP SUX0RS LETS GO LISTEN 2 MUSIC MADE FOR PRE-PUBESCENT ROCK FANS WITH DYED FRINGES GUYZ comment by you on this blog

  • Fernando

    Damnit Transvestite,

    Even you have to admit the shit back in the day was much better than the shit that is out now.

    West Coast – Snoop, Dre, Mac Dre, Mac Mall, Pac, 40 Water, Ice Cube, Saafir, Ras Kass…WERE ALL IN THEIR PRIME IN THE MID 90′s

    Down South – Master P, Outkast, 8-Ball & Mjg, Devin, Scarface, UGK, Goodie Mob…..WERE ALL IN THEIR PRIME IN THE MID 90′s

    East Coast – Cant even talk about how much the east coast has fallen off the map. Its actually really sad.

    Do you understand my point?? Or are you gonna try and say that Gucci Mane is was sicker than Scarface.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    You’re reaching, Transi.

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    @ Affili- Plies is str8 Barsura!

    @ Rey- Koko Beware was my nig! but giving niggas the rules & shit, is gay- considering there are NO rules!

    John Starks and Dusty Rhodes

  • Affili

    Barsura?

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    then again..i bow down 2 rey and his vast superior knowledge on all things hip hop related since he’s someone who thinks eminem is a top 5 rapper of all time

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    You’re just bowing in the hopes that DZA or DJ N-Credible will sneak up behind you and make you a “real man” (homo greatly implied)

    Mr. Belvedere.

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    Barsura= spanish for GARBAGE!

  • Meka Soul

    i’ll give plies credit: he was the 1st rapper i know who shot at the concertgoers of his own show for thinking he was dope.

    boy, were they wrong.

    adam bomb, too cold scorpio, chris childs.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Okay transi, humor me:

    Who’s your top 5?

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    The DZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

  • Fernando

    Rap in 94-96>>>>>Todays shit

    alf

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Glacier, Mikey Whipwreck, Spud Webb

  • Meka Soul

    >You’re just bowing in the hopes that DZA or DJ N-Credible will sneak up behind you and make you a “real man”… >

    we call those “william regals.”

    no rick “the model” martel.

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    Transi top 5 (of all time):

    The Village People
    Captain & Tenille
    Barry Manilow
    Elton John
    Barbara Steisand

  • Affili

    I agree sonny but as horrible as it is in the true hip-hop sense that shit has its moments yo. Ms. pretty pussy come on man. its like passing a car wreck you cant help but to watch.

    Hey at least I was honest

  • INTERSCOPE JACKSON

    the rOOTS FLOPPED AGAIN, THANKS jay-z

    Hip-hop will have to settle for gold as the new platinum again. Until Jay-Z understands that HE is hurting hip-hop by his post as Def Jam President (I know he was trying to show that we don’t have enough black execs, but maybe LL Cool J was right when he said Jay-Z does a good job… of promoting Jay-Z. You can’t go three days without a Jay-Z headline, but Def Jam artist have upcoming albums and consistently have been underpromoted.)

    ^^^ real talk

  • Meka Soul

    “things fall apart” & “phrenology” were the only roots albums to do gold. everything else were simply “critically acclaimed.”

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    fernando..great..there was classic music made in the 90s..no fuckin’ shit, columbo

    perhaps if u faggits actually still listened 2 hip hop instead of watchin wwe and listenin 2 rock music made for homosexual 13 year olds u might know there’s still great music being made

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    @ Affili- at least u were honest, can’t front… but save that brand of “honesty” for ur immediate homies, potna!

  • INTERSCOPE JACKSON

    why the fuck did Jay-z & DEF JAM RELEASE Methodman & The Roots on the same day???? can sombody explain this

  • Affili

    meka the shooting incident is what hipped me to him.

    take off some real street shit im sorry

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    INTERSCOPE JACKSON Says:

    September 6th, 2006 at 3:54 pm
    why the fuck did Jay-z & DEF JAM RELEASE Methodman & The Roots on the same day???? can sombody explain this

    ^^^^
    to make it easier on the accountants on tax day!

  • Affili

    sonny you dont listen to any artists that you know you really dont like but the music is so horrible that its almost good.

