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James, Cavaliers Tough It Out
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CLEVELAND, Jan. 26 (Ticker) -- The Cleveland Cavaliers got a scare of epic proportions before posting a win of significant importance.

LeBron James shook off a left ankle injury early in the fourth quarter to hit a pivotal layup with 90 seconds to go as the Cleveland Cavaliers posted a 114-111 triumph over the Memphis Grizzlies.

The second-year phenom was in considerable pain and appeared to have suffered a serious injury when he came down on the foot of defender Dahntay Jones. James, who appeared to roll his ankle, was carried to the bench by teammates and limped to the locker room with 9:23 left.

James emerged from the locker room to a roar from the crowd at Gund Arena and returned to the contest with 4:53 remaining. He had a basket just under a minute later and pushed the lead to 110-104 on a driving layup with 1:30 left.

"I was going to give as much energy as I could," James said. "It came down to being with my teammates. As the captain of this ship, I can't show fear."

Already playing with a plastic face mask to project his fractured cheekbone, James narrowly missed another triple-double with 27 points, 15 assists and nine rebounds.

"I thought it was more severe than it was," Cleveland coach Paul Silas said of the injury. "You kind of see your life flash before your eyes. Other than that, everything was cool."

"The defender came up under me (on the jump shot) and I had nowhere to land," James said.

Silas was able to joke about the injury after the fact.

"I saw a whole bunch of losses coming up," he said.

Former Grizzlie Drew Gooden had 27 points and 11 rebounds and Zydrunas Ilgauskas added 22 and nine for Cleveland (25-16). Gooden scored 11 points in the final quarter as the Cavaliers improved to 15-4 at home this season and erased any memories of a blown 17-point lead in a home loss to Washington on Monday.

"We shouldn't lose two games in a row at home," Gooden said.

"Drew was terrific tonight, not only scoring, but rebounding and defending," Silas said. "That happens a lot when you play against your old team."

Since a four-game winning streak had put them a season-high nine games over .500, Cleveland was 3-4.

James was not the only banged-up Cavalier as starting guard Jeff McInnis, battling a mid-foot sprain, admitted to playing at "80 percent." Backcourt mate Ira Newble played just 10 minutes before leaving with a strained left Achilles tendon.

Mike Miller scored a season-high 28 points for Memphis (24-20).

"We knew they would be searching a little bit because (James) is their go-to-guy down the stretch," Miller said. "They did a good job of executing and (James) came back in and made some plays."

"We hung in there until the end," Memphis coach Mike Fratello said. "We just couldn't get a big rebound when we needed it to give ourselves a chance."

Memphis got 63 points from its reserves, including 14 from Brian Cardinal.







gotta give it to him, man....that statement he said as the caption of the ship, i can't show fear....i got MAJOR respect for that...vince carter would of jumped that ship and swam to the shore....LOL

i'll give him a few years....there's a ring waiting for him
ShortyWop
Mad props 2 LeBron. He ALWAYS close 2 a triple double
gluvnast
QUOTE (ShortyWop @ Jan 27 2005, 01:49 PM)
Mad props 2 LeBron. He ALWAYS close 2 a triple double

actraully he got TWO triple doubles LAST week...making him the youngest player ever to do so in the NBA
YoungNOVA
it's not like the nigga came back and hooped wit a cast on his leg or sumthin. niggaz always get a lil boo boo and come back to play. put lebron's dick back in his shorts already.

but mad props on the triple doubles though, that shit is hard to get
gluvnast
noone's on anyone dick...

you just gotta give props where props is due..i mean it's NOT the fact he came back ON the court, but the REASON as to WHY he came back on...

that's signs of a true leader, and of a man wayyy mature for his age...it's only his 2nd year in the league where there's most players that came in from college, been in the league for years, and STILL act immature and whiney and all of that...

lebron is still just a kid...and you gotta respect him for how he's been handling himself...
ThaShizzit
another sublimal anti-kobe thread
ShortyWop
Thats why the Lakers lost...2 DA CLIPPERS! laugh.gif tongue.gif
gluvnast
QUOTE (ThaShizzit @ Jan 27 2005, 05:10 PM)
another sublimal anti-kobe thread

shizzz, why on the defensive???? you know damn well that if kobe had his way he would of been playing right now....

he worked this hard to lead the team all by himself just to throw it away???? nahhh it don't compute...LOL

i was mainly talking about people like vince carter that's don't know how to be a leader and just because it caught a charley horse he wants to be out on the injured list...

