FEATURE: Rick Ross, Under Oath

[Editor’s Note: These are the outtakes to the edited interview that appears in the May 2009 issue of XXL.]

Photography Jonathan Mannion

Photography Jonathan Mannion

XXLMag.com: How did you come up with that line about 50’s baby mama and burning down the house? ’Cause that was the thing that triggered him.

Rick Ross: Most definitely. And what it was, it was a true statement. I was just smoking at home watching the news just like everybody else.

XXL: Did you know he would come back at you with something?

Ross: Of course. That’s why I did it.

XXL: That’s why you did it?

Ross: Of course. You gotta understand this is chess not checkers. You gotta understand a man’s next moves. When a woman is scorned, you have to understand that there’s gonna be a backlash, which is totally fine. I was… As far as him responding, I’m still a little disappointed in the quality of music that’s being released. ’Cause at the end of the day, all the hoopla, you smoke a blunt, forget about it and people wanna put on they headphones and hear some quality. I’m one of the first artists to admit Get Rich or Die Tryin‘ was a classic. But if I turn back the hands of time five years ago, if I knew the dude who did “Many Men” would wear wigs and buy dildos and, you know, attack people that I look at as legends, such as Jadakiss and the LOX and the list could go on…

XXL: So were you just upset with him attacking everybody else and that made you—

Ross: Nah, it’s not that. It’s not a fact about nobody being upset because his last attacks have relatively failed. So it wasn’t about that. It was just about me deciding when I was ready to engage in 50 Cent.

XXL: Why did you go straight for the personal thing that you knew he would react to?

Ross: It’s the truth. His music is wack. Can you repeat the chorus to “Everybody Get Up”? Can you repeat the chorus? It’s nothing personal. It’s just… Enough is enough. Let’s move along. Let’s put on the next niggas that’s doing they thing, know what I’m saying?

XXL: But didn’t you make it personal with that line?

Ross: It could. It depends on how you wanna take it. I don’t know. It’s however the next man take it. I said it.

XXL: Some fans, that’s how they see it.

Ross: Okay, that’s understandable. I said it.

XXL: What kind of feedback are you getting about the 50 beef? Because people I speak to, honestly, they feel like you’re losing… With the cartoons and stuff, he’s funny.

Ross: That’s fine… I mean, look at the sales. Look at the BDS. I don’t have to say it. Look at the response. I mean, we just watched the Grammys. He sold a lot of records, right? How many did he take home? That’s the point I’m trying to make. Where I come from, none of that counts. Your money doesn’t count.

XXL: So nobody’s telling you that they feel like you’re losing?

Ross: Why would anyone say that? If they listen to the music—

XXL: Is there a bias in New York?

Ross: Nah, nah, I love New York. I got a lotta good… I got a lotta strong ties in New York so I never say that. Like I say, the people I touch are maybe a lot less to voice their opinion online.

XXL: In the video [“Kiss My Pinky Ring”] you were in the subway station in Manhattan. Why didn’t you do that in Queens in 50’s territory?

Ross: ’Cause Queens is no longer 50’s territory. I was with a hundred dudes from Queens. Me and Bang Em Smurf finna do a lotta business. The dudes that you saw talking at the end of that clip? Do your homework and find out who that was.

XXL: The other obviously big controversy is the C.O. stuff…

Ross: Right.

XXL: From a fan’s standpoint, they’re looking at it like, why did he just lie about that’s not him in the photo. Now, why should I believe anything he says, you know?

Ross: And that’s fine, too. But I have so many more fans that understand. There’s a lotta people that understand and know and it’s so many gangstas in the world that could vouch for me. But why? I feel it’s unnecessary at this point. I feel any small talk is beneath me. I feel like I came from nothing and became a 10 millionaire and in two albums, I feel I’m the focal point of the industry. And all I could do at this point is smile.

XXL: It kinda affects the music if a fan sees a conflict between, oh he was a correctional officer but he’s talking about this big drug lifestyle that he lived.

