Lil B, “I Felt Like [Joe Budden] Was Making a Mockery of Me.”

As far as up-and-coming rappers go, Brandon “Lil B” McCartney is one of hip-hop’s most enigmatic figures. At first glance he’s just another obnoxious rap kid preoccupied with making up dances on his YouTube page (see “The Cooking Dance“), hitting the studio to lay down irreverent, braggadocios and misogyny-laiden verses over bass-heavy party tracks, or engaging in one-sided rap beefs with the likes of Joe Budden. But if you ask anyone who knows Lil B personally (like Glasses Malone or Tony Yayo, for instance) you’ll get a starkly different description of the 21-year-old rapper, writer and, as he calls himself, “composer.”

Indeed, there’s more than meets the eye when it comes to Lil B, especially when you take into consideration that he’s performing at sold out shows in New York and was recently named in the list of Top 10 most viewed artists on YouTube. Life seems pretty good for the kid, who makes up one quarter of Bay Area rap group The Pack. XXLMag.com caught up Lil B to find out where his head and heart is at when he’s contradicting himself on wax, starting Twitter beef with Joe Budden, and making music.

XXLMag.com: What’s the deal with you and Joe Budden?

Lil B: I’ma supporter of Joe Budden. I listen to his music, I think he’s a very talented and truthful artist and this… That insult, you know, he… It was crazy ’cause I felt like he was making a mockery of me over Twitter, so [I tweeted], “Joe follow me. I’m a supporter of you. Check me out. Let’s do some work.” He didn’t follow me. I’m like, “Okay, Joe, I’m getting very emotional right now. I feel like you’re making fun of me. Follow me.” He didn’t follow me, I said, “Fine, Joe, I’m a better lyricist than you. You cannot see me lyrically.” Then he started tweeting, like, “Ooh, really,” he’s like, “I wouldn’t wanna be dissed by somebody that looked like Jesus,” and really making fun of me. And you know, I’m thinking in my head Joe Budden is really a worthy opponent ’cause a lot of people aren’t worthy of me to address them. He’s worthy of me to address and so, I destroyed him and you know, it’s done now.

And that was it?

I apologized to him later, I told him my feelings were hurt that you didn’t follow me and you know you were mocking me over Twitter. You were being mean, you know what I mean? I don’t want you to lose money, or hurt your brand in anyway. I let it rest at that, and then he hit me up today like, “I want you on Mood Muzik 4” and it’s like, he won’t follow me, it’s like he’s making like a mockery of me. You know? I don’t know. Maybe he has dry humor over the Internet. I don’t know. You know, but it’s just the Internet.

Do you feel it was a mistake having that exchange online?

I’m ready for any rapper to lyrically try to mess with me and what not ’cause it’s not going down and I will destroy them. It’s just crazy, he’s just one of those guys that really just not paying attention as much as you think he is. If [Budden] really was paying attention he would respect what I’m doing, you know what I mean? I really pay attention. I’m seeing the artist that I respect, but it’s some people everybody not gon’ like, so I have to accept that, too. But it’s kinda like, I’m making it to where I’m undeniable, ’cause I really got something for everybody. But it’s like when you gon’ take the time out to sit and take a listen?

Do you feel like controversy like that overshadows your music?

That’s a chapter of my life, that’s a part of what’s happening in my life, that’s a part of history. You know, we move on and I don’t feel like that’s gonna overshadow, you know? It’s lessons learned and as a warrior you continue to move and don’t let your past get altered. You know, so I consider myself a warrior and this is a battlefield.

So you’re working on a solo album, Rain in England, right now. How’s that coming along?

That’s gonna be one of the best hip-hop albums to ever come out and one of the most unique albums to ever come out in hip-hop. I’m extremely proud of that, that’s why I’m ranting and raving and being crazy because I got some amazing music that’s historical and that’s gonna change what people think.

How so?

I’ma keep some stuff secret, but really, it’s bringing sound and emotion to hip-hop that’s never been done before. Really, this album is, I feel the closest thing to an emotion that hip-hop can get, and you know, it’s really like a movie. I know you hear a lot of rappers saying they’re gonna make a movie, or this is a movie right here, but what I have is the definition of, you know, really that.

But what makes this album stand apart?

Everything, just everything about it is very personal. I had no structure with writing it. Created my own structure and everything, like, chorus, bridge and everything. Like, I totally tarnished what regular hip-hop would be, or what somebody would do with a song. Made my own.

Sounds kind of dark…

It has some dark sides, but then it has some amazing sides to it, like I’ll tell you one song that I made called, “Birth To Life” and what it’s doing is showing appreciation to the woman, to the man, and the woman for coming together and creating the child and you know, it just comes, just to breathe.

