White On White (Lyrical) Crime

White rappers just can’t seem to get along with one another. Similar to the same problem that affects female MCs, there only seems to be room for one pale-faced lyricist in the game at any given moment, which can cause quite a predicament. To explain our point, XXL took a look back and highlighted 10 of the most memorable beefs in no particular order. This is strictly white meat. Now dig in.

3rd Bass Vs. Beastie Boys
When the Beasties left Def Jam in 1989 for Capital, Russell Simmons quickly tried to replace them with MC Serch and Prime Minister Pete Nice. The duo, hailing from Queens and Brooklyn respectively, wasted no time in dissing the white rap forefathers. On “Sons of 3rd Bass,” the second track off their Def Jam debut, The Cactus Album, the fellas took plenty of shots at the Boys. Pete specifically called out Ad-Rock for his lack of street cred.

“You know about that silver spoon havin, buckshot acne showin, L.A. weak-ass sellout. non-legitimate, tip-doggin’, jethro pseudo intellectual, dust-smokin, pretty boy playwright posin’, folks wiggin, whinin’ annoyin Def Jam reject devil, white bread no money havin, slum village people cloning, step children!”

Of course The Beasties took notice and on “Professor Booty” MCA, responded by poking fun at Serch’s penchant for dancing. “I’m bad ass, move your fat ass ’cause you’re wack son/Dancin’ around like you think you’re Janet Jackson.” Ouch.

3rd Bass Vs Vanilla Ice
The Beasties weren’t 3rd Bass’s only victim. The guys’ bigger beef was with the Ice Man. They were always vocal with their disliking of the pop rapper, whom they considered a fraud. On 1991’s “Pop Goes the Weasel”—ironically their biggest hit (making it all the way to No. 1 on Billboard’s rap charts)—the group hanged dude out to dry. They even went as far as hiring an Ice look-a-like for their video (played by punk rock legend Henry Rollins), who they beat up with baseball bats at the end of the clip.

Eminem Vs. Everlast
Back in 2001, Em and Whitey Ford notoriously exchanged words over a handful of diss records. As the legend goes, Whitey Ford allegedly caught feelings when the two crossed paths backstage at a concert, and the blonde bomber didn’t show him any recognition. The House of Pain frontman felt slighted and dropped a subliminal diss to Em on Dilated People’s “Ear Drums Pop (Remix).” “I buck a .380 on ones that act shady.” Never known to back down, Em quickly responded with “I Remember” addressing the comments over an acoustic track that poked fun at Ev’s new, softer “Whitey Ford” persona. Everlast busted back on “Whitey’s Revenge,” calling out Mr. Mather’s daughter and mother, which resulted in two more hard-hitting songs by Shady, “Quiter” and “Shit on You” with his group D12, which answered any questions who was the victor in this battle.

Eminem Vs. ICP
Eminem and the Insane Clown Posse’s beef runs deep. The two acts, both hailing from Detroit, have had problems since the late 90s. Supposedly the issues started when Em put ICP’s name on a flyer in order to draw a crowd at a show, before he got signed by Dr. Dre. Ever since they’ve both talked ill of one another in interviews (especially on the Howard Stern show) and had lines in each others songs. ICP even went as far to release a remix of “My Name Is,” called “Slim Anus,” recruiting a Shady sound-a-like to record homoerotic voiceovers.

Eminem vs Cage
When Eminem first came out, New York based underground rapper Cage felt as though the Detroit rhyme slinger stole his shtick. Being another obscene, sucicidal, white MC who rapped about taking an insane amount of drugs and having a messed up life, it wasn’t hard to see the two’s similarities. So Cage called him out on several of his 12 inch singles, and freestyles on the Stretch and Bobbito show—the seminal radio program that helped launch both MCs careers. This resulted in a war that went on for years. Em is heard throwing shots at Cage throughout his debut album, The Slim Shady LP, most notably on “Role Model” where he spit, “I bought Cage’s tape, opened it and dubbed over it.” He even appeared on the cover of former rap mag Stress’s cover dressed as Cage’s rap alter ego Alex, (from the Stanley Kubrick film, A Clockwork Orange) decked out in the characters garb, holding a knife to his eye.

Cage Vs. Esoteric
In the early 2000s Cage Kennylz and fellow independent Boston MC Esoteric went at it. Why? It’s not exactly clear, but it spawned several entertaining diss records including Cage’s “Haterama” and 7L’s “Do It.” The Big Apple and Beantown never could get along.

