This is a email i recevied from my instructor comments and advice are welcomed.


Hello everyone,

I meant to give you more information yesterday about the debate on Thursday but forgot. The topic for the debate is whether rap music or, more generally, black media like BET, contributes to violence or stereotyping. I'm going to email you your positions this weekend and, like before, expect you to bring your points and citations to class. This time I will make a decision about which team argued more convincingly and award them several bonus points.

I have some articles that may get you started. Skim through them, especially the introduction and conclusion, as a starting off point. Please be sure to look for other sources as well. This system only allows me to attach one article at a time, so I will be sending five emails in order for you to receive them all. You do not have to read all of them, but may find it helpful to glance at each one.

Prof. Greif

which side are you taking? Tell me that then maybe i can help you

no it doesnt contribute

ppl been violent since the beginning of time

Co-sign to BC


Humans has been violent throughout history, music, basically, speaks on subjects that humans relate to, it's up to the person to either learn from what the music is saying or add on to it.


Hip-Hop is urban poetry, just like all other forms of poetry. Hip-hop touches on various, if not all, topics that we all speak on and relate to. Some songs, just like all other forms of music, all cultures can agree with while others don't, it's up to the person and his/her tastes. Me personally, I think hip-hop is what you as the listener make it out as, I look at hip-hop as poetry, others might look like it as a daily testament to soothe a person's soul, and others look at as publicity.


Basically, it's what you make it. We all have a spiritual tongue of creative, music is the food, and we choose the food we eat

In some ways it does...for xample. At LiL Wayne's concert a couple months ago..he played 'Money on My Mind' then some ignorant fools started shooting and killed somebody. This isnt the first time an incident like this has happend either (just the most recent one that I can remember). For the fans of hip hop, this was just another stupid mu fucka shooting at a conert. But for the country lovin cowboy boot wearers its a black rapper throwin money in a predominately black crowd then a black person gets shot. So they are instantly gonna stereotype rappers as being violent..not knowing that hip hop is diverse and has many different styles..I guess if you are an outsider looking in it would seem that rap contributes to violence.

For starters, Black people are the inventors of American Music(Jazz, Gospel, Ragtime, Rock&Roll, Blues, Rap). Everytime a genre of music was introduced to White America, it was criticized. Are people aware of the fact that when Jazz was introduced in nightclubs in New Orleans, Chicago, St.Louis, New York, Cleveland and other big cities, it was called "Jack-Ass Music"(hence Jazz short for Jack-ass). It was considered a form of music that mocked classical music as far as its tones, ques, symphanies, orcheastras, etc. It was also considered to be music of the lower class(White people and Upper-Middle class blacks considered it to be "poor man's music"). It was not accepted amongst "the masses" until white musicians found it captivating and blah, blah, blah.

Same thing with Rock and Roll. It was considered "jungle music" and "music by the devil". White people did not want their teenage daughters to see Black Men in suits and conks moving in a sexually suggestive manner on stage. Incomes Elvis Presley. His manager said and I quote, "I am looking for a white male to sing and sound colored" and that is just what he got. Then once America got this "sense" of what rock and roll is "supposed" to be, then it became acceptable.

In Conclusion, Every form of Black Music has been used as a scapegoat for D'Evils that has taking place in America throughout history. Rap Music is going through those motions as we speak.

that ain't no joke either as soon as a caveman hit another caveman in the head with a club for a piece of raw meat armed robbery was born

I just found out my side today. Im pro

ur taking the side of the ppl who think it helps violence happen?



and y is it only hip hop? why not rock shit too?

thats a great point there are black metal bands out in europe that make biggie and pac's murder look like an episode of seseme street these fools eat each other no joke there was a guy in a band who killed himself and his band mate found him dead cooked his brain and heart ate them and made a necklace out of the guys skull fragments then he got killed by another guy in his band because that guy wanted to be the most wicked in his band

^GeeZus! But its more visible in rap music xpecially since almost everybody and they momma know how Biggie and Pac died.It also doesnt help how 50 glorified how many times he got shot and all that hoop la..

yea check out this article about rock violence...at least hip hop associated killings are mainly just 1 person at a time..not a massacre!

http://www.orthodoxphotos.com/readings/rock/violence.shtml

How ironic you bring that up. One of the readings we have to read before we have the debate is a primary reserch report done to study the effects of rap and heavy metal music and whether these types of music lead to agression, misogynstic attitudes towards women, and trust/distrust for institutions. The only problem is that the study is 10 years old and the only rappers they use for their study are Snop (when he still had the Doggy Dog) Queen Latifa Dr Dre, MC Ren, and Too Short.

I think people ignored what I said about...


Hip-hop is how you make it, just like all other forms of music, it's up to you whether you wanna imitate or learn from the mistakes the artist has made in life so you can be a better person


Rock was the first to blames for violence, this that and the third, so I believe it's either:



1. Racism

or

2. A media scapegoat


like I said, music is what you make it as

just my honest opinion

i DO believe that Hip-Hop contributes to violence.. thats NOT to say that it should take the blame though.. people these days need to man up to the shit that they do and stop tryna pin it on something else

HOWEVER, Hip-Hop obviously DIDNT invent violence (for a lack of a better word).. if u really wanna get technical, we could never figure where violence first came from but for the white man always tryna pin shit on minorities saying we are just untamed and wild creatures.. how would they explain all the shit they did when they 'discovered' the 'New World?'

there was nothing pacific about their actions which involved killing, enslaving, stealing (material things to peoples identities to many other things), forcing their cultures, beliefs, languages etc. on anybody they fucking pleased
and to top it off.. they get celebrated for their 'ACCOMPLISHMENTS?!'

Christopher Columbus was a straight DUMBASS who was tryna get to INDIA.. it was not even in his PLANS to discover shit! he was so retarded that he didnt 'shoot' for India and instead landed in, say, China or some.. he landed THOUSANDS of miles away and he gets celebrated for that.. then to go on and steal the Native Americans identity first by calling them Indians SMH

i can go on and on but lemme stop.. Hip-Hop needs to stop taking blame for shit.. or people need to stop blaming it rather

That's fucked up how everybody is trying to blame rap music like it introduced violence. Everytime something happens at a rap concert then the question comes up "Is hip-hop encouraging violence?" But I seen some shit on VH-1 a while ago where this heavy metal band was playing and they had this crazy ass white hype man that would start fights with the crowd and literally throw shit on them. Not once did I ever hear that shit in the news. Rap is being used as a scapegoat, I'm suprised the media ain't tryin' to blame terrorism on it. Anybody who thinks music brings about violence is fuckin' retarded. If I listen to a song about robbin' somebody that's not gonna make me get up and do it. SMARTEN UP!