Havoc
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What did Havoc really mean when he called out T.I. and the South last month? The Mobb Deep producer sparks The Kush with xxlmag.com and airs it out.

Once deemed “infamous” for his signature brand of melancholy boom bap, Havoc’s notoriety, as of late, is mostly the result of two words: “Fuck T.I.” Last month, in an interview on Sirius satellite radio’s Shade 45 channel, the Queens native chided T.I. and the South for their perceived arrogance. “Fuck T.I., right? Yeah, fuck T.I.,” Hav said. “He’s a good artist. I love him to death as an artist, but he can’t fuck with M.O.B.B. I don’t got no problems with the South, but them niggas need to get off their own dick.” Needless to say, Hollywood Hav’s comments came off as pretentious, especially since Mobb Deep’s G-Unit debut, 2006′s Blood Money, sold less than 300,000 copies. Nevertheless, controversy isn’t stopping Havoc from releasing his long awaited debut solo album, The Kush. Following in Prodigy’s footsteps – who released his solo LP, Return of the Mac, on KOCH Records earlier this year – Hav went the independent route for The Kush, joining forces Nature Sounds Records. XXLMag.com spoke with the producer extraordinaire about his new album, the disappointment of Blood Money and whether or not he’s hating on the South.

How would you characterize the sound of your new album, The Kush? Is it similar to previous Mobb Deep efforts?
The Kush is that smoked-out New York sound. It’s an album that just came together through chillin’ and smokin’ in the studio with my people. The same thing you might expect from a Mobb Deep album, you can expect from The Kush.

Was it different recording your first solo album without Prodigy in the fold?
It wasn’t done intentionally to leave out Prodigy. We all just need to do our own thing sometimes. He was in the studio the same time I was in the studio. I had a little bit of time, so I was like, Fuck it, let me just put something out real quick.

Were you inspired by Prodigy’s success with his independent album, Return of the Mac?
I encourage that kind of stuff. As an artist, you wanna be consistent. But you also want to give people different things. You can’t always rhyme on a Havoc beat. He’s not married to me as an artist. He gotta do this thing and Alchemist is my homey, so most of the time, I was in there anyway, judging it with them. I prefer to let him do him and I’m proud of what they did.

How did this deal with Nature Sounds Records for The Kush come about?
It came through a friend, Tragedy Khadafi. I’d never even heard of the label and I’m always the type of person where I don’t want to follow the flock. I wanna go in my own direction. The situation, to me, is the same on any label. Independent or major, they’re all labels. You gotta stay on top of them. You get your promotion money, your video money, you do your promo runs and do whatever you can to get it started. They’re a small label, but they’re gonna work their way up like the rest of the big independents did.

Do you have more creative freedom making an album outside of the G-Unit brand?
To tell you the truth, there wasn’t no creative differences with G-Unit. There may have been like one or two songs [on Blood Money] that maybe I wasn’t feeling, but it wasn’t even an issue because [50 Cent] really gave us a lot of control [over] the project. On The Kush, I worked with Tragedy Khadafi and since he’s my mentor and has been for a while, I had similar freedoms.

Blood Money was released to a lot of expectations, but some fans and critics felt it didn’t live up to the hype. Since then, you and P haven’t addressed the criticism. Why not?
I don’t go into the studio with my mindset like, This is what I’m gonna say about this situation and this is what I’m going to say about that. It was more like, whatever vibe I got in the studio, that’s what I was going to say. On this album [The Kush], I’m not really airing out any kind of situation that maybe fans want to hear ’cause I don’t get fan mail like that. But I do hear people saying, “Why’d they sign to G-Unit?” In my heart, I feel like it was a good move, so I don’t even feel like I have to address it.

Does it upset you that 50 vented his frustrations with Blood Money‘s disappointing sales and the crew not wearing his G-Unit apparel?
Nah, I’m not upset at that at all. That’s how he feels and that’s what he saw, so that’s what he’s going to say. So if I don’t have on a pair of G-Unit sneakers, I know he’s not talking about me. He’s talking about everyone on a whole. He’s just trying to say if you’re down with a crew, support your crew. If I was him, I’d feel the same way.