Ross: I mean, how do you describe a mobster? How tall are they? How fat are they? What do they do during the daytime? Where do they eat? Where do they go? What do they drive? Do they drive Lambourghinis? I mean, at some point you have to realize I’m doing a lotta things out here. I’m putting my life on the line and I don’t give a fuck. I have no fear of none of these bitch ass niggas. None of these monkeys. I will terminate them. I have no fear. And at some point, my music will… you know, lames won’t. But I’m not tryna convince anybody. I’m doing me.

XXL: The monkey thing kinda bothers me because it’s kind of—

Ross: It’s not anything racial. It’s just the tactics. And that’s what he is. I couldn’t refer to Jay-Z as that. I would never refer to Nas as that. I would never disrespect the legacy of Biggie Smalls as that. But then when I think about the class of a Jay-Z, the class of a Nas, I don’t think I would see them in wigs. I don’t think I would see them. It’s not funny. The jokes on him. He’s the monkey. And that’s what he has to live with.

XXL: Tia, your baby’s mother, she’s been all over the radio trying to expose you and she was saying that you were actually well off and that your mom bought you a house when you got out of high school.

Ross: I mean, then why’d you work for me? Why’d you… what I’m not gonna do is because of who I am and how I was raised, I understand scorned women. It’s perfectly fine, everything she says and I refuse to… Because of who I am, I refuse to disrespect her because of any of that. So I applaud her. I respect her financial gains. And am I upset? No. Do I forgive her? Of course. I apologize to her for everything I’ve done wrong to her. ’Cause I’ve done some wrong things. But as far as the statements she make, we all have to be smarter and realize it’s not true.

XXL: So you’re saying it’s not true that your mom bought you a house and a car?

Ross: I mean, I got 20 cars now. Half of them in my mom’s name now. I have 10 homes now. Half of them in my mom name now. That’s the way it goes. That’s just how it is. As far as bank statements, I mean, Lord forbid, you’re a guy who has a crazy baby mom and you might want a tax shelter. Not saying that’s what I do. You might want an IRA. Not saying that’s what I do. But it’s called trying to live your life. That’s what I’m doing.

XXL: Have you talked to Tia since she’s been on the radio and stuff like that?

Ross: Yeah, she called me. I have a son with her. I don’t take that personal.

XXL: How do you feel about her exposing all the details of your relationship?

Ross: Listen, baby. Lemme explain something to you. Baby, I didn’t hear it. It didn’t entertain me. But what I do wanna know is… I wanna thank them because the majority of the fans are not listening to them. They just wanna hear about me. That’s what it basically boils down to. So whatever you’re doing, I applaud it. Generate income. That’s what I’m about. Number One. I don’t have any problems with that. Once money’s made, then I may be interested. Other than that, God bless you baby. I hope he don’t burn your house down.-Clover Hope

  • killa

    look at him doding all of the questions and making up shit… you aint got 10 houses or cars… and Nas don’t like you, he just collaborated cuz yall label partners.

    • http://www.myspace.com/maxprofit Max Profit

      I agree. That was a label move for Nas, I still don’t respect him for that.

      I didn’t even read the article FUCK RICK ROSS
      and everything he stands for!

      • triple c

        fuc ya man ross is the hottest rapper out right now depper than rappppppp in yo face pussy

    • http://www.uckyou.com fuckoy

      The more beef these two faggots throw at each other the better for their pocketbooks. Each interview they do with a big magazine is cash, the publicity is cash, the beef videos are cash, the curly videos are cash, the whole thing is about cash. if you even think about rick ross and 50 cent you should just think of that as a 5 dollar withdrawal from your ATM (black people i know you dont have these), but the math is the same. 1.50 goes to ross, 1.50 goes to 50 cent, and the other 2 bucks goes to the fucking white men behind the scenes.
      keep fighting you monkey fucks, the white man needs more money….

  • The_Truth

    ***I’m not at ALL a Rick Ross fan. . .but he creates the most comments out of anyone.

  • Enlightened

    The interviewer in this article is definitely on 50 side. That being said, Ross still won’t come all the way clean. Stop being phony Ross.

    He said it right, you’ve been dropping better music, but really that’s by default because 50 haven’t been dropping nothing…but I think that’s cause 50 scared for people to say it ain’t no good.

