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LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Kobe Bryant has great respect for the man whose franchise records he keeps breaking.

Bryant broke Elgin Baylor's single-season scoring record with a flourish, getting 50 points Friday night in a 110-99 victory over the Portland Trail Blazers on Friday night. But he won't sit by his cell phone waiting for any congratulatory response from the Clippers' general manager, who set the mark during the 1962-63 season.

"I don't expect him to. I mean, he's with the Clippers and I'm with the Lakers," Bryant said. "But if he picks up the paper and reads about it, he should know that I owe a lot of it to him and to the other great players as well, because I really learned a lot about the game from watching them."

Bryant has been aware of Baylor ever since age 6, when his grandparents sent him a tape called "Golden Greats of the NBA." He didn't just watch it, he studied it -- over and over, year after year.

"I just steal all of their moves and incorporate them into my game," Bryant said. "I copied Elgin's first step. It's actually a `rocker' step, which is kind of a stutter move."

Bryant, closing in on his first NBA scoring title, reached the 50-point mark for the sixth time this season and 11th time in his career. The Lakers are 8-3 in those games.

He eclipsed two other franchise records this season that Baylor held -- most points in a game and most 40-point games in a season. Bryant, whose 81 points against Toronto on Jan. 22 were second-most ever in an NBA game, came in needing only 16 to surpass Baylor's mark of 2,719. He did that with 9:06 left in the third quarter, draining a 3-pointer after missing two free throws 44 seconds earlier.

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"It means a lot to me because we're playing well and we're in a position where we can get into the playoffs and make some noise," Bryant said. "We've achieved everything we have as a team, and the individual stuff just makes for a more pleasant journey."

Lamar Odom recorded his second straight triple-double. He finished with 16 points and 12 rebounds and tied a career high with 12 assists, after going 15-13-10 against Golden State on Tuesday for his first triple-double with the Lakers. He is the first player on the team with consecutive triple-doubles since December 2004, when Bryant did it against Golden State and Phoenix.

"I hope I can keep it going and take it into the playoffs," Odom said. "I'd really like to get four in a row going into the postseason. I'm just staying focused throughout the game and not letting one or two missed shots get me down. I'm just doing all the little things I need to do to win games."

Kwame Brown had 20 points and nine rebounds for the Lakers, who sent the Blazers to their 15th straight road loss with their ninth win in 12 games. The only thing that prevented Los Angeles from clinching a playoff berth was Utah's 105-104 victory over New Orleans, which was completed shortly before the Lakers and Blazers tipped off.

"We need to keep playing this way if we want to shock some people in the playoffs," Odom said. "No one had us making the playoffs -- and now we'll probably be picked to lose in the first round. So this is a lot of fun, being an underdog."

Reserve guard Martell Webster scored 18 points for the Trail Blazers, who sent forward Darius Miles home on Thursday for disciplinary reasons before losing their fifth straight overall and 30th in their last 34 games.

Miles, who spent the entire first half of Wednesday night's 97-93 loss to the Los Angeles Clippers on the bench, was punished by coach Nate McMillan for changing into his street clothes at halftime of that game. The team did not characterize the move as a suspension, but Miles' status was unknown for Saturday night's game against Golden State at the Rose Garden. He is in the second year of a six-year, $48 million contract.

Odom secured his 10th career triple-double with an assist on Bryant's 3-pointer, which gave the Lakers an 86-77 lead with 10:18 to play. Portland got as close as 88-86 on a 3-pointer by Webster with 7:38 remaining. But the Lakers responded with a 15-4 run, including nine points from Bryant, to extend the margin to 103-90 with 2:49 left.

"Right now it looks like Kobe's challenging himself in the fourth quarter to see if he can just dominate," Portland coach Nate McMillan said. "Before we could even get a double-team on him, the ball was released. And there's not much more you can do about that."

Notes

A victory on Sunday against Phoenix would keep Phil Jackson's perfect record as an NBA head coach intact -- guiding a team to the playoffs for the 15th time in 15 tries without ever finishing the regular season with a losing record. ... The Trail Blazers have won only 15 of 81 road games over the last two seasons. They are a league-worst 6-34 this season away from the Rose Garden, and are assured of finishing with their worst road record since going 5-36 in 1973-74.
Beverly_Hills_G
who gives a FUCK gluvnast. quit riding kobes dick
Question Mark
Im surprised that baylor had that single season scoring record, i would have thought it was wilt or west but then i remember that wilt was like 33 or something when he went to the lakers and west always had baylor on his team
DeadEye
Thats Good... Im Happy For Kobe, Hes Making History
gluvnast
i thought elgin baylor was there BEFORE jerry west

i know west and WILT were teamed together and they HAD before the '96 bulls, held the season winning record


gluvnast
QUOTE (DeadEye @ Apr 15 2006, 02:34 PM)
Thats Good... Im Happy For Kobe, Hes Making History

yea...kobe is having his best season thus far, and possibly ever

Question Mark
nah they were on the same team remember the season the lakers had the 33 game winning streak it started after the game elgin baylor retired and i know west was not a rookie that season
Beverly_Hills_G
mah boy here in beverly should be in the NBA . he choosin the street life though. it really a sad thing
gluvnast
QUOTE (Question Mark @ Apr 15 2006, 02:38 PM)
nah they were on the same team remember the season the lakers had the 33 game winning streak it started after the game elgin baylor retired and i know west was not a rookie that season

yea..that was the '72 season...the same one i was talking about when wilt came to the team and they set that season record...
Beverly_Hills_G
gluvnast u punk rap battle me
gluvnast
hey question mark..i checked it out, you was right i was wrong


@ beverly..lemee see your skills and i'll decide from there
Beverly_Hills_G
gluvnast is fat
and hes wack
and smokes crack
better watch your back
or i will attack
straight up fire bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gluvnast
i rip when i rhyme
i rhyme when i rip
Beverly_Hills_G
your shit is WACK mayne!!!!!!!!!lol u garbage
gluvnast
QUOTE (Beverly_Hills_G @ Apr 15 2006, 02:50 PM)
your shit is WACK mayne!!!!!!!!!lol u garbage

thnks for the compliment
Beverly_Hills_G
just tellin da truth mayne dont get all emotional
ThaShizzit
Kobe 4 MVP
gluvnast
QUOTE (ThaShizzit @ Apr 15 2006, 03:03 PM)
Kobe 4 MVP

yea, but they're still gonig to give it to nