“They Should’ve Never Gave You Niggas Corporate Cards”

Corporate card

I disappointedly watched some brainwashed Uncle Tom 80’s Babies in my posts blame their own generation for ruining Hip Hop. They truly believed that because the music now is arguably worse than ever (1997 anyone?), that’s its totally our fault. But us “crack babies” are only a product of our environment and upbringing. Yeah it’s all about the soundscan, sales and BDS now but who put this mentality in the 80’s Babies minds? Rap has been on a steady decline for 9 years now and I believe The Tunnel Generation (Puff, Irv, Jay, Dame, Stoute, Suge even Nas, etc) set that precedent. Their entrepreneurial spirit has single-handedly been a giant double-edged sword for the Hip Hop culture.

“I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars…They criticize me for it but they all yell ‘Holla’…if skills sold truth be told, I’d probably be lyrically Talib Kweli….truthfully I want to rhyme like Common Sense…but I sold 5 Mil….I haven’t been rhyming like Common Since!”-A ’69 Baby (no homo)


“Don’t worry if I write rhymes…I write checks!” –A 70’s Baby


Don’t get it twisted. The music The Tunnel Generation released while they were still hungry was undisputedly dope. Ready To Die, Reasonable Doubt, Illmatic, Life After Death, Pain Is Love It Was Written, Its Dark And Hell Is Hot plus a plethora of classic singles and collaborations were all timeless pieces of work. They were eager to prove themselves as bosses and executives like Lyor, Russell, Kevin Liles, Jimmy Iovine, Donnie Ienner and Clive Davis gave them a shot to succeed. Never before in rap did a group of new Hip Hop businessmen takeover the rap industry like that. Then by eliminating the old schoolers who had their foots on the 70’s Babies necks, the Tunnel Gen was able to get funding and start releasing artists themselves. No more did they have to answer to people who tried to hold them back; it was a beautiful thing. But it’s when the corporate cards came that all the problems started.

When The Tunnel Generation started up their own labels, they totally abandoned “real’” rap and proceeded to sell out the Hip Hop culture left and right. Roc-a-fella put a bunch of artists who were pretty much Jay and Dame’s “mans and em”, cleverly packed under the crystal lifestyle smoke and mirrors. With the exception of Beanie Sigel (they’re not getting credit for Kanye), the Roc never put out any credible artists. It was always the production mixed with the Jay mystique that carried that whole movement. None of the other artists stood the test of time or can even be used in the same sentence as the word ‘progressive’.

Irv Gotti jumped out the window completely when he started Murder Inc. The man who produced my favorite Jay-Z record ever and Ja Rule made a brand new chamber of falsetto love rap. It’s not like Mr. Lorenzo didn’t know real rap when he saw it (DMX, Jay-Z), he just understood how much he could make selling out crossing over. Whether that meant doing ecstasy-ish videos with tons of white girls, love songs about crying or getting his Danny Zuko on with Ashanti Newton-John, Irv was not going to leave a dollar on the table. I’m not even going to get into the rest of the roster: Black Child, Blackchild, the guy from the Outlawz, Vita, etc.Gotti milked Hip Hop for every dollar and left it high and dry.

They helped further institute the “sales and spins before quality” mentality into the impressionable minds of 80’s Babies everywhere. Kids in high school wanted to be the next Damon Dash instead of the next Rakim. And can you really blame them? That’s where the money is! Heck, I cannot lie; part of my entrepreneurial drive is due to the inspiration given to me by The Tunnel Generation. But all this money didn’t do anything for the advancement of Hip Hop music as a whole. If anything, it set the bar very low for us 80’s Babies. Plus the entrepreneurial spirit can inspire in other ways; ask 50 Cent.


“Niggas keep talking about me…keep calling me crazy…fuck them old school niggas…they stuck in the 80’s!” -Fif

“The kid keep a snub wit ‘em, good pair of gloves wit ‘em

Your first week ain’t right, they can’t fuck wit ‘em
Now if you don’t sell 5 mill, they had enough of ‘em
Let me find out Hip Hop’s turnin’ Republican” –An 80’s Baby


Long story short, 80’s Babies have a tough task at hand: cleaning up the mess the 70’s Baby Executives made between 1999 and 2004. So while you grumpy old men are living in the past hugging your De La Soul Is Dead cassettes, we 80’s Babies have to look to the future and rebuild this Hip Hop shit. Most of the real 80’s infants are waiting for their shot still in High School, college (Wayne ‘82!) or now getting their first real chance at stardom (Lupe ’82!). We got the King Of The South (T.I.P. ’80!), the worlds best basketball players (Wade ’82 and Lebron ‘84!), both of the baddestchicks in the game wearing the Roc chain and America’s next top mogul (Sick ’84!) on our team. Our future is looking bright and we have at least 8 more years to clean up these old schoolers mess. So sit back and watch us do us (pause!)…See you at the 80’s vs 70’s charity B-Ball game!

