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Fizzles
Personally I'm really touchy on abortians. I always hear females say that it's okay to give an abortian because shouldn't be forced to carry a baby but I believe that a growing life shouldn't be killed becuase of what their mom did and I'm really really against it.

But really what do you guys hate in society today?
SilvitaLikeWHOA
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i think the whole 'its MY body' excuse is way tired.. cause the same can be said for the baby.. its HIS/HER body.. what gives U the right to take his life

but another thing im very much against is all the double standards that we live by when it comes to MENS/FATHERS rights.. how is it that he has absolutely no say when a woman has an abortion even if he WANTED to have the baby and be a father to it and at the same time has no say if he DOESNT want to have the baby but the woman does want it.. the man is then forced to become a father and pay child support for a baby he didnt want.. while a woman has the right to an abortion if she doesnt want the baby? SMH dry.gif
streets disciple
I'm for abortion, because it is ultimately the female's right to choose. We have to many Bible thumpers trying to dictate federal laws nowadays. There is this Separation of Church and State edict in our Constitution, if you don't agree with abortion<--good for you, but don't try to deprive the rights of another member of society, because YOU are personally are against it.

But I do agree with Vita's stance on thw Women/Men right's double standard. I think that if the father does want an abortion, but the female wants to have the child, then they should have a court agreement to protect the father from paying child support.

But on that note, I am against prejudices of our society. Be it against race, religion or nationality, it's just loatheful.

Also, I am not fond of our conservative constituency that is trying to probe through our sexual private affairs and prohibit fornication, because the "Bible" said so.

Fizzles
I'm also against domestic violence. I can never respect a man that hits a woman. But then there's been cases where the woman was abusive towards her boyfriend/husband and that I can't respect either.
Bone Collecta
QUOTE (streets disciple @ Jun 4 2006, 05:06 AM)
I'm for abortion, because it is ultimately the female's right to choose. We have to many Bible thumpers trying to dictate federal laws nowadays. There is this Separation of Church and State edict in our Constitution, if you don't agree with abortion<--good for you, but don't try to deprive the rights of another member of society, because YOU are personally are against it.

But I do agree with Vita's stance on thw Women/Men right's double standard. I think that if the father does want an abortion, but the female wants to have the child, then they should have a court agreement to protect the father from paying child support.

But on that note, I am against prejudices of our society. Be it against race, religion or nationality, it's just loatheful.

Also, I am not fond of our conservative constituency that is trying to probe through our sexual private affairs and prohibit fornication, because the "Bible" said so.

ur just for it cause ur against almost anything that conservatives are for. ur over liberal just for the sake of being against conservatives.

abortion is murder whatever way u look at it. abortion should NOT be used as a birth control which is the #1 method of use.

the only times where abortion should be allowed is rape or maybe incest.

my mother had an abortion b4 she had me and is totally against it after she did it. you have to live with the fact forever that u couldve had.
VERSEital
I am totaly against abortion, The fact is if my parents or anyone else's parents chose abortion THEN WE WOULD NOT BE HERE.

People act like that it's such a big desicion, when the real desicsion should have been whether or not to have sex at all, use a condom, or use a REAL method of birth control and take it correctly.

The only way I can justify Abortion is if the female is raped, then it's her choice.

I also think it's bullshit that if a female wants to have an abortion and the father actaully wants to raise the child that he has absoleutley no say in it at all. I mean I understand the female has to carry the baby, but she didn't make it by herself.

VERSE
Fizzles
QUOTE (Bone Collecta @ Jun 4 2006, 03:55 PM)
QUOTE (streets disciple @ Jun 4 2006, 05:06 AM)
I'm for abortion, because it is ultimately the female's right to choose. We have to many Bible thumpers trying to dictate federal laws nowadays. There is this Separation of Church and State edict in our Constitution, if you don't agree with abortion<--good for you, but don't try to deprive the rights of another member of society, because YOU are personally are against it.

But I do agree with Vita's stance on thw Women/Men right's double standard. I think that if the father does want an abortion, but the female wants to have the child, then they should have a court agreement to protect the father from paying child support.

But on that note, I am against prejudices of our society. Be it against race, religion or nationality, it's just loatheful.

Also, I am not fond of our conservative constituency that is trying to probe through our sexual private affairs and prohibit fornication, because the "Bible" said so.

ur just for it cause ur against almost anything that conservatives are for. ur over liberal just for the sake of being against conservatives.

abortion is murder whatever way u look at it. abortion should NOT be used as a birth control which is the #1 method of use.

the only times where abortion should be allowed is rape or maybe incest.

my mother had an abortion b4 she had me and is totally against it after she did it. you have to live with the fact forever that u couldve had.

Yeah my mother had an abortian after me but she told me that I should never get one becuase you regret it later on.
streets disciple
QUOTE (Bone Collecta @ Jun 4 2006, 03:55 PM)
QUOTE (streets disciple @ Jun 4 2006, 05:06 AM)
I'm for abortion, because it is ultimately the female's right to choose. We have to many Bible thumpers trying to dictate federal laws nowadays. There is this Separation of Church and State edict in our Constitution, if you don't agree with abortion<--good for you, but don't try to deprive the rights of another member of society, because YOU are personally are against it.

But I do agree with Vita's stance on thw Women/Men right's double standard. I think that if the father does want an abortion, but the female wants to have the child, then they should have a court agreement to protect the father from paying child support.