    Fabo from D4L is the perfect example

    Its all free after all

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Motherfucker I DO listen to hip hop, and all I hear is this lowest common denominator shit all across the fucking boards. I’m not gonna sit there downloading mixtape tracks from “Young Obscure” all fuckin’ day so I can seem so much “smarter” than the rest of the General Rap Audience.

    Shit don’t matter what motherfucking coast it’s from, rap sucks nowadays and people are calling rap bullshit chocolate ice cream.

    So, Yung ButPlug, stop co-signing it cuz you KNOW shit is terrible. Just cuz you’re happy wallowing in drek doesn’t mean the rest of us are.

    *gets off soapbox*

    Ravishing Rick Rude

  • Belize

    lol @ transi not knowing his top 5

    lil wayne is dope as shit…nuff said

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    for a split second, and then i relize i’ve lost brain cells listening to that crap (plus time i’ll NEVER get back)…

    Bill Lambeer

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    # Rey Says:
    September 6th, 2006 at 3:49 pm

    Okay transi, humor me:

    Who’s your top 5?

    ^^^ i grew outta havin’ top 5 rappers when i wus about 16

    older rappers i like : scarface, kool g rap, ice cube, 2pac, biggie, ugk, 8ball & mjg, rakim, outkast, jay, e40

    newer/current rappers i like : z ro, beanie, weezy, jeezy, az, ghostface, t.i, the clipse, game, kanye (no fat stan), lupe, kiler mike

  • cacapoopoo

    to the one who refers 2 himself as transient u r a pice of shit i will poop on u and every other coon doin sn
    ap and crunk

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    How can you have that kinda list and still be such a dumb fuck? (no transi milonakis)

  • Meka Soul

    thought for the day: how sad is it that jimmy jones now outsells method man & the roots?

    that said, “a day in the fast life” > “game theory.”

  • Belize

    Meka – Jazz is raw as shit…u ever listen to that doo-wop tape that eazy mo bee and miles davis did? shit is fiahhhhh

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Dirt Angel?

    *checks skies for 4 Horseman of the apocalypse*

    Four Horseman, Disciples of Apocalypse

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    i’m da most savvy and sharp muhfucka in da blog comments game

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Transi, you’re the Forrest Gump of “da blog comments game”.

  • Belize

    “newer/current rappers i like : z ro, beanie, weezy, jeezy, az, ghostface, t.i, the clipse, game, kanye (no fat stan), lupe, kiler mike”

    AZ aint a new rapper Yung Butplg

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    Transi thinks it’s friday, that’s why he’s “freestyling’ his list… AZ in ur “new/current” rappers???

    AZ ain’t been current since “The Firm”

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    I hear Transi plays “Yazz Flute”

  • Belize

    ^haaaaa

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    Transi is a 14 yr old kid, and we don’t know it… well now we do!

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    az is current u dumb fuckin clowns..

    he had da “a.w.o.l” cd + da “serious” joint with nas last year and da new joints like “the format” + “vendetta” + da 50 dis joint + “the professional” dis year

    lol..i think u guys should stick with yo justin timberlake and fall out boy

  • Meka Soul

    >Meka – Jazz is raw as shit…u ever listen to that doo-wop tape that eazy mo bee and miles davis did? shit is fiahhhhh>

    that could have been better. i prefer the old soul of nina simone & billie holiday.

    “screamin’” jay hawkins > “idlewild”

    what in the blue hell is a “yazz flute?”

    … you know what? nevermind i asked.

  • LONZO

    Fuck it, since rap became garbage, I’ve been listenin to other shit, I don’t give a fuck if I get hated on cuz I’m high wen I listen to The Killers, Nirvana, Foo Fighters, and Rage Against the Machine! I know ima catch some hate but I don’t care…..
    Lil Wayne sucks. Period.
    And Clipse, Game and Shyne will make me buy rap cds again….
    The last one I bought was Killa Season, Dipset bitches.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    what in the blue hell is a “yazz flute?”
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Ever see Anchorman, Meka?