*Quote credit to my man Al Branch. He said it one night while we were out in Houston’s

  • Angry Bed Stuy 86 Baby

    Good blog as far as putting things into perspective

  • Sleep-G

    1st bitches!!! Chi-Town – south side

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    NEWSFLASH: Weezy F Baby is going on 27 years old.

    http://www.fultonsheriff.org/Jail/individual.asp?bookingnumber=0629395

  • http://xxlmag trouble

    RAP LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, UPS AND DOWN. BUT ITS TRU NOW WORSE THAN EVER. THE ROC REBUILT CAM CAREER HE A 70S BABY

  • Paychexx

    sick i agree.

  • DocZeus

    70s babies fed the 80s babies the crack milk they so desperately craved. The consumer in my eyes is just as responsbile as the pimp.

  • Tornado

    Finally after slacking in those past blogs you came thru (no homo) and put things into proper perpectives

  • chills

    yeah. you got to remember that the rappers that are on the commercial tip now are in their early 30′s or getting into their 30′s

  • yaboy

    On point sick.

  • http://www.myspace.com/princeunseen unseen

    80s OLD SCHOOLER unseen ….. I HAVE TO ROCK WITH THE 70S ON THIS ONE . I FEEL THE MOVEMENT OF THE 80S KIDs i think the skills are there but THERES ALOT OF HUSTLE BUT NO RUSSEL……..the godfather ( still nuber three that like 60s) WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS ALOT OF THE THEM HAVE THE MONEY, MEANS, DRIVE,connects and MEDIA BUT THERE NO RESULTS. 97-2006 almost a decade that is a long time. rap makes to much money.i mean puff was the youngest exc . irv and all them guys were young but the 80s south and west yeah not the east . 50 made a change in the game in zones like a.i and niggas in the 80s playing aba ball( they dont even ball no more.(lmao i should use that in a rap or something ) . like the 69 baby says
    ” you can bullshit with rap if you want”

  • http://breadandbutta.com SHAW

    84 babies killin shit.

  • http://www.believehype.blogspot.com/ Spoons

    i’ll co-sign that. 86′

  • http://www.myspace.com/hoodwidepromotions Hoodwide Promotions

    Sic you have never been more right. The game is a mess right now. It’s time to bring it back. Im glad you put this one out..
    100
    Vena

  • e

    Every thing you said was real talk but your not getting off the hook for not making any baseball refrences other 80s babies Albert Pujols 80, and Miguel Cabrera 83 (semi dissapointed 80s baby)

  • 5 STAR X-E-Q-SHUN

    nice insites

  • slap fire out a blog

    Best blog I have experienced so far, and im reppin 78

  • rizzop

    Good blog, best one yet. i happen to agree whole heartedly. Some of us had to come out the gheto though…..We just used all we had at the moment….

  • http://xxl 2liveanddieinGA

    the 80′s baby raps about himself the 70′s baby raps about himself and wordly issues step it up 80′s

  • http://www.dmcworld.com/technics2004/video/2004dj1-100k.wvx Fine Ass Tffany

    Great post DUDE!

  • Meka Soul

    now THAT’S what i’m talking about. there’s hope for the 80′s babies yet.

  • http://www.hiphopuncensored.com Sam Hustle

    Yo! fam I feel you it all makes since smoke and mirrors. Other people have a movement and want to use there creativity and knowledge towards this hip-hop music (NC, SC, Miami, & others)but I do have to say NC has it the mixture of flavors down there. Yo! Sickmore what up this ur fam MIlz aka Sam Hustle.

  • http://www.hitlistent.com PLOT

    TRUTH….trutru indeed

  • http://myspace.com/slumheroes1 sadiq waters

    getting better sick. interesting, a lot of good points made doggie. i’m repping for da 70s babies tho, where my afrocomb at?

  • http://www.thursdayplantation.blogspot.com lar

    this is the first post of yours that’s made any sense. congrats.

  • http://www.livewithpetefinch.com Pete Finch

    You are sick with it Sick. Love the truth telling with the optimistic, yet realistic outlook on our (80s babies) task at hand.

    We can do it. It just takes us accepting responsibility, being innovative and making it happen! The 70s cats ran with it, but the balls is being transferred to our court. We just have to ask ourselves if we want to play the game; what are we going to do on the court?; what role do we play? and can we finish in the 4th quarter….

    I don’t know about you, but I want the ball and I am not afraid to pass, shoot, dribble and even take a breather on the bench.

    I do know that we can make a difference and that we have a lot of ability through the hip hop culture to leave a lasting impression and make a world of difference, while inspiring many to do the same.

    Where there is the bling, there is also a brain and the will to make this world a better place, while uplifting the next man.