What about his criticism over Blood Money‘s disappointing SoundScan numbers?
I mean, numbers don’t lie, so if he loses money with any kind of artist, it is what it is. If he says he lost money with Mobb Deep, at the end of the day, he lost money with Mobb Deep. I can’t be mad at him. All I can do is continue to make my music.

During an interview on Shade 45 last month, you said, “Fuck T.I.,” in response to the South’s popularity in hip-hop. Why did you call out T.I.?
When I made that comment, it came out the wrong way and people took it out of [con]text. My issue is that New York needs to get it together. The problem is not T.I. and the South, at all. They’re making beautiful music. They need to be looked at like a reflection of us, like, “We used to do it like that.” Right now, I’m like, “Come on, what’s going on here?”

Do you regret making that comment then?
I regret that people took it the wrong way, but I don’t regret bringing certain issues up. I admit, I was a little juiced up when I said it, but anyone that knows me knows I don’t have no hate for the South. I’m not a hater. I could appreciate a lot of energy that they’re coming out with. I don’t make that kind of music, but I can appreciate it.

Have you seen T.I. since then?
I actually saw T.I. at the Screamfest [tour]. We gave each other a pound and kept it moving. I got love for T.I. It’s just a friendly competition thing.

  • zacreole

    I think P’s style of public communication is starting to rub off on Havoc. Oh well. Get your name out their & keep folks talkin’ about ‘cha by any means…

  • Dirty South

    Lil dude is trash

  • http://www.xxxlmag.com Southboy

    That’s what it is then.

  • THE SOUTH

    Can’t ever come to the dirty partna.

  • DUB

    on the real… good stuff. this dude gave some straight answers and is real about it all. he spoke the truth about them soundscan numbers and didnt back down. ive been bangin with the mobb from the get-go and they spit fire. drop the g-unit trash and get back to that gutta shit.
    dipset soooowoooo
    *get a picture of my pool in the background*

  • http://xxlmagazine.com incognegro

    HES GOT NERVES T.I. WILL EAT HIM UP LIKE HE SMOKED A BOWL AND GOT THE MUNCHIES THATS REAL.

  • Yenadryl

    He should aired out 50. 50 is steady making underhanded comments about Mobb.

  • http://www.myspace.com/crillzbeatz Crillz Beatz

    Crillz Beatz

    http://www.myspace.com/crillzbeatz

    Need Beatz?

    Get @ Me

    New Year New Money! Let’s Get It…

  • WE DEEP LIKE MOBB

    TI AINT EATING NOBODY UP…LOOK HOW SKINNY THE HOMO IS IN THE FIRST PLACE IT LOOKS LIKE HE HASN’T ATE SHIT IN MONTHS. MOBB GOT CLASSICS TI DONT.

  • Hollywood Hustler

    Havoc is the Mets of this Rap shit.

  • Rockcity

    How can ppl take “Fuck T.I” the wrong way? unless he a homo and meant i wanna fuck T.I. Havoc is a bitch if u said dat shit u said it, dont try and save face now, what a bitch ass nigga, i hate when niggas do shit like that.

  • http://xxlmag.com kenney

    Now hes tryin 2 play it down now,oh bitch ass all that hatin he was doin

  • king equality victorious

    I love some of that dirty south jeezy ugk ti outcast ect ect but some of the shit is very ignorant yall dont see we got a black man running for president they trying there best to make us look like ass backward people and some of the shit that they let into the mainstream is doing a good job at that . thats why kanye outsold 50 its an out poor we all aint about selling drugs and keeping a loaded weapon its alot of black folks thats getting it the right why we just put so much focus on negativity and thats not even entirely our fault look at the news it programs us to want to see and hear drama these artist need to stop selling their souls and make good music if niggas got so much paper distribute and own their own shit so they dont got to sell out to the record labels

  • Bronxbred

    Stop playin’ nice NYC. The majority of NY artists feel like they are more talented than artist’s from the South or anywhere else for that matter. Due to the fact that NY has lost commercial supremacy in selling unit’s to the South, cats are pissed. When NY had to share the spotlight with Cali, they responded with the same type of criticism. Only until Ice Cube, Dr. Dre and Snoop made undeniable, classic music did NY grudgingly give them their props. It will be the same with the South. Until Southern artists other than OutKast, Luda or Scarface make timeless, classic albums that can be played in any era, the South will continue to be considered “less than talented” by NY and the West Coast. Ultimately, their are talented and wack artists from every city and region. Each city and region has a unique history and has different values as to what constitutes “good music”. At the end of the day, no matter where you are from or what style of Hip Hop you prefer, this culture has given countless people opportunities to create businesses and provide economic opportunities that previously did not exist. No one should “hate” on that.

