The real reason the South is on top

First of all, I should start out by sending a big shout out to Mr. Len from the group Roosevelt Franklin, who showed up in the comments of my post yesterday about his free rap album Bare Food and offered what prominent hip-hop journalist Oliver Wang likes to refer to as “context.”

Thanks, Lenny.

I was a big fan of Company Flow as a child, and once reviewed a solo album (er, shameless repackaging of Funcrusher Plus) he did on my own site way back in its infancy. Never would I have guessed he would actually have the free time to comment on one of my posts.

I suppose that’s the magic of the Internet.

Moving on, a question was recently put forth by one of my esteemed colleagues as to why shitty southern rap – crap hop, if you will – is currently dominating other forms of hip-hop commercially. It was suggested this might have something to do with unity between southern artists.

You see, a southern rapper, especially Bun B, will show up in a video for one of his fellow southern rappers. This shows that Bun B believes in his fellow crappers, and in turn causes today’s youth to go out and buy these albums. Because young people – the MySpace Generation, as scholars are calling them – have a keen sense of social connections.

New York rappers, meanwhile, do nothing but argue back and forth with one another as if they were a bunch of women. If I wanted to see dumb women argue all day, I’d work more hours at my low-paying job. Some of the girls there are rather attractive, and one has ridonkulously large boobs. And almost all of them happen to be in that perfect age range.

This seems a plausible enough theory, but I’d hasten to add that nothing goes on in hip-hop these days without Jimmy “Double Fantasy” Iovine – the real President of Def Jam – signing off on it. Southern hip-hop is on top right now primarily because the tall Israelis that run hip-hop put it there.

Think about it: Mike Jones rap, though it had been around since the mid ’60s, was just beginning to become a commercial force in early 2005. The Academy Award-winning film Hustle & Flow was in theaters no more than 5 months later. Common sense should tell us that the production cycle for the average Hollywood film is about 3 years.

Could it be that Mike Jones rap was part of some corporate marketing plan as early as 2001? SquareEnix’s incredible Final Fantasy XII has been in production since I was in the 11th grade. These things don’t just happen.

But that was last year. This year’s proverbial new ska is snap music, led by Dem Franchize Boyz, whose debut album We Got Our Own Thing is currently burning up the chats. Lo and behold, I go to the movie theater the other day to see Dave Chappelle’s Black Party, and damnit if there wasn’t a trailer for some Atlanta-based “gritty urban drama.”

I suppose that was just a coincidence.

  • Jade Star

    While there is some truth into what you are saying as far as the quality of southern rap and rap overall, I think that you are reading into this a little too much. It is merely a fad. Music is an ever changing trend that conforms to the changing times. Yes, the industry has a lot to do with the influence as to what gets radio play and video runs and such but it is up to the masses to decide that they like the music based on its merit or the fact that they get innundated with it from radio rotation 100 times a day. First of all the MySpace generation doesn’t remember what real Hip Hop was because they didn’t grow up listening to NWA, Public Enemy, Arrested Development, Too Short, Big Daddy Kane and the like of legends, movers and shakers. It’s all about sampling beats and catchy hooks and no context or substance. Secondly when the masses of White, Asian, Hispanic and Black kids who buy these albums really learn where Hip Hop came from and they gain an understanding of the music maybe then we can make these so-called artists, franchises, sets, clicks, squads, and familias step their game up make some lyrically sound, and sensical music and stop trying to make a dollar by putting crap in our ears and claiming it to be Hip Hop.

  • Torre

    With a lil understanding of big business, it doesn’t surprise that something like a planned Southern invasion controlled by corporations is in existence. Think about it…the music scene went dead with NY leading the way. Not too much was coming from anywhere. The South always showed love to their artists, so there was always an untapped market down there. If you can create a fan base independently, with a corporation backing you the numbers should always increase. So yes I can see some sort of corporate influence in the hip hop world. The general public is stupid. With enough hype and energy you can sell anything. It doesn’t matter if it’s a cereal or a Young Jeezy album. In our case it’s a Young Jeezy album, and this nothing against Jeezy. I happen to enjoy his music.