    Holla

  • crackis great!!

    this is the first good post you have ever written, and i ve reaad every one. Thank you for actually saying something real. you should stop the list you were writing and carry on with more stuff like this. And ignore bol, he is just a hater. If only you coul dget some o fthe other blog writers to write something profound, instead of trying to piss on the outkast legacy and hate.

  • INTERSCOPE JACKSON

    good stuff

  • http://www.urbanology101.com The Critic

    This guy is a jackass. For the record Lebron and Wade are not better than Kobe and Duncan. Last time I checked Kobe at the same age as Lebron had 1 ring and at the same age as Wade had three chips. Duncan has three chips as well. As for the classic albums, my challenge to sickamore is please name 10 classic hip-hop albums that the so called 80′s babies have put out. Here is a hint Lil Wayne has zero. One thing I will agree Beyonce is the baddest chick. Coming tommorow how you can tell a real 80′s baby. #1 to #20

  • LBDII

    Yea this blog was quite well it made sense.

  • http://myspace.com/djjaycee jaycee

    definitely your best blog…

  • BELIZE

    Yeah Good shit RASTA…82 Nucca!…Whats this 14/31? I almost thought u was gonna not make it…haaa

  • E man

    Im an 80s baby man we just rollin rollin system on blast just rollin foot on the gas rollin

  • http://www.myspace.com/younstaslim YougSatSlim

    Dat was real talk i mean dats how it is now me being a rapper i kno how it is u cant spit everything u want 2 or u can but its risky i reall liked dat blog doe holla ~1~
    -J-Slim,Phfatboy Records/Da Fam
    http://www.myspace.com/youngstaslim

  • Danja29

    damn. some 70s babies are gonna be mad. but yep, they gotta take at least PART of the blame… their late ’90s attitude raised the 80′s babies. just like i always say: this shit DID NOT happen overnight.

  • http://www.myspace.com/plussign2 mycomment

    You do realise that the state of music as a whole has been bitterly complained about by each generation that came after the next? The same complaints dudes are having right now about the state of hip hop is no different from the mid 90′s, cats were still complaining about hip hop way back then! Though I do agree with you on the entrepreneurial aspect of things and milking the culture for all it was worth..I still believe the 70′s babies should contribute to clean up their own mess. I mean its only right..

  • http://myspace.com/kingpaul06 King Paul
  • http://www.trendsettazinc.com DJ Main Event

    ahhhhh this was funny.

    any solutions/suggestions sick?

    myspace.com/djmainevent

  • I Am A Hater

    Typical 70′s and 80′s babies…..us 20′s babies will run the world again!

  • Gerba

    Hey Sick..Gerba here.

    Just to start off…your blogs have all been very thought provoking and original. Keep doing your thing.

    Here’s my perspective on the downfall of (mainstream)hip hop. I believe that hip hop, like most other forms of music, has been hindered by it’s own popularity. When I was in high school in the early 90′s, there were only a handfull of white kids who were really into hip hop and even fewer white girls. More than 10 years later, if you ask a white girl on the street what kind of music she listens to there is a good chance she listens to hip hop. Now, ask yourself, what do most girls love to do the most? Go out and dance. So as hip hop became more and more mainstream, it had to become more dancable to satisfy the club girls. What else is always on most women’s minds? Relationships. Love life. So, the ultimate combination for a hip hop track that women are going to love is going to be a danceable song about relationships. Back in the early 90′s, it was black kids and some white boys like me buying the hip hop records. White boys like myself would drive around the suburbs listening to 36 Chambers singing every lyric. It was a guy thing. The girls weren’t rapping along to Ice Cube’s “Steady Mobbin”. The fact is, women between 18 and 30 buy a lot of records. And they go to the clubs. And they have favorite songs. And most guys will go along with what a woman that they’re attracted to likes. I have never been dragged to an Nysnc concert, but I bet many guys have. Now, I can go put a Madvillian or Kool Keith track on, but Jessica from Murray Hill is going to be listening to J Timberlake “Sexy Back” or the new danceable dirty south track, and her stockbroker boyfriend Jeff who just got home from work at 9 PM isn’t going to complain. Sure, Jeff had the Tribe Called Quest records back in the day, but now he’s tired. He’s not going to scour myspace or itunes for some underground sensation. He’s going to take what’s handed to him. Personally, I believe Saigon may be commiting commercial suicide by releasing that first track. It’s lyrially phenomenal, but when Jessica, who has been watching Sai on Enterouge, downloads his first single, she’s gonna be really unhappy when she can’t dance to it. And that’s just where we’re at right now.

  • http://www.myspace.com/edword52 Eddie Fuentes

    WorD! Couldn’t have wrote it any better! My dude the industry is even more crazy in Los Angeles! From the Left to the Right side it’s all one love my dude! eDworD1

  • LBDII

    Im serious and Trap Muzic are examples of a 80′s baby classic.

