With barely two years in the mainstream hip-hop game under his belt, it's tough to label Ca$h Out a one-hit wonder. But after his infectious single “Cashin' Out” buzzed at an alarming rate and had everyone enamored with a girl named Keisha, many people were skeptical about whether the ATLien could ever top or match his first platinum single. With Epic Records and its legendary chairman and CEO LA Reid galvanized by a platinum single and the promise of more hits on the horizon, the label dropped the followup singles "Big Booty" and "Hold Up," featuring Wale. The singles performed moderately well, but nothing could touch the success of his initial boost.

Now two years later, Ca$h Out has left Epic Records in hopes of fortifying his success as an independent artist by inking a deal with eOne Music, home to the likes of DJ Drama, Joe Budden and Styles P. His newest single “She Twerkin’” is gaining momentum and is solidifying itself as a go-to record in a hip-hop climate full of rump shakers. With hopes of acquiring independent success a la Mac Miller, Ca$h Out is proving he can indeed become a formidable—and, most importantly, consistent—threat in the arena of making club bangers.

With his debut album, Let’s Get It, on the way, Ca$h Out sat down with XXL to discuss "Cashin' Out" being both a gift and a curse, his admiration for Jay Z’s business mindset and his ultimate choice for Woman Crush Wednesdays. Hint: the answer to the last one isn't Keisha. —Carl Lamarre

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XXL: Your single “Cashin' Out” exploded onto the scene big time. Describe your initial feeling after you heard your single went platinum.
Ca$h Out: Man, I was just waiting on the plaque to come through. [Laughs] I already had the gold one, so I wanted the platinum one next to the gold one at my house. So you know, it felt great, dog. You know, platinum is like diamond these days and gold is like platinum. So to sell a million singles, you know, that was huge, you feel me? Even with the new situation I’m at now [with eOne], Epic [Records], they still hit me up saying congratulations, you feel me? So we left on good terms.

With a huge single like that, it’s like a gift and a curse. It’s a gift because you gained fame and notoriety, but a curse, because now you have the pressure of having to top that single. Do you feel it is a gift and a curse in a sense?
In their eyes. But in my eyes, it was just about staying consistent. I didn’t know it was gonna go number one [on Billboard's Rap Songs chart], you feel me? It did that on its own.

It seemed like LA Reid was a believer from the jump.
Yeah. When we came to them, we were already in the 20’s on the Independent [chart] before we signed with Epic. We made their job more easier pushing it to No. 1 instead of starting from the bottom like 50 [Cent]. They pushed it No. 1 on both sides, urban and rhythmic. They did their jobs. Then, they pushed the single “Hold On” with Wale. So that solidified the one hit wonder. It went like top 15 or whatever. After that, I got into some legal things that kind of slowed the process down with Epic. In the middle of that, we kind of felt they kind of slowed up our project. And you know, out of respect, we sent them a request for our release. They kept it 100 and said we didn’t owe them a million dollars or $100,000. They just praised us for everything we brought to the label because they didn’t have to spend no hella grip on us. We made the label look good. We brought them the first No. 1 record over there, as far as the Urban department [is concerned.] And the first Gold plaque for the urban department before Future went No. 1. So that was a big accomplishment.

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How has the transition been for you switching from Epic, a major label, to eOne, an independent one?
Soon as we got over there, they were on us. They knew we had “She Twerkin’” already smoking before we signed with them. So all they had to do is sign us and get behind “She Twerkin.’”And look where we’re at right now. It’s in the mid-20’s. We’ve been working it for about a month. We’re at 106 & Park today. The video premiered on VEVO and MTV last week. Everybody is moving with me learning the charts now. It’s moving exactly how “Cashin' Out” was moving as far as like the girls and the stations. They’re loving it. They’re like, “Oh, this is the hottest twerk record out right now.” I’ve been seeing just famous females like Rihanna and everybody just twerking to it. Hopefully that comes true and we could have a big remix.

Who would you like to have on the remix?
The hottest females in the game. It don’t matter who it is right now. From Rihanna, to Nicki, to Iggy, to Miley. Any one of those hot females right there, 'cause I know the remix is gonna be crazy.

If you could have an ultimate twerk contest with three females of your choice to your record “She Twerkin’,” who would you choose and why?
Nicki, Iggy, and Amber.

Who do you think wins it?
The way Amber was moving it, man. I ain’t know she could dance like that. I love Wiz, man. [Laughs] But for real, man, he got a beautiful wife. It’s just dancing and all that. But she could dance, man.

Sticking to the female theme: Woman Crush Wednesdays is big on Instagram. Who would you choose as your ultimate WCW?
I think for right now, my label mate LeToya Luckett. [Laughs]

Why LeToya Luckett?
I don’t know man. I just seen one of her pictures and was like, “Damn. Can we do like a song or something?” [Laughs] Can we do like the Future and Ciara thing for like a week or two? [Laughs] She a very beautiful lady, man. I seen a picture of her and I kind of just made a mental note of who she was.

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Switching gears, you have your album Let’s Get It coming out. You said that your album is pretty well-rounded because you have trap, R&B and EDM. If you could describe your album in one word, what word would you use to describe it?
Whew. Stimulus Package.

That's two words. But why Stimulus Package?
It’s just gonna get you through your day. It’s really just made for any age group. Whether you’re young and like to party or you’re old and like to like listen to humble music. Or if you like EDM music, gangsta music, it’s all in one. I put it all in one and separated it from mixtape music to prepare myself for album music.

I know you also have French Montana and Migos on the album.
Yeah, I got French on “I’m Sorry” and Migos on “Trap House.” This album is really gonna be like a mixtape album, because I wanted to bring the streets on this album. A lot go for the big street acts, which I did on this album with Migos. The independent big names like the Rich Homie Quans. And then I could touch New York with French. And then I have Ty Dolla $ign. I got West Coast, East Coast, down South. Everything, man. This is a strategy, man. You feel me? I’m strategizing to win every time, man.

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You’ve said that Atlanta is the current home of hip-hop. Do you still feel that way right now, knowing that Cali is making noise and DJ Mustard is dominating on the production side of things?
Definitely, definitely. Cali is just getting into the mixture of things. They joined that club banger side. You look at “My Hitta”; you got Rich Homie Quan on the hook. So that’s Atlanta again. You got 2 Chainz with “I’m Different” and the Mustard sound. It’s just about who you put on the beat at the same time. Cali, you know they’re fucking with us, period. You know, they come down and we turn up. YG, Mustard, they all come down and turn up. So we just joining hands, man. There’s no beef on our side. There’s no, "Fuck y’all." I guess that’s why we’re winning because we’re just focusing on making good music and making hits.

I know you've said Hov is a major influence for you. In what ways has that been true?
He really influenced me both in music and in business, because his hustle is from the streets. I could see where it’s coming from. It’s in him. It’s in his pores. It’s in his blood. You could tell how he moving. That’s how, you know, when I went into the Puma deal. I didn’t go in there like, “Yo. What’s up shawty? What y’all got for me?” You know, I put my business cap on. From looking at me, I didn’t graduate or nothing. But when I went into that meeting, they had thought I had an IQ out of this world the way I was talking intelligently. I did the Sprite Spotify commercial. I hosted 106 & Park before. So you know, the hustle is in me. It ain’t just the music, it’s whatever I feel I can to do. That’s what I get from Jay Z and guys like T.I.

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