But on that note, I am against prejudices of our society. Be it against race, religion or nationality, it's just loatheful.

Also, I am not fond of our conservative constituency that is trying to probe through our sexual private affairs and prohibit fornication, because the "Bible" said so.

ur just for it cause ur against almost anything that conservatives are for. ur over liberal just for the sake of being against conservatives.

abortion is murder whatever way u look at it. abortion should NOT be used as a birth control which is the #1 method of use.

the only times where abortion should be allowed is rape or maybe incest.

my mother had an abortion b4 she had me and is totally against it after she did it. you have to live with the fact forever that u couldve had.

No, I am for abortion because it gives women the freedom to atleast have a choice. How many women end up being suicidal because they couldnt provide support for their child? How many children grow up in this world in a deplorable condition , because their parents do not have enough money to support them? The bible is not the U.S. Constitution, it doesn't matter what you feel or whatever Jesus said, abortion is never going to be illegal. Period, it is a clear contradiction to the U.S. Constitution. Do not deprive the rights of other U.S. citizens because youre Bible thumping pastor told you so, if YOU are against it, then don't partake in it. I'm against smoking too, but do you see me trying to deprive the rights of smokers because I don't acquiese to your deleterious habits?


And Verse- Most of the time, it is the father who ultimately persuades the soon-to-be to have an abortion. And a child isn't even considered a "human" until 4 or 5 months into the pregnancy so please end this idiotic conversation. How about the female? 40,000 females die because of labor complications. They don't have rights? The female's rights in pregnancy supercede any rights a male might have, because he plays a trivial part in the pregnancy. Having sexual intercourse with a girl, and ejaculating inside of her is hardly a laborious task. So the male should have minimal say when it comes to abortion, especially if he is not going to have a stable relationship with the girl.
VERSEital
4 or 5 Months, The baby has a heart beat I belive in 4 or 5 weeks. All Im sayin is lets just say my girl wanted an abortion, and I wanted a son more than anything in this world. And she didn't give a fuck and I had no say in it. That would kill me. And I would be very tempted to kill the woman who took my unborn son. Especially after having a son and seeing how much I care about him. He means the entire world to me. And I would stop at nothing to give him everything he needs. Most females aren't EVER in the right state of mind to make that type of decesion anyway. AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM REGRET IT AFTER IT HAPPENS.

If your grown and adult enough to have sex then you better be able to handle the consequences. Good & Bad

VERSE
streets disciple
QUOTE (VERSEital @ Jun 4 2006, 04:40 PM)
4 or 5 Months, The baby has a heart beat I belive in 4 or 5 weeks. All Im sayin is lets just say my girl wanted an abortion, and I wanted a son more than anything in this world. And she didn't give a fuck and I had no say in it. That would kill me. And I would be very tempted to kill the woman who took my unborn son. Especially after having a son and seeing how much I care about him. He means the entire world to me. And I would stop at nothing to give him everything he needs. Most females aren't EVER in the right state of mind to make that type of decesion anyway. AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM REGRET IT AFTER IT HAPPENS.

If your grown and adult enough to have sex then you better be able to handle the consequences. Good & Bad

VERSE

EVERY single one of them regret it?

That is why the pro-abortion movement is so strong? right? Just because there were SOME women who regretted their decision, doesn't mean all women regretted their decision.

Verse-Most of the time, a man doesn't want to have a child with a female who he will not marry. If you really want a child, and want to avoid abortion, you need to get married and have a female who will provide you with a child. Don't impose yourself on a girl you do not plan to marry to have your child, because the child will grow up in a melancholic and chaotic family structure.

And my concluding statement is this:If you do not believe in abortion--then that's FINE, but to want a law against it, is a direct violation of the US Constitution, and it's violates the freedom of men and women to choose for themselves.

VERSEital
QUOTE (streets disciple @ Jun 4 2006, 05:58 PM)
QUOTE (VERSEital @ Jun 4 2006, 04:40 PM)
4 or 5 Months, The baby has a heart beat I belive in 4 or 5 weeks. All Im sayin is lets just say my girl wanted an abortion, and I wanted a son more than anything in this world. And she didn't give a fuck and I had no say in it. That would kill me. And I would be very tempted to kill the woman who took my unborn son. Especially after having a son and seeing how much I care about him. He means the entire world to me. And I would stop at nothing to give him everything he needs. Most females aren't EVER in the right state of mind to make that type of decesion anyway. AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM REGRET IT AFTER IT HAPPENS.

If your grown and adult enough to have sex then you better be able to handle the consequences. Good & Bad

VERSE

EVERY single one of them regret it?

That is why the pro-abortion movement is so strong? right? Just because there were SOME women who regretted their decision, doesn't mean all women regretted their decision.

Verse-Most of the time, a man doesn't want to have a child with a female who he will not marry. If you really want a child, and want to avoid abortion, you need to get married and have a female who will provide you with a child. Don't impose yourself on a girl you do not plan to marry to have your child, because the child will grow up in a melancholic and chaotic family structure.

And my concluding statement is this:If you do not believe in abortion--then that's FINE, but to want a law against it, is a direct violation of the US Constitution, and it's violates the freedom of men and women to choose for themselves.

IT'S MURDER

So I guess if "I CHOOSE" to start murdering Muafuckers It ok Cause It's My Choice.