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    i love how u got these dudes who listen 2 justin and beyonce + fall ouyt boy and the killers tellin’ me im 14..

    lmao..irony

  • Belize

    Yung Butplug = Caushun (the gay rapper)

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Damm, Zo.. Cam?

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    belize = method man’s personal toilet

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Transi Milonakis–

    Do you just enjoy the sensation of an online foot up your ass? Cuz seriously? You’ve been getting whooped all day on here.

    (no homo on this whole comment)

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    yea, rey..i sure been gettin’ sunt by a bunch of out-of-touch faggits who listen 2 justin timberlake and fall out boy here today

  • Belize

    Billie Holiday is dope

    I be on Miles more though cuz I smoke and his shit be fukin with my head (no homo) kinda like “ur the man” from nas…smell me?

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    And what about your boy Lil’ Wayne doing some kinda weird rock/blue shit? I’ve seen that video a few times, but what the fuck is up with that?

    Bill Buckner

  • Belize

    Yung Butplg = rey’s lil bitch

  • Belize

    Lil wayne fuked up on that shooter’s video..he should have done sum 99 problem’s type of shit for that video

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    AZ been around since 94 and you’re calling him “newer/current”, but I’m out of touch cuz I listen to Fall Out Boy. Yeah nigga, Fall Out Boy.

    And when it comes out? I’m getting The Killers’ new album. Maybe I’ll post the lyrics to all their new songs on here, educate Yung ButPlug some.

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    dat wayne joint over da robin thicke sample was tight

    slight different between dat and emo-goth suicide girl alternative rock, fatty

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Belize Says:

    September 6th, 2006 at 4:20 pm

    Yung Butplg = rey’s lil bitch
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    In a good way or in a gay way?

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    Transi = Bol’s barber…

    That’s why they have beef, Bol is a bad tipper!

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    tHe tRaNsIeNt Says:

    September 6th, 2006 at 4:22 pm
    dat wayne joint over da robin thicke sample was tight

    ^^^^ur only good point, besides “bol u faggit ass nigga”

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    lol @ “Fatty”

  • Belize

    On the real..say RAKIM in concert yesturday for the 1st time

    Nigga is nice in concert even though there was alotof old heads there

    He still got it too…dropped a couple new joints that were dope as shit

  • Belize

    Kid Capri gets luv for holding down (i always thought he was a tad bit annoying but he killed the turntables)

    Ras Kass opened up and murdered it – im mad that he didnt perform “interview with a vampire”- his best track

    Still killed it though

  • Belize

    rey – both

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    Rakim concert??? i don’t know man… rather see T-Pain (i kid, i kid)

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    rey..az is STILL releasing music but i dont consider him quite on da level of da legends..so he belongs in my 2nd category of CURRENT rappers i like

    godamn..i know u a fuckin spic so u obviously arent da sharpest around hea but u sure are a mongoloid sumtimes

  • Meka Soul

    anybody else notice that too short’s “blow the whistle” did rhymefest numbers?

    meanwhile danity kane sold over 100,000 copies in its second week.

    and bob dy-lan’s crackety-crack ass [no avon barksdale in the prison shower] ethered the billboard charts all together.

    see? you don’t need to have radio play; a simple ipod commercial will suffice.

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    tHe tRaNsIeNt Says:

    September 6th, 2006 at 4:27 pm
    rey..az is STILL releasing music but i dont consider him quite on da level of da legends..so he belongs in my 2nd category of CURRENT rappers i like

    ^^^u might as well retire for today, ur “Black History”

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    belize u military faggit..where wus dat rakim concert?..is dat on his tour?

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    I’m puerto rican-cuban but I’m not practicing, so the “spic” commence just sorta roll right off, NIGGER!

    I did lol at “mongoloid”, tho’. That “word of the day” calendar is really working for you, huh?

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    tHe tRaNsIeNt Says:

    September 6th, 2006 at 4:29 pm
    belize u military faggit..where wus dat rakim concert?..is dat on his tour?

    ^^^^can’t beat’em, join’em!

  • Belize

    AZ bitch!

  • Belize

    and i aint talkin bout nas’s reject

  • Meka Soul

    the video for “shooter” made no sense. lil wayne tried to come across as an emo thug, and that’s just wrong on so many levels.

    fuck robin thicke’s kirk cameron-looking paleface ass [no rosie o'donnell].

    off subject: “nip/tuck” has sanaa lathan on it now. more than enough to keep me tuned in.