    Another thing is that with the South being so independent, they were able to develop that business sense that a lot of New York rappers TALK about. They know what it is to go out on the road and do the promotion their self. They know how to work the mom and pop stores. They know how to get in the college market. And most of all, they understand that it pays more to sell music than just a gangster lifestyle.

  • http://eastcoastcriticsarebiased.blogspot.com Phil

    Is other rap not shitty now? So The Franchise Boys, D4L, and other kiddie groups in the South have found a way to be more profitable than shitty rap from the East Coast (i.e. your favorite Dipset weed carriers).

    But don’t get it twisted… The South is not on top simply for the fact that all Hip-Hop is sub-par right now. Don’t generalize an entire movement on what teenage kids are listening to right now.

    The South is on top because of when I WAS A TEENAGER coming up listening to Outkast, Goodie Mob, that Old School Master P, UGK, Eightball and MJG, Pastor Troy and others who tried to tell a story from a Southern perspective.

    Torre is too correct about bringing up the independent aspect, because it is nothing new; it has been ingrained since the Geto Boys on Rap-A-Lot. The independent concept has always helped Southern artists feel more of a connection with their fans.

    It’s insulting for me to hear anyone believe that Southern Hip-Hop is on top because of a simple catchphrase such as “Lean Wit It…” It insults me by saying that I’m dumb enough to believe it is true Hip-Hop.

    What I do know, is that the Southern Hip-Hop I grew up listening to was more than Hip-Hop; it was another perspective told from a different culture, however shitty one wants to view it.

    I’ve done quite well coming up Down South, especially in ATL, as have so many of my brothers and sisters. The Hip-Hop we grew up listening to, set the stage for this movement; not the shit-hop (which the artists themselves don’t even take as seriously as the haters who hate on them; they know it’s just club music which is what Hip-Hop has turned into ever since Jigga’s “Big Pimpin’” days).

    So, Southerners make better beats for the club and therefore that’s why the South has finally made it in this club-Hip-Hop era when no one gave two bits of a shit about my region when we were putting out realer than real, metaphorical, truly lyrical shit on wax.

    Andre 3000; most profound MC ever. In other words, generalizations are bad, specifics such as “D4L” sucks, are more than cool. A better example of specifics over generalizations is that Bol halfway enjoyed Bun B’s favorite “crapper” Slim Thug’s album… Peace…

  • http://source one

    finaly somebody has written a article with true statements.it’s about time.
    crap hop is the perfect word for it.
    lets bring back thre music
    cali love

  • http://n/a KOOLVE

    I HUSTLED IN ALL FOUR CORNERS BUT I LOVE TO HUSTLE IN THE SOUTH. ONE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE IM FROM. NOW DONT GET ME WRONG, I LISTEN TO SNOOP AND MAC, BUSTA AND BIGGIE, BUBBA AND PAUL WALL AND A NUMBER OF OTHERS,ALL IN ALL IT IS JUST HOW I FEEL. WHEN IM IN PIMP MODE IM ON THAT P.I.M.P; WHEN I FEEL LIKE BREAKIN MY FUCKING NECK, IM ON THAT BUSTA, WHEN ITS A MUTHAFUCKIN G THANG IM ON THAT DRE, NIGGA, AND WHEN I FEEL LIKE MUTHAFUCKIN WHISPERING IM ON THAT YING YANG. LIKE JADE STAR SAID:YOU ALL ARE READING INTO THIS A LITTLE TOO MUCH. SAVE THAT SHIT FOR THESE MUTHAFUCKERS WHO TRYING TO RUN THIS COUNTRY. FEELS LIKE THEY GOT IT SOWED UP TRYING TO SEPARATE US.