ThaShizzit
QUOTE (gluvnast @ Jan 27 2005, 05:55 PM)
QUOTE (ThaShizzit @ Jan 27 2005, 05:10 PM)
another sublimal anti-kobe thread

shizzz, why on the defensive???? you know damn well that if kobe had his way he would of been playing right now....

he worked this hard to lead the team all by himself just to throw it away???? nahhh it don't compute...LOL

i was mainly talking about people like vince carter that's don't know how to be a leader and just because it caught a charley horse he wants to be out on the injured list...

gluv gluv gluv..you are putting this lebron thing out of context. Lebron came into this league with a team that TOTALLY SUCKED...givinig him the INEVITABLE TASK of leading a team....which included not having another ALL STAR on that team to ANSWER TO. In other words....Lebron just happened to be put in the RIGHT PLACE at the RIGHT TIME. So coincidential. Now in Kobe's case...when he came in..he didn't have that lucky opportunity like Lebron did...Kobe did not have the whole space to lead a team (due to Shaq's presence)...but also he didn't need to cuz the Lakers weren't that bad back then....lets get off the Lebron bandwagon...shit he hasn't even made playoff YET....put that team in the west..they'd be a 6th or 5th place team. Yall must be crazy if Kobe premeditated that injury....if that SAME injury happened at a Warriors game...yall wouldn't be makin that much fuss...CMON



Kobe > Lebron (if both were 20 yrs old at the same time....AND/OR....now)
gluvnast
QUOTE (ThaShizzit @ Jan 28 2005, 03:56 AM)
QUOTE (gluvnast @ Jan 27 2005, 05:55 PM)
QUOTE (ThaShizzit @ Jan 27 2005, 05:10 PM)
another sublimal anti-kobe thread

shizzz, why on the defensive???? you know damn well that if kobe had his way he would of been playing right now....

he worked this hard to lead the team all by himself just to throw it away???? nahhh it don't compute...LOL

i was mainly talking about people like vince carter that's don't know how to be a leader and just because it caught a charley horse he wants to be out on the injured list...

gluv gluv gluv..you are putting this lebron thing out of context. Lebron came into this league with a team that TOTALLY SUCKED...givinig him the INEVITABLE TASK of leading a team....which included not having another ALL STAR on that team to ANSWER TO. In other words....Lebron just happened to be put in the RIGHT PLACE at the RIGHT TIME. So coincidential. Now in Kobe's case...when he came in..he didn't have that lucky opportunity like Lebron did...Kobe did not have the whole space to lead a team (due to Shaq's presence)...but also he didn't need to cuz the Lakers weren't that bad back then....lets get off the Lebron bandwagon...shit he hasn't even made playoff YET....put that team in the west..they'd be a 6th or 5th place team. Yall must be crazy if Kobe premeditated that injury....if that SAME injury happened at a Warriors game...yall wouldn't be makin that much fuss...CMON



Kobe > Lebron (if both were 20 yrs old at the same time....AND/OR....now)

no i wasn't even MENTIONING the fact that the cavs are doing well

and true lebron was pretty much FORCED into the situation...but who would of thought he would of took hold of it with this much ease?

there's been TOO many cats out there that was SUPPOSE to be promising prospects only to disappoint in the end....mainly because they're not mature enough to handle it all..that's a NBA fact...


the only person i could remember that took over as the leader with ease from jump KG.... minus real college

even kobe had some crutches in his game early and even though he WANTED to be a leader..he wasn't ready during that 1st two years


so props are given when props are due...why whenever someone gives out props people think it's dick-riding????


oh well...can't show NOBODY love....it's cool to hate, but the other way around...oh well....
gluvnast
Kobe > Lebron (if both were 20 yrs old at the same time....AND/OR....now)

^^^ummm not-so check the stats..as a matter of fact, kobe was STILL riding the bench during his 2nd year in the league!!!

the numbers kobe put up while he DID start starting are still lower to the stats lebron is getting as a whole.... and that's when he was OVER 21
ThaShizzit
QUOTE (gluvnast @ Jan 28 2005, 04:55 AM)
Kobe > Lebron (if both were 20 yrs old at the same time....AND/OR....now)

^^^ummm not-so check the stats..as a matter of fact, kobe was STILL riding the bench during his 2nd year in the league!!!

