Sam Jean: I believe that the CEP was aware that if Clef ran he had the best chance of winning. He was leading in all the polls.
Aqua: how legit are these polls?
Kris Ex: I think that’s an important point re: the polls. Not sure how accurate they are.
Sam Jean: It is Haiti. And these are not polls conducted by foreign news services.
Erik Parker: Is this a diaspora vs. Citizens? Or is it just usual power groups want to stay in power? Or both?
Aqua: I just can’t see how even if Wyclef did get on the ticket that the numbers weren’t going to get rigged, if he indeed would have won the popular vote.
Jesse: How old is the youngest member of the CEP. Is it an age thing? Young vs. old?
Sam Jean: We could debate the reliability of the numbers, but what is clear is that he was considered the frontrunner.
Kris Ex: Clef would have mobilized people to vote much in the way Obama did.
Erik Parker: Yes. He would have won.
Kris Ex: So the fact that he was ahead in the polls (reliable or not) speaks to his chances
Sam Jean: He was the clear favorite.
Kris Ex: He was the favorite by default because, really who was gonna vote for Sweet Micky not named Pras?
Aqua: Clef did say that he was drafted to run by the youth of Haiti and old guard regimes will fight the youth tooth and nail.
Sam Jean: Over 60% of the population is under the age of 26.
Kris Ex: And the other guys are grandfathered in crooks.
Sam Jean: Clef would have mobilized them to come out and vote.
Erik Parker: What does this say about the possibilities to fight corruption, what with all that money flowing now? Does this foreshadow what is to come?
Sam Jean: I think that since there is going to be some oversight in terms of how the money gets doled out corruption has a chance to be reduced.
Kris Ex: I think a BIG part of the reason the money isn’t flowing in is a no confidence gesture towards the current administration.
Sam Jean: But that doesn’t mean it will be eliminated.
Erik Parker: Good point Kris.
Kris Ex: I wouldn’t give 5.2 billion to some guys on their way out, who were basically absent in the immediate aftermath.
Vanessa Satten: Yo yo yo.
Kris Ex: Hey V.
Andreas: So if this is the standard for rejection, what are we really arguing about here?
Kris Ex: We don’t know if that’s the reason for rejection
Aqua: The loose and suspect application of said standards.
Sam Jean: I don’t think they have actually given a real reason for Clef’s rejection. They are letting the media say it’s because of residency. But we have reports that Clef was initially on the list of approved candidates and when his lawyers argued his case in front of the CEP they didn’t mention residency.
Jesse: That’s a good point Sam that has gotten overlooked
Sam Jean: If they have rejected people like Raymond Joseph because of residency that’s bizarre seeing that he is an ambassador to the US he couldn’t possibly be reasonably expected to live in Haiti.
Erik Parker: I agree. Residency seems suspect.