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    please explain why, sonny cheeba da justin timberlake fan

    az = not on da legend level of scarface, ‘cube, rakim, biggie, g rap, ugk

    so.. az who is STILL releasin music = current rapper alongside z ro, beanie, weezy, the clipse

    ..u sure are reachin u corny faggit ass nigga..lmao

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Danity Kane is almost at gold? Fuck. People are really buying that shit.

    (altho’ Aubrey could sooo get it)

  • Meka Soul

    i’d rather shoot t-pain in his throat.

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    da “shooter” video wus obviously based on the “walk this way” vid with him and thicke in different rooms like run dmc and aerosmith in that

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Fuckin’ Transi is like Scarface in the last scene, man. Fuckin’ riddled with bullets, about to die, and still talking shit.

    If I didn’t have so much to live for, I’d say that was almost inspiring. (no danny pintauro)

    Lil’ Wayne looks like Rowlf the Dog from the muppets with fucked up tattoos and dreads. (no disrespect, rowlf)

  • Belize

    Method Man comin out here next month

    and yes I am goin (iz u crazy???)

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    on the subject of az

    az’s shit in da past 2 years (the bootleg, “a.w.o.l” cd + da new joints dis year >>>>>> “street’s disciple” + those new nas joints like “my will”

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    Transi u’ll NEVER get it! it bcuz of people like U, that we’re having this arguement…

    When u clasify AZ as a “current rapper”- u’ve lost us… so when justifying Lil Waynes’ relevancy, leave AZ out of it! and ur “top 5″ is SO generic, u should be barred from hip-hop…

    i’m sure the “jersey house” niggaz will show u love!

    “u faggit ass nigga”
    ^only thing ur good 4!

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Alright kids and kiddettes, I’m outta here.

    Don’t hurt Transi too bad. We’ll need a tackling dummy tomorrow.

    That being said: Transi > DJ N-Credible.

    PEACE!

  • Belize

    Other notable concerts:
    Jedi Mind Tricks
    Zion 1

    Both of which I would go if it was free

  • Belize

    But if they charged a dollar for a ticket id pass….

  • Belize

    REY…
    XMEN still would ether transformers and thundercats

    just had to remind u

  • Daniel

    Mariah Carey and Fall Out Boy are paying Jay’s salary. That’s why Fall Out Boy can say they are going to collaborate with Jay.

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    “streets disciple” (the song)> anything AZ put out since “Doe or Die”

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Motherfucker. I hit refresh..

    X-Men would get fucking STOMPED by either crew!

    Jaga > Professor X.

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    Rey Says:

    September 6th, 2006 at 4:42 pm
    Motherfucker. I hit refresh..

    X-Men would get fucking STOMPED by either crew!

    ^^^this is juvenile, but X-Maen is WAYYYY iller, STOP IT REY!

  • Belize

    Storm would splash water on them robot hoes and make them all fukin rusty

    Wolverine would eat all them Thundercat bitches alive

    And if all fails Professor X would make em all think they were bitches

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    i may actually cop dat new meth cd since belize hasnt shut up about it

    REY THINKS EMINEM IS A TOP 5 RAPPER..LMAO

  • Belize

    It is childish but comeon…if were takin about current cartoons it would be corny but this the 80′s babies cartoons (no sickabitch)…shit is ill dun-dun

  • Belize

    tHe tRaNsIeNt Says:

    September 6th, 2006 at 4:45 pm
    i may actually cop dat new meth cd since belize hasnt shut up about it

    ^If u cop it and like it, ill stop fukin ur moms…thats my word dunny

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    Trasi = J Hood w/less creativity!

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    nd ur “top 5″ is SO generic, u should be barred from hip-hop…

    ^ i dont have a top 5 u stupid faggit..lmao..dats da point

    even yellow nigga and jeff mao agree that az’s recent output shit all over nas’ current output and dat az been kinda killin it on da low

    but, yea, im sure dey not as up on hip hop as sonny cheeba – resident comic book collecting justin timberlake fan

    lol..whut a joke..dis nigga like an even gayer version of rey

  • Belize

    I think cheeba is gettin under transi’s skin

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    cheeba a faggit ass hipster faggit

    look at dat faggit and rey flirtin up top of da page

    “you can borrow the car dad”

    lmao

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    “even yellow nigga and jeff mao agree that az’s recent output shit all over nas’ current output and dat az been kinda killin it on da low”

    ^^^so what??? Yn & Chairman Mao???

    i have my own opinions, thats what makes me an individual and u a 14yr old “can’t ban the snowman” clone…

    and Justin Timberlake’s beats (ala Timbaland) slay AZ’s beats (no Transi’s music taste) sorry to say guys…

    That’s why Hip-Hop sucks! the niggas who r actually GOOD (Dr. Dre, Timbaland, Jay-Z, Nas,etc) all don’t wanna do hip-hop anymore…

    They do it for the fact that they could be “#1″ by default since “yung butplugs” favorite mc’s are rocking…

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    i hate “hipsters”…

    u on the otherhand, r an illiterate degenerate, who probobaly hangs out on Ludlow- just so u can get to Burkina quick enough to get the lastest Snap,Crack,Pop garbage…

    Corny racist ass clown!

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    and Justin Timberlake’s beats (ala Timbaland) slay AZ’s beats (no Transi’s music taste) sorry to say guys…

    ^^^ i know u really outta touch and all, dawg, but u do know dat primo, heatmakers, alchemist, buckwild of DITC, salaam remi and just blaze haave been producing az’s recent shit, right?

    ..thought not..

    timbaland fell off..he’s fuckin’ trash now

  • Fernando

    Transient…Its Ok.

    You proved my point when you listed what is hot today “z ro, beanie, weezy, jeezy, az, ghostface, t.i, the clipse, game, kanye (no fat stan), lupe, kiler mike ”

    This is the biggest list of shitbag rappers ever compared to who you liked back in the day. Clipse have 1 good album. Kanye & Lupe are one giant BACKPACK filled with weak raps. Killer Mike fell off a cliff. TI is lame & so is his new album(old shit is aiight). Beenz is koo but his albums are mostly garbage. Ill co-sign with Ghost, (old AZ), Z-Ro.

    The Game????? C’mon mane, that cat is fucking PAINFUL…”Its not a shoe…..ITS MY SHOE!” \
    Game = African American Corky

  • Belize

    well if say so….

    Sonny>transi=yungbutplg

  • Fernando

    Timbo fell off right after he started…….Just like Pharrell

  • Fernando

    Screw this whole discussion. I need a nap & a sammich. Bol’s mom makes the greatest Turkey sammich, y’all should try it some day.

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    game’s cd wus hot..i’d admit he gets annoyin wit all da name-droppin’ and self mythology but dude can rap and the production he got on there wus nuts

    clipse have 1 great album, 1 good mixtape and 1 great mixtape (got it 4 cheap vol 2)

    beanie’s last cd was his best shit yet..that shit nearly bumped front-to-back..

    how did killer mike “fall off” when his first cd was average but everything he’s leaked from his new album/mixtape or appeared on like “kryptonite” has been fire?

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    listen up doggy… i’m personally cool w/niggaz like alchemist, buckwild, etc…

    But even THEY know, Timbaland has it in a HEADLOCK! even tho Tim has his man Danja on the assist, he’s killing it!

    a quote from my partner (no portia de rossi) from Jimmy Iovine to Dr. Dre (TRUE STORY) “Timbalands keeping the lights on over here, you guys (Pharrell, Dre, Swizz) better step up”

    That’s from the Boss of all Bosses!(well kinda- Doug Morris has that spot, but not for long)

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    nah..fernando..timbo wus ill..some of his shit has been insane da way its composed and layered but still managed to be accessible even tho it’s actually real complex..but he basically ran outta ideas

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    lmao @ dis pussy now tryna front dat he down wit alchemist

    fukk outta hea

  • Belize

    co-sign transi…that beans cd was his best cd to date

  • Belize

    u still a homo thug tho

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    i’ve known Al since 2000, i even introduced him to Jadakiss & Styles in 2000 @ Eminem’s album release party (Al was w/primo, for all u backpack stans)… shit i PERSONALLY brought Al to the studio in Yonkers to play “we gonn make it”, “gangster & a gentleman”, and “feel me” for my niggas (the LOX)

    ur just some know name loser, who can’t spell, or thinks it’s cool to mispell everything…

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    thanks, dawg..u still meth’s fluffer

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    …and ur homo thug!

