Train of Thought: Kendrick Lamar Speaks on His Take Care Feature & Meeting Drake

When details about Drake’s album, Take Care, began to surface over the last month or so, much of the information was expected. 40 was handling the bulk of the production, with a bunch of assists from T-Minus. Drizzy’s Young Money family Lil Wayne and Nicki Minaj were slated to appear, as was his young bull, The Weeknd, and his idol, Andre 3000. And so was Kendrick Lamar.

The 2011 XXL Freshman has been getting a number of looks this year, from work with Dr. Dre to tracks with Game, Wiz Khalifa, Warren G and more. Still, Take Care was a chance for K. Dot to get a major level of exposure to a largely new demographic. When the album leaked, anyone familiar with the Compton native’s music wasn’t surprised with his impressive showing on “Buried Alive.” Others may be thinking, who is this guy?

Here, Kendrick explains what it was like meeting Drake, his approach to writing the verse, and the overwhelmingly positive response he’s gotten. —Adam Fleischer @AdamXXL

“Buried Alive”

XXLMag.com: What was your first meeting with Drake like? You speak about it some in the verse.

Kendrick Lamar: I did a show in Toronto [on June 16]. My first show in Toronto. I think it was the same night, we was going back to the hotel, and he hit my phone. I guess he had got the word that I was in town. He was there for the night working for the album, and he just said [he wanted to] meet up. We met up, chilled out, got to vibe, see where each other was at and shit. Sometimes you like a person’s music but you definitely don’t like the actual artist when you sit down and you talk to them. That’s a real good dude. He got a real genuine soul. We clicked immediately. We had spoken probably one time before that.

Was there discussion of you being on Take Care that night?

Nah. He told me the basics and the idea of where he was going with it, but we really didn’t speak about me being on the album.

So when did he hit you to ask if you’d be on the album?

He reached out, I wanna say, after I dropped Section80. He was actually the first person to hear Section80. I gave it to him that night. He was catching a flight somewhere, and I sent it to him through e-mail, and he was just rocking out with it for a minute. Really bigging me up on the project, telling me to keep doing what I’m doing, that it’s amazing. Probably a week after [it dropped], he said, I wanna get you on the album. The first time he told me, he said he wanted to get me on a song with The Weeknd. But I don’t know if that song actually made the album. And then after that, a few more conversations, and he finally sent me an instrumental and told me to do what I want on it.

Were you surprised? On the song you speak about rappers giving you a false word. Like, I imagine, they say they fuck with you and wanna work, but nothing ever comes of it.

For him to actually reach out and say come to this spot where we at to chill out, that was a move by itself. A lot of people will talk to you on the phone or text you, but when it’s actually time to sit down and work, you never catch ‘em. I thought it was dope on his behalf to even reach out.

Did you know the direction of the album? Had you heard music that night you met that helped you approach the verse?

I didn’t hear no music for the album. Me being a fan of his music, following his career and listening to the prior songs he dropped, I felt like he was in a space now where vanity is everywhere, and he has his hands on every bit of it and he’s trying to escape that. But, at the same time, not being in denial of it. I wanted to speak from a standpoint of me being a new artist, and almost being in his shoes that he was a couple years ago, or last year, and expressing them feelings.

Did you know it was going to be an interlude, and sequenced like it was?

I wasn’t sure. When I finished, I thought of it as a dope interlude, but I didn’t mention it to him, cause I figured he could do whatever he want with it. But when I finished it, it felt like an interlude. Like something warming up to a bigger song.

To close out the verse, you say, “I live a double life and need to let her go/The reason why, the highlight was when he said:’You belong to the people when you outside/So dig a shovel full of money, full of power, full of pussy, full of fame/And bury yourself alive’/then I died.” What’s going on there?

At the end of that verse, that’s him, in the conversation, him telling me that you have to accept this lifestyle, because all of that will come, and it’s up to you how far you’re gonna go with it, or how much you’re gonna let in. Me acknowledging that, when I say, “Then I died,” it leaves it hanging on the audience trying to figure out where would I go with it? Will I let it taint me or destroy me? Or will I know how to deal with it?

Going back to your older stuff even a few years back, you’ve talked about grappling with vanity. Have those issues been magnified with recent success?

