The Death of Hip-Hop

The thing you hear about so often these days is that New York hip-hop is being overtaken by various styles of regional hip-hop, especially southern rap. But the real story, and the one that people should be even more concerned with, is that hip-hop in general is beginning to decline in popularity.

For evidence of this trend, look no further than the top 10 of this week’s Billboard 200 albums chart, where there’s nary a hip-hop album to be found. Even the new Red Hot Chili Peppers album, which came in number one, doesn’t have much rappin’ on it.

It was only about two years ago when rappers briefly took over the entire top 10 of Billboard’s Hot 100 singles chart. Now rappers can’t outsell garbage like The Isley Brothers Featuring Ronald Isley (?) and the High School Musical soundtrack.

And lest you think this is some sort of temporary anomaly caused by the god-awful Gnarls Barkley and Mobb Deep albums, this has been going on all year, as pointed out recently by Stone from The Couch Sessions, and XXL’s own Elliott “Money Pants” Wilson.

Whether or not this continues to be the case remains to be seen, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it did. I think we can all agree that hip-hop has been on the decline creatively since the late 1990s. What we’re beginning to see now is the commercial aspect of it catch up with the art itself.

Put simply, people are beginning to grow tired of these rappers’ shit, and I can’t say that I blame them. As much as my livelihood, such as it is, relies on hip-hop remaining fairly popular, I’m not holding my breath for it to make any kind of comeback on a commercial level.

This kind of correction, as far as I’m concerned, has been long overdue.

  • xathug

    boy you write a lot of shit. i mean a lot of shit look how many entries u have

    • tony t

      hip hop wont ever die..jus cos charts aint bumpin out shit dont mean its dyin…if its in the charts it aint hip hop any how. underground is where its at…support em!

  • thatkidJR

    You couldn’t be more correct. You could try…but you would be unsuccessful.

  • busta rhymes

    Hi I’m white. So pardon the corny, dated phrase, but “It’s a wrap for rap.”

  • LoLo672

    I think hip-hop will never die, but what we do need in the game is real shit. Every cat out there don’t have money there trying to make money. Hip-Hop artist need to say that. Everybody don’t slang dope, don’t claim it if you ain’t about that. You have cats speakin on there cousins or brothers, and friends. Their’s a lot of cats speakin on somebody eles life. If you have a good or great imagination speak on it. You have alot of cats that lack thought. Stay up and remember P.E.A.C.E. POSITIVE-ENERGY-ALWAYS-CREATE-ELEVATION “ONE”

  • bol

    I am also white.

  • Casey

    lol at Bol

  • http://rockthedub.blogspot.com khal

    holla at white people. go make them buy more albums.

  • P-Matik

    I figured this would happen at some point. I also hoped that when it did happen, the creativity would return but that doesn’t seem like it would be the logical outcome.

    What do you think, Bol?

  • P-Matik

    >I think hip-hop will never die, but what we do need in the game is real shit.

    Every ghetto fool at this point thinks “real sh*t” involves drugs and guns even though the crack epidemic is over and crime is down all over the US.

    Hip-hop won’t die, it will just be another thing black folks started and will leave behind like blues and jazz.

  • http://www.crooked-soul.com Zilla

    A big problem is that most rap “artists” that come out now are like these poorly produced, milkdud-ass horror movies that come out every week, completely indistinguishable from each other, and make just enough money to break even. Why do movie studios keep putting out these forgettable, “Ring” rip offs? Because dumb-ass teens with disposable income will see them. Hip hop right now is the same thing–what’s the difference between Webbie, Yung Joc, Lil’ Scrappy, D4L, Mobb Deep, etc.? They are all disposable commodities to record labels who will trick 15 year olds into buying for 2 weeks. Don’t forget the ringtone either. Or the mixtape. Or the booty DVD. It’s an oversaturation of garbage all the time.

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >boy you write a lot of shit. i mean a lot of shit look how many entries u have

    The words tend to come more easily when you’re right.

    >Hip-hop won’t die, it will just be another thing black folks started and will leave behind like blues and jazz.

    In other words, it’s gonna die.

  • rellmo84

    Dam it seems like u write a buch of bullshit and then have a good blog every other week. But u are right, rap is on a decline.Like u sed i think the bizness aspect of rap has caught up with it.Rappers are more like ball players,there more concerned with fucking up a endorsment deal than making a good record.Its good that their more bizness minded,but shit has got very corny.Hip hop will never die but i dont know where its going.All the greats are about to hang it up.Outkast sed 3 more albums and their gone,Jay’s gone(i think),nas is leaving,snoop, ugk,common,AZ,guru,and every good rapper in between Are saying fuck it.They cant rap 4ever.Although i love the south and proud to see us blowin up,i dont see anybody that i could see being here 5 years from now from any coast.I bought KING but other than that every other cd i buy is a old one thats just to scratched up,like goodie mob or nas or gangstar.Excuse my long ass rant but yeah hip hop need to get it 2gether yall.

  • MosBang

    Check it Hip Hop ain’t dead, the blues aint dead, rock n’ roll ain’t dead, and jazz ain’t dead. They will never die!

    Just cause they ain’t popular with white people right now! Stop it!

    Each have orgins from black culture, of a particular generation, that had their peak of popularity among white people too. So just cause it ain’t as popular don’t mean shit to black people unless you are making a living off of black music.

  • http://www.mikenice.com/ Mike Nice

    “I think hip-hop will never die,”

    True.

    “This kind of correction, as far as I’m concerned, has been long overdue.”

    Also very true.

  • http://www.bookwormbrown.blogspot.com bookworm

    i’m stepping my rap game up and studying Chinese! 1.4 billion and chillin’.

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    ^Don’t the Chinese already listen to American rap (in English!) as it is?