  • http://www.urbanology101.com The Critic

    CRACKISGREAT TOOK MY IDEA, BUT I MUST SAY HE DID A GREAT JOB. HERE ARE SOME BONUS CUTS. 20 to be exact.

    1. Your idea of good reading material is the latest issue of DUB Magazine.

    2. You think the Smack DVD’s should be released in the movie theaters.

    3. You think Lil Wayne is actually a lyrcist

    4. You really believe a person from the Ghetto created Crack.

    5. You think Tony Montana was a real person.

    6. You actually believe that Camron is as ignorant as he makes himself out to be.

    7. This is how your son/daughter says the Alphabet. A-B-C-D-E-F-GGGGGGGG UNIT

    8. You think not going to University is making a political statment to Uncle Sam.

    9. You really believe that Outkast is the best hip-hop group ever.

    10. You have no idea who DJ Premier is, but dick ride all the rappers (Nas,Jay Z,Biggie) who he carried with his beats.

    11. You think Mike Jones can rap anything other than gifts.

    12. You have never heard a Native Tongues album.

    13. You really believe you are the next Bill Gates because you bootleg Cd’s.

    14. You use the word Hustle when writing your business plan.

    15. That is of course you know how to write.

    16. You really believe that Jay Z was the first to rap over the Ain’t No Nigga beat.

    17. You own anything by the DFB or D4L.

    18. You think DMX was correct in Belly by saying books can’t feed your children.

    19. You really believe Al Pacino is Cuban.

    20. You think Dwayne Wade or Lebron James are the modern day Jordan.

  • LBDII

    Oh and the Documentry hate to say it but its true.

  • http://www.myspace.com/daheala Da Heala

    After Watching the Backstage documentry…with all thoese def jam artits….i knew that hip-hop was about to end…the east coast died…then west coast took over wich hadnt been seen since pacs death and it was all done by Dr dre with the chronic….that was like a tribute to a great era….im a gold producer myself….and on the real…hip-hop died when there wasnt anything new to discover about it….but its nothing new..all black music has been exploited…name a genre and peep its history…..but i guess it has to go thru this cycle to allow the birth of a new genre..wich i personally am waiting for..but i fear that it wont be till another 20 years…i guess hip-hop has made history…and in its own way,spoke for the generation at hand…but whats next???….80′s and 90′s baby’s want money fam and all that…nothing new again…the only element missing though is the artistic creative aspec to what they doin…i guess ever since people saw that even Oprah could make money of white people(no offence i am half white)why cant we…..so basicly…Since hip-hop comes from us human behings,and that it took a life of its own,and that we are the body parts of this life form,its a sign contienceness,of awarness,like when u feel sick….we are now feeling the illness and seeking a cure….otherwise it might die..lol…so in my opinion,why let it suffer and let it ocupy all this space..when it could pass on and leave room for a newborn…na mean??

    “Peeped the weakness in the rap game and sewed it;Some say the game is all corrupted, fuck this shit”

    ’82

  • Bangaz22

    I definatly feel you on that, Sickamore. I was about to say the exact same thing. It really is ridiculous how old heads take credit for all the good but don’t want to own up to the bad shit they had influence in. Keep postin that real. And tell my man with the column who’s dissing Saigon (name not important enough to remember) cut that shit out. Saigon is one of the few MC’S out who is speaking about something of relevancy to black people. See, a positive dude, but he’s still not positive enough for the old heads. DAMN life as 80′s baby is hard. One

  • P

    +++

  • Belize

    Crtic..thats for 90′s babies

  • Belize

    Kanye west is a 80′s baby-classic album

  • SY Young

    well rumors are circulating.. that on lil waynes police report it says he was born in 1979. and it was taken from his id.. unless he has a fake id (why would he need one) dude has been lying about his age on some female ish.. not a good look.

  • http://www.dubcnn.comwww.streethop.com Greg/ YG Da Boss

    The streak is alive I didn’t think it would be possible but this boy keeps delivering in the clutch like Robert Horry with these blogs and like the people previously mentioned very impressive on this one ranks in top 3 so far this month lol at me keeping stats but on the real you making some valid points with a dose of great humor.

    BTW man when we gonna get your take on the West Coast Scene? I mean the collapse and now the effort to bounce back with all the new talent………

  • G Off

    Without the Roc, Kanye would have had a much much much harder time getting credibility with harder rap artists/ fans. The fact that he could wear the chain gave him a pass and he ran with it.

    An 80′s baby is someone who came up in the 80′s. You were in diapers. You are a 90′s baby. It’s not when you were born, but when you came up. Get it right.