  • BIG LITO

    MAN YAW HATIN ASS MUTHAFUCKAS! THEM NIGGAS BEEN ON FIRE IN THE SOUTH. IM FROM THE MIDWEST, IF THE MUSIC IS GGOD I LISTEN. NEW YORK RAPPERS ARE SOME FANTASY RAPPIN ASS NIGGAS. THEM BOYS GOT SOUL IN THE SOUTH. GET YA WEIGHT UP! IM TIRED OF YAW TALKIN DOWN ON NIGGAS THAT ARE BLESSED WIT TALENT. NOT THEM STUDIO ASS HIP HOP MUTHA FUCKAS. FUCK HIP HOP. I WAS RAISED ON RAP! BITCHES!!!!!!!!

  • http://source one

    big lito ur a fuck’n fool fuck hip hop
    naw nigga fuck u how could u turn ur back on ur own culture.u might as well be a white boy.u make black folks sound stupid.if u dont have anything inteligent to say then keep ur mouth closed.thats the reason music is so messed up people that dont even respect
    thier own heritage.dont get me wrong i love cars and wealth but theres more things in life besides money.rap music was created by white corporations for the masses hihop was originated by us black people so how could ur dumb ass
    be aginst that.turn off that ignorant ass nelly cd and step into reality.
    u fuck’n uncle tom ass house nigga.
    dont turn ur back on ur own people.think before u talk it helps…
    raised on rap!!thats the problem

  • adam

    WTF Whats wrong wid bein white eminem practically saved this business when no hot shit was cumin out

  • http://source.com one

    man i’m sick of white people hang’n all thier hopes on eminem thats thier one.the great white hope.em is enough and paul wall’s ignorant ass man fuck him. it’s bad enough that our own black emcee’s are sending negative messeges to the inner city children. we dont need no honkies fuck’n up hiphop aswell.thats whats wrong with being white.
    revolution is coming…………

  • 4 real

    The south does well because there are allot of southern kids calling into local radio stations requesting the music. Their also calling into the television shows to play the videos. The music scene isn’t dead in New York. Beef isn’t really a problem it’s a response to poor record sales. There are just more kids through out the south supporting the artist they identify with. The white kids here the music see the videos and spend their parents’ money on the merchandise.

  • Joe Black

    Mike Jones has been marketing himself since he came first came out years ago. That is why the south will be on top for a long time. We down here bring the independent mindstate to the mainstream. I started with J Prince and continues now. What NY niggas need to do is do what they do and promote better down here where the money at.

  • Therapist

    some of you niggas sound stupid as fuck…

    niggas is blatantly hating on everything in the south.. the animosity in your blood is so obvious..

    One thing about down south niggas, we don’t hate… WE want to see New York come back just as much as New York niggas wanna see it come back… our favorite rappers include Jay-z and Nas too… I wanna see the next legend out of NY

    The difference is, New York niggas fell on hard times with music, so now yall niggas wanna attack the South and see us fail…

    get ya shit together

  • h-town represnta

    a yo,who runnin the game?thats riigghht!the south so yall keep hatin and well keep makin all this paper!HA!

  • batz

    I aint knocking nobody but put it like this The East? yall struggling The west? yall cominng back The south?WE running it right now and i while there is some truth to what jade star is said i refuse to believe that the only reason the south is on top is because hip-hop is in bad conditon the real reason is because its OUR TIME NOW NIGGA!!!! The East and West both had they periods of hiphop and yall was good but when its Time to pass the Mic yall want to hate adn come with excuses as to why yall aint on top its all BULLSHIT the south has BEEN enduring all the hatred and dissing we used to it the point is we done worked HARD to get to the Top and we probably wont ever get the respect we truly deserve its the type of shit that make me want to quit this hiphop shit But the south is here and you just gotta get used to it

  • batz

    the east had they turn the west had theres but when its time to pass the Mic yall don’t want to give it to us so we Snatched the mic nigga!!!! the south done worked hard to be on top we EARNED the shit aand still we probably won’t ever the respect we truly deserve yeah we may have some bad artist but its alot more ill niggas yall aint hearing because ya ears is closed to tight but at the end of the day niggas is always gon hate and as long as yall hating we gon keep hustling

    A-TOWN, ZONE 4, S.W.A.T.S.