  • Fuck ya

    white people could care less what rappers are talkn about…wether they really hustle or not…thats not the problem…the problem is rappers need “better music”…u notice most rappers 1st single sound like crap “lloyd banks-my house”….i mean come on nothing catches your ear

  • Black LONDON

    ^Don’t the Chinese already listen to American rap (in English!) as it is?

    YEAH HES NAME IS JIN (Once signed to Ruff Ryders)!!!

  • Danja29

    I posted a thread about this on a website, and people acted like I was crazy for sayin’ it. Good to see I ain’t. Am I the only one seein’ this shit gradually bein’ phased out of the mainstream? For a while there, hip-hop WAS the damn mainstream. But we are very, very far from 1998-99 and it’s showin’ more and more.

    There is no more Jay sellin’ 5 mil, Dre doin’ 6, Em doin’ 3, P doin’ 4, Juvenile doin’ 4, DMX doin’ 3, and shit like that. Platinum is a big deal that only few are acheiving. Gold has become a goal again, and even that is unattainable by people who everyone can identify (i.e. Missy, Lil’ Kim, Fat Joe).

    I could say it’s because trendy people moved on, but we know that’s not the truth. Niggas and the crackers who write their checks dropped the ball, and even they know it. Hip-hop got lazy… and so people got lazy and stopped goin’ to the stores. Now it comes down to whether or not hip-hop would like to stop bein’ comfortable.

  • Belize

    I miss hip-hop, she was a down ass bitch, now she poppin laffy taffy like its cool and sold her soul for 50 cents (pun intended)…hopefully she comes back to me….damn i misss that bitch

  • you’re stepdad

    it’s all ringtone beats now. fuck all this hyphy, crunk, snap shit. let’s begin the “attack the wack” movement. and for god’s sakes we need thos rap drum snares again, the fuck is going on…

  • http://www.fotolog.com/wastoids Motelsicks

    whatnot.. the king is dead, long live the king etc…

    i think the answer is less blunts dipped in honey and more burners…
    (http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=1170)

    …lamentations

  • http://xxlmag.com chris

    You know something, nothing has died lol, cause everyone likes different genres of music, so as long as it is that way, the genre itself is not dead cause just cause it aint popular on the media it dont mean shit! Go down to latin america and asia, in those countries they like both rock and hip hop.
    But as far as hip hop goes, i dont care if it dies anymore, im tired of todays rap, all of you are obligated to like what you see on the media cause you have nothin else good to listen too! Sluts, vilence, beef, and good times are hip hops lyirics, so overrated! Bring back 90s rap! 90% of todays rappers come from Biggy and Tupac and still no good as rapper has come forth with the real deal, or else these rappers comin out today would be sayin “may i have your order please”, lol. God have mercy, WE NEED A MUSIC REVOLUTION NOW!

  • http://www.myspace.com/lone_Nigerian lone Nigerian

    a lot of the lack of sales has come from downloading. Not that there wasn’t anybody downloading back in’99 but it definitely wasn’t as fervent as it is now.
    It’s not just hip hop, music itself is in decline. It’s almost common now for the top album in the country to have sold only around a little more than 100,000. Except for a few standouts like Mary J.(730,000 in the first week) and TI (500,000 in the first week) most people aren’t doing that well when they debut. Even if they do, their sales usually decline sharply after that.

  • Prodigy

    Of course hip-hops dying, considering the growing number of trash rappers. Plus R&B seems to be getting popular again.

  • Danja29

    CHRIS says:

    Sluts, vilence, beef, and good times are hip hops lyirics, so overrated! Bring back 90s rap! 90% of todays rappers come from Biggy and Tupac and still no good as rapper has come forth with the real deal, or else these rappers comin out today would be sayin “may i have your order please”, lol. God have mercy, WE NEED A MUSIC REVOLUTION NOW!

    *****We could never go back to that. And actually, hip-hop is pretty much the same subject-wise that it’s been since the mid-90′s.

    The only thing that needs to come back is the competitive nature artists used to have. I don’t think there are a bunch of rappers tryin’ to have the best album out, the best single out, the best collabs, etc. I think there are alot of artists who are just content to ride the wave and get lucky with a quick-buck hit.

    Which is why there are a bunch of quick-buck hits and no sales to match them. And I agree w/ the people who said downloading has hurt the sales… but even in that case, downloading hasn’t hurt the popularity. Popularity goes beyond sales, and I think the music itself hurt that.

  • M

    right. what are the figures for music sales in general lately? methinks music sales are dipping across the board. because i KNOW music sucks across the board. you can definitely say rap isn’t as good as it used to be anymore, but you’d better also damn sure concede that all genres of music are pretty shite right now. corporate labels are sucking music dry. besides, try telling kids in high school that rap is dying. most of us are just a little too late-twenties and bleary-eyed nostalgic to see behind our biases. your musical tastes form in high school. and to most high school kids, hiphop has never been more alive.

  • johnathan blaze

    bol, usually I love what you say, but I gotta respectfully disagree about that Gnarls Barkley shizz…I think it’s a fine piece of work with a whole lotta soul…yeah, it’s trendy, but shit like that deserves to be trendy, and hopefully it’s opening people up to different shit.

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >a lot of the lack of sales has come from downloading.

    >right. what are the figures for music sales in general lately? methinks music sales are dipping across the board.

    The problem is you people just aren’t smart.

    What does a sales decrease due to downloading have to do with hip-hop falling out of the top 10?

    Do you mean to suggest that downloading only affects hip-hop sales?

  • notsoserious

    I have to agree here….

    There is very few quality albums coming out nowdays, and all these commerical following teenagers reckon I don’t know shit about rap because I ain’t feeling the latest G-unit wack ass album. If I tell them it’s crap I get “oh but it’s gone platinum”. Since when did big sales mean good music? Marketing is king. The problem is they are pushing the generic rap 101, rather then someone willing to take a chance. In fact it’s not marketings fault – it’s ignorant teens who just buy whatever the latest TV ad says.