  • tHe tRaNsIeNt

    SONNY CHEEBA Says:
    September 6th, 2006 at 5:28 pm

    i’ve known Al since 2000, i even introduced him to Jadakiss & Styles in 2000 @ Eminem’s album release party (Al was w/primo, for all u backpack stans)… shit i PERSONALLY brought Al to the studio in Yonkers to play “we gonn make it”, “gangster & a gentleman”, and “feel me” for my niggas (the LOX)

    ^^^ da stench of bullshit currently wafting thru the air at xxlmag.com was caused by this post by sonny

  • Belize

    Yeah well then here’s one more mef review for ya

    http://www.allhiphop.com/reviews/?ID=943

  • SONNY CHEEBA

    @ Transi… get a life, i need not freestyle my past…

    it’s shame ur such a loser that u couldn’t fathom anyone SLAUGHTERING u in a convo- could be somebody…

    what if i told u i knew scott storch and timbaland??? that would be TOO MUCH for ur tiny brain to compute…

    “…faggit ass nigga!”

  • Belize

    wow…this shit is startin to act like WWE

  • DJ Tigerlee

    Funny how Lloyd banks will sell double that when he drops and this idiot will make another blog about G-unit is done blah blah blah..in his last blog he said that 50 sold 5 million and it wasnt a success…bragged about Mobb not selling..but when The Roots don’t sell..he doesn’t know what to think because eveyone has low sales..hypocrite! People only say f-ck sales when it’s a group they like..but when it’s not..then they want to use it as proof they fell off..with that said..cop ‘Theory’…cuz groups like The Roots are running out of time

  • soopadoopa

    Yo i think Jayz is purposely tanking all the nigguz on Def Jam. Im pretty sure when that in the mid 90′s he felt like they was shittin on him or something. 10 yrs. later the niggaz ya boss. i would say thats poetic justice but i Lkie Wu Tang, them cats need 2 go indie, cuz Jay iz fucking that Label up. i not a roots fan so fuck em!!! haha can u say BRICK!!!

    100

  • New York Nigga

    FIRE GAY-Z

  • Dr. Colossus

    When did people forget how to make music? Now they just go down a checklist, Storch – check, Swizz – Check, Neptunes – Check, it has to be good. Naw it sucks becuase it’s just a bunch of songs collected on a CD with no theme to pull it together. Rappers, stop trying to make Ready to Die, figure out a new story damnit!!!!

  • eryurue

    >maybe it’s all the roots fault for >delivering commerically unviable >material and not garnering the >interest of the label…

    an okayplayer poster said this last week.

  • e

    61000 isn’t bad considering I didn’t see one video or hear a song at all. If they promoted it as heavily as a lcd rapper it would have gone plat.

    Rey Says:

    September 6th, 2006 at 3:05 pm
    Hey, I have a question for the non-retarded people that are on here:

    Since rap sucks so bad, what are you guys listening to now? Old stuff? More towards Pop/R&B? More towards Rock?
    ^^^^
    I don’t listen to current rock unless its The Strokes(no homo), Any pop or R&B if a girls with me, but mostly latin rap like Tego and Orishas

  • H-man

    Why did Jay-z release his artists on the same day??? Not like there’z not enough competition without competing against a label mate… Interscope haz got a marketing machine 4 a powerhouse…All it needz iz double D batteriez…The machine dont sleep

    Hollywood Hulk Hogan and The Ultimate Warrior

  • H-man

    Ill keep the lights on 4 ya…lolololol

  • wendys #1

    4 the love of god i dont see y dudes is giving Jay so much stress! i mean first of all i think he is doing a good job as president! dont forget artists like NeYo and Rhiannah have sold a major amount of records.