  • batz

    just felt i had to put thatthat had to be up there 2 times nigga

  • http://YAHOO 1 K.I.N.G W.A.T.R

    LIKE I SAID BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN WHEN SOMEBDY POCKETS GET LOW THEY MOUTHS WILL GET GO. THE WORLD IS THAT SEEING PEOPLE LOVE THE EAST COAST FLOW AND WE WILL BY SOME OF IT,BUT WE HAVE ARE OWN STLYE THE FIRST COAST WAS THE WEST/LEFT OR BEST (HOW EVER YOU SAY IT) COAST THEY DO NOT GIVE A FUCK WHAT THE REST OF THE COUNTRY THINKS ABOUT THERE MUZIC. NOW ITS TIME FOR THE SOUTH TO TAKE THERE STAND LET THE COUNTRY NO U DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT PEOPLE THINK!!!! RAY CASH HAS STARTED THE MOVEMENT FOR THE REAL MID-WEST (NOT TO GET IT TWISTED ST.LOUIS THEY WANT TO BE COUNRTY SO WILL PUT THEM WITH THE SOUTH)HE HAS REAL UN-TOLD STLYE. SO ALL THE RAP CATS IN THE EAST THAT THOUGHT WALKIN AROUND WITH NOTE PAD SPITTIN SMILES WITH THE SUN DUN SHIT .EAST MUST START OVER AND RE-BUILD!!!!!!!!!!!

  • projectnrm

    I’ll sign on to the fact that the prevalence of southern hip hop was carefully planned. But the music itself has been in development for a while. Cats like OutKast and the Geto Boys are partially the reason why these companies began looking to the south in the first place.

    But also, I think this goes a lot further into seeing what makes a song (and furthermore, an artist) commercially successful. No one wants to buy an album filled with impenetrable lyrics and forgettable beats. While I love veterans like Ghostface and up-and-comers such as Papoose and Saigon, they just aren’t going to sell as much unless they get good beats and learn how to craft hooks people can easily repeat in the club.

    50 Cent might be the worst pure lyricist in the city of New York, but he’s gonna sell more records than God because he can pick beats and write hooks.

  • projectnrm

    And yes, I can’t wait for FFXII either.

  • http://www.blackline-inc.com YEN

    Congrats to my niggs in the south. I’m a Brooklyn kat that knows what’s really hood, call a spade a spade. The south has been in the grind long as any other and its their time to shyne. The problem with the east coast is that too many artist don’t know how to work their own music and get paid. Labels want more for less and thats what the south is bringing to the table right now. Too many artists want to run to labels for deals, and expect them to push their music. For what??? What the F**k can the label do you as an artist that you and your team can’t do for yourself if you selling your own work? Ya’ll forget that our favorite artists and pioneers had to hustle this shit too before the labels was really fuckin wit hip hop. Get on ya grind my niggs, hustle hard, see ya at the top…

  • http://www.myspace.com/kanemuzik LiL X aka kane

    niggaz hatin on tha south cuz of the weak niggaz out, but look at g-unit. evry region has bulshit rappers.

    tha south has been grindin since the early 90′s. this shit wasnt luck, it wuz well deserved and over due.

    listen to UGK! TI! Chamillionare!! Scarface! Devin the Dude!

    fucc dike jones and that whole snap muzik bulshit

  • Mally

    First off let me state I’m from New Orleans and a real hip hop head. i understand some of your comments, but stop saying southern rap cause it sounds like you have a problem with the south. Why don’t ya’ll stop focusing on blasting the region, and start blasting everyone thats wack in every part of the U.S. Trust me some of them New York niggas “the founding home of Hip Hop” is just as wack if not worse. Lets get back to Hip Hop and get rid of rap.

  • Hustle Hard

    HAAHAA!!! You compared music to Final fantasy!!!