  • Oshun

    I admit, I’m a grumpy old lady hugging my ‘Sex and Violence’ cassette tape! I’m a 70′s baby and proud of it! If you ask me, it’s those bumbling illiterate southern N’s who are poisoning hip hop. They must be stopped!

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Way to delete my comments.

    Emphasis on “baby”, eh sick?

  • http://www.sickamore.com Sickamore

    I had ether right back at ya Rey…..I had the war paint on! But the site crashed

  • Belize

    Wit the site crashing an all, is it safe to say that yall goin broke? Just wonderin…at least Sick got a real job…sucks for bol..i guess he gonna have to go back to being Larry B. Scotts’ stunt double

  • Insider 76 baby

    So true Trini, so true. Yer hit the nail on the head.

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    It’s all good, sick. Even 80s babies (8/1980–i just made the cut) get heated.

  • LBDII

    Belive Kayne isnt a 80′s baby he was born in 77 and shit Wayne isnt lying about his age people need to lay off of Wayne.

  • I Fux

    6/1980 my sister is an 85′ babt but she missed just about everything in the mid 90′s and the only reason she has any sense or history regarding rap or my shoe game or my gear but without having me she would have been lost, just for being born a couple years to late to catch all of MJ or Magic or Barry Sanders or Deion in there prime

  • I Fux

    ^ she is from 85′ I am from 80

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  • Belize

    ^this nigga got issues

  • suckamore

    waaaa saigon’s single aint going nowhere waaaaa don’t blame the grown folk for your lack of creativity. the 70s babies turned a lifestyle into a business model. Half the artists w/ Young in their names are over 21 anyway.

    go sign another tax write off

  • silva

    Did anyone notice in the ja/ashanti video, the scoreboard says THE INC vs DEF-SCAM..sneaky sneaky irv

  • pop a poppa

    damn Sickamore!!!
    this your best blog ever!

  • onTOPmuzik

    Wow, Sickamore u just articulated the problem with rap beautifully. It was the 70s babies (and ’69 baby) who fucked up hip-hop. Irv, Diddy (just watch his new video and u’ll understand y), Dame, and especially Jay all fuck up rap. I mean damn, that quote by Jay really summed up the reason y all these niggaz is hoes nowadays and are just in it for the cash. Jay knows he fucked it up, he even said how he created the make-a-club-banger-sell-a-mill standard (go check the fade to black dvd). Real niggas who can spit like Jada and Nas never really went pop and thats they’re broke compared to these new faggots (50, etc.) It makes it real hard for real niggas wit real lyrical skill like Joe Budden to go plat. Thanks a lot 70s babies. Fuckers…

  • http://myspace.com/djlino dj LINO

    add greatest dj to this list. 83 till infinity homey

  • http://myspace.com/dnero1 Dneroda1

    1/1985..thats wat the fuck i’m talkin bout..good shit

  • bottomlesspete

    what a copout. “i’m wack because jay-z/dmx/ja-rule were wack.” wow, that is hilarious. how come jay-z/dmx/ja-rule don’t sound like mc hammer/vanilla ice/fresh prince? they sold millions of records and made millions of dollars and were on the radio before jay-z/dmx/ja-rule so by your logic they should’ve sounded like them and been just as wack, right? there’s no excuse for young cats not to be creative with their music. they’ve got studios on their computers, access to millions of people/fans via myspace, and a bunch of technology that older cats never had.

    “a young child stares at a glowing screen transfixed by tales of violence
    his teenage father tells him that that’s life, not that Barney shit
    a purple dinosaur that speaks of love, a black man that speaks of blood
    which one is keeping it real, son?
    who manufactured your steel, son?”

  • gluvnast

    lol@ the 80′s babies jealousy…because it’s obviously just that…we got over 30 hiphoppers that’s worth over between 100 to 300 million (which is more than a quarter of a billion)…and THEY’RE to blame that you can fulfilled your dreams in this hiphop culture….

    the problem with y’all is that y’all are too consumed with the MUSICAL aspect, and call that a “culture”…when hiphop is life itself, and just like in life you deal with the good and the bad everyday….

    the ONLY fault that the old schoolers have is that y’all haven’t been taught, but at the same time y’all think y’all know it all already…how can y’all lead without direction??? it’s the reason why the guys over 30 are STILL dominating this culture, because just like busta & q-tip said, “y’all can’t hold the torch”

    y’all STILL on the nuts…why you think y’all waiting for the next nas album? or if jay-z coming back or not? or the high anticipation of busta’s shit? or fishscale? or the cuban linx II album? or ALLL of these highly anticipated albums by guys past the age of 30 or nearing it????

    who y’all got??? papoose? saigon??? that nigga still ain’t got a deal!!!

    why niggaz like snoop still rolling in dough??? ice cube being a living icon??? where are your current heros of rap???