That’s a new depiction of women for you, you don’t usually depict women in a positive or even humane light for the most part…

You know, I have so many different personalities and sides to me that I feel like it’s endless. You know, I’m always evolving and finding new music and appreciating new things and being one with the earth, so it’s like how I could relate to my own self was honestly embracing music and I became less ignorant… That’s why my music is where it’s at right now because I have no boundaries right now. I feel one with the other so.

What else can we expect from the project?

It’s very much like a melting pot to the soul, just thinking and melting into your emotions. Then I have songs on there that are dark, like, “The Hell Raiser.” And, you know, what that is about is kind of, me showing, I kind of feel like I’m the hit man with the rappers and kind of studying the rappers and watching them from my basement as if you kind of remember “Phantom of the Opera” or something and you seen me down there, I’m composing this music while watching BET and watching these artists and MTV and watching these artists and the videos are on rotation and I’m saying that needs to be me and I’m Phantom of the Opera, you know? So, it’s some amazing sides to it and I think this is going to touch everyone, the greats of hip-hop, you know? Everybody’s gonna really have to pay attention to this and take what they need from it.

Okay, is that how you kind of feel like, is that where you see yourself in hip-hop right now, kinda like on the sidelines taking notes?

I definitely see myself on the sidelines taking notes from the greats and going back in the past, and you know ’cause I feel a lot of people, doing the same stuff. I see a lot of rappers copying Drake’s flow, I see a lot of rappers just pretty much doing the same thing and you know it’s me, I’ve always, my whole life, I’ve always wanted to do what no one else was doing and if I see, you know, If I’m hearing somebody is coming from where I’m from I try to make sure I’m very different from them because I want nothing to be like them. You know what I mean? And I see myself taking notes, I also see myself giving a lot of tips and coaching too and you know, really giving a lot of free game on my side too. So, it’s kind of like a transition, taking notes, but I’m also giving away a lot. It’s just a good thing, you know?

So what brought about these changes?

I’d say growing up… I got in my trouble, and nearly I almost lost everything and it balanced me and really like challenged me to continue to work hard and keep recording when people would be like, “You’re stupid. Stop!” I don’t know what you’re talking about because I knew in my heart what I’m doing and I knew in my heart what I’m doing is right because I have a message and I’m saying something. —Brooklyne Gipson

  • J.6oo

    typical PR-crap…

    and joey crushed by this guy? is it april 1st again?!

  • HellNaw

    XXL really?? Lil B??

    Didn’t bother reading all of his delusional views.smh.

  • dezzy357

    LMFAO @ FIRST QUESTION ANSWER!!!!

  • True Dat!

    Joey B would murda this crack baby…
    When he reads this interview, he WILL murda diz crack baby…
    Goofy azz boi just bodied himself w/ diz interview.

    Brooklyne=I KNOW u was craKKKN up driN diz interview/if u were’nt…u wanted 2.

  • http://twitter.com/PrettyBoy_Based prettyboy_based

    joe budden wouldnt do shit he’s PLAYED OUT BASEDGOD LETS SHOW THESE HATERS HOW WE ROCK

  • http://www.youtube.com/chrisgoldenliberated Chris Golden

    you people are fucking idiots. No one can destroy Lil B. Why? Because he has contradicted every single stereotype in Hip-Hop. Are you going to call him a faggot? Go ahead he’s already done that to himself. Are you going to call him the devil???? Go ahead..He’s already done that too! Or call him a bitch??? He has a song titled “Pretty Bitch”. You have to ultimately like his shit, or don’t like this shit. That was the marketing ploy. Hate is the new Love. Pay attention to the message and not the image.

    • http://basedworld.com Lil B

      thank you brother swag chef

      • Josh

        Hey Lil B, what song did Rolling Stone quote you on in the Hot Issue? I loved the lyrics, and I’ve been searching the net in vain trying to find the song.

    • WestSideBoyBrown

      real talk bruh real talk

  • jaeslime

    I respect lil b. Allday Haters gona hate.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/LightSkinnTV213?feature=mhum -(SLiiK)-

    MAN SHUT THE HELL UP!! lol man this jus another IGNORANT BLACK PERSON! Martin Luther King wudnt even try to help this dude! lol man i cnt lie he’s comin up n got pple talkin bout him but he sed he destroyed joe budden???????? HELL NAW! if joe come bak at his ass his carreer is O V E R!!!

  • Young_Bitch

    Joe Budden is hot trash………..who cares about this bum…nigga had 1 hot song and crashed and burned…..only thing kept him in the light was his video hoes POINT BLANK!!!

  • 510 boy

    Must be a slow news day…..

  • El Tico Loco

    Jay Z, Saigon, Meth and Chef where does Lil B fit in as a worthy opponent of Budden? He needs a Tosh.0 web redemption from getting stole on. Going on cam with the fat lip to give excuse and throw darts ain’t a good look … Oops! I forgot Budden did that too. Maybe they should do a collab call it “Black Eye Peace”.

