Tyler, the Creator: Oh, is that the one where he’s on the cover? He is like this? [Tyler crouches down, posing like Slick Rick on the cover of the album.]
Tyler, the Creator: And then there’s, like, a city behind him?
Nas: Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Tyler, the Creator: Yeah, I know, I know that one. I know that one. My favorite album is In Search Of…, by N.E.R.D. I think that’s the greatest shit ever. And then, probably, like, The Marshall Mathers LP. And then, I don’t know, maybe Love Deluxe, by Sade. Oh! And Hell Hath No Fury, by Clipse.
Nas: Really? Sade’s Lovers Rock album—that is one of my favorites.
Tyler, the Creator: Oh, yeah. That came out in 2000. That shit’s legit.
Nas: In the new record, I like “Babyfather.”
Tyler, the Creator: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sade is awesome. She’s so cool. Have you met her?
Nas: I wish.
Tyler, the Creator: I do, too. She’s super low-key. That’s cool, though.
Nas: That’s the best.
Tyler, the Creator: Being low-key is awesome… Your verse with fuckin’ Joe and Mariah Carey, the “Make It Last Forever (Remix),” from 2000, that’s one of my fuckin’ favorites. And Pleasure U Like—the verse with Jon B, from “Finer Things.” I was a big Jon B fan when I was younger.
Nas: This is crazy. This is crazy, man. That’s cool.
Tyler, the Creator: That shit’s so tight. Do you ever go go-karting or, like, to amusement parks or anything?
Nas: Nah, nah, nah.
Tyler, the Creator: Go go-karting. It’s fun as fuck. I went last week. Sore as shit the next day. ’Cause then, if you go with your friends and shit, it’s like a competition on the low. Then y’all just be bumping into each other, like, “No, fuck that! I want to win!” It’s amazing.
Nas: Dude, maybe I should hang with you more.
Tyler, the Creator: You should hang out with me for a day. We went egging the other night, and I hit this lady in the back of the head. And she, like… It’s kind of fucked up, but it was funny.
Nas: That’s incredible. The fact that you do… We was in junior high school, back around the way. And, you know, that was a big thing in Halloween. Everybody was egging up everything. That’s crazy. I’m glad that stopped, ’cause everybody would get hit with eggs. Everybody.
Tyler, the Creator: They don’t really do that as much. ’Cause out here in L.A., for sure, even with people my age, except for my group of friends, they just try to act older than they actually are. And, like, “I’m too good to be doing that.” And “I’m mature.” I’m like, “Nigga, you are 18. What are you doing?”
Nas: But I think it’s fucked up you went egging and hit somebody in the back of the head.
Tyler, the Creator: It wasn’t even on purpose, though. I just threw it, and she fuckin’… Like, it just, it hit, and you just see it, like… That shit was hilarious, though.
Nas: I know that just traumatized her for the rest of the year.
Tyler, the Creator: Oh, man. I got egged once, though. Like, I got hit in the chest, and I guess it was karma. I don’t know. It sucked. But later on, you’re like, Damn, that was actually funny. It’s like getting shitted on by a bird. It sucks at the moment, but a week later, you’re like, That’s funny as shit. Have you ever played Grand Theft Auto?
Nas: Yeah, yeah, I did.
Tyler, the Creator: Did you like it?
Nas: Yeah, when it first came out. I don’t play video games, though. I’m not into ’em. But the ones that got the crazy graphics and shit, I got to try it. When Grand Theft Auto first came out, I was on that, though.
Tyler, the Creator: Your daughter’s name is Destiny, right?
Tyler, the Creator: How old is she now?
Tyler, the Creator: That’s sick. I remember the song you dedicated to her off Street’s Disciple, the second disc.
Tyler, the Creator: I love that beat. That song’s legit.
Nas: Aw, thanks, man. It’s crazy, because when she was young, she was a baby, I thought, Aw, man, I’m gonna quit this rap shit before she becomes old enough to even know what I’m doing, what I did for a living. I never thought that I’d be still doing it while she’s a teen, growing up. And I’m still in the game. It kind of fucks me up.
Tyler, the Creator: It’s kind of weird, huh?
Nas: It’s weird as fuck sometimes. But then, other times, it’s, like, perfect. It’s, like, I’m glad it worked out this way. ’Cause then I would have to be telling her, “No, I really was a somebody in rap. Like, you got to believe me!”
Tyler, the Creator: She’d be like, “What the fuck you talking about, nigga? I’m about to go to the mall.”
Nas: Exactly, exactly, dude. That shit is amazing.
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