    Bring the back early 90′s.

  • Louloutte

    As a french girl, I’m really happy of what americans rappers give to us. Some stuffs are good and some others no; but i think hip-hop have never died. It still continues to make us think, cry, laugh and shake our ass; it’ll always be like that becuse hip-hop just can’t die.

  • M

    > The problem is you people just aren’t smart.

    > What does a sales decrease due to downloading have to do with hip-hop falling out of the top 10?

    actually, dink, i wasn’t addressing your top 10 topic. Just because we’re not talking strictly within the confines of the lil bullshit boxes you set up, doesn’t mean we’re not smart. i was simply saying what i said: that music across the board is dipping in sales.

    hip-hop may be inordinately dropping in a top 10 sense, but that has to do with many other factors beside a purported lack of interest from the public, one major one being the pressure on record labels to MAKE A TOP 10 HIT.

    If you really care about hiphop then you should be glad to get the fuck out of the top 10; the top 10 is the reason hip-hop got in this mess in the first place. maybe now we can take it back and do something meaningful with it again. go to the high schools and see what the kids are listening to. go across the world and see what kind of music the youth are making and living to. but your midwestern gin blossomed ass wouldn’t know anything about that. because you’re a bottom feeder in all this.

    And actually, now that you mention it, I would imagine that downloading does affect hip-hop more than other genres, being that most hip-hop fans are of the newer generation and are thus more internet-savvy than your average Trace Adkin fan.

  • J Ball

    If hip-hop does become less popular to the point where it’s not commercially viable that would be great. It means more artists would take chances creatively and not just put together a project for sales numbers.

  • milk&sugar

    were there any hip-hop albums released this week by major hip-hop artists? you have to put things in perspective. rock and pop music have had a couple of great weeks, in terms of sales, because highly-anticipated albums by major acts were released: rhcp (who haven’t released an album since 02 and who have a big fanbase), tool (who also have a rabid following and only release an album every few years), pearl jam, etc.

    so bol you might want to slow down on calling people out for not being smart. apparently, you based your whole theory on one week from the billboard top 200. the music industry, as you know, is volatile.
    shit, until this week, all the pundits had sounded the death knell for rock.

    that being said, rap does need to step it’s muthafuckin’ game up…i wouldn’t be surprised if it’s waning in popularity among the mainstream. whether or not that is the case can’t be judged from one week of the billboard top 200.

  • tC

    Hip Hop is dead..Tupac-Biggie-Big L-Big Pun-theres more but you get the point..theres only so many times you can remix an acapella

  • YuNg World

    True but Rap there haven’t been any good albums to come out since ghostface and TI

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >apparently, you based your whole theory on one week from the billboard top 200. the music industry, as you know, is volatile.

    Feel free to actually read the post.

    It won’t cost you anything, other than the amount of time it takes you to read it.

  • milk&sugar

    bol, i’m beginning to think it’s you who’s not very smart:

    1.the title of the post is “the death of hip-hop.”

    2.the premise (i.e. theory) of the post is, and i quote, “the real story, and the one that people should be even more concerned with, is that hip-hop in general is beginning to decline in popularity.”

    3.the only thing you use to back up your premise is “For evidence of this trend, look no further than the top 10 of this week’s Billboard 200 albums chart, where there’s nary a hip-hop album to be found.”

    so like i muthafuckin’ said: “apparently, you based your whole theory on one week from the billboard top 200.”

    don’t try to handle me my nig. i didn’t go to some shithole college in missouri. i went to one of the top schools in this country (not that it matters, i’m still broke as a fuck – but at least i get to read bullshit hip-hop blogs all day at work). at any rate, i think i know how to read (and comprehend, which is something different). dildo…

  • milk&sugar

    you go on to say “this has been going on all year, as pointed out recently by Stone from The Couch Sessions, and XXL’s own Elliott “Money Pants” Wilson.”

    elliot wilson’s post is also based on one week from billboard (via soundscan). to wit, “I decided to share with you my random thoughts about today’s SoundScan results for the week ending 4/9/06.”

    and stone cites clyde (who looked at one week) and then says he’s “pretty sure” about something he has no facts on: “Clyde over at Pro Hip Hop noted that this week’s Billboard top ten doesn’t feature any rap acts. I don’t have any facts on this, but I’m pretty sure that this might be the first time in say…10 years…that this has happened.”

    so again, you based the post off of one week (albeit with a little backing from another nigga who made a post looking at one week, and another nigga who doesn’t even know what the fuck he’s talking about).

  • Amier Starr

    For once I agree with you dude.

    BUT DON”T YOU EVER DISRESPECT THE ISLEY BROTHERS AGAIN!!!! Who else you gonna listen to when you wanna get yur Sunday morning hump on? Plus name another black group that has had hits in every decade since the damn 60′s.

    Yeah, but rap is out of control, and a little corny these days.

  • mathew

    Nas’ new joint is called,”Hip Hop is Dead…the N.” which is a relevant title for today. I just hope NAS comes correct on his LP this summer…I think we need The West and East back…The South will never be trusted to carry the hip hop torch again. They done f**ed it up. Outkast n Luda should move to New York, the South is embarassing.

  • http://www.myspace.com/lone_Nigerian lone Nigerian

    i was called “not smart” by bol.
    just made my day.
    i still stand by my statements.

    What does a sales decrease due to downloading have to do with hip-hop falling out of the top 10?
    ^^^^^
    how can you not realize that you just answered your own question.
    I’m hoping you were being rhetorical.