  • 619

    He talkin’ bout Budden can’t see him lyrically hahahahahahaha, fuck outta here Lil’ B. A while back my boy was dyin’ laughin’ showin’ me this fool on youtube, and after a couple videos of this fool tryna rap I told him to turn it off because that shit was hurtin’ my ears. This fool wearin’ tight pink v necks and rappin’ the same lines over and over and over again about bein’ a pretty bitch and a based god, and then gettin’ knocked out at his video shoot in Berkely. Gotta be one of the worst rappers in history.

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  • loop

    yall niggas mad because lil b fucked your bitch. he is the best thing in hip hop right now.

    • Retarded Rap KillA!

      Yo azz would’nt know hiphop if she sat on yo’ face…SMDH@chu’ craKBabyz

      ANYbody on here dat thinks calliN ya’self a b***h has SERIOUS issues & needed a DAD in ya life. Dude shoulda wiped ya’llz azzez on a sock.

  • dynamik008

    “And you know, I’m thinking in my head Joe Budden is really a worthy opponent ’cause a lot of people aren’t worthy of me to address them. He’s worthy of me to address and so, I destroyed him and you know, it’s done now.”

    LMFAOOO!!! Joe would body this dude easily. Not even funny.

  • LEEK

    Did This whole beef start over Lil B feeling played cuz Jumpoff didn’t follow him & he got emotional? What happening to this new generation of rap dudes?

  • SOMETHIN NEW

    I’m laughing my ass off at the part when he says that he told Joe Budden that his feelings were hurt because he didn’t follow him on twitter and he’s getting emotional right now.

    This dude is very sensitive.If any of you have time,you should checkout his interview when he’s talking about masterbating to pRON with people in the room.Talkin about weird.

    I’m not even going to dis this dude because everytime he does an interview he eithers himself.I’m gonna leave it at that because i’m getting very emotional right now.LMFAO!!!!!!!

  • Ko-Jo

    This nigga is so dumb am surprised he even spoke @ da interview . . I told Joe hes hurtn my feelins . . Smh wats happening 2 Hiphop?

  • yoprince

    not really up on dude’s music like that but i do know he’s got a joint called “the world’s ending” that goes hard, especially the second verse.

    and i know he shitted on joe buttons.

  • http://asianmanflavor26@Yahoo.com 415

    the same mockery is what will get him killed in the Bay area faster than a roach in the daylight hours…..

  • Sean Brownlee

    look her all you hating bitches who on the interview you or him ? oh i htought so u fukn nobody’s based boys stand up bitches ! @prettyboy_based

  • beaver

    hahaha faggot nigga..,
    awee joey got u upset haah..
    who wouldnt mock this clown ass rapper..
    joey would ether this clown..but who would bother..this kidd is mockin himself. ha..

  • Key

    Lil B….I would battle you anytime anywhere…on wax or at a show. Joe Budden wouldn’t have to lift a finger or a mic.

  • TheMouseSCOTTY

    on some real u gotta respect a dude who gets his work criticized whether he be nice or not but on some real he is not touchin JOEY when it comes to lyrics..whether yall believe JOEY is washed up or not dude has bars/lyrics and he can go up against anybody..respect to Lil B

  • willyackz

    this lil b kids a faggot. anyone who fucks with soulja boy is a faggot. this kid aint a rapper hes a faggot trying to be a rapper. most rappers nowadays are faggots trying to be rappers. he sucks lyrically and he should be locked in a portable toilet and set on fire

  • Dub

    Dude is confident, I’ll give him that…

    I listened to one of his songs and I swear all it was was “Hoes on my dick cause I look like a _____”

  • CRIM6RAPP

    ^^^WORD

  • CRIM6RAPP

    ^^^SCRAP DAT. I WAZ TRYNA REPLY TO AGREE WIT WAT 619 SAID I JUST HIT THA WRONG BUTTON!

    “He talkin’ bout Budden can’t see him lyrically hahahahahahaha, fuck outta here Lil’ B. A while back my boy was dyin’ laughin’ showin’ me this fool on youtube, and after a couple videos of this fool tryna rap I told him to turn it off because that shit was hurtin’ my ears. This fool wearin’ tight pink v necks and rappin’ the same lines over and over and over again about bein’ a pretty bitch and a based god, and then gettin’ knocked out at his video shoot in Berkely. Gotta be one of the worst rappers in history.”

    ^^^WORD!

  • The Decatur Dictator

    Dude is talking like a girl, ‘he hurt my feelings…” “I was feeling emotional”-NEEEGRO PALEEZE grow some nutz!