    At the end of the day, this shit has gotten corny and I think both of them niggas are losing.

  • FORTY

    AYE yall read this shit please!! Not once did that nigga answer one question that was thrown at him…..”YES OR NO” QUESTION!!!

    XXL: So you’re saying it’s not true that your mom bought you a house and a car?

    Ross: I mean, I got 20 cars now. Half of them in my mom’s name now. I have 10 homes now. Half of them in my mom name now. That’s the way it goes. That’s just how it is. As far as bank statements, I mean, Lord forbid, you’re a guy who has a crazy baby mom and you might want a tax shelter. Not saying that’s what I do. You might want an IRA. Not saying that’s what I do. But it’s called trying to live your life. That’s what I’m doing.

  • Sven

    To sum it up:

    Rick ross has fans, makes money, believes he’s winning the beef in spite of the fact that everyone’s saying the exact opposite, he doesn’t give a shit, he’ll terminate them and he has no fear. In other words, phony.

    He didn’t give a clear answer to:

    The officer ricky part, mom buying him stuff.
    What he said was:

    “I’m living my life and doing me, with my 10 million”. Well ok, but aren’t we all? Except we do it without 10 million and lying about our background.

  • GI JOE

    Im tired of this clown. He tries to seem smart, but comes off as ignorant. He lies so much, you cant even believe what he’s saying anymore.

  • http://urbaninjection.com tjloco

    What the hell! everyone see that they both poking insults at each other!
    rick ross lost from the start but then it seems 50 has got himself one of the longest battles against another mc and he still going at dude and has not clearly won this off!

    Rick ross got 20 Cars and 10 houses???? I thought he said in his tune he had 50 cars, he is fabricated!!lol

  • niggafrommemphis

    rick,u are one flodgin muthafucka.you don’t know your ass from a hole in a ground.to all who don’t know,owning 10 houses don’t mean owning 10 HOUSES,it means property,probably some shit in a rundown neighborhood.and in todays’ climate,10 million dollars ain’t shit,especially to a boss and kingpen,the more u talk the more ignorant u sound.good luck with the album tho and remember,people like 50,jay and diddy don’t have to make albums to eat,so u better watch who u fuckin with in the future.

  • K.ing

    Why can’t he answer a question???

    scary ass was scared to come to queens… bang em is deported he can’t save you…

  • rrahha

    “we don’t believe you, you need more people!”
    “now your son has to grow up like THIS IS MY DAD?!”
    “i hate a liar more than a thief because a thief is only after my salary, a liar is after my reality?

    officer ricky….STFU! haha

  • Truth

    damn could XXL be anymore on Interscope’s dick

    the interviewer was obviously biased in favor of 50

    I don’t like Curtis or Ross but wow at least try and show some journalistic integrity next time

  • OPA LOCKA FL

    DAMM HE STILL HAVENT LEARNED TO HONEST, HE MAKES GOOD MUSIC BUT DAMM THIS FAT FUCK IS A LIAR,CANT RESPECT HIM NO MORE, HE WENT IN ON TRICK DADDY HARD BECAUSE OF THAT PRISON GUARD QUESTION

  • http://xxlmag.com bjenks7

    listen……..it seems to me people still cant understand that this man is cut from a differant cloth. PERIOD. Does anyone know who kenneth boobie face williams is?…no….I figured you would’nt. Ross has ties that he could never speak about…outside of music he is a real street dude…they ran carol city. google it! kbw was a drug overlord. period. ross is still in the streets..you feel me? 50 cent is done…his run is over. 50 cant got to miami with out the police around him. im tired of peole disrespecting him.

    • aybay

      he worked under boobie, so he’s real. if you’re from CC or miami you understand that. these niggas from outta town tho think cause he worked as a CO (which a lot of niggas do to deal to the prisons) hes fake. look up kenneth williams. hes honestly one of americas most wanted, and ricky was right under him. dont tell me hes fake, you internet niggas aren’t getting the true story. fact of the matter is, ross cant tell you the true story cause a lottt of ppl would go to jail if he did.

      • Enlightened

        Shut the fuck up with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        I’m tired of that lame ass justification.