    Not only that you had Jeezy and Kanye both doing the numbers, and the fa ct that Rick Ross did do over a 100’000 in his first week of sales.

    Plus u still got future prospects like Nas and Fabolous still to comeout, so lay off dudes back! cuz he is doin a good job.

    And fuck what LL says any way, cuz i seen the numbers he does and he dont really push that much anyway! and how wack was the todd smith album? man that shit was garbage! LL should retire and go act or somthn cuz dudes last nice album was “Mama Said Knock You Out” and that was like when….1991! Dudes garbage. so leave it at that!

  • ETO

    I like Rey but Transi, ignorant troll that he is, is 100% on point here and murked Rey and Sonny Cheeba, who comes across as a herb who has no idea what he’s talking about most of the time, up and down the page

    I wish AZ and Primo would do more songs together because The Come Up and The Format are both bonkers

    ETO

  • http://www.wildstylefm.nl Freddy Freeloader

    *YAWN*
    Remember when record reviews and music journalism was actually about how the record sounds?

  • icon

    The Roots CD takes some getting used to, but it’s definitely hot…

  • face

    stans, why are you so mad?

  • Babyboy

    If u really luv hip hop u know ders, more dan aftermath, Mos def is comin at some niggas in hes knew album, Tal;ib kweli is comin with eardrum, probably the best 2 albums this year, but nobody is goin 2 buy dat, why?? i don’t know, but those 2 niggas r da truth, jigga is still dat nigga on da mike as long as he has a Big verse(just kiddin ahahah) but hip hop isn’t dead yet

  • http://www.soundclick.com/atrem God Himself

    Shady Guys — Industry Rule number4,080:Shady The Mixtape Album…
    your cure for the common rap album…hip hop…needs a change of heart! no Jayceon Taylor!

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  • marlon

    Rey Says:

    September 6th, 2006 at 3:05 pm
    Hey, I have a question for the non-retarded people that are on here:

    Since rap sucks so bad, what are you guys listening to now? Old stuff? More towards Pop/R&B? More towards Rock?

    There is still some decent stuff out. Little brother, Papoose, Rhymefest, the new Wu/J love. Can’t feel my face is tolerable, Howard Stern, and Soundtracks, soundtracks are hot, Snatch, The Lost boys, Scarface, anything Tarantino, Dead Presidents.

  • Robin Steele

    hold up….

    method man’s album came out?

  • http://www.buildthedream.org DGthegreat

    To Wendy #1:

    Please understand why Kanye, Rihanna, and Rick Ross (to a degree) sold records. Jay-Z signed them his self and they were promoted!

    You are smokin that kush if you think for one second that a) Fab is actually going to sell b) Nas is ever going to see the light of day in 2006 c) that Jay-Z’s new album hasn’t ALREADY been promoted more than damn near every Def Jam release since Late Registration and it doesn’t even have a title yet!!!

    Get past the fact that Jay-Z is probably your favorite rapper. Look at the man’s track record as an executive at the home of hip-hop. To take it further, look at what he has done for Lupe Fiasco’s album: NOTHING! Lupe could have easily been the star of 2006 (cult following, nice single, classic mixtapes, no cursing). Lupe should be a media darling and Jay-Z is the album’s executive producer! When the hell is it going to drop?!

    I love Jay-Z as a rapper. He is the G.O.A.T (due to consistency, album sells, the fact that Pac & B.I.G. died, his impact on the culture, etc.) but give me a break!

    If Jay-Z is the Mike Jordan of rap, then being President of Def Jam is like going to play baseball for two years. Yes it was his dream, but he’s so much better at rapping!

  • TheRealest

    my life doesn’t change one bit if the roots go 79x platinum or if they sell 2 records. Therefore, i really don’t give a fuck about record sales & as long as they keep makin music i like 2 listen 2, i still won’t give a fuck about record sales. Record sales only reflect what the white man chooses 2 listen 2. So i think we should all stop shittin our pants over some record sales (BOL!!!) because wasting time worrying about what the white man listens 2 is NOT hip-hop!!!

  • johnny rebel

    who gives a fuck about sells!!!!! it’s all about the music.