Cage Vs. The High & Mighty
When Cage left H&M’s label Eastern Conference Records for Def Jux he publicly harbored bad feelings towards his former partners-in- rhyme. On “Public Property,” off his 2006 album Hell’s Winter, he blasted the Smut Peddlers for owing him money and exploiting his talent. “But upon departure of y’all I checked nothing just carried on my vision/ Wrote ’till my fingers bled, got no respect or love/ So now y’all can pay me back by writing out my check in blood/ But pay me no mind if my records are wreckless/ This time around I’m just one of you fucking depressed kids/ You saw the bottle splash next see the tech spray…”

Copywrite Vs. Asher Roth
Following the success of Asher Roth’s “I Love College,” a lot of random white rappers came out of the woodwork to throw shots at the suburban sensation. One of the more credible MCs to take offense to Roth’s existence was former Eastern Conference rep, Copywrite who launched a campaign against the 2009 XXL Freshman. He released a few records including “The Real Fake Shady” and “Cremation.” Many believed that Ash responded on the song “Silly Boy,” but the verdict is still out.

El-P vs Sole
S.A.T. words never sounded so hard. In the late 1990s El-Producto of Company Flow and Sole of the Aniticon crew got involved in some intellectual sparring, that showcased how El originated the 50 Cent rap war tactic of taping phone conversations. Sole apparently called El before stuff got out of hand, and El used the convo to his benefit on his diss track “Linda Tripp” where fans heard him not only sonning Sole, but putting the Anticon MC’s standom of his own group on blast. “I love Company Flow.” FAIL.

R.A. the Rugged Man vs. The Alchemist
R.A. took a pot shot at ALC on his track “Lessons,” accusing the producer of stealing his beat for “Stanley Kubrick” and using it for another beat. On the song he says, “Alchemist you still my little buddy/Although you stole that Royce Da 5’9” ‘The King’ beat from me.” Apparently they mended their bad blood exchanging witty twitter messages last summer.

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  • N.Y

    Shoulda mention this line from EM on I Just Dont Give A Fuck “Im Nicer than Pete,but im on a Search to crush a Miilkbone/ Im Everlast-ing,i melt Vanilla Ice like silicone/” EM dissed 5 white rappers with that one line.LoL,Pete Nice,MC Search,Everlast,Miilkbone and Vanilla Ice.
    Good shit

    • jburg

      Good shit!! After over ten years of being a huge fan I never put that together! I’m gonna have to go through his CDs now and listen even harder.

  • http://bonemass.blogspot.com bread

    quitter and hit em up shat on everlasts

  • THA TRUTH

    personnally…i liked vanilla ice…he was the man..got millions..did what he had to to get paid…haters take note

  • Sha

    It’s pure common sense to me why this happens….. It’s more of a strategic move than a racist one….

    It’s easier to pick on someone who’s equally new in the field and has the same mountain to climb (blacks accepting whites as real emcees), than it is to attack a black emcee and have the whole “Black” hip-hop community rip you a new asshole and devastate your career. That why white rappers attack white rappers. But to me it’s more about “Guns and Butter”.

    It’s the same reason blacks attack blacks….. Dionne Warwick attacking rappers rather than attacking the predominately white companies that profit off of the art form. Delores Tucker…. “Guns and Butter”.

    Charles Heston attacking Ice T for “Cop Killa”…. it’s easier to attack the artist than the label pushing the product. Much bigger guns…. “Guns and Butter”.

    Some will want to make it racial, but it’s not really. Maybe in the short term. But it’s a long term strategy for making your product more realer and therefore separating yourself from a lesser caliber artist.

  • Q461

    “it’s not really. Maybe in the short term. But it’s a long term strategy for making your product more realer and therefore separating yourself from a lesser caliber artist.”

    Co-sign. The truth is female and white rappers are in the minority, so because its so competitive, they wanna try and push out somebody new thats just like them, to keep their position in that sacred lane.

    I do gotta point out that 3rd Bass also dissed Hammer. They seemed to diss dudes like Hammer and Vanilla because of the belief they were watering down hip-hop culture. The reason Serch and them dissed the Beastie Boys is because Serch actually tried to join the group and they rejected dude.

    Eminem dissed alot of white MC’s early on, but do remember he also went at Canibus and Ja Rule. He’s matured alot since going at Cage, Vanilla Ice, Miilkbone etc. He gave Asher Roth his due props and just signed Yelawolf. He did a track with High and Mighty too at one point I’m pretty sure.