        Nigga, I can give you the names of some niggas (which I never would do) who were my best friends, groomsmen in my wedding who you can “google”! What the fuck does that prove? I watched my best friend get captured on Court TV after a month long manhunt – and I guarantee that shit is still somewhere on Court TV website

        Yes, I’m a real nigga but I HAVE A MASTERS DEGREE AND I’M SITTING AT MY DESK JOB RIGHT NOW and I have killers and dealers as my best friends all my life.

        That don’t make me no killer and it don’t make me no drug dealer.

        RICK ROSS IS NOT BOOBIE WILLIAMS.

  • Roccifer?

    Man look

    ive always said, judge a artist by his interviews to see who he is as a man..

    and this dude is a phoney..

    i dont like plies music, but he’s an intelligant mutha f’er..

    ross is the opposite

  • What’s Updog?

    Ross: I mean, I got 20 cars now. Half of them in my mom’s name now. I have 10 homes now. Half of them in my mom name now. That’s the way it goes. That’s just how it is. As far as bank statements, I mean, Lord forbid, you’re a guy who has a crazy baby mom and you might want a tax shelter. Not saying that’s what I do. You might want an IRA. Not saying that’s what I do. But it’s called trying to live your life. That’s what I’m doing.

    Where’s Ron Mex when you need him?

  • http://www.fuckyourbitchintheass.com SMartGUy

    The more beef these two faggots throw at each other the better for their pocketbooks. Each interview they do with a big magazine is cash, the publicity is cash, the beef videos are cash, the curly videos are cash, the whole thing is about cash. if you even think about rick ross and 50 cent you should just think of that as a 5 dollar withdrawal from your ATM (black people i know you dont have these), but the math is the same. 1.50 goes to ross, 1.50 goes to 50 cent, and the other 2 bucks goes to the fucking white men behind the scenes.
    keep fighting you monkey fucks, the white man needs more money….

  • http://www.fuckyou.com smart guy

    The more beef these two faggots throw at each other the better for their pocketbooks. Each interview they do with a big magazine is cash, the publicity is cash, the beef videos are cash, the curly videos are cash, the whole thing is about cash. if you even think about rick ross and 50 cent you should just think of that as a 5 dollar withdrawal from your ATM (black people i know you dont have these), but the math is the same. 1.50 goes to ross, 1.50 goes to 50 cent, and the other 2 bucks goes to the fucking white men behind the scenes.
    keep fighting you monkey fucks, the white man needs more money….

  • http://fucjahdksjhdc.sioudsh.com fuckyour mother

    The more beef these two faggots throw at each other the better for their pocketbooks. Each interview they do with a big magazine is cash, the publicity is cash, the beef videos are cash, the curly videos are cash, the whole thing is about cash. if you even think about rick ross and 50 cent you should just think of that as a 5 dollar withdrawal from your ATM (black people i know you dont have these), but the math is the same. 1.50 goes to ross, 1.50 goes to 50 cent, and the other 2 bucks goes to the fucking white men behind the scenes.
    keep fighting you monkey fucks, the white man needs more money….

  • http://xxl gside

    He don’t understand what he has gotten himself into people don’t have a problem with him because he said some then about 50 I got a problem with him because his a fake. So he gave people like me who hate fake ass rapper’s and a nigga like 50 cent a common enemy that’s it.He just dum ass hell good music sell it self. People always told me you can’t get money and beef no none told Ross.

  • Stanley

    NOriega still owe Ross them favors?

  • tommy gunz

    where’s all the rick false love?? LOL

    finally people are recognizin the fraudulence of this lame…u aint gotta be a 50 fan to see the fakeness

    CAROL CITY CONFESSIONS PART 2= WATCH AN ACTOR PER-FEFT HIS CRAFT

    • http://xxlmag.com the brown

      Yo! LOL, I thought I just made that “Rick False” shit up, but I guess folks been using that, huh? Ya’ll been sayin’ “Fart Joe”, too? Cause that shit is funny!

  • murK

    isn’t bang’em smurf deported?

