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Fizzles
Today in my Black Studies class we had a discussion on the women today and if they're just products now or are they still people? Like we brought up how rap videos potray black women in a negative way like we're nothing but animals or just something to sell. But we also have to say women did this to themselves as well because of people like the Pussycat Dolls, Britney Spears, and Jessica Simpson degrading themselves on TV and basically telling men that it's okay to treat us like bimbo's. And then the other problem is people are ONLY blaming rap for the reason women are degraded but I disagree. Women are degraded in magazines, advertisments, TV shows, and movies. We're also being degraded in rock music, pop music, and country music. And what's even worse is that preteen girls feel that being slutty is what they HAVE to be and they're minds don't matter anymore. So now the problem has gotten worse. I blame men AND women for why society's views on women have gotten so screwed up. This topic I wanted to bring up because I was curious on what men on XXLMag.com felt about women now and how they are viewed.

Start discussing now.
Setsotama
Alot of debates about this topic goes back into the Old English times, or even before that. Yes, at that point, women was only loooked at as slaves for their male counterpart, you rarely ever hear/read about women in those times accomplishing great things, of course in those times, if a women attempted to do what the average male do then she'll be executed.


Time went on and women started to have rights, and that's where the whole degrading themselves part come into play. If you had a choice between work at a fast food resturant or a strip club and you pick strip club then you're degrading yourself and you have only yourself to blame. If your career is dancing and it's cultural, nothing degrading or anything then that's all good, you're doing something morally positive, but if you're faced with a option to wear something extremely revealing and dance like a stripper and you still do it cuz you're doing it for the money, then you also have yourself to blame for that.


And yes, women has looked at as not people, but more like devices built for males entertainment, but only if that woman allows herself to be carried that way. I know thousands of women who asked me the same thing, and this happens all the time so I tell em, don't get into that position, and you'll rarely be face with that decision



that's my 2-cents, I know I'ma catch the flamethrower for that but it's the truth
Fizzles
QUOTE(Setsotama @ Mar 1 2007, 12:19 AM) [snapback]484290[/snapback]
Alot of debates about this topic goes back into the Old English times, or even before that. Yes, at that point, women was only loooked at as slaves for their male counterpart, you rarely ever hear/read about women in those times accomplishing great things, of course in those times, if a women attempted to do what the average male do then she'll be executed.


Time went on and women started to have rights, and that's where the whole degrading themselves part come into play. If you had a choice between work at a fast food resturant or a strip club and you pick strip club then you're degrading yourself and you have only yourself to blame. If your career is dancing and it's cultural, nothing degrading or anything then that's all good, you're doing something morally positive, but if you're faced with a option to wear something extremely revealing and dance like a stripper and you still do it cuz you're doing it for the money, then you also have yourself to blame for that.


And yes, women has looked at as not people, but more like devices built for males entertainment, but only if that woman allows herself to be carried that way. I know thousands of women who asked me the same thing, and this happens all the time so I tell em, don't get into that position, and you'll rarely be face with that decision



that's my 2-cents, I know I'ma catch the flamethrower for that but it's the truth
I agree with you really. That's why I don't understand some women today. There was a time where you just stayed at home and pleased your man. You had no say in anything and now you can be independent and some women don't wanna take advantage of and I honestly can't see why.
Setsotama
Laziness


majority of the human population love and live on taking the easy way out, if the opportunity came up to degrade that person morals to get to a high position which took the average person years to do, in a day, then they'll take it


basically, it's human's nature of negativity and a deadly sin, Sloth
Sagefrakrobatik
QUOTE(Fizzles @ Feb 28 2007, 01:09 AM) [snapback]484239[/snapback]
Today in my Black Studies class we had a discussion on the women today and if they're just products now or are they still people? Like we brought up how rap videos potray black women in a negative way like we're nothing but animals or just something to sell. But we also have to say women did this to themselves as well because of people like the Pussycat Dolls, Britney Spears, and Jessica Simpson degrading themselves on TV and basically telling men that it's okay to treat us like bimbo's. And then the other problem is people are ONLY blaming rap for the reason women are degraded but I disagree. Women are degraded in magazines, advertisments, TV shows, and movies. We're also being degraded in rock music, pop music, and country music. And what's even worse is that preteen girls feel that being slutty is what they HAVE to be and they're minds don't matter anymore. So now the problem has gotten worse. I blame men AND women for why society's views on women have gotten so screwed up. This topic I wanted to bring up because I was curious on what men on XXLMag.com felt about women now and how they are viewed.

Start discussing now.


And?? your point being


What about the message that it sends men as well.

It perpetuates this idea of male barbarianism
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