  • Old school king

    OK here is my problem with Havoc.. He is constantly dissing everyone in the game and then kissing their ass in the same sentence.. so far i can remember off the top of my head, Kanye West, Saigon, TI, the south in general, and who am i forgetting?? his favorite line is ‘fuck that nigga he can eat a dick, but i love him to death tho, he’s a wonderful artist, but i’m better, but fuck him, but he’s great’.. what kind of shit is that??

  • WE LIKE TI

    Mobb Deep is deeeep in beef; from TI, to the South, to Saigon to Jigga, to Tupac in the grave….oh man, can’t forget that Hav blasted Kanye two days ago too…wow-what men will do to sell a couple records

  • http://www.xxlmag.com EReal

    Have any of yall actually listened to Blood Money?
    Cause I skip MAYBE one track, thats a good record. People are just haters. They dont even give the music a chance cause they arent music fans, they’re wanna be rappers or wanna be entourage members forreal.

    Listen to the music. Dont be programmed by the haternet.

  • CopKillahQueens

    EReal,
    I second that emotion.

  • INFAMOUS

    c’mon y’all, I don’t think hav got a problem with T.I., he got a problem with people makin money off “crank dat dance” and “throw some d’s on my report card bs”…

  • marc

    MOBB USED TO BE NICE But now since they’ve become SELL OUTS AFTER JOININ G-Unit that nigga needa shut his mouth about the south to bcuz niggas take that shit personal and he’ll be gettin
    fucked up instead of saigon

  • C

    In the words of Bishop in Juice ” This Nigga’s scared” of the South

  • therealwayno

    F*** everybody at xxlmag.com. I love your site, but you can all eat a d***.

    Don’t take it the wrong way. You guys are actually good at what you do.

  • Fire aka LOL Silencer

    Havoc+Prodigy=Mobb Deep
    Mobb Deep=overall joke
    Havoc needs to shut up and quit running his mouth. Must be trying to imitate 50 Cent.

  • SWAG

    LMOA this lil nigga havoc said fuck TI…then he has the nerve to say people took it the wrong way…come on hav…how were we supposed to take that…maby he meant he wants to fuck TI…he just said fuck kanye the other day too…I guess we took that wrong also…mobb deep is corny…nobody listens to them clowns anymore…these guys have no fans outside of NY…quit rappin already…lol I didnt realize how small mobb deep was until i saw them in the booth on rap city…them dudes like 4ft small…they couldnt even reach the mic lol…i dont believe none of that thug gangsta shit they rap about…LOL son, dun, dunny lol…fuck outta here.

  • http://www.myspace.com/thegptboys titolopez1

    HAVOC IM COMING FOR YOUR ASS!!!! U CAN TAKE THAT HOWEVER U WANT IT, CUZ WE ALL SAW WHAT SAIGON DID 2 THE ‘MOB’. ANYWAY, ANYBODY THATS MAD AT THIS, DONT WORRY, THIS IS TITO LOPEZ OF THE G.P.T BOYS (www.myspace.com/thegptboys AND IM BOUT TO MAKE A RECORD TO EXPOSE THE LIL BIT OF HAVOC LEFT TO EXPOSE AFTER JAY AND THEIR BOSS WAS DONE. FIRST U DISS THE SOUTH, WHERE IM FROM, THEN U DISS A REAL ARTIST LIKE KANYE BECUZ….Y? U’RE DONE MAN. FROM EVERYBODY IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF AMERICA, FUCK GEORGE BUSH, FUCK THEM CRACKAZ IN JENA, AND FUCK MOBB DEEP!!!