  • moneyboy

    50is snitch rick ross is a cop hell they both need 2 work with each other who knows they might become best of friends one day

  • http://xxlmag.com the brown

    Yo! Rick Ross is a BUSTER! He’s the most fake ass, shit makin’-up ass mofo with a record deal right now (no disrepect, Fart Joe). And just because he’s got a deal doesn’t make him anything. Fuck 50, too, but I wish he would end his career because I’m sick of looking at his “motorcycle monkey-from “The Wiz”" lookin’ ass. Yeah Fif is actin like a monkey, but you IS a monkey, Rick False.

  • chillin mayne

    rick ross oh lawd…this cat comes off as one large fradulant corn ball..he claim to b a mobster a boss of sorts, yet he says if tia go off and make money off tellin lies and slandering his name, its all love, go 4 it, he applauds dat??…DA FUCC??..aint no real gangsta gone stand by and applaud sumbody slandering their name, get da fucc outta here..
    rick ross is childish, “oh im gangsta, jus ask so and so”…dat shit aint cool
    das why we got lil kids runnin around wantin to pop guns, and cappin mufuccas for wearin a certain color…GROW THA FUCC UP…
    rick ross, stand for sumtin real, u real confused rite now, and errbody dat read dis article can tell….

  • corlione39

    FUCC YEA HE WUZ AVOIDN THA ?’z LIKE A DUDE AVOIDZ A FATT BITCH N A CLUB!!! SORRY U N UR NAPPY COOCAA BUGG BEARD IZ BOOT DUN N THA RAP GAME IF HE SAY HE CONNECTD LIKE HE IZ THEN MOVE ON N DU BETTA N THA GAME!!!

  • Sway-z

    50 ain’t dropping that much music because niggas forget he’s still signed to Eminem. No matter how much money 50 got, he still got 2 albums under that deal so if Eminem’s trying to come out, of course he’s gonna tell his artist to fall the fuck back, and that’s what it is. Rick Ross ain’t got nothing to do with that, all he doing is dodging questions….still

  • DADE COUNTY 305

    THIS FAT NIGGA LIVES IN LONG LAKE RANCHES IN DAVIE,FL. 15MINS NORTH OF MIAMI. I KNOW 4 NFL NIGGAZ THAT LIVES IN THERE. FAKE ASS ROSS DONT HAVE THE BIGGEST MODLE HOME IN THERE. ALL FOUR OF THEM NFL NIGGAZ CRIBS ARE WAAAAAY BIGGER THAN FAKE ROSS SHIT. LETS SAY IF 50 DID BURN THE HOUSE DOWN. THAT MAKES FAKE ROSS A FUCKIN DRY SNITCH!!!! FAT NIGGA DODGE THE QUESTIONS LIKE REGGIS BUSH GOT MOVES. NIGGA WE NEVER BELIEVED U! ALL THE 305 KNOW UR ASS IS FAKER THAN A 4 DOLLAR BILL. 50 U NEED TO SIGN MR.305 BETTER KNOWN AS T DOUBLE D, AKA TRICK DADDY DOLLAR! NOW THATS A REAL NIGGA! I KNOW JAY-Z BE LAUGHIN AT THIS FAKE NIGG. LIKE I SAID NIGGAZ KNOW WHERE U LIVE NIGGA. LONG LAKE RANCHES… WE DONT LIKE RATS AND FAKE DOPE BOYZ!

  • Dark vanilla

    1) you said tia was your made then you said you still love her???

    2) u said 50 gave you a look then you said it was time for you to speak on it…

    3) u said u wasn’t a c.o and jumped on that white dj… now (for an magazine cover) you admit to being a c.o…

    this is why 50 is the winner… he made you change your lie fat boy….

    nigga dick ridin game after he dissed yo fat ass…*-+

  • Dark vanilla

    ***maid***

  • k.ing

    U FAT FUCK!!!

    KILL YO SELF….