  • THA YOUNG NIGGA WIT GAME

    ON THE REAL EVERYONE GETS A CHANCE AND HIP HOP WAS ELAVATING FROM THE BEGINING.BUT NOW THE SOUTH HAS TV NOT ALL THE SALES AND THEY MADE IT COOL TO NOT BE AS CREATIVE AS THE EAST AND WEST.NELLY,CASH MONEY,AND NO LIMIT MADE IT TO WERE YOU DONT HAVE TO BE AS GOOD AS DEATH ROW & BAD BOY AND THE YOUNG GENERATION FELL FOR IT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT GROW UP IN THE REAL HIP HOP ERA.AND AS A RESULT A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK ITS COOL BUT IT DOES NOT LAST LONG FOR THESE ARTIST.HOWEVER THE MASS AUDIENCE STILL BUYS THE SUPER TIGHT DR DRE SHIT.SO ITS NOT HIP[ HOP IS DEAD ITS THAT NIGGAZ IS TRYING TO DO WHATS SIMPLE AND FIT IN AND THATS WERE THEY FUCK UP.SO IN THAT CASE AFTERMATH WILL REMAIN #1.

  • illmatic826

    “Pretty soon hip-hop wont be so nice/ No Ice Cube just Vanilla ice/ and you`ll sit there and Fuss/ but theres no one to blame but US!!/ ~~~~~Ice Cube (from the song us off the death certificate album)

    What more needs to be said? that was back in 91 when cube said that and the borther spoke the truth! Bottom line PPL are fuckin Tired of hearin bout kill a nigga, Fuck a Bitch , buy some rims seriously thats all everyone talks about either gettin money or tryin to get some money and the public is sick of that shit no one expresses thier outlooks and opinons on society and becuz of that we get the same ol bullshit!!!!

  • bob

    ah fuck you bol.

  • http://www.infinitehustleonline.com shabazzz

    rap ain’t dead. everybody just responding to movements. and ideal artists. you realize nobody bought t.i. shit back in 2001 now the nigga is making the same music from back then and niggas are paying attention. its a learning, growth and maturaion process. its what people believe. and nyc rap is down because there time is up. there is no market for them. rap is more universal and its a language now1

  • gerald

    Hey Shabbazz, get the fuck outta here with that nonsense. Why is it that obnoxious Southern rap fans always act like they’ve been discriminated against by NY, then turn around and brag about record sales. Sounds like an inferiority complex, if you ask me. If NY’s time is up, hip-hop’s time is up.

    Hells yeah hip-hop has fallen off. It has become a 21st Century minstrel show. Niggas can’t keep partying and wearing gold teeth and throwing money in people’s faces and uncle tomming forever. White kids will stop buying records, and the TIs will move on and probably start investing their money in indie rock. Hip-hop needs to get out of this criminal, get-rich-or-die trying mentality.

  • Lord Thanatos

    Know why hip hop is fucking wack right now? Because all of the artist’s that made the 90′s so hot are being held hostage by the labels.

    WHERE IS REDMANS ALBUM???
    WHY DONT YOU STILL NO THEAR WU ON HOT 97? WHY ARE BITCHES SLAPPING EACH OTHER ON THE RADIO? IS THAT HIP HOP?

    If I didn’t download songs, I would be forced to listen to the radio all day to hear new shit- oops, the same shit every 15 minutes. so I will download until the cows come home. If i want o buy your album, i will also- can’t beat crisp sounding drums and pianos.

    last question: WHEN FUCKING DOPE MC’S LIKE TALIB AND MOSDEFF AND THE ROOTS COME OUT WITH SHIT YA’LL FAGS DONT BUY IT???

    THATS WHY HIP HOP IS WACK. BUY THE GOOD SHIT OR ITS G-UNIT FOR 3 MORE YEARS.

    wait until they start fighting…lolool

    -Lord Thanatos

  • Livin Legend 85

    white….people…..everywhere….in my sleep…white people…in the news….white people….cornflakes..WHITE ?!?!? ahhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • rrrrrroman

    good, hip-hop needs a kick in the ass. make the scene more competitive and wack acts won’t get half a chance (if only it actually worked that way. whatever)

  • alleyeCNtower

    Bol… your point is valid. And maybe this will make the TEN MILLIONTH HUSTLER-THAT-JUST-RAPS-GOOD actually STOP RAPPING and become a REAL businessman. These fuckers are all killing hip hop cause ALMOST NOBODY IS COMING WITH ANYTHING FUCKING CREATIVE. It’s that simple.

    Every new idea gets jacked, raped, imitated and watered down so fast, you hate it. Snap music, crunk music, whisper rapping, any little trend that has come up has been sexually abused by these dickhead rappers and the culture is suffering a crisis of unprecedented proportions.

    Black music never dies, it just comes back as something different though… so don’t worry.

    see, the funny thing is, the answer is right above your noses…

    peace from the AllEyeCNTower… Toronto, WHAT!

  • THAEDGE

    Dudes B sick of hearing that same recycled shit: stuntin, blingin, grillz, spinnin rimz, etc…

    Add the fact that there R way 2 many trash rappers out there & the product sufferz.

    Hip hop needz 2 step up & deliver that hot shit by its heavyw8z (think OUTKAST, DR.DRE, etc…)

  • Blaq Thought

    What is the last album you bought and enjoyed the entire album? Not just 6 cuts and tolerated the other mediocere songs, I mean the entire Rap Album. I bought Fishscale, The Carter I, Slum Village Dirty District, Late Registration, 3-6 Mafia, Urban Legend & King and none of these albums were straight all the way through. Some have alot of filler songs that are a waste of the rapper’s time and my money. The last full listening album I bought is a toss up between Little Brother’s The Minstral Show and Jay z’s Blueprint album (not the Black album because it had alot of filler too). Even Talib, Common and the Roots are guilty of being lazy with their music quality. Very few people make lasting songs. Although 50 ain’t doing too much either, In the Club – Window Shopper- Pimp are lasting songs. Fat Joe manage to squeeze out one with Lean Back but the rest of the TS album was weak. The Game almost had a near classic album but music production choices and redundant lyrical style prevented that from happening. All I gotta say is does anyone care about what they do anymore or is it all about get paid? I think some of the southern acts get so much billing because it seems like they care about their shit. Even the dumb stuff has a following because it seems their listners care to buy it. NY don’t bring it back, just start caring about what you do!

