“He didn’t just go in and go ‘Buck is a legend. Whatever. I am just going to do a record over it.’ He literally just came from a point where, ‘Yo, it’s time for the cypher.’”
He opens his verse with a reinterpretation of your line, “When I get bent I must represent, no question.” How did that make you feel when he started like that?
When I heard the record I was blown away. When I heard him open the record with the verses that I did originally and flipped it his way, I thought it was a crazy, crazy idea. I tell you. Like I said, Em’s down to the minute. I wish I could give people the opening line the way he flipped, “Rest in peace to my niggas in the East.” The way he flipped that was so ill I damn near almost did Em’s line on a show that I had in Buffalo. I had a show in Buffalo and I almost wound up doing Em’s line to my verse, to my song. Which was good. Like I said, he didn’t just go in and go, “Buck is a legend. Whatever. I am just going to do a record over it.” He literally just came from a point where, “Yo, it’s time for the cypher.” It’s almost like, what better record to prepare than this raw bassline?
That record was also made when basslines had personality. Now, everything is pretty much based upon sound giving you the personality, and that’s cool too. The bassline brings it back. Same way with the different kinds of guitar and the wah-wah in its time. The trumpet had its time. Every instrument gets its time. When I made “I Got Cha Opin,” I came in the era of the bassline. That kind of added the rawness to a lot of the stuff. That’s why when you hear new stuff like Beast Coast, Joey Bada$$, Underachievers, Flatbush Zombies, TDE, Kendrick Lamar, Ab-Soul, ScHoolboy Q, all of them really have this raw bassline atmosphere that allows you to get into the personality of the person. That’s what basslines do. That’s the reason why people get a chance to attract to people like them as opposed to getting attracted to the record. Where after a minute, you don’t even remember the artist, you only remember the record. I think that’s what separates artists like us.
I think that’s why Em’s timing is perfect as well. A lot of people started to mislead Em for a minute. I think especially most recent times I’ve heard a lot of responses to the records. And look—everybody goes through their vibes or everybody goes through their energies or whatever. If the Eminem people have heard in the past couple of months didn’t reflect the Em that they wanted, it doesn’t show and reflect that Em fell off.
His whole campaign of this album is reviving nostalgia. On this record in particular, it just feels like raw hip-hop.
Yeah, he’s one of the rawest spitters in the world. Period. Period. Point blank. Point blank. Period. Eminem is one of the rawest spitters in the entire globe. That’s why I always be bigging up all the spitters and stuff like that. Like I said, I thank him because, again, he said something in the second or third verse that’s going to blow people’s minds away.
He’s definitely turning up the amplitude and the juice in this particular record of “I Got Cha Opin” that set the pace for a lot of stuff that’s dropping and I am happy for that. Like I said, Beast Coast. Joey Bada$$. Me and P-Money. We’re putting together an album. It’s really, really funny that Em did this record. The album that I did with P-Money, I would never say this. It’s no rub off of anybody. Not 9th, not this. Nobody. I never did a record since Enta Da Stage that reminded me of where I was at mentally with Enta Da Stage besides this new album with P-Money.
Fundamentally, where do you think Eminem is at right now?
I think it’s one of those things where those are kind of difficult questions to answer because he is Em. I think he’s in the right place of, “Yo, you couldn’t pick a better climate to come back out and seal that transformation.” When you get Em on a record with a commercial artist, obviously that’s something that’s being done. Obviously, that’s a climate. That’s someone saying we need to do this. But when you hear Em at his rawest I feel like that’s another climate too. I think Eminem fans that grew to love Eminem, they just love the raw Eminem. Now, you got a lot of fans who love the quote unquote commercially connected Em too. That shows creativity. That’s just a comfortable feeling. You do something that feels good. You don’t have to explain it. But at the same time, when you give us that Em that is raw, that just happens to be the Em that people are like, “Yeah, now that’s the Em I like.”