    JA RULE HOMIE??? AND I DON’T KNOW THE HOOKS TO NONE OF YO SO CALLED HITS BUT HUSTLIN

  • K.ing

    he worked under boobie, so he’s real. if you’re from CC or miami you understand that. these niggas from outta town tho think cause he worked as a CO (which a lot of niggas do to deal to the prisons) hes fake. look up kenneth williams. hes honestly one of americas most wanted, and ricky was right under him. dont tell me hes fake, you internet niggas aren’t getting the true story. fact of the matter is, ross cant tell you the true story cause a lottt of ppl would go to jail if he did.

    WHO????

    BITCH STOP DICK RIDIN…. YOU CAN’T EVEN BELIEVE THIS FAKE SHIT…

  • Screwmatic

    RICK ROSS: I feel any small talk is beneath me. I feel like I came from nothing and became a 10 millionaire and in two albums, I feel I’m the focal point of the industry. And all I could do at this point is smile.

    SCREWMATIC: Wasn’t da same nigga dat was talkin’ about he bein’ a big time drug trafica in Miami?
    Now he just talkin’ about a record sales, whut a fake nigga, man. I knew from da beginning of his carrer dat Rick Ross wasn’t no muthafuckin’ BOSS, TRILL but a C.O. ass nigga just happend to rap not even lyricist.

  • Mike

    Deeper Than Rap 4/21/09…. The Dopest Album of the Year Thus Far 10 times better than kiss shit and I fuck with kiss.. Trust me .. And sells don’t mattter by steet cred no more cuz if it did C-Murder Would go Diamond… Smell me ??

    • Dark vanilla

      ONLY WIGGAZ SAY STREET CRED….

      LET ME HELP YOU OUT REPTABLE IS A BETTER WORD…

      AND UGK IS THE BEST ALBUM OF THE YEAR SO FAR… TRILL CATS WHO REALLY LIVED IT..;.

  • Enlightened

    @ BJENKS7 AND AYBAY

    Shut the fuck up with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I’m tired of that lame ass justification.

    Nigga, I can give you the names of some niggas (which I never would do) who were my best friends, groomsmen in my wedding who you can “google”! What the fuck does that prove? I watched my best friend get captured on Court TV after a month long manhunt – and I guarantee that shit is still somewhere on Court TV website

    Yes, I’m a real nigga but I HAVE A MASTERS DEGREE AND I’M SITTING AT MY DESK JOB RIGHT NOW and I have killers and dealers as my best friends all my life.

    That don’t make me no killer and it don’t make me no drug dealer.

    RICK ROSS IS NOT BOOBIE WILLIAMS.

  • SOUTHSIDE A-TOWN

    i still fux w/ ross. regardless.

  • k.ing

    ^^^^^^ because the A don’t stand for shit…. that’s why pimp c was on yo head….

    u niggas support fake shit… R.I.P pimp C

  • http://www.xxlmag.com damion

    Church, I still fuc with Ross. His shyt is more entertaining now than 50. Plus, It’s Deeper Than Rap!

  • tommy gunz

    ^^^^yo…all y’all that say u still fuck with rawse need to listen to that pimp c interview…

    I’ll paraphrase: if (you’re in the south) and you want hip hop to stay in the south (as it has been the past 4 years)

    “we’re gonna have to start cleanin out our own closet–nobody gon’ do it for us”(you) aka we need a systematic elimination of all fake rappers feedin blatant lies and misinformation to the children that listen to this shit as the soundtrack to their lives and their justification to hustle dope

  • Genral

    Celebrity is DEAD.

    If you listen to the music – he’s winning.

    As for dodging questions I think he answered well.

    Do your think – the track with nas was bananas! And as for 50, just listen to his music… I haven’t since 2002 (apart from i get money)

  • SOUTHSIDE A-TOWN

    On the CD, he admits to being a correctional officer on the track “Valley of Death” and he raps, “Only lived once and I got two kids/ And for me to feed them, I’ll get two gigs…he raps. “I’ll shovel s**t, I’ll C.O./ So we can bow our heads and pray over the meatloaf.”

  • mizeryluvkompany

    lol..fuck fat ass ross, u aint got shit on 50, i dont even like 50 but id fuck with his music b4 urs anyday, ur trash and a cop, u fat fuck! fuck u, ross aint no boss, well maybe at the d.o.c. he is,….lol…wish pac was still here, he’d smash on ur phony ass!!