  • yeahisaidit

    blaq thought^^^… then put some duckets down on lil’ kim’s “the naked truth”…yeah i said it! what?

  • yeahisaidit

    oh and p.s.—downloading is what’s majorly slowing down proper cd music sales, of all genres, (people always want to single out just hiphop, dayum)…that and the fact that today people are so into ‘tracks’ and not sitting still long enough to even pay attention to no long players from front ot back…don’t front, you can find good stuff out there, whatever it is you want, you just have to know what you’re looking for and where to find it…just like that good dope, yo!

  • 11KAP

    SOUNDS LIKE THE WRITER IS DIGGING HIS OWN GRAVE. OH WELL, TO EACH IS OWN. HIP HOP IS GETTING STALE BECAUSE IT’S GETTING BORING. AFTER YOU HAVE SAID ALL YOU CAN SAY AND KEEP SAYING IT OVER AND OVER, PEOPLE WANT YOU TO JUST SHUT UP, AND THAT’S WHERE HIP HOP IS RIGHT NOW.
    WE LIVE IN A NEW GENERATION OF PEOPLE WHO DON’T HAVE FUN. THEY ARE TOO SERIOUS TO LAUGH, SO THE MUSIC IS MISERABLE. WORD. LET’S BUG OUT AGAIN!

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  • http://aol.com Rey

    rap might be on a decline but the other 3 elements in Hip-Hop have always been underground. rap will eventually be like the blues and jazz in popularity. but as long as true Hip-Hop fans keep loving rap music it will never die.

  • http://aol.com R. Moreno

    Every rapper nowadays, it seems, is already rich before we even heard of him. So the every day man can’t relate to these guys. Everything in Hip-Hop is unattainable now.Everybody just wants to be like BIG or Jigga, rich drug dealers, instead of being themselves. And if they’re gonna emulate a rapper, why not Rakim,Chuck D or KRS-ONE.There’s a lot of complaints about how Hip-Hop is all the same now, but that’s how it’s always been in Hip-Hop.Early 80′s:10 minute long songs ,no hooks,break beats with hand claps,rappin’ about parties and girls.Early 90′s:timb boots,call and response hooks,more gun talk,a lot of horns,hard drums,and no fancy jewelry or cars.Late 90′s:expensive shit, more r&b hooks, everything was about who had more money and who can top each other.2000′s: Way more money talk,every rapper sells drugs all of a sudden,songs made for the radio,everything is about the club, or shooting someone.Ther’s always atrend.

  • NickB

    Enough man how long have I heard this damn thing, “Hip Hop Is Dead” Crap please shut up. Hip Hop ain’t dead and it never will die. I’m in Canada right now and all these kids black, white, mixed, chinese, indian, all across the board you see them in hip hop gear, the music is in every club up here they love it. And it’s like that all around the world and growing.

    Hip Hop is strong and will keep changing and evolving but will never die this is here to stay folks. The South is the New, East Coast of Hip Hop. Atlanta is the New, New York.

    Just ride on that.

  • Shaolin souldja

    Blaq thought i thought u had a point..then you said “window shopper” and some other 50cent shit was lasting music… i then went bak and analyzed the albums you went to buy- just shut up dunn.

    This BS HIP-POP that is on the radio isnt hip-hop.. i dont know what to say about it since i dont listen to it..im glad if what is out now dies cause i dont listen to that kind of music..the white man got people thinking this is what ALL hip hop listeners do..snap and pop, shuckin, jiving, and cooning all over.. not me doggie. i still got my daddy kane, wu, nas, az, old mobb, gangstarr all that MADD COLLECTIONS..!ill spin them shits till they spin no more! F THIS HIP-POP MUSIC!!!SNAP AND POP???!! who?? me????? never. NYC. peace to all those who love hard ass bars and bust your shit to the white meat beats.

  • Shaolin souldja

    oh yeah i like that “attack the wak” movement idea..lol.. peace to them south dudes who actually do the music…scarface, eightball, bun b, outkast, even luda n t.i, little brother, etc…. yall got bars..

  • Real Talk (Dirty South)

    I think Hip Hop is changin right now. I believe the west coast is gona come back along with the east. The south is dominating, but eventually nobody will dominate. Everyone will have voice.

  • B dizzle aka lil Columbia Tennessee

    Hip hop aint dead the south just runnin it and we aint gone let up notime soon.

  • manni

    D4L!!!………DEM FRANCHIZE BOYZ!!!……HYPHY!!!……CRUNK, SNAP,TAP DANCIN, SNAP CRACKLE AND POP SHIT!!!! I CANT TAKE THIS SHIT ANYMORE!!!(PUTS GUN TO HEAD AND PULLS THE TRIGGER) AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Whodat?!

    Peace.

    Cats keep droppin’ names like T.I., Luda, Lil’ Wayne, and Fat Joe like they bringin’ heat or somethin’ — all them niggas is wack, sun. Even that Little Brother shit is mad overrated.

    Hip hop is dying because you can be a rapper and have nothing to do with hip hop. The love is gone. Cats like DipSet and Rick Ross gettin’ money with no skills whatsoever. That’s to be expected though. Anything that involves big money will be pimped, exploited, and raped until it’s no longer profitable.

    If rap music’s popularity is fading, I just hope it fades a lot faster. Think about the days when it wasn’t popular, that’s when shit was most creative. Unless you was Run DMC, you wasn’t seeing money like that. Now any nigga with an MPC and a mic can get a deal. Fuck outta here…..

    Catch me in the cut with my old shit.