    right now y’all need direction…y’all don’t even KNOW the corporate biz of this shit…y’all content with the mix-tape hustle…that’s pinching pennies!!

    yet, we’re to blame because we brought our culture to a billion dollar lifestyle worldwide…

    whut mess is there to clean up???? MAKE DOPE ALBUMS and be your OWN boss, stop being a slave wasting your advance away…and blame us for “influencing” y’all…

  • gluvnast

    another harsh reality you have to consider…the 80′s reign is going to be shorten because y’all never got hold of the torch until now and the 90′s kids are about to take over…

    but don’t blame the 70′s because y’all want to get hyphy and snap yo fingaz, and we’re weren’t the ones that killed the NY SOUND….that’s all on y’all…hate it or love…when we took control in the 90′s we had our differences, but we learned from it and made it POSSIBLE to do and be successful at ANYTHING in hiphop…we opened the doors for y’all to follow and y’all refused to take it…

    except for kanye, 50 cent, and T.I…..

    the saddest thing about it is that y’all are STILL trying to study how we did it during the silver age of hiphop and make generic carbon copies of our vibe back then…(LB’s minstrel show is a great example)….it’s sad y’all can’t make y’all OWN shit..and blame us because WE DID, and the pioneers never gave us help nor we were against BIGGER odds when you can congressional meeting speaking on whut they need to do about our culture…and we suceeded, y’all need to do the knowledge and stop being followers…and sickamore’s post is JUST that…and example of a follower mad that he followed us to whut hiphop is today…we got our due, we got our history archived and we got our icons…we have nothing to prove!!! stop trying to make another “midnite mauraders” or another fuckin’ “reasonable doubt” and do you!

  • Mr.Me

    Old school niggas will say anything to make themselves feel better because their beginning to realize that their played out. Its funny how so many of yall old niggas be tryin to take our style like its gonna help you wit the broads. 70′s babies = grumpy ol men. The only reason why them old school niggas is runnin rap is becuase they try to look like the young niggas by shavin all their facial hair(Hova,DMX,Nas..) and by dressing like kids (nigga put on a suit). And they think they releate to young niggas but we only like their beats (I dont care about wine, designer suits, and SLOW ass luxury vehicles). Old school niggas are stuck in the past. These niggas are in their mid 30′s jumpin around on stage like acrobats. Old school niggas are pathetic sometimes. Mad cause their time past an the young niggas are gettin it. Even in everyday life like at work old niggas be hatin because a young nigga got more than what they got. Good post Sick.

  • Young A. Simmons

    Back on form Sic, just when i thought you was slippin’
    You pre 85′ babies gonna have a short reign though, won’t be long till us 86 and beyond (89′) cats are runnin things, then you gon be the old school moaning bout the new breed.

  • http://myspace.com/cirespot Bowser da Boss

    Ok Sick, I’m feeling the way you put thing in a proper light on this blizzog. (’81 by the way) Puff and the rest of the Tunnel Gen are solely responsible for everyone trying to start thier own label, eatery, and liquor co. Why wouldnt we want to same?

    Zoot Rock Entertainment coming soon…….(see what I mean?)

    And CAN I LIVE is Jiggas most lyrical song mayne. I’ll argue that all day……..

  • allnice

    Whether young or old, you gotta do what is right for you even if niggaz don’t feel you. Sick, you’ll never be a mogul because that is not what you are about. Moguls don’t write hip hop blogs and worry about the state of hip hop. Them niggaz just make money. Thats really all they know how to do. You need to think of yourself as above that homey.

  • thoreauly77

    sweet duck on personal culpability sick amore! youre a fucking genius!

  • Curt Dog

    you have talented artist around you Sickamore, do something with them and you will make your mark on the real world

  • Nay Nimley

    This post makes a decent amount of sense. But 97 had ATLEAST 2 classic albums released, and both were double albums. So that’s 4, we haven’t had 4 great albums since 97, atleast by anyone from our generation or anyone with a necklace on instead of a backpack. Maybe us 80s babies (85 here) need to stop supporting, and making music MADE specifically for 90s babies (16 and under) and we might jus be fine. And we could also stop kissin 50s, 60s, and 70s babies asses. There are WAY too many cheifs, and NOT enuff Indians. Every pathetic waste of life down south nigga I hear jus so happens to own a record label, his own white tee line, a strip club & after hours spot. Hip Hop has turned republican LONG AGO, in a world where Young Jeezy (the undercover hip hop cop) and Rick Ross are higher priorities on a label list of things to do then a pure lyricist like Joe Budden is just a sign of the times. Mixtape DJ and their pathetic payola’s aren’t helping the cause either, I’m pretty sure you (Sickamore) kiss just as much ass as anyone in any of these posts or responses, (and there’s nuthin wrong with that . . . To an extent that is) I’m sure your (Sickamore) paycheck is a higher priority that finding the “savior of a genre”. We as blacks need to know what IS and ISN’T important to our children and whatever is left of our women. And what is not important is the latest “Gangsta Grillz”, (especially if its a rapper of Bun Bs age). Do we really need Gangsta Grillz anyway?? I don’t even read that idiots post. What is he Jewish?? Is that how he got his job, this is a damn shame. Every mixtape DJ meanwhile has a major record label deal, so nuthin is street anymore, they give them APBs and accept the wackest tracks from the wackest rappers. If hip hop is to be saved we must reavaluate what’s important. (No disrespect Mr DJ Drama. Just stating shit how I see it)