    Anyways, Snap music sucks. Anyone can do it. Its too simple. If you southern niggas want real props, rap the proper way. Not the Bullshit way TI does. The good way like Ludacris and (…damn. I cant even find another southern rapper that does it right) does.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com Chi-Town Representor

    East Coast Artist could rip any of these southern artist. The South is killing hip-hop as we speak. Y’all people can say whateva the hell y’all want. I aint no hater, but im speaking tha truth. The South is Garbage. Now there are a few southern emcees that I can listen 2. I also believe there are a few cats from tha south who are lyrical. But the South is shitty and until the lyricism steps up in the south, The South is and always will be extremely shitty and an embarrassment 2 hip-hop. Fuck Crunk, Fuck Snap-music. Im tired of rappers from the south who are str8 trash gettin all the shine.They music is only good 4 in tha club. Lil Jon should just stick 2 producing. Honestly, I dont like him as a artist. But when he produce, some of his beats r hot. Those raw ass beats he be making need 2 be with tha right emcees who can rock those beats. I dont even see how people be into dis snap-music.Like I said, some of dis music is only good 4 when u at tha club or at a house party gettin a dance froma female. Thank god we have at least a few emcee’s like Luda who r lyrical in the south.The only Emcees I like from tha South are Luda, T.I., Lil Wayne,Little Brother, Outkast, and Scarface. Other than that, The South sucks big ol donkey balls, kid. STEP YA LYRISICM UP AND MAYBE I’LL TAKE BACK MY COMMENTS ON THA SOUTH.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com Chi-Town Representor

    I think the reason why tha south is on top is because they have theyb unity. But lookout, tha midwes gonna have they takeover with emcees like Ray Cash and Lupe Fiasco.

  • http://I WHY YALL MAD AT US

    REAL TALK. FUCK ALL OF YALL. ITZ NOT OUR FAULT THAT YALL LAME ASS MUTHAFUCKAS SUCK. THE SOUTH STICKZ TOGETHER MUTHAFUCKAZ. THE SOUTH ISN’T THE ENTIRE U.S. POPULATION. U KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS BITCHES. MUTHAFUCKAZ LIKE US ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. DA EAST COAST IS FULL OF FUCKING HATAZ.
    EVEN AN EAST COAST NIGGA JADAKISS SAID, ” WHY DA FUCK EVERYBODY MAD AT THA SOUTH FOR”.
    NIGGAZ ALL OVER DA U.S. BE BUMPIN OUR SHYT. EVERYTIME THERE IS NEW MOVEMENT IN HIP HOP DA EAST COAST TRY 2 TALK DOWN ON IT. AND FUCK THAT CHI-TOWN NIGGA WHO SAID DA EAST CAN RIP US. PUSSY NIGGA. FUCK NO
    NEW YORK ALWAYZ SAYZ Y’ALL COME SECOND 2 THEM. AT LEAST DA FUCKIN SOUTH SUPPORTZ Y’ALL MUSIC. DO OR DIE AND TWISTA. GET ON Y’ALL GRIND STOP HATIN HO ASS NIGGAS. GET USED 2 US. AND 2 THE MOTHAFUCKA WHO POSTED DA BLOG. BLOW IT OUTCHA AZZ.

  • http://I THEY GONA HATE DA MIDWEST TOO

    WHEN DA MIDWEST JUMPS OFF LIKE THA SOUTH DID. THEY GONA HATE Y’ALL 2.
    GET READY FOR IT. AND ILL BE RIGHT HERE WATCHIN Y’ALL DEFEND Y’ALL SELVES AGAINST THEM CATS LIKE DA SOUTH DID.

    EAST COAST IZ FULL OF BROKE ASS HATAZ.

    THEY HATED ON THE WEST COAST WHEN THEY JUMPED OFF BACK IN DA 90′S.