    Attack The Wack indeed…..

  • allwell

    fuck wat ya’ll saying rap still on lock niggas like hov and nas got dis shit even the game and t.i. hip hop ain’t dead muthafuckers just losing they love for it

  • 11kap

    That underground shit is thriving. give me 5 on it, son. The big 5 can’t compete with street credibility, plus mf’s tired of hearing different niggas say the same ol’ tired ass shit in rap. Y’all niggas need to stop rappin’ and start rhyming some substantial shit about today’s fuckin’ world.

  • 11kap

    Rap is dead as fuck, but Hip Hop will never die, because the shit is creative. Rap is some bullshit. Be original, niggas.

  • http://yahoo.com Monte

    This shit has happened before…late 80′s, early 90′s, late 90′s, now, but the truth is, is that Hip Hop moves on an forgets the past it’s not like we hearin’ Run DMC, Public Enemy beats or ryhmin’ or nuttin’ like that now a days cause Hip Hop just moves on to somethin’ different. (It evolves) Just like people got tired of all the flashin’ an “I got sumthin’ you don’t got” phase doesn’t mean that this wack ass Crunk, Hyphe, Snap pop music will get played out pretty soon. The reason the South is on top is because people wanted to hear something new, something away from the normal NYC rhetoric. They just got tired of the same recycled garbage. Look, I think rap has it’s phases we don’t have Jiggy Rap no more an we all ain’t speakin’ bout Malcolm X an spotin’ Africa perophenilia like we use to are we, nah. Is just, times change an people want something new an fresh an though the South may be a bunch of bull shit that’s just somethin new that people want to hear. Hip Hop is not dead we just need to wait for this phase in Hip Hop to be played out like everything else before it. Cause the reality is is that when the all this idiotic South shit is over “the cream always rises to the top”. Meaning that the truth will once again come back to the game. And then we will have to go through this cycle all over again. But also we need artists that will change the game on a supportive note people like NaS, DRE, Biggie, Pac, Too $hort etc. Because when people like that come around an shake things up it not only stimulates Hip Hop as a whole but also gives it the strentgh of long gevity.

  • http://yahoo.com Monte

    Excuse the damn typos.

  • Shakid19

    well if we are comparing hip-hop to record sells then it wouldnt just be the whites or any other race for that matter, its the new computer era, where nowadays you got people burnin and bootleggin cds which right away is almost half of the artist records sales right there, so its more then just the white people buyin the cd, and the other reason why people may say hip-hop is dead is because there are a lack of actual talented skillful mc’s today, i mean you have your little brother, or a mos def, but alot of people that really dont listen to rap consider them just underground because of their status in the game ya know, there are MANY lyrical kats around the world but its like certain labels are afraid of it because teens and young adults are more party-style then anything so if you have a catchy hook with a some what good beat then their gonna rock to it but thats all i gotta say though hopefully hip hop will reign again in the future

  • cassie b

    Hip Hop isn’t dead it’s just that people arent open to hear all the real mc’s that are out today. these record labels won’t let you. they have the pwer and the money behind it. This so-called Southern explsion needs to end some time. If the public doesn’t take a stand agianst the garbage that is out today then there will be more crappy artist like dem franchise boys ( a rapping, dancing boyband)and Ying Yang twins. If Pac and Biggie were alive today 99.9% of the so-called rappers would not be existance. I think these boys should sit down and let the real mc’s take their rightful place. Magazine’s like XXL should not even promte these people. They should be promoting the real shit. REAL is what Hip Hop is about and what it SHOULD ALWAYS BE!!!!!!

  • WITT

    ON SOME REAL SHIT U CAN GO ONLINE AND LISEN TO ANYTHING THAT COMES OUT BEFORE U PAY FOR IT, I THINK THAT GOT SOMTHING TO DO WITH IT.A FEW YEARS AGO U COULD’NT DO THAT SHIT AND NOW THAT RAP IS SO DUMBED DOWN, SKILLS DON’T COUNT MARKETING DO, AND THEY LOVE TO MARKET ANYTHING IGNORANT AND SOME OF THE MOST MUSIC COME FROM THE SOUTH. I MEAN U GOT NIGGAS WALKIN AROUND DOWN THAT BITCH THAT CAN’T READ IN 2006. IF A RAPPER GOES PLATINUM ITS BECAUSE WHITE PEOPLE ARE BUYING IT,

  • 11kap

    Long Live the Hip Hop/Reggae, the real shit. why do you think the Game brought that fiyahh back? “Nuff respect to de mon. That’s what we need, something that will bring us together.

  • Dr.Sperm

    Aha ha that’s so wack. You write a lot of shit. I like this type of phrase : “even white people don’t buy albums any more”. Aha haa too funny, cause all the black people i know are buying crappy shit like Cam’ron and his Dipgayset music or shit like that. On the contrary, all the white dudes i know are listenin to Jay Dilla, MF Doom, A.G, Ghostface or people like DJ Shadow. Well simply artists that means something artistically. Oh by the way, when you talk about wack shit, do you mean black rappers? Just to name a few, Young Joc, Rick Ross, Lil Jon, Nelly, Cassidy,Chingy, D4l, Diddy, Da Muzicianz…………………………………………………………………………………………………….and the list goes on and on and on….

  • HipHop4Eva

    Yo for all you haters out there wantin some real, lyrical shit check out Papoose! Dude is the real deal. Check out tracks like: Sharades, Monopoly, Hustle Hard, Law Library Parts 1,2, and 3, The Boyz In The Hood, Chess, Mixtape Murder, Alphabetical Slaughter…..and there is still many more hot joints from him. Pap is bringin N.Y. back!

    P.S. I’m White

  • BK4LIFE

    I don’t think hiphop will die any time soon. Because it has always been here in some shape or form, but mostly for the reason that too many young cats see it as the only way to whealth. Have you seen a smack DVD lately nigga’s rib are touching. For every Jay-z Their is one million Jaz-o’s. Oh yeah can it with the guns, drugs topic yall looking real foolish. Read a book Negro.

  • CaliSmoke

    wtf…mobb deeps album did not suck

  • jason

    “not even white kids are buying it” fuck you nigger you just lost another white customer.

  • HIP HOP FAN

    LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY HIP HOP RAP STILL ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR MUSIC FORMS BUT PEOPLE THAT USED TO BUY THIS SHIT NOW HAVE CD BURNERS AND I BET MORE THAN 90 PERCENT OF U HERE DONT BUY CD’S NO MORE THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT LISTEN TO HIP HOP ARE THE KIND TO RIP THESE CD’S LMAO THE KIND THAT BUY THE MUSICAL THE GNARL OTHER BS RED HOT CHILLI PEPPER ARE THE PUZZY MADE FOOLS THAT ARE LEGIT AND DONT STEAL LOL …. TRUTH IS PIRACY IS THE DEATH OF HIP HOP MUSIC FORM .. FACT IS HIP HOP AINT AS TRENDY AS IT WAS EARLIER 99 2000′S AND SO ON ITS BEEN FADING OUT NOT TO SAY IT WONT COME BACK BUT THOSE OF US THAT GREW UP LOVING HIP HOP DURING THOSE DAYZ ARE GROWING UP AND GROWING OUT OF THE PHASE AND THE NEW GENERATION IS GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. THE MAIN REASON FOR THE DECLINE IN SALES OF HIP HOP WITHOUT A DOUBT IS PIRACY AS U CAN BUY A BOOTLEG IN UR LOCAL GHETTO STREET SWAPMEET OR DO IT URSELF THIS WILL SOON BE THE DEATH OF ALL MUSIC FORMS LESS MONEY MADE LESS MUSIC VIDEOS LESS EXPOSURE THE END.

  • Hustle Hard

    Oh sorry. We’re too busy fighting in the “east VS south” war to be concerned about rescuing our favorite genre of music.

  • Chaz H.

    YOU MUFUCKAS WANNA KNOW THE SECRET TO THE ART OF HIP HOP?

    CONCEPTS, ORIGINAL ORIGINAL ORIGINAL FLOW, INTELLIGENCE, BEATS (NOT NO BULLSHIT) AND FUCKIN REAL LIFE.

    THANK YOU.

  • WVMMRH

    all my friends are suddenly listening to more rock than rap or hip hop

  • E.F. repp

    Fuck Tyler and I think Blaq Thought
    has a solid point . . . Put it this way yall . . . just listen to the classic shit until this “drought” is over . . . dont stress it.Kanye,Nas,Hova and maybe . . . but i doubt . . . Banks can make a spark that will make others step it up a bunch.

  • thamainfactor

    hip hop isn’t so much dying, it’s evolving, like evry other genre of music. but i do agree the real hip hop is dead… hip hops reign was late 80′s to early/mid 90′s. albums like ‘reasonable doubt’ by hova, ‘illmatic’ by nas, and ‘paid in full’ by eric b and rakim showed us what real hip hop is all about. those albums had it all. now we ain’t listenin 2 hip hop, we’re listening to pop shit which is so-called hip hop.

  • RazrV3

    I dont know the sales figures…but hip hop seems more or less an outlet for frustrated teenagers to obsess over.

    Im sure record labels are taking full advantage of young kids both white and black who take pride in not having a job, stealing and contributing nothing to society.

    Im sure hip hop will take a dramatic fall in the next 3 years, new genres are emerging and it’s inevitable for one genre to pass as a new one comes to light.

  • acluv23

    I got to agree…this pop,snap,whisper stuff is Crap! I just wish the SKILL would come back…you guys made some good points but i think this generation is getting introduced to the wrong interpretation of hip-hop..for GOD sake STOP that SOUTH CRAP!

  • big e

    wtf is up with saying even white ppl dont buy hip hop no more whats that suppose to mean bol uz lameee n hip hop aint dead n never will be rappers just need to step their game up and maybe stop talkin bout drugs n bitches…

  • http://GGFH.COM PENISPENIS FUCK FUCK

    rap isnt dead faggot

  • http://WWW.myspace.com/chicodadon Chico Da Don

    I mad at every one in this music industry right now, because it is not just lack of ceativnes but a lack of an education look at these bum ass niggas form the “Diirty Souf” As they put it. They really have no aspect of what is happening in reality. and most of all musis now a days make no freaking sense. me as a rapper and producer i know what real music is and i am happy to see niggas like jigga man and nas working together cause they can bring back what we have been missing sense the deaths of tupac, biggie, big L, and big Pun, there are only a few artist that can make that change in this world and i hope that they open their eyes and realize that shit. Like Papoose, jae millz, Lil wayne, T.I, And juelz Santana, they can make a difference along with some of the vets that are tryin to come back. Hip hop will never die

    Fight the for the power and live for the beat/ fuck all the beef/ keep ears to the street/

    cause hip hop is here to stay even if inhave to daie for that cause

  • http://xxlmag.com 703 Hater Killer

    (If hip hop is really dead)ONCE AGAIN, THE SOUTH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RAP GOING DOWNHILL !!! In other words hip hop isnt dead or dying. Its these damn pestimists who always think negative. Think positive, and the culture will never die !

  • carlos

    whats wrong with hip hop? the same thing that happened with jazz, soul, r&b, and house music – it was taken over by the man. you all know the deal; he seizes something, develops it, refines it, waters it down, and when it doesnt produce anymore, he discards it. its happening now and it will happen with anything we create. struggles become markets, thats what i say.

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  • NateD.C.

    Well shit, mo than year later and where hip-hop at now? “I don’t gotta rap, I can sell a mill sayin nothin on the track.” Well at least he aint tryna front like he actually got skill.