  • TRST

    I CAN HONESTLY SAY HAV’S ALBUM IS BETTER THAN HELL RELL’S AND 50′S.
    RELL & 50′S ALBUMS GOT A FEW HITS IN EM THEN THEY GET BORING, BUT HAV’S ALBUM IS AN OVERALL GOOD LP TO JUST CHILL AND LISTEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
    CANT WAIT FOR THE NEXT “REAL” MOBB DEEP ALBUM.

  • NycE

    F*** everybody at xxlmag.com. I love your site, but you can all eat a d***.

    Don’t take it the wrong way. You guys are actually good at what you do.
    ^^^
    classic.hav is delusional

  • http://www.xxlmag.com noid

    hav is sraight up.he said what he wanted when he wanted.ti would never have the balls.he dont even want it with luda and i’m sure as fuck he dont want it with the mobb!!!!

  • iLL

    I used to listen to Mobb but it was waaay back in the day. I never really saw Hav as a good m.c. I figured he was on the albums cause he was a close friend. And now he wants to put out a solo album. Cmon Dun Dun (lol). You not m.c. And please only tour the northern states cause you gets no play below the mason dixon line.

  • Jason Murk

    Havoc and TI should fight… seeing that they’re both in the “super extra tiny mini flyweight” weight class and all.

    I bet it would be like watching a midget fight a leprechaun…

  • Rezzin

    plain and simple havoc wont survive on his own and same with prodigy they both need each other to make good or decent music at that

  • Danny

    Artist: Havoc
    Title: Who want it?

    …. I guess just under 4,000 people… lol….

  • BLOCK MUZIK

    SAY MAN..FUCK MOBB DEEP… THESE NIGGAZ LIKE EVERYOTHER NIGGAZ OUTTA NY IS HATING THA SOUTH RIGHT NOW KUZ WE HOLDING IT DOWN..YEA THERE IS A LOT OF BULLSHIT OUT THERE FROM THA SOUTH..BUT WHEN NEW YORK HAD THA BALL THEY HAD BULLSHIT TOO..LIKE MOBB DEEP, MASE, CAMRON…SHIT MIMS IS THA ONLY NIGGA KEEPING YA’LL ALIVE.. 50 GOT BEAT BY A LOUIE VUTTON DON? C’MON.. HAVOC IS A BITCH AN SAIGON IS THA TRUTH… HE GONNA BRING YA’LL BACK.DOWN HERE IN TEXAS WE WALK IT HOW WE TALK IT, SCREAM IT LIKE WE MEAN IT..AN HAVOC’S MOUTH IS WRITING CHECKS HIS ASS KAN’T KASH. DON’T SAY SOMETHING DISRESPECTFUL AN THEN SAY I LOVE THEM..BUT! YOU FAKE AN YA BOOTY BUDDY P IS WEAK AS FUCK TOO..LOL PAC KILLED YA’LL A LONG TIME AGO..DON’T ONE YOU NIGGAZ GOT SICKLE CELL OR SOMETHING…YA’LL NIGGAZ IS 4 FOOT NOTHING PUSSIES THAS WHY YA’LL MOB DEEP..

  • SOUTHERNBREED

    havoc taking his words back!
    isn’t that why 50 kicked game out of the unit?
    Like i said time and time again,the reason why the south is winning right now is because,we have more then one sound!
    up north,everybody is either a drug dealer,stick up kid,drug lord,mafia,the mob or gangsta!
    we got snap music,crunk music,get to it music,street music and trap music!
    and we work with each other.
    we put our differences aside and make music!
    new york need to work with each other!
    i love new york music to(meth is my nigga)but, change up ya style!
    jay-z saw that and that’s why he started working with timbaland,the neptunes,ludacris,t.i.,young jeezy,rick ross,outkast,juvenile,UGK,slim thug and a whole lot more southern rappers and producers!
    ohh yeah,FUCK HAVOC,FUCK PRODIGY,FUCK ALCHEMIST!