ABORTION IS WRONG, If you don't want to raise a child, THEN DON'T HAVE SEX

Just think of the the Great Minds, People, Athletes, etc etc we have lost because of Abortion.

Streets I assume your from the Ghetto, either way look how many people in the Ghetto, Or Trailer Park or even negelcted children MAKE IT IN LIFE. Those children find a WAY FOR THEMSELVES. And to me thats the best way

EVERYBODY DESERVES A CHANCE AT LIFE, Instead of Abortion they should have the baby and then kill the parent so they don't have to raise it. HOW ABOUT THAT?

Abortion is for Cowards, Streets I could probably gaurentee you wouldn't want your son or daughter aborted. Am I Right?

VERSE
streets disciple
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IT'S MURDER


Says who? The Church and the National Right to Life Commitee? Don't try to pass your opinion as a fact because you adhere to a religion or a interest group. The fact is, the Constitution has provisions against the deprivation of freedome for both men and women.

QUOTE
So I guess if "I CHOOSE" to start murdering Muafuckers It ok Cause It's My Choice.


We are murdering mutherfuckers, didn't you know about our imperialistic policies on the muslim world? And the wars we are engaging in presently?

QUOTE
ABORTION IS WRONG, If you don't want to raise a child, THEN DON'T HAVE SEX


Agreed, but alot of people do not like being told what they can or cannot do. Sex is a pleasurable thing to them, and having a child might not be looked on with as much delight as you might think.

QUOTE
Just think of the the Great Minds, People, Athletes, etc etc we have lost because of Abortion.


And just think of the great criminals, thieves and rogues we have saved our society from. I can flip it both ways. How many humans are GREAT? How many of them are inherent evil and inclined to a live of felonious actions? There are more criminals in our world, then "great minds and athletes". Trust that.


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Streets I assume your from the Ghetto, either way look how many people in the Ghetto, Or Trailer Park or even negelcted children MAKE IT IN LIFE. Those children find a WAY FOR THEMSELVES. And to me thats the best way


You want to know why the ghetto's in America are proned to failure? Because of dysfunctional households. It is proven by psychology that marital satisfaction decreases immensely with the advent of children<---for a multitude of reasons:

1. Financial burdens become overbearing
2. The husband and wife seldom have time together, alone


But the fact is, alot of people in the ghetto have children they cannot afford. The father always, UNDENIABLY leaves the mother(forces her NOT to abort the child because "jesus will take her to hell if she has the audacity to) and then leaves the family when he is daunted by the pressures of family life.

Why do you think so many young teenage women are hindered in their progress of education in the ghetto? Because they have children at a young age and that inevitably coerces them to drop out of school. None of them can handle the fact that they are horny, concipuscent, so they have sexual intercourse anyway. Now some teenage mothers, have immense support from their rich or decently well off father or mother, so they somehow subsist and make it, BUT ALOT OF TEENAGE WOMEN, especially in the ghetto, are left to fend for themselves, against the world that is cruel and unbearable for a person with no HS education.



QUOTE
EVERYBODY DESERVES A CHANCE AT LIFE, Instead of Abortion they should have the baby and then kill the parent so they don't have to raise it. HOW ABOUT THAT?



Displays how illogical you are. You seem to care more about a life that is impalpable(a fetus of two or three months), than a palpable or more apparent life--the pregnant mother.

But since you asked that question. How COME all of our babies do not have a chance to live? How come all of our sperm cells arent allowed to live? Should that prevent us from masterbating, which essentially kills off our "could have" been children? That's how illogical your assumptions are.



QUOTE
Abortion is for Cowards, Streets I could probably gaurentee you wouldn't want your son or daughter aborted. Am I Right?


I personally would try to persuade the mother to have the child<---only because I'm financially adept to maintain the child and provide him with a sufficient life. But if the mother refuses to go through pregnancy for the child, I will have to relent, why? Because IT IS NOT ME WHO IS GOING THROUGH THE LABORIOUS TASK OF PREGNANCY. It is not my body, it is hers and I have to respect her decision. I can always inject sperm into a female and come out without any physical burdens, but she might be permenently afflicted by a fatal wound from her pregnancy.



But like I said, my personal views does not allow me to BE THE JUDGE FOR THE REST OF SOCIETY. You are against abortion? GREAT, do not preclude others who have the right of abortion to utilize this right.
VERSEital
QUOTE (streets disciple @ Jun 4 2006, 06:46 PM)
QUOTE
IT'S MURDER


Says who? The Church and the National Right to Life Commitee? Don't try to pass your opinion as a fact because you adhere to a religion or a interest group. The fact is, the Constitution has provisions against the deprivation of freedome for both men and women.

QUOTE
So I guess if "I CHOOSE" to start murdering Muafuckers It ok Cause It's My Choice.


We are murdering mutherfuckers, didn't you know about our imperialistic policies on the muslim world? And the wars we are engaging in presently?

QUOTE
ABORTION IS WRONG, If you don't want to raise a child, THEN DON'T HAVE SEX


Agreed, but alot of people do not like being told what they can or cannot do. Sex is a pleasurable thing to them, and having a child might not be looked on with as much delight as you might think.

QUOTE
Just think of the the Great Minds, People, Athletes, etc etc we have lost because of Abortion.


And just think of the great criminals, thieves and rogues we have saved our society from. I can flip it both ways. How many humans are GREAT? How many of them are inherent evil and inclined to a live of felonious actions? There are more criminals in our world, then "great minds and athletes". Trust that.