  • http://www.passivemode.net DJ Chop Chop

    I say the problem is lack of creativity also. All the songs that are out now are all club songs.. like hype songs.. nothing with meaning or real music. Now they trying to emulate rockers by “partying like a rockstar”. that’s junk music.. maybe cool for clubs but… not for radio and listening…
    that’s why i just screw n chop 80′s,90′s, and early 00′s stuff

  • A TOWN DOWN

    If New York can put the blame on themselves, If Cali can put the blame on themselves, The south should take some responsibitlity for Hip Hop’s suffering. Y’ll not that good seriously. I mean I fuck with some of ya’ll shit, but let’s be real. You can’t say that the south has nothing to do with hip hop’s dry state. I mean ya’ll saw ya’ll in the muthafuckin limelight right? If ya’ll in the limelight, shouldn’t ya’ll be takin some of the heat. Seriously think about this. I aint sayin hip hop is dead. Rap music is dead, but hop aint neva gonna die. I like what Nas is doin and the album is fire. Songs like Hip Hop is Dead, Can’t Forget About You, Hustlers, Still Dreamin and Play On Playa arer among my favorites. Those songs speak truth. Aand before you say that I’m hatin on the south, keep in mind, I live right here in the A. Atlanta GA. The so called hip hop mecca. I mean we do what we do, but we can’t say we runnin anything. Who we runnin wit. Field Mob?, Bubbasparx, Young Joc?, Young Dro. No my A town people. We just tryin to make music. Aint no one make hip hop music better than New York. Damn striaght I said it. I wish I could move up there man. Real talk. I was just up there the other day and shit is bananas over there. Hip Hop aint dead at all up there. Its more like on break. The excitment is comin back and New York gon take the crown once again. And I will be right there when they do. I aint dissin my city, but damn we some bitchesdown here. We talk about how the East has too many beefs. Niggas and bitches, We got plenty down here too. They just more hidden. People get shot more down here than up there anyway, so that’s out of the equation. Besides Ludacris, TI and Outkast, aint nobody really go platinum down here. Up there they got Jigga, Diddy and Nas just to name a few. And even the shit that don’t go platinum are still classics. Don’t hat on East just cuz they the east. I want them back and I can’t wait for they asses to come back to feed me some real shit. By the way 50 cents albums are very highly rated. he aint what mothalovas make him out to be. He a real nigga.

  • BIGNAT

    The music isn’t saying anything important or meaningful. In a parable hip-hop has gone from martial arts to T.V wrestling. The only people still into radio hip-hop are impressionable kids and ignorant adults.

  • Dj Castle

    Rap is DEAD, and thank god.Its time now to pave the way for something NEW like all the Techno genres that have been all but ignored by the mainstream. Rap is for people who dont really even like music that much, they just like all the flashy crap that is shoved into these disgusting videos. I would also wonder if Rap isnt somehow responsable for the decline in the IQ of the average american over the last decade.

  • Guy

    i used to be a hip hop juinkie. for me the mid to late 90′s was my golden age. i remember being the first kid on my block to have the newest beats out there. at the time i lived in a white neighborhood in the burbs so everyone was like “whats rap?”. i used to record music videos on muchmusic’s “rap city” and “Da mix” in order to discover the lesser known artists. i would spend a crapload of my weekly allowences just on imported cds that sold for double the price. It was sooo worth it back then.
    fast forward to 2000 and now downloading took all the fun out of buying cds. why spend $29.99 on an imported cd when you can download it for free? Mainstream overklill also killed my addiction for hip hop music. nowadays everything sounds un-original. the southern influnce left a bitter taste in my mouth. it sounds good at first, but its disposable. when aaliyah died, the music died for me as well.

    i have a new love. Electronic/trance/house or whatever you want to call it. theres a LOT and i mean a LOT of crap out there, but every now and then theres a diamond worth discovering. i used to hate electronic music but now its my savior. i dont think i can go back. Electronic music re kindled my flame for music.

  • iluvhiphopidgaf

    Hip hop isnt dead?

    soulja boy.

    enough said. it’s over.

    It has been ruined by producers and executives. Except it.

    Bump Underground. That’s all that is good/left.

  • anonymous

    Noiforoiufaslkdfj yo mo ho go sho lo fo bobobo bo bo bobo wakashifakulatodi. Nig Fewtons!

    I hate black people. I hate chinks, I hate you if your ancestors weren’t Aryan. I hate society. I hate hip-hop, pop, and you. Get a fucking identity, or steal ANOTHER with the next big cumfest of marketed music. YOU’RE ALL BEING SOLD-OUT!!!!!!!!!!! How do you idiots manange to breathe? Do black people/wiggers know the definition of sellout?

    • Anonymous

      Fortunately, they don’t! That way, they can stay the hell away from the good music that isn’t dominated by sellouts and markets.

  • ssl

    these fuckers corrupt and destroy everything they fucking touch. listen up next time u fuckers make something original and creative dont let cocksuckin corporate execs, tarnish and destroy that shit. even when hip hp glorified the violence at least it was lyrical.

  • Hacksaw

    Hip Hop had its proverbial brains blown clean out toward the end of ’96 when somebody took out the most prolific & thought provoking artist of the genre, Tupac, and then took out Big.
    Producers once created deep, complex beats with analog sound which gave it a rich feel, now they make pop beats for kids in digital (but plastic) format. Mid-90s was the apex of its creativity, and it’s just declined into freefall from then on…

  • The Dude

    Hip hop is doing just fine I think. It was never about popularity or success. It’s about the people, expression, and originality. It doesn’t matter if the most famous rappers aren’t lyrical enough or creative. They’re businessmen rapping for cash, not for the culture, so if they’re getting stale fuck it- that’s their problem. Plenty of rappers today are still creative and original, they’re just not in the spotlight.