    DA SOUTH, MIDWEST, AND WESTCOAST GOT REAL NIGGAZ ON DECK…

  • SO HYPOCRTICAL

    East Coast Muthafuckas so hypocritical. Ya Stay hatin on Da SouF
    Y’all talk about mike jones & paul wall saying they gimmick rappers (i.e. showing dey icey grillz)…Don’t Y’all have…Hmmm…Uhm…RUN DMC(my adidas…NO wait…Da Kango Hatz…No no da leather outfitz)…AND SO MANY MORE I CAN’T COUNT
    Then Y’all talk about da SOUTH sayin we have lots of pop rappers….Uhm…Yeah Uhm BUSTA RYHMES…50cent…LL Cool J…Remember…Uhm…”RAPPERS DELIGHT….A classic but still a pop record.
    Stop RUNNING YO MOUTHES…HIP-HOP AIN’T DEAD…Y’ALL JUS AIN’T ON TOP AND MAD CAUSE OTHER MUTHAFUCKAZ GETTN DEY SHINE…STOP DEPENDING ON RECORD LABELS…GO OUT THERE AND GET IT…DA SOUF GOT UNDERGROUND RAPPERZ GOING GOLD AND PLATINUM IN THE FUCKIN HOOD…
    DA SOUTH IZ JUST ADDED MO FLAVOR 2 HIP-HOP…RAP…NO THE STREETZ IN GENERAL…IF Y’ALL DON’T LIKE US STOP PLAYIN OUR SHYT…ITZ ONLY DA BROKE ONE’S DAT CAN’T GET A DEAL DAT HATE…YOU DON’T SEE JAY-Z & DiDDY HATIN ON US DO YOU…UHM NO DIDDN’T THINK SO…WE KICKED DA DOOR IN TOOK, YA SHINE, YA MONEY, AND YA FUCKIN MIC

  • Screwston(houston)

    Hip hop is real music, street music, soul music. The voice of the streets. Rappers no people from New York should respect the G in the South. While ya’ll was getting all the pub up there, niggas done here had to hustle to eat. Wasn’t no red carpet laid out for us. We took this industry because that all we know how, to go get, take, make it happen. East coast and West coast rappers have been so blessed in the pass that the don’t know how it is to be unheard, to work fo what you need. Southern folks or the coolest people in the US, if you need help just ask. thats what we do. We help!!! But don’t take that for weak just be like Thank ya’ll man we was dead with out ya help kinfolk. D4L and franchise doing them. And I respect that because the motto in the South is Make that money by any means. Hip hop is strong right now, the south will never stop making music and hustling on what ever level so ya’ll either can share with us or take 2 steps back and keep following. We eally enjoy all this hatred because ya’ll let us know that we are a force that can change hip hop for good. But watch ya mouth before ya’ll really find out how Dirty the South really is. 1 love Hip Hop for eva. Texas stand up, Da Boot lace up, Miss strap up, GA grap da torch, Know who talking shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • So Hypocritical

    D4L Snap Music- Niggas From NY Harlem Shake…I got dem niggaz on another 1

  • Arkansas Nicca

    THE SOUTH IS BETTER PERIOD!!!

  • Arkansas Nicca

    WHAT THE FUCK IS “CHICKEN NOODLE SOUP”? LMBLACKAO

  • http://XXLMAG.COM EVERYBODY

    YEAH THAT’S WHAT UP! WHEN THE WEST AND EAST DIE THE SOUTH IS STILL GOING BE ON TOP REGUARDLESS

  • Little Rock Boi

    BE REAL YOUR METAPHORS ARE GETTING REAL FUCKING OLD NEW YORK!! JUS SAY WHAT YOU GOTTA FUCKING SAY WITH OUT TRYNA REFERENCE IT 2 SOMETHING!!! PAPOOSE WHOLE FUCKING RHYME SCHEME IZ A METAPHOR ITZ SO FUCKING BORING!!! NoBody wantz 2 hear metaphors tha whole fuckin song!!! Change up your lame Ass fucking stylez!!! You NY Catz are all tha Same!!! Thatz why your hip hop shyt iz dead and the South keepz on Killing YOU Lamez!!!
    Dirty South 4eva BITCH

  • LazyJ www.myspace.com/badaktorz

    Tha fact of tha matter iz irregardless of what you guyz call crap hop and shit hop tha South is cleanin up. Who cares if teenage kids myspace tha newest songs from Southern Artists. Sotuhern artists are about 1 thing!! (MONEY)!!!!! They found a scheme and are stickin to it, that’s y it will never stop. Case Closed!!