QUOTE
Streets I assume your from the Ghetto, either way look how many people in the Ghetto, Or Trailer Park or even negelcted children MAKE IT IN LIFE. Those children find a WAY FOR THEMSELVES. And to me thats the best way


You want to know why the ghetto's in America are proned to failure? Because of dysfunctional households. It is proven by psychology that marital satisfaction decreases immensely with the advent of children<---for a multitude of reasons:

1. Financial burdens become overbearing
2. The husband and wife seldom have time together, alone


But the fact is, alot of people in the ghetto have children they cannot afford. The father always, UNDENIABLY leaves the mother(forces her NOT to abort the child because "jesus will take her to hell if she has the audacity to) and then leaves the family when he is daunted by the pressures of family life.

Why do you think so many young teenage women are hindered in their progress of education in the ghetto? Because they have children at a young age and that inevitably coerces them to drop out of school. None of them can handle the fact that they are horny, concipuscent, so they have sexual intercourse anyway. Now some teenage mothers, have immense support from their rich or decently well off father or mother, so they somehow subsist and make it, BUT ALOT OF TEENAGE WOMEN, especially in the ghetto, are left to fend for themselves, against the world that is cruel and unbearable for a person with no HS education.



QUOTE
EVERYBODY DESERVES A CHANCE AT LIFE, Instead of Abortion they should have the baby and then kill the parent so they don't have to raise it. HOW ABOUT THAT?



Displays how illogical you are. You seem to care more about a life that is impalpable(a fetus of two or three months), than a palpable or more apparent life--the pregnant mother.

But since you asked that question. How COME all of our babies do not have a chance to live? How come all of our sperm cells arent allowed to live? Should that prevent us from masterbating, which essentially kills off our "could have" been children? That's how illogical your assumptions are.



QUOTE
Abortion is for Cowards, Streets I could probably gaurentee you wouldn't want your son or daughter aborted. Am I Right?


I personally would try to persuade the mother to have the child<---only because I'm financially adept to maintain the child and provide him with a sufficient life. But if the mother refuses to go through pregnancy for the child, I will have to relent, why? Because IT IS NOT ME WHO IS GOING THROUGH THE LABORIOUS TASK OF PREGNANCY. It is not my body, it is hers and I have to respect her decision. I can always inject sperm into a female and come out without any physical burdens, but she might be permenently afflicted by a fatal wound from her pregnancy.



But like I said, my personal views does not allow me to BE THE JUDGE FOR THE REST OF SOCIETY. You are against abortion? GREAT, do not preclude others who have the right of abortion to utilize this right.

You a funny dude with that masturbation talk laugh.gif

Don't Take away my masurbation privleges laugh.gif

VERSE
Bone Collecta
abortion is wrong and this is talking not with christian bias.

if the woman is pregnant then it is a baby forming that is a life mayne sperm is not a baby mayne.

shaunie
Once a baby has a heartbeat, and you end that heartbeat..you have also ended a life..plain and simple..

What I'm against is the government trying to ban gay marriages. Why do people care who the next man is sleeping with? I know some gay couples who have been in love and together much longer than many heterosexual couples...if they want to get married for love like many heterosexual couples then that is their choice...why do we care? Its not like children today don't know or won't ever know what a gay person is, so the children excuse makes no sense. I just think there is too much going on in society for Bush to be putting his effort into banning gay marriages...how about we put effort into banning killing innocent Iraquis?
eye_cue
abortion IS wrong..the main women that talk about abortions are LITTLE GIRLS (15-18)..who have no idea of what they are doing..to me thats a cop-out as a decision to make...those girls talk about abortion just as easy as they talk about havin a baby like wtf (i've heard it before)..like there's no thought that goes into it..its just like "what, im pregnant?..well i'll just get an abortion".. i just cant fathom that..if u can lay on your back and get fucked u can give birth..plus they need to learn to be responsible anyway...throwin away a responsibility such as a child as if its throwin a football out of bounds like there's no other options is DEAD WRONG..if a girl is gonna have an abortion..the decision should not be up to her..and i mean A GIRL as in A MINOR..cuz these young girls dont know wtf they doing and dont know how to make appropriate decisions...to me abortion should only be even thought about is if the girl was raped or for health issues..
shaunie
I knew girls in high school who had almost 3 abortions before they even graduated..and I'm like, why don't you just take the fuckin pill??? But their excuse was, that if their moms found the pills, then they would know they were having sex blink.gif
eye_cue
i knew a girl that had 2 abortions like it was nothin with no shame or remorse at all..and of course she was young about 16 yrs old..
shaunie
QUOTE (eye_cue @ Jun 5 2006, 11:56 AM)
i knew a girl that had 2 abortions like it was nothin with no shame or remorse at all..and of course she was young about 16 yrs old..

thats because they have no comprehension of what they are doing..WHY? cause you cannot see the baby.."outta sight, outta mind" All they do is go to sleep, and wake up no longer pregnant. Now if the dr was to hand them the aborted baby afterwards, and show them the person they just killed, it would be a totally different story.
VERSEital
QUOTE (shaunie @ Jun 5 2006, 11:45 AM)
Once a baby has a heartbeat, and you end that heartbeat..you have also ended a life..plain and simple..