the numbers kobe put up while he DID start starting are still lower to the stats lebron is getting as a whole.... and that's when he was OVER 21

all i'm sayin is....kobe and lebron entered this league under totally DIFFERENT conditions....i don't go with stats. and ur point about kobe ridin the bench...THATS my point...Shaq was his impediment and u know who was coaching right?..Dell Haris.....TWO DIFFERENT situations....stats whatever...kobe would ball his ass up.
ThaShizzit
oh and let me add this before whatever argument u have gluv



i'll admit for a 20 year old Lebron did a lot of maturing is 2nd year....BUT.....he was given the all right cards....a strict/nurturing coach and a perfect set up for him to ABSOLUTELY lead a team. Look at kobe...can u really blame ALL the shit on number 8. During his first two years...he was under CRAPPY coach management (Dell Harris) and he was under Shaq's footstool. Kobe had no room whatsever to do the certain things as a rookie that lebron FORTUNATELY did.


and tell me this...if lebron went with a team that ALREADY had a superstar...u think Lebron would EVER realize his potentional in a SHORT AMOUNT of time?...answer me that.
gluvnast
i originally put stats up there, but you made a valid point to i disregarded it.....


very true...lebron's set-up WAS better than kobe's, but you have to admit that kobe during his 1st THREE years of the season was not at the level lebron is now...kobe today, i'll agree with mop lebron up and down the court, but the bryant of 96-99 was more hype than real....

not to hate on him, but it's the truth, and i WAS a lakers fan...and always rooted for them...but that was the case..the only reason kobe even GOT a starting position was because someone else got injuryed...and ended up keeping the starting job since

now i'll agree with u on that...each case scenario is different from the other..and kobe had that quality of being a leader, but never had the chance up until now...

but i honestly can't see kobe being BETTER than james if both were at their 2nd seasons...just for the fact you made...lebron was nutured and trained better than kobe was...dale harris didn't really give kobe a true opportunity to shine, and whenever kobe DID get on the court...his mistakes were glaringly out there...the case of him being a ball-hogg...not being a team player and so on....and lebron on the 1ST NIGHT of his NBA career destroyed any idea that crossed anyone's minds that he was all hype....

kobe had to work his the hard way....but lebron is the better man if they were both on their 2nd seasons...just based on the fact u just said...because of the different scenarios




gluvnast
oh yea...to answer your question

one name: tim duncan...so it's possible
ThaShizzit
QUOTE (gluvnast @ Jan 28 2005, 06:37 AM)
oh yea...to answer your question

one name: tim duncan...so it's possible



again this is OUT of context. David Robinson was declining as true center talent and plus duncan and robinson were basically playing the same positions alongside each other so it was EASY for them to coexist. Not for kobe and shaq. Remember that.
Youngbloodz
QUOTE (gluvnast @ Jan 28 2005, 04:55 AM)
Kobe > Lebron (if both were 20 yrs old at the same time....AND/OR....now)

^^^ummm not-so check the stats..as a matter of fact, kobe was STILL riding the bench during his 2nd year in the league!!!

the numbers kobe put up while he DID start starting are still lower to the stats lebron is getting as a whole.... and that's when he was OVER 21

he might have been riding the bench but he made the all-star team his second year and is the youngest player ever to appear in a all-star game
ThaShizzit
QUOTE
kobe had to work his the hard way....but lebron is the better man if they were both on their 2nd seasons...just based on the fact u just said...because of the different scenarios




i strongly disagree. That ^^^^ is a contradictory statement to the stuff u posted before. Since they entered this league under totally bipolar conditions...who's to say who'd be REALLY better if they played against each other during their 2nd years. Kobe had to work hard his first 2 yrs because of the cards he was dealt...lousy coach and cuz of Shaq.










and let me add this. Do you know why u don't see guys anymore who entered this league that skpped college not fucking up outside the NBA?...Because they learned from Kobe. Kobe was one of the 1st to ever enter the league without college experience. His actions and decisions set a layout for future rookies from high school on not how to get fucked by the media and other outside influences. It was inevitable for kobe to take the dirt cuz he had no "Guide for 18-yr old NBA rookies". Can everything be blamed by kobe? So whenever u see today a young nba player that entered this league at 18 after kobe...just note that he ain't fuckin up by learnin from kobe's mistakes. So at least thank kobe for that.
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