  • New York Nigga

    WAT DA FUK IZ UP WIT ALL THIS 80s baby shit man damn WHO CARES IF U WERE BORN IN DA 80s man IT STILL DONT MATTER HIP HOP WAZ IN ITS PRIME IN DA 90s man WIT PAC & BIGGIE NIGGA THINK DA 80s IZ REAL HIP HOP WHEN DA FACT OF DA MATTER IZ HIP HOP IZ NOT DEAD ITS A CULTURE DA ICE DA CARS IT ALL HIP HOP

  • http://www.rapmullet.com Big Chew

    finally, a decent write up.

  • nadiyah

    What I really hate is the fact that it’s known that it is hard for new artist to get in the game, whether u are a 70′s, 80′s, or 90′s baby. So why don’t the people who feel that “us” eighties babies(80)sould takeover and do our thing, make it somewhat easier at making that goal achievable. My thing with the mainstream industry is that they don’t give us upcoming artists a chance to show what we could really do. I always hear that demos are thrown away on a daily basis, I mean think about it, if I had bread to put my music out myself then I wouldn’t be looking for a deal. So why not take into consideration that this person has put money that they really don’t have, into an investment, then on top of that,time spent in the studio, which is no easy 1,2 in and out job,and for someone to not even listen to it and just throw it away. At the end of the day I see why now and Sick has made it clear why they do this, because they don’t want us to pick up the pieces that they dropped before they do. I am happy that I am signed to a independant label, so I don’t have to shop, or be rejected because they don’t see what I see, I am also grateful that my team is determined to win at all expense. And when I do kick the doors open I’m letting everybody deserving of it in, because at the end of the day when u take all the money away,SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE HAVE THE SAME THRIVE.
    p.s. so much more could be made.
    ONE LOVE
    DIYAH

  • PhillyBlack

    that was an interesting blog….definitely a good point from a historical perspective on “rap” music’s decline

  • DIYAH

    AND AS FOR THE RAP GAME ITSELF, RIGHT NOW IT IS BORING. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I ONLY LISTEN TO MUSIC IF IT CATCHES MY EAR. IF THE RAP GAME IS GOING TO GET IT’S FLAVOR BACK IT’S GOING TO NEED TO ADD SOME LAWRY’S(THE BEST SEASONING SALT). MAJORITY OF THE RAPPERS ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME STUFF THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT 5 YEARS AGO. PEOPLE HATING ON JAY, BUT THAT IS THE ONLY TIME RAP MUSIC BECOMES INTERESTING AND WORTH LISTENING TO, ASIDE FROM POSITIVE RAPPERS, AS WELL AS “REAL” GIFTED LYRICIST. THE ONLY REASON JAY PROBABLY AIN’T RETIRE YET, ASIDE FROM THINKING ILL LYRICS CONSTANTLY, IS BECAUSE IF HE DOES,HE MIGHT FEEL THAT RAP WILL DIE. ASIDE FROM LL COOL J, BUSTA RHYMES, JAY-Z, AND 50 CENT,WITH EXCEPTION TO A FEW MORE, THE REST OF THE RAPPERS DON’T CARE ABOUT HAVING LONG CAREERS. THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY, DO THEIR SHOWS, SELL WHATEVER TYPE OF RECORDS, AND THEN JUST SPLURGE ALL THEIR MONEY ON FRIVILOUS THINGS, AND FORGET ABOUT THEIR FANS UNTIL THEY NEED MORE MONEY. THANKS TO 50 CENTS, U CAN DROP A HOT VERSE ON A MIXTAPE, BE HEARD BY THE RIGHT PERSON, AND BE SIGNED IN LESS THAN 2 SECONDS NOW. THANKS TO JAY-Z FOR OPENING HIS MIND, GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN, AND MAKING ORDINARY HOOD DUDES BECOME MORE INTUNE WITH THEMSELVES’, AS WELL AS, BUSINESS SAVVY. I SAY IT LIKE THIS, THANK YOU TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO PAVED THE WAY FOR THE NEW INDUSTRY.
    P.S. NOT ON NO JOCKING TIP, BUT I ALWAYS THOUGHT SICKAMORE WAS AT LEAST 4 YEARS OLDER THAN ME, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN BUYING HIS CD’S FOR YEARS, AND TO GO ON MYSPACE AND FIND OUT THAT HE IS YOUNGER THAN MORE, AND AS SUCESSFUL AS HE IS JUST ASSURES ME THAT HARDWORK AND DEDICATION DEFINITELY PAY OFF, FOR SOME SOONER THAN OTHERS, BUT TIMELY. SO LETS NOT FORGET, AND NOT HATE, BUT PAY HOMAGE TO THE ONES THAT CAME BEFORE US, BECAUSE OUR CREATIVITY JUST EXTENDS FROM WHERE THEIR CREATIVE MINDS LEFT OFF, AND THE SAME FOR THEM.