  • http://yahoo southern gangsta

    fuck all u niggaz hatin on da south. dont say fuck the south,… fuck wit da south and see exactly what will happen. DICKSUCKIN ASS NIGGAS

  • http://MINDSTATELA HELTAH SIN SAY

    I AM A BIG FAN OF THE MOBB BUT THIS CD FROM HAV IS ALL ASS IT IS STAIGHT UP SHIT IM GLAD I BURNED IT, BIG DISAPOINTMENT

  • Hova

    Havoc = next rapper dead /
    for shooting off at the mouth fo shit he shouldnt have said/
    dont these niggas got sickacell or something
    R.I.P 2 PAC

  • tank

    fuck this lil nigga but tha south dont deal with lames see in ny he was problaly something but in tha dirty south we dont play dat. knuckle up havoc and stop running ur mouth like a bitch!!!

  • tank

    who in da hell is this havoc never heard of him in tha streets see lames make me sick running their mouth but scared to knuckle up.see us in tha south didnt run to the north when racism was happening we stayed right here and dealt with it so homie before u start poppin off at tha grill man up!!!!!

  • CHICAGO PaPii

    Mobb Deep don’t matter to Nobody outside of Queens, not even New York cuz it’s Negroids in New York who don’t listen to his music. He is just hating cuz he is washed-up and Supa Wack,he is gettin dissed by his own Boss(Fishy Scent) and now he wanna diss T.I. who is the guy who dissed Tony Yayo so hilariously at the BET Awards!!!

  • gon pucons

    didn’t this dude go like double styrofoam

  • Caine

    Dude is a straight sucka! First off, how u gone sign to a nigga dat dissed you on more than one occasion, then turn around and tattoo HIS crew on your body??? Then onc u flop, da nigga disses u again??? Then u turn around and start some shit wit a whole region like New York got yo back. Well as ya’ll say, “Nah Son” it ain’t even poppin like dat. Next you say some shit about a nigga then take it back??? Dats some gay shit. I guess he really did mean He wanna “fuck TI”. Fuckin lames…

  • robblowe

    you south niggaz is nothing but a reflection of the north or should i say new york period.thats where hip hop started.everthing you niggaz do we birthed

  • http://myspace.com/skrooge skrooge

    quit hatin on the south, how you gone get mad at them niggaz cause you ain’t movin no units, and i fuxx wit mobb deep i buy they albums and the whole nine but you hatin my nigga, i gotta call a spade a spade, i ain’t takin it outta of context you said what you said, you hatin bottom line!!!

  • http://www.pocketcasting.com Molo

    The restrictions posed by the medium allowed for Havoc to respond, because the size of the industry keeps either increasing or decreasing. I’m not hating, i’m around the south but not really a basher. I think everything boils down to what you hear. If your soundscan is down please refuse.

  • soulja boy dont tellem

    DUN, DUNNY ,OR WHATEVA MOBBPHONICS YALL NIGGAZ IS USIN NOWADAYZ, YOUR CAREER HAS BEEN OVER FOR FIVE YEARS NOW,STOP IT UR KILLIN ME, DID CURTIS PUT U UP TO DIS? IS THAT G UNIT WAR MACHINE GEARIN UP FOR ANOTHER PUBLICITY STUNT? IT SEEMS LIKE ITS ALWAYZ THE WACK RAPPER IN THE GROUP WITH NO SKILLS WHATSO EVER TO COME OPEN HIS MOUTH AND STICK HIS FOOT IN IT. ILL GIVE PRODIGY HIS PROPS AND THATS WHERE IT STOPS, BECAUSE FRANKLY WHOEVER BOUGHT A MOBB DEEP CD JUS TO LISTEN TO HAVOC AND AS FOR HATIN DOWN SOUTH YALL OTHER AREAS NEED TO STOP. READ ME LOUD AND CLEAR ” YALL ARENT SELLIN CUZ YALL ARE TO BUSY BATTLING EACH OTHER, AND NOT MAKING MUSIKK”

  • KOMADY

    Ok, it’s official, Havoc is one bitter, jealous MOFO with an attitude to match. Man up!!! You can’t compete against T.I. and here’s a reality check Hav………… MOBB DEEP is old new and FINISHED!!! PUNK ASS!!!!

  • senio

    its grand hustle pimp. yo bitch ass mad cause new york gone off the map rap wise, its all about the south for life now patna. georgia in this bitch and the rest of the south….nigga

  • traebizzo

    With the exception of a few artist i remember when south music was straight garbage and got no play even in the South. In the early 90′s. Mobb Deep was gettin play from NC to Tx and thats real.

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