Definitely. Me getting the notoriety that I’m getting right now, I’m seeing a lot of ills, I’m seeing a lot of positives. It’s just me balancing it out now. That concept wasn’t far-fetched to where I’m actually at, as far as me dealing with the success that’s happening right now. So it was easy for me to write.

To kick off the verse, you talk about being a “suicidal terrorist.” Why?

It’s me being in denial. When I say buried alive, that means I might kill myself over everything that’s happening. The women, the money. That’s a metaphor for me basically saying, drowning yourself in that, and not being able to come back. “Lookin’ in the mirror I’m embarrassed.” I’m embarrassed with what’s going on, and I’m in denial of it. And saying I’m a suicidal terrorist, I might kill myself over it.

So it’s really that same thread that starts and ends the verse.

Right.

What kind of feedback have you gotten?

The feedback has been crazy! I understand the album wasn’t out, but it felt like the album dropped the same day as the leak. Nothing [less] than great, as far as the responses. People saying it’s one of my best verses—I don’t know if they just saying that because it’s on the Drake album [laughs]. Either way, they love it, and they understand if, because , if they follow my music before, I always talk about subject matter like that. And for the people that are just now catching on, it makes sense to them, too, because I break it all down. Meeting a person that’s the same age as you, and that moment of him pulling up in a Maybach and 40 pulling up with no doors. At that moment, you want that. You go back to this mind state where materialistic things is something that you want in your life. The moment I seen that, and how young he was, put me back in that space, no matter how much you try to fight it.

Was that a feeling that surprised you?

Yeah, it did. It’s crazy. At the end of the day, we all human. And that’s what people—I think that’s why they fuck with me the most. Because I’ve put that in my music, that I’m just a human being like everyone else, trying to figure [things] out. Even with Drake. He told me, Thank you. But he also said, the description I painted was something we haven’t heard in our generation in a while. I thought that was a dope compliment.

Is this a good introduction to Kendrick Lamar?

It’s definitely showing one side of things, of who I am. I feel there’s lot more they can hear. It’s also dope, because I don’t think my name is actually on the back of the cover. It’s a mystique. Who the fuck is this person on the back of “Marvin’s Room?” Which is everyone’s favorite song, as far as the females I know, and even some niggas. And I think that’s dope, because once they like it, they gonna go search for it and figure out who’s on there, and that’s when the buzz will continue to grow. One thing I’ve learned is that when something is really good, and people fuck with it, they gonna find you, regardless.

  • 804boy

    yo kendrick please keep it buh real talk, i’m going through this right now. i was in LA last week, I ate dinner at Mr. Chow’s, the only black person in there, and I’m thinking to myself, have I made it, is this what its all about? Is it all smoke an mirrors buying expensive shit, just because people say you should, and they think you supposed to have it? I’m on my way to medical school, so I know I will have my pick of women.

    • Ryan

      what?

    • Anton

      dude what the fuck? you comparing yourself as a medical student to kendrick an up and coming rapper with his first album out? boy what’s wrong with you ?

    • 2804boy

      ur a gay as nigga

  • 804boy

    what i mean is, do we work hard all of our lives for something we want only to realize its not what we thought it is. king solomon said in the bible nothing is new under the sun, he didn’t spare his body any of the lustful desires that he had ,and then in the end he got bored. jay z even said it “is this what success is all about? a whole bunch of rappers fussing with big mouths?” even people who are married with kids ,and seem to have it all get bored, because in a sense your living for your kids, and you put them first in everything you do. so when they leave for college, you sorta have lost your identity, and then you have to find yourself over again now that the nest is empty.

  • mike e

    Kendrick!!! When you coming london to do a show?!

  • 804boy

    anton, i don’t know you, nor will i argue with you, all i was stating is ah fuck it, if u don’t get it, you don’t get it god bless

  • http://www.soundcloud.com/ep559 www.soundcloud.com/ep559

    804 i feel ya homie , click on my name u might dig some of my tracks like put in work, or podium music were im talking about that subject matter in some parts

  • scott

    kendrick sounded alot like the 2009 version of kid cudi on this track

  • Ny

    @804boy i understand what your saying. fuck everyone else

  • 804boy

    word i feel you, ima check out ya tracks and to Ny yea everyone is free to have their opinion, everyone’s not gonna think like me or you, or experience or go thru the same shit. i just check this stuff for a few minutes while at work and log off lol.