What I'm against is the government trying to ban gay marriages. Why do people care who the next man is sleeping with? I know some gay couples who have been in love and together much longer than many heterosexual couples...if they want to get married for love like many heterosexual couples then that is their choice...why do we care? Its not like children today don't know or won't ever know what a gay person is, so the children excuse makes no sense. I just think there is too much going on in society for Bush to be putting his effort into banning gay marriages...how about we put effort into banning killing innocent Iraquis?

Im against the war but most the the Iraqi's are not that innocent.

The Iraqi's haven't done shit for me thats all I know. And I bet if I was over there they would try and pop me.

We had to do something after 9/11 but it should've of been done by now

VERSE
VERSEital
QUOTE (shaunie @ Jun 5 2006, 11:51 AM)
I knew girls in high school who had almost 3 abortions before they even graduated..and I'm like, why don't you just take the fuckin pill??? But their excuse was, that if their moms found the pills, then they would know they were having sex blink.gif

That is fuckin sad. They can't tell there parents there having sex but they can take an innocent life

I hope when these women grow older and actually have a lil bit of sense that it haunts them for the rest of there life.

I would smack the shit out of them but it's not worth the jail time.

Shaunie please handle that for me, thank you

VERSE
shaunie
QUOTE (VERSEital @ Jun 5 2006, 12:20 PM)
QUOTE (shaunie @ Jun 5 2006, 11:45 AM)
Once a baby has a heartbeat, and you end that heartbeat..you have also ended a life..plain and simple..

What I'm against is the government trying to ban gay marriages.  Why do people care who the next man is sleeping with?  I know some gay couples who have been in love and together much longer than many heterosexual couples...if they want to get married for love like many heterosexual couples then that is their choice...why do we care?  Its not like children today don't know or won't ever know what a gay person is, so the children excuse makes no sense.  I just think there is too much going on in society for Bush to be putting his effort into banning gay marriages...how about we put effort into banning killing innocent Iraquis?

Im against the war but most the the Iraqi's are not that innocent.

The Iraqi's haven't done shit for me thats all I know. And I bet if I was over there they would try and pop me.

We had to do something after 9/11 but it should've of been done by now

VERSE

I feel you on that..what we had to do after the war was find Bin Laden..but somewhere down the road the Iraq entered the picture...so now that we are there killing Iraq civillians is not going to help our cause.
shaunie
QUOTE (VERSEital @ Jun 5 2006, 12:22 PM)
QUOTE (shaunie @ Jun 5 2006, 11:51 AM)
I knew girls in high school who had almost 3 abortions before they even graduated..and I'm like, why don't you just take the fuckin pill??? But their excuse was, that if their moms found the pills, then they would know they were having sex  blink.gif

That is fuckin sad. They can't tell there parents there having sex but they can take an innocent life

I hope when these women grow older and actually have a lil bit of sense that it haunts them for the rest of there life.

I would smack the shit out of them but it's not worth the jail time.

Shaunie please handle that for me, thank you

VERSE

laugh.gif No doubt!

Bone Collecta
oh and they arent banning gayism lol. they are saying that marraige is a tradition held by the church and they dont want ppl they dont approve of being married.

why not just change the name to something else for gays?

shaunie
QUOTE (Bone Collecta @ Jun 5 2006, 01:52 PM)
oh and they arent banning gayism lol. they are saying that marraige is a tradition held by the church and they dont want ppl they dont approve of being married.

why not just change the name to something else for gays?

I'm not saying that Bone laugh.gif Marriage maybe something recognized by the church, but it is also recognized by the government and jobs as far as tax breaks, benefits, insurance, etc. The same benefits afforded to married heterosexual couples should be afforded to married homosexual couples. Since it is illegal for gays to be married, they do have what is called "commitment ceremonies", but it is not recognized by the government or employers. I'm just saying people are putting too much effort into making sure gay marriages are not recognized, when they should be putting the same effort into their own marriages since the divorce rate is almost 60%.
Fizzles
QUOTE (shaunie @ Jun 5 2006, 11:45 AM)
Once a baby has a heartbeat, and you end that heartbeat..you have also ended a life..plain and simple..

What I'm against is the government trying to ban gay marriages. Why do people care who the next man is sleeping with? I know some gay couples who have been in love and together much longer than many heterosexual couples...if they want to get married for love like many heterosexual couples then that is their choice...why do we care? Its not like children today don't know or won't ever know what a gay person is, so the children excuse makes no sense. I just think there is too much going on in society for Bush to be putting his effort into banning gay marriages...how about we put effort into banning killing innocent Iraquis?

I know. If they want to get with each other, let it be.
major dick ryda reporting 4 duty
I'M AGAINST ABORTION, GAY MARRIAGE, GEORGE BUSH, THE WAR ON TERROR, RACISM, AND MOST OF ALL THE BITCH WHO KEEPS WARNING ME.

streets disciple
QUOTE (shaunie @ Jun 5 2006, 11:45 AM)
Once a baby has a heartbeat, and you end that heartbeat..you have also ended a life..plain and simple..

What I'm against is the government trying to ban gay marriages. Why do people care who the next man is sleeping with? I know some gay couples who have been in love and together much longer than many heterosexual couples...if they want to get married for love like many heterosexual couples then that is their choice...why do we care? Its not like children today don't know or won't ever know what a gay person is, so the children excuse makes no sense. I just think there is too much going on in society for Bush to be putting his effort into banning gay marriages...how about we put effort into banning killing innocent Iraquis?