    ONE LOVE
    DIYAH

  • http://myspace.com/spmusic Solid Projects

    I know some the executives discussed in the blog and as much as we want to blame them, lets be clear the power of media outlets like MTV and ClearChannel can’t be underestimated. Throw into the equation mass merchants such as Wal-Mart censoring albums and refusing to put product onto its shelves. The breakdown of “minor-league” labels such as Rawkus and the disappearance of college-radio combined to shut down the pipe-line of new talent and music to the masses. As much as we complain about the labels its really all linked together. Mass Merchands won’t buy records from distributors who relay their distaste to label executives. Radio won’t break new music and the baby majors don’t exist to offer an alternative. In the end the consumer and hip-hop fans suffer. With increasing amounts of stores cutting back on music on their racks its a stark future for independent artists who are trying to compete with major releases. The internet may offer the only hope for cats trying to make it out the jungle of copycat artists. We need more live shows and fans have to demand more diversity in their music. I hope the next generation of music executives understand the business model needs to change.

  • hog

    i’m a 90′s baby, what does that make me. Oh shit i’m the same as lil romeo :( Nah serious what other rappers came outta the 90′s. i guess they all start makin it big in 2010 +

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  • TIGERREDD

    I guess after all of those classics listed, 2pac never had a classic cd in your opinion. All his material was classics!!!!!!!! Thug Life BABY BABY!!!!!

  • begs no friends

    I cant wait until your bullshit first signing flops…another generic rnb singer, just what we need! way to go 80′s crack babies!!

  • Blak Water

    I wrote this for BOl’s blog, but it also has some prevelance here:

    The difference is those dudes were real music industry dudes. Puff, Dame, Irv, etc. went out and got real artists and worked real artists. These f-ing DJs turned A&Rs dont know what the fuck they’re doing.

    Irv-Ja, Dame-Jay, Puff-BIG…Sickamore-Saigon, Green Lantern-Uncle Murda, Kay Slay-Papoose…You do the math.

    Im an 84 nigga and I love this 80′s baby movement thats brewing, but these niggas dont have any real skills…Shout out to the 60′s and 70′s babies all day. Ya’ll taught and are still teaching me a lot.

  • http://www.sickamore.com Sickamore

    Blak Water Says:

    August 17th, 2006 at 12:07 pm

    Irv-Ja, Dame-Jay, Puff-BIG…Sickamore-Saigon, Green Lantern-Uncle Murda, Kay Slay-Papoose…You do the math

    I’d take Saigon or Pap over Ja anyday

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Neither Sai-gone nor Paprika will have the impact of Ja Rule.

    Put down the kool-aid, Sick, and really, really think about that one.

  • http://www.myspace.com/kracktheking KR

    Wow…how are people hating on this blog?

  • http://dallaspenn.com/weblog/?page_id=291 ShockWave

    nobody was there for you huh lil’ homey?

    I feel your pain that this Hip-Hop music has gone to trash, but where is your perspective on who runs this rap shit? the 70′s vs. 80′s baby civil war bullshit is more T.I. propaganda to make dumb niggas think that they big brothers don’t have no love for them.

    all the shit we had to go through with the police and now y’all think that shit is sweet by accident. yeah, work needs to be done and Hip-Hop needs to be chopped up from the inside out.

    if you 80′s babies want to help your big brothers get it right then let that come from your lips and not this bullshit vitriolic banter. Up to this point the only thing that cats with laptops have done is complain.

    get active and change your mans-n-them Saigon mySpace picture while you at it. that shit is not hardbody. that shit is homo.

  • Blak Water

    And I was comparing their first artists to these “new exectutive’s” first artist. Pap and Saigon both wont sell what Ja sold.

    Its MMMMUUUURRRRDDDAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

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    IF U DON’T LOVE MUSIC WHOLEHEARTEDLY, YOU CAN’T POSSIBLY GET THE FULL BENEFITS OF BEING AN ARTIST. I ALSO FEEL THAT YOU MUST BE VERY INTERESTING TO REALLY SELL NOWADAYS.

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