  • Three4

    True…it´s all about the music, sales don´t mean shit. One of th e most talented artists in Hip-Hop, IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE, doesn´t sell shit, for example…

  • TYRONECAPONE

    NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THE ROOTS! THAT’S JUST A FACT! THEY ARE NOT WACK BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION! NEITHER IS TALIB KWELI, MOS DEFF, PHAROH MONCH, LUBE FIASCO OR ANY OTHER BACKPACK/SOCIALLY AWARE RAPPER. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE AS CONSUMERS LIKE TO BE ENTERTAINED! WE LIKE HEARING ABOUT GUNS, DRUGS, WOMEN, PARTYING AND BEEF SHIT! THAT’S JUST THE WAY IT IS! IT’S CALLED ENTERTAINMENT! I DON’T LISTEN TO MUSIC TO BE EDUCATED. I ALEADY WENT TO COLLEGE FOR THAT SHIT! (I HAVE B.A. IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION) LAST BUT NOT LEAST: YOU ARE A G-UNIT HATER! HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT 61,000 FANS CAN’T BE WRONG? I CAN EASILY COUNTER THAT BY SAYING “HOW CAN 11 MILLION FANS BE WRONG ABOUT THE MASSACRE?”. THAT’S HOW MANY UNITS WORLDWIDE THAT 50 SOLD WORLDWIDE!

  • http://www.nso121.com Triple X

    the okayplayer boards, where I learned how to write. HA

    Can I just inform you all right now that the new Snoop album is R E T A R D E D. Between him and Game they will own the West.

    XXX

  • http://swollenmembers.com spleeph

    Ok, first off. The roots album is awsome and 10x better live if you geeks could afford a show! “or a cd for that matter” I BUY CDS! I may be alone here and do agree that I feel ripped when I buy a shitty album. I do love all hip hop in all its forms. I do not like where rap is going now with this retarded ass Gold chain music as i like to call it. I have been checking out Swollen Members and there album drops on the 12th of september and it is dope! “speaking of Ghostface”. The good shit doesnt sell to the masses because most you people are just flat out stupid! The proof is on this site! You call each other fags and what not? WTF is that shit? Are you 10 years old? Fo-real! people only want to hear about this far fetched idea none of them will ever have and the music doesnt inspire a damn thing! It promotes a horrible social idea and thats just wrong! When a 4year old boy is singing “Im in love with a stripper” and talking about Crunk juice, it does nothing to help our society. It brings us down to level of stupidity that the governement wants you to be in. Not caring about the real issues at hand. “like what really happened SEP 11TH” Or “Katrina” And when someone does decide to speak up abot the issues, they get arrested or gagged on the spot. IE. MOS DEF -VMA’s.”you can see the video on youtube/ mos def arrested” why dont you people wake up? Do you think it would be good for the roots to sell 2mill records? Then they end up like Black Eyed Peas! Fuck that! Keep Rocking The Shit ?uesto and Black Thought! It is loved!

    Check out swollenmembers.com

    Sorry so long!
    Spleeph

  • Babyboy

    i copped the cd yesterday and it is off da chain

  • dtm

    agreed on “BEP”, kanye too (though not as blatant). they went after the white kids and took our dollar base. sad but true. i think this cd was more abt jayz trying to get credibility from the heads than record sales anyway.

  • Bizz

    tyrone capone, you are a stupid mother fucker. if you label “good music” from “bad music” based on women and “beef shit”, then thats sad. people like you disgust me, and embarass society. what your trying to say is as long as there’s titties and j you’re pleased even if there’s no beat or flow. capone, go download a fifty instrumental and spit about your fake hood life and your handy dandy college degree.

    with this being said, “game theory” is a great album, and black thought has met any expectation i could have made.

  • fuck Roots

    f-u–c-k the roots album eminem is back cop that shit now!!!!!

  • http://babystrollers.webgarden.com/menu/baby-strollers/new-section/new-section/schwinn-stroller Schwinn Stroller

    @Martin – I very much see eye to eye with what you are saying here although one has to take into account all aspects of the argument. We can all be a bit responsible of adopting a rather narrow-minded view to these issues and for the most part, stepping back and observing the ‘bigger picture’ can almost always create helpful results.