I do agree with your second paragraph.

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Im against the war but most the the Iraqi's are not that innocent.

The Iraqi's haven't done shit for me thats all I know. And I bet if I was over there they would try and pop me. But you know, Bone and his father don't have a clue that you can get married WITHOUT the church. It IS possible.

We had to do something after 9/11 but it should've of been done by now


If Usama was responsible for 9/11 then why are we in Iraq? The excuses of WMD's were given to us. There WAS no WMD's. Obviously, America is trying to expand it's imperialistic policies on Iraq. We shouldn't have been there in the first place. Now it's a place of choas and turmoil. You have three different groups(Kurds, Sunni's and Shiites) fighting for control, and killing each other<--if Saddam dictatorship did ONE thing, it was that it prevented insurrection and conflicts among these three groups, now all hell is breaking loose and America cannot control it.

Our beef was with terrorism, not a dictatorship. If we want to go after dictatorships we might as well go after Cuba, right?

The funny thing is, how the government has deluded you cats into FORGETTING about Usama. Where is he? If HE is the main mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, then we should have concentrated our forces ON HIM AND HIM ONLY. We haven't even had closure on the Bin Ladin issue. We haven't even set up a stable democracy in Afghanistan, OR Iraq, now we are threatening Iran with war? This is what you call imperialism.
Water
I'm against the malicious exploitation of our beautiful Native american brothers and sisters.
Water
PS there aint nothing wrong with abortion, your right abortions are primarily utilized by immature females who have a lack of parental guidance and a permissive upbringing, who dwelve into avenues that they have minimal or no experience in. AND BOOM, just like that they become impregnated by their low life boyriends who will leave them once they give birth. HOWEVER, with abortion we can illeviate and eradicate this constant social struggle, besides what about the women who were raped? You don't expect them to raise a child that they did not willingly partake in creating? ANSWER ME THAT STREETS DISCIPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Fizzles
QUOTE (Water @ Jun 7 2006, 10:50 PM)
PS there aint nothing wrong with abortion, your right abortions are primarily utilized by immature females who have a lack of parental guidance and a permissive upbringing, who dwelve into avenues that they have minimal or no experience in. AND BOOM, just like that they become impregnated by their low life boyriends who will leave them once they give birth. HOWEVER, with abortion we can illeviate and eradicate this constant social struggle, besides what about the women who were raped? You don't expect them to raise a child that they did not willingly partake in creating? ANSWER ME THAT STREETS DISCIPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

I only know one girl that kept a baby of a rapist. I don't think I could've did but she says she doesn't regret giving the baby birth and keeping it.
streets disciple
QUOTE (Water @ Jun 7 2006, 10:50 PM)
PS there aint nothing wrong with abortion, your right abortions are primarily utilized by immature females who have a lack of parental guidance and a permissive upbringing, who dwelve into avenues that they have minimal or no experience in. AND BOOM, just like that they become impregnated by their low life boyriends who will leave them once they give birth. HOWEVER, with abortion we can illeviate and eradicate this constant social struggle, besides what about the women who were raped? You don't expect them to raise a child that they did not willingly partake in creating? ANSWER ME THAT STREETS DISCIPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

You're a dumbass. I'm pro-abortion for those reasons and much more. You obviously havent read my earlier posts.

But thank God America is moving away from the Church and into secularism. This is what keeps alive our laws on human rights.

Hearing some of your pro-lifer's speak it;s like hearing the sermon of a pastor or something. You guys are willingly to hamper a young girl with a baby even if she cannot afford it, because "she shouldn't have had sex in the first place". If you are so worried and anxious about raising babies, then make some of your own and move on. If a girl decides on an abortion, I agree that she should know the repercussions of it and then decide what is right for her body. It's the American way.
DAPADON718
im against there not being any all u can eat kfc branches in ny and there arent enuff red lobster's here either..lol

and if masterbation is considered murder sign me up for the chair for all the lives i have taken..lol
Water
QUOTE (streets disciple @ Jun 8 2006, 03:55 AM)
QUOTE (Water @ Jun 7 2006, 10:50 PM)
PS there aint nothing wrong with abortion, your right abortions are primarily utilized by immature females who have a lack of parental guidance and a permissive upbringing, who dwelve into avenues that they have minimal or no experience in. AND BOOM, just like that they become impregnated by their low life boyriends who will leave them once they give birth. HOWEVER, with abortion we can illeviate and eradicate this constant social struggle, besides what about the women who were raped? You don't expect them to raise a child that they did not willingly partake in creating? ANSWER ME THAT STREETS DISCIPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

You're a dumbass. I'm pro-abortion for those reasons and much more. You obviously havent read my earlier posts.

But thank God America is moving away from the Church and into secularism. This is what keeps alive our laws on human rights.

Hearing some of your pro-lifer's speak it;s like hearing the sermon of a pastor or something. You guys are willingly to hamper a young girl with a baby even if she cannot afford it, because "she shouldn't have had sex in the first place". If you are so worried and anxious about raising babies, then make some of your own and move on. If a girl decides on an abortion, I agree that she should know the repercussions of it and then decide what is right for her body. It's the American way.

away from the church. woah woah woah!!!!!!!

please show constraints with your indigenous, innate, humanistic theories, and backwards philosophy on life.
your religious skepticism and indiffirence is startling.
Do you honestly believe that religious considerations should be excluded from civil affairs and public education?
Dude, without the churches influence, proffesings and teachings dozens of viewpoints that currently exist on a worldwide scale would be plunged into another realm of inconsideration and malice.
such factors as Reducing Crime, ending world hunger, preventing war, educating our youth, and countless other matters would hardly be acknowledged and would probably be overlooked. the fear of God is what makes us rational in our judgments and convictions.
SilvitaLikeWHOA
and ironically everyone runs BACK to God when they feel vulnerable enough.. split God/religion from the government but soon as disaster strikes.. 'God Bless America'
and funny how even with money being the root of all evil (or so the saying goes).. money being used to pay for the war and countless other dumb shit but still says 'In God We Trust' on it dry.gif
streets disciple
QUOTE (Water @ Jun 8 2006, 07:22 AM)
QUOTE (streets disciple @ Jun 8 2006, 03:55 AM)
QUOTE (Water @ Jun 7 2006, 10:50 PM)
PS there aint nothing wrong with abortion, your right abortions are primarily utilized by immature females who have a lack of parental guidance and a permissive upbringing, who dwelve into avenues that they have minimal or no experience in. AND BOOM, just like that they become impregnated by their low life boyriends who will leave them once they give birth. HOWEVER, with abortion we can illeviate and eradicate this constant social struggle, besides what about the women who were raped? You don't expect them to raise a child that they did not willingly partake in creating? ANSWER ME THAT STREETS DISCIPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

You're a dumbass. I'm pro-abortion for those reasons and much more. You obviously havent read my earlier posts.

But thank God America is moving away from the Church and into secularism. This is what keeps alive our laws on human rights.

Hearing some of your pro-lifer's speak it;s like hearing the sermon of a pastor or something. You guys are willingly to hamper a young girl with a baby even if she cannot afford it, because "she shouldn't have had sex in the first place". If you are so worried and anxious about raising babies, then make some of your own and move on. If a girl decides on an abortion, I agree that she should know the repercussions of it and then decide what is right for her body. It's the American way.

away from the church. woah woah woah!!!!!!!

please show constraints with your indigenous, innate, humanistic theories, and backwards philosophy on life.
your religious skepticism and indiffirence is startling.
Do you honestly believe that religious considerations should be excluded from civil affairs and public education?
Dude, without the churches influence, proffesings and teachings dozens of viewpoints that currently exist on a worldwide scale would be plunged into another realm of inconsideration and malice.
such factors as Reducing Crime, ending world hunger, preventing war, educating our youth, and countless other matters would hardly be acknowledged and would probably be overlooked. the fear of God is what makes us rational in our judgments and convictions.

Yeah, right.

Did you even read about Crusades? Non-Christians were MASSACRED in the name of Christ.

Or how about the slave south? All of these dudes would go to church and thought heaven was a mile away, yet they owned slaves and such.

Imprisonment is MUCH more of a feasible deterrant than "hell" will ever be.

Most people commit crimes AND THEN REPENT, thinking Jesus would take them to heaven if they went to confessions and shit. How many people do YOU know, that fornicate on a regular basis yet they believe in the Bible? Fornication is a HUGE sin in the Bible<--bigger than an abortion, or such, because it's explictly forbidden in the Bible, yet people STILL do it, because it isnt ILLEGAL to have sex before marriage in America.

The church doesn't preclude anyone from doing anything. Our constitutional laws have more of an effect on us.

Half of America doesn't even follow the Church--alot of people are secular, and wish to stay that way--->so go that way with your church policies.

PLUS, the Constitution provides that the governmental laws are separated from the Church. We all saw what kind of corruption the Catholic Church underwent during the middle ages.
streets disciple
QUOTE (SilvitaLikeWHOA @ Jun 8 2006, 01:11 PM)
and ironically everyone runs BACK to God when they feel vulnerable enough.. split God/religion from the government but soon as disaster strikes.. 'God Bless America'
and funny how even with money being the root of all evil (or so the saying goes).. money being used to pay for the war and countless other dumb shit but still says 'In God We Trust' on it dry.gif

But the thing is, we all have differenct concepts of God. Not everyone has the Christian concept of God when it comes down to it, feel me? I do agree, that having faith in God helps alleviate your burdens during tumultuous and trying times, but as I have said: almost every faith has it's own account of God, from Judaism to Taoism.
Water
I am against the media and popular culture making it seem like being a homosexual is a norm.
cryza36
I'm against this war. The military's purpose over there is irrelevent. The Iraqians can pretty much run this country on their own now. They are fully capable. People assume that Americans are superior then everyone, and Americans are better then Iraqians. That's ignorant.

I've personally, caught a lot of shit, cause I've said that Iraqins are nicer people then Americans. A lot of them I meet are very religious and nice people. So the point I'm trying to make is: I'm against people who are closeminded and think that everyone in Iraq/Iran/Saudia Arabia/Kuwait etc etc are terrorists and Anti-American. The truth couldn't be further.
SleepyG
What am I against??????

GAY PEOPLE MAKING CHILDREN FOR THEMSELVEZ.

Disgusting and wrong. Kidz made this way have NO FUCKIN FATHER!!! Even if you never met your father, atleast you know you HAD 1!!!! But not when gay people "create" life for themselvez...They dont care about how tha kid iz gonna grow up, with 2 "momz" or 2 "dadz". When 2 women do this, they want tha child to know that there was NO MAN ever involved in their life, and thats sick, itz tha other way around when 2 men do this. Homosexualz that do this are selfish, "they want a kid, but not an adopted kid". So they make 1 for themselevez....