  • Suhnoon

    KL is ILL with it…

    burntberry

  • http://Hitemup.com GBtha G

    diz new generations of rappers are nuthin but wack ass shet. I aint got no respect 4 diz bitch minded niggaz, fuck’em all. yeh its all bout cash,ass & gas like Billy Garland said.

    • LilBroadway

      Who gave a retard a computer?^^

  • vocab

    if this song means Kendrick is selling out, then fuck that shit. there are fewer and fewer of us lyricists brave enough, and talented enough to keep it real. i though K.dot had it in him

  • http://Xxlmag.com Blak knyt

    Wow i thought that buried alive joint was done by drake…well atleast this kendrick dude did justice to the track…

  • Uly

    I am a fan of music. I love music. I collect music and immerse myself in it at every chance I get. I love Kendrick Lamar’s music. I listen to Drake but he has no diversity in his music. His rhymes are monotonous and not relatable to a lot of people, although I love grinding on a female to his music I do not find my self as amazed with his sonics as much as I find my self with Kendrick Lamar’s. That all being said, WTF was up with Kendrick Lamar’s guest spot on “Take Care”!? When I first heard of his appearance I got excited, seeing it as a huge opening for Kendrick to progress into even more main stream publicity with his career, then I heard the interlude. Then I replayed it several times. Then I got upset and shut the album off. Kendrick Lamar is undisputedly one of the most talented artists of our generations. His combination of “lyrical wizardry,” valid subject matter, diverse and unique production, and all over steez is absolutely untouchable in 2011. Why did he have such a bizarre, awkward rhyme on “Take Care”? Why would he choose to switch his style to such randomness during such an opportunity? Why would he rap about meeting Drake…..on Drake’s album? In closing, I was simply disappointed by Kendrick Lamar’s interlude. I still retain my great appreciation for his artistry and hope to see him live in NYC at his own show in the future, and I wish him the best in his career, but I cannot make sense of this. Does anyone agree with me? Does someone have an explanation? Maybe I am missing something too obvious?

    • Alex M-H

      Are you sure you listen to Kendrick’s music like that? It’s not too far off from his quote unquote regular flow, its not like there’s a specific way he raps on each of his tracks I mean this is just one verse of one song don’t you feel like you’re over reacting a little bit? Compare this to ADHD, is it really that “weird”? My goodness don’t have a heart attack he’ll have other opportunities.

  • kingb

    @ uly I agree with some of your comment but no lyrical artist coming out now can get on a commercial record and spit lyrical shit he had to take it down a notch or 5…drakes listners like that soft shit..and who the hell is redmic I keep seeing people comment on her wtf does she have an album or mixtape out is she on itunes or something im bout to look her up

  • Kevs

    This introspective/ reflective-of-the-human-condition sort of music is very refreshing…lately rap has turned into rapper being showing thier vulnerabilities and basically that we’re all humans. Im loving this type of music.

  • http://www.dare2beedifferent.weebly.com Christy marie

    Word. If you really break it down, and I mean really break it down… Kendrick Lamar’s one verse killed drakes whole album. True story. Listen to the O.D. mixtape and you’ll see who kdot is on there, is the same person on take care. If not more refined. Mad talented yo. its the one of the only two songs i listen to off of Take care.

  • Aaron Wayne

    I have been following Kendrick for the last couple of years now and I must say I was surprised to see him on a Drake album. This song was kinda like Vanity Slave 1.5 . It’s just the thought of destroying yourself over this lifestyle that can “put you in a pine box”. Even with Ol’ Dirty to even jealously (Big L) this game has created many of casualties in the wake of many positives. Kendrick is the voice of a new generation, a world where age doesn’t exist, where people can find out anything no matter how old or young. Kendrick has breathed new life to rap and showed that having a different subject matter doesn’t make you gangster or Hip Hop: you make you, those who invent themselves for cameras are fake and will eventually be caught as fake cause they cant switch their style. They are still slaves to the same one dimentional bullshit they spew. I love Kendrick and if he stays true to himself, he will be recognized as the greatest rapper alive. No joke, this dude is that good!

  • J

    Yall gotta leave him alone. That’s the amazing thing about kendrick’s music, everyone can relate.