  • http://www.BigBoyzBeatz.com Mr. Hellaware Steve C.

    My homie Jon Conner has been getting hated on by more than just white emcees. He gets hated on by every rapper because he super dope. Oh yeah in 2010 Haystak form Nashville tried going at Eminem but didn’t get any response except from King Gordy & Bizarre.

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  • http://MYSPACE.COM HELTAH SIN SAY

    SHUT THE FUCK UP , THERE IS NO BLACK MAN ON THIS PLANET THAT COULD FUCK WITH EMINEM! IM SORRY BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS

    • Hannibal

      “SHUT THE FUCK UP , THERE IS NO BLACK MAN ON THIS PLANET THAT COULD FUCK WITH EMINEM! IM SORRY BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS”

      Ahhh White people believing their own hype.

      The 1957 version would have been

      SHUT YER YAP, THERE IS NO NEGRA ON THIS PLANET THAT COULD TANGLE WITH ELVIS DA KANG! PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT..

      AND 3RD BASS IS NOT ONLY THE CORNIEST GROUP OF ALL TIME, MC SERCH IS THE CORNIEST WITHIN THAT GROUP. THEY ARE THE PROTOTYPE FOR WHAT SHA SAID ABOVE. THE INSECURITY IN THEIR PERSONALITY WAS SO APPARENT

  • bearsfan4life

    that track from d12 is called Girls… Em tore whitey ford and Limp Bizkit a new asshole

  • NAPTOWNNUISANCE

    Em never responded to Haystak, because Stak aint worth the time. Why hype some ones career up and gain them popularity when they arent even worth battling. Stak made one good diss song out of about 50. Thats the youtube exclusive video Virus. And I bet it was ghostwritten.

    I give him props though he did clown a lot of industry cats on that song though thinkin they would ride with Eminem if Em responded.

    He clowned Em, 50 cent, Luda, T.I , Rick Ross Dre and D12.

    I wish Em would have responded though and just shut his ass down, so he cant go around claimin, he won because he thinks em is scared.
    Stak, got desparate bottom line, and thats why he lost a lot of fans including me. By tryin to take personal shots at Eminem and bringin up Proofs name. Thats why he cant perform in Detroit now, because the whole town wants to kick his ass.

  • caino

    White on white lyrical violence in hiphop is to be expected. There aint to many lanes in hiphop and to stop it becoming saturated, u gotta prove you are better than the next whitey!! Same with the females!

  • Soltair

    Vanilla Ice dissed 3rd bass a couple times on his 94 release “Mind Blowin”
    On “The Wrath”
    “pop goes the weasel was a big fa- flop-flop,
    the brothers didn’t like your record, cuz it wasn’t hip-hop-hop but this aint a diss, cuz you sold gold, st
    ill made a killin,
    cuz it aint even a tenth of eleven million.”

    and “Iceman Party”
    “Another #1 hit to deal with
    I gotta fist full of junkies of hip hop
    Sucka’s that get in the way have to get dropped.
    Forget pop goes the weasel cuz I ran over them punks
    Like a mac truck diesel.”

    Vanilla Ice also dissed Marky Mark on the song “Hit em hard”

    “Ya damn right, Vanilla Ice
    With twice the punch,
    I put the crunch on Marky
    And take the funky out of his bunch.
    I hit the home run
    You got to third base, son.
    I’m in first place,
    Take a seat clown for the beatdown.”

    “…Cuz you fell into my booby traps
    No more good vibrations,
    I’m tired of your booty raps,
    So I eat ya like scooby snacks,
    An maybe roll you like a zig zag
    Or smoke you like a hootie mac,
    You did what I did,
    So you’re gonna lose kid,
    Cuz to me you’re still a new kid on the block
    Get off my jock,
    Before you get dropped
    For the beatdown”

    “…Oh what a pity, though
    Cuz ya had to spend three million
    dollars on your video.
    It was video and I can admit that,
    All that money’s wasted cuz your songs wacked,”

  • Deez Nutz

    Where’s Celph Titled Vs. Cage on this list? Celph pressing up Cage’s diss tracks on vinyl, selling them and recording himself on wax counting the advance money he’d made was one of the most underated moments ever in Hip-Hop battles. Even if Celph allegedly got a bottle over the head from Cage down the line.

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