    Lazy J

  • CONTENT UNDA PRESSURE

    This club hip hop is just a fad and will die soon enough. REAL hip hop will return. Also by REAL hip hop, I dont necissarily mean that it will come from a certain region. There are talented rappers everywhere , and equally there are talentless dumbasses everywhere. So TRUE HIP HOP cannot be defined by a single region.

  • tExaS_gUh!

    dude smart up top..

  • Down South Stunna

    CONTENT UNDA PRESSURE…I feel you nigga errbody got great artists and errbody got bad one’s. I’m glad somebody said it. New York ain’t the only place that can produce great artists. I been feelin the same way for a while. JUST MAKE GOOD MUSIC because the only guys hatin are the one who ain’t making the greenbacks they want. U AIN’T NEVER HEARD JAY-Z or DIDDY hatin on the South. We jus want our recognition or we will take it pure and simple. Everybody do they own thing as long as it iz GOOD MUSIC!

  • Trae Bizzo

    First of all i resent the attempt to start another coast war by calling southern rap “crap”. There is no need for this, New York rap has pretty much played itself by starting the ‘My producer can rap and dance in my video too BS’and Yo son i killed ya whole family dressed up in a milkman costume. Pure nonsense. I don’t know how many times i threw up when i saw shiny sequence run across the tv in front of your favorite hardcore New York rapper. Second, when you say ‘king of New York’ Why every rapper turn around. How about lets get together and make our own Def Jam or sony. The average rapper aint rappin to make good music they are more concerned with that fake ass rented ice that we keep hearing about and seeing. Artists like black moon, Smif n wesson, and many others tried to hold it down for Ny but marketing schemes is what killed the average Ny raper they been swimming in it too long. And last Don’t hate on the UGK’s, MJG’s, Etc they been in the game for a long time just doin what they did 15 years ago; just rap.

  • http://xxl bk

    I can tell you the problem with hip hop…..it is the artist. I dont care about your grill, your rims or your private jets. We need music that helps us connect to images in our lives and helps us correlate occurances’ in our own lives with music. Someone above was commenting on the likes of eminem and paul wall as honkies. Well listen here nigger, i am white and the two best mc’s in the game are eminem and papoose….period. Lets not make music a element to signify a race, cause before you know it, those honkies will shut you and your music down. Please dont be decevied by the music videos and being a “trapstar”, ask young jeezy how much he would be singin “i luv it” in rikers. This country is only 15% non-white and about 6% of that number is currently incarcerated. get your mind right asshole. All i gotta say is im not a racist but i am not about to hold my tongue in the face of critiscm over the color to which i was born. New York all day…..I love hip hop in all its elements. I do, however, hate to read uneducated remarks which consist more of spiteful reverse-racist comments rather than thoughtful substance. Know your roll…..your a fan.

  • Real Hip Hop

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    Little Rock Boi Says:

    August 21st, 2006 at 9:19 pm

    BE REAL YOUR METAPHORS ARE GETTING REAL FUCKING OLD NEW YORK!! JUS SAY WHAT YOU GOTTA FUCKING SAY WITH OUT TRYNA REFERENCE IT 2 SOMETHING!!! PAPOOSE WHOLE FUCKING RHYME SCHEME IZ A METAPHOR ITZ SO FUCKING BORING!!! NoBody wantz 2 hear metaphors tha whole fuckin song!!! Change up your lame Ass fucking stylez!!! You NY Catz are all tha Same!!! Thatz why your hip hop shyt iz dead and the South keepz on Killing YOU Lamez!!!
    Dirty South 4eva BITCH

    Please kid, you cant be serious with this shit???? 99% of the south is fucking garbage!!! Yo, just for your information you may not want to hear our metaphors but no one wants to hear your HICK accents trying to rap about fake ass shit!!! Pap would rap circles around any fake ass MC from the south hands down! And you know that. You dumb hillbillys need to stick to cow tipping, working on your farms and fucking your toothless sisters!!!!