    • CRIM6RAPP

      TRU!!!! LOL

  • Golden Logic

    he is simple. eventually the age 15-21 year olds will grow tired of it, because there is no substance. he is making himself a target because he is a beta-male, and he knows there are other beta-males who will be drawn towards it. the shock value has already begun to wane. if u look at his views on worldstar, they are going down. bottom line, its wack.

  • Big Dee

    Young Based God flex 10 armed robberies

    • Golden Logic

      ?? this nigga never even shot a gun til recently. he never robbed anyone. his fans say comments to get a rise out of others. FYI, have u heard “swag od” with soulja boy? if u like that song, or the artists who can create it, ur opinion doesnt matter anyway

  • BULLETS

    THIS NIGGA IS A SKITZO LMAOOOO HE THINKS HE’S BETTER THAN JOE BUDDENS AND THIS IS GOING TO BE FUNNY BECAUSE THESE ARE THE NIGAS THAT SOUTH NIGAS PROMOTE AND THEY’LL ARGUE TOOTH AND NAIL THAT HE’S NICE FUCKING REGION OF RETARDS ……..

  • BULLETS

    AINT THIS THE SAME PUSSY THAT GOT WASHED UP IN HIS INTERVIEW FAGGOT ASS NIGGA AND HE CANT RAP THATS WHY THERES NO SONG STRUCTURE LMAOOOOO MAYBE ANDRE 3000 COULD GET AWAY WITH THAT FREE FLOW OR CURREN$Y BUT LIL B AFTER PRODUCTION YOUR NOT TALENTED

  • GIFT

    this dude sounds like a complete bitch. I could give a fuck how glasses or yayo feel bout this nigga, he is garbage. His interview made absolutely no sense, and it just shows me that the next generation of hiphop ain’t really bringing too much to the table wit fuck booty ass niggas like Lil B. I would actually entertain an interview with Waka Flocka reading hooked on phonics than another bullshit interview wit this ol dumb ass nigga

  • GIFT

    @BULLETS

    LEMME TELL YOU HOMIE, NO NIGGA IN THE SOUTH WOULD VOUCH FOR THIS DOUCHE BAG ASS NIGGA. MATTER FACT, IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS WRITE UP XXL MENTIONED TONY YAYO AS A NIGGA WHO DID VOUCH FOR THIS LIL BITCH, SO DON’T DISRESPECT MY SIDE OF THE MAP WITH THIS LAME, WHEN A NIGGA FROM THE EAST IS THE ONE VOUCHIN FOR THIS FAGGOT. SOUTH RUN SHIT NIGGA AND KNOW THAT. FUCK LIL B AND ANY OTHER NIGGA TALKING DOWN ON THE SOUTH. GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE NIGGA!!!

  • http://www.youtube.com/myBEATSareBASED Nic O

    although Lil B has no chance of ever touching my bitch, i still love his music & consider him a brother. SO IF U DONT LIKE HIM… COOL. why’d u read this then? & GO listen to our music. SWAG

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  • http://Twitter.com/swancarolina SwanCarolina

    I support Lil B to the fullest. I like your music and the dances, and the beats, you a BEAST my Nig**! lol.
    Haters gon be haters! And they must really love you cus they’re over here all over you business. lol. It’s nothing but LOVE BOO.
    I wish you the best and keep doing what you do! Swag, swag, swag… WHOOP!!! #SC

  • Young Black Man

    Listen Closley.. This boy disrespects women. Our strong black afrikan women and you support him. He tell’s them to suck my dick because I’m a bitch and it’s funny to you. Think about your fuckin children growing up supporting this stupid shit. Fuck rap idont care about it. But homosexual shit and you young black men who are the fathers of this planet support this ignorant nigga? Wake The Fuck Up. It’s mainly you the one’s without the father figure supporting this dumb shit. Seriously if you dont grow the fuck up and learn, you might as well kill yourself. What happend to man-hood teaching your suns and daughters right from wrong. What happend to black men standing up for their children and not letting this shit control their heads. It’s not your fault why you’re ignorant but, it’s time for you to wake up. You suppose to appreciate women not call them bitches & hoes man, thats not how us black people go about things. Thats the white-man controlling your head with this homosexual shit. It’s time to make a stand as black people to erase this bullshit from our children minds. If your a real hip hop fan then support Jay Electronica, J Cole, Immortal Technique, Dead Prez, Auseer Duke Of Tiers Fuck Jay Z, Lil B, Lil Wayne, Young Jeezy, Kutchy Mane And All That Bullshit. Lets Conquer this planet again. – Black Power & Hotep

    • waltier

      chill bruh lil b da based god positivity

  • takyla

    man dude yuh sexy as ever hmu

  • waltier

    lil b da based god rawest rapper alive

  • dis shit….

    trollin like a boss
    im pretty sure lil b does this shit just to read the comments of people who take him serious
    you gotta be bout dat based life mah nigga
    stop bloggin bout how lil b sucks