Being gay iz NOT a chioce. I believe itz how you were born. But thatz life, and it takez a penis and vagina 2 make babiez. If you are gay, not being able to make children iz somethin you gotta live with....

Gayz adoptin??? No issue there. I used to not like tha idea at all. You know who changed my mind??? Dave Thomas-tha dude who started Wendy's, was adopted.

And before he died in 2002, he was asked about homosexual adoption. He said that if a child iz already here on earth and it needz a home, and 2 gay people have jobz to suppport tha child, and are going to love it and give it a good home, then he was all for it. I totally agree.
Kidz that are here, NEED good homez. Kidz adopted into homosexual familiez atleast KNEW that they have a father somewhere outhere...

And since homosexuality iz sumthin your born with, tha gay adultz are not gonna "turn tha kid gay".....

Homosexualz makin children to have, when there are so many that need love and a good home, just DISGUSTS me.....

nino_brown
QUOTE (DAPADON718 @ Jun 8 2006, 05:11 AM)
im against there not being any all u can eat kfc branches in ny and there arent enuff red lobster's here either..lol

and if masterbation is considered murder sign me up for the chair for all the lives i have taken..lol

laugh.gif laugh.gif

really im against woman purposlly gettin pregnant to ride on the system, then when the assistance runs out she moves to another state..SMH..it disguist's me that my tax dollars pay for that behavior and epidemic...then she uses the excuse that she a single mother and its her right to that=her talking on the phone all day, watching maury, having different men around her children, buying thongs, heels, bras, ciggerettes, weed, coke, meth on and on...you get the picture...thats female scum of the earth, and should have her vagina stitched shut..but then she would just cut it open, cause thats her meal ticket!!!
SilvitaLikeWHOA
QUOTE (nino_brown @ Jun 11 2006, 06:41 PM)

really im against woman purposlly gettin pregnant to ride on the system, then when the assistance runs out she moves to another state..SMH..it disguist's me that my tax dollars pay for that behavior and epidemic...then she uses the excuse that she a single mother and its her right to that=her talking on the phone all day, watching maury, having different men around her children, buying thongs, heels, bras, ciggerettes, weed, coke, meth on and on...you get the picture...thats female scum of the earth, and should have her vagina stitched shut..but then she would just cut it open, cause thats her meal ticket!!!

LMFAO!

but u right.. i co-sign u, my fellow tax payer

although some MALES are not too far behind.. u know those that are together with at least ONE of the above mentioned females but lie to the system by saying they separated or some shit.. the woman gets a section 8 apartment or whatever and has the man living with her.. BOTH of them not working.. what kind of man is that? blink.gif
nino_brown
true that vita..it works both ways, they just sit at home all day having sex till the next wic, and assistance money posts on the card..SMH

im all for a young single mother to use assistance for a little bit to get herself on her feet and do something with her self and her baby...but i hate fucko's that just sit on that shit, and its even sader that theyre content with living like that..its a sad cycle
WYLDCARD
personally if you are talking about a right to choose....if she chooses to have sex...she chooses to accept consequences....or she would have chose to use a rubber...females have rubbers too....you monkey ass niggas seem to forget that...and personally 9 times out of 10 when a woman ALLOWS herself to get pregnant she was trying to get pregnant in the first place and usually aborts it by persuasion of the guy or just because she was a ho who didnt know who's the father....that abortion shit should only be reserved for women who have been raped in my view....
ALPHA , OMEGA
ALL THIS TALK ABOUT CHRISTIANITY, BUT WHAT DOES THE QURAN TEACH ABOUT AORTION ?, IF AT ALL !!!!
Young Blood 89'
I'm currently against VERSE thinking Wade is better than Kobe
shaunie
I'm against old people driving! In Arizona, your license don't expire for almost 40 years. So first of all, after 40 years you damn sure don't look like you do when you first got your license, and old people don't get retested to see if they are still able to drive without endagering society.
Capella
I'm against Racism..

'Till this day people are losing oppurtunities and/or even dying because of race, color, ethnic. Its not only that but its seems like this world cannot get along. I'm tired of it and it just horrific to actually accept this society.

Like I said before I rather be in hell than live in the life where races cannot get along.
shaunie
QUOTE (Capella @ Jun 14 2006, 06:47 PM)
I'm against Racism..

'Till this day people are losing oppurtunities and/or even dying because of race, color, ethnic. Its not only that but its seems like this world cannot get along. I'm tired of it and it just horrific to actually accept this society.

Like I said before I rather be in hell than live in the life where races cannot get along.

Whats sad is that people within their own race can't even get along and discriminate against each other based on skin tone and texture of hair.
Capella
QUOTE (shaunie @ Jun 14 2006, 06:50 PM)
QUOTE (Capella @ Jun 14 2006, 06:47 PM)
I'm against Racism..

'Till this day people are losing oppurtunities and/or even dying because of race, color, ethnic. Its not only that but its seems like this world cannot get along. I'm tired of it and it just horrific to actually accept this society.

Like I said before I rather be in hell than live in the life where races cannot get along.

Whats sad is that people within their own race can't even get along and discriminate against each other based on skin tone and texture of hair.

I'm 200% with you on that.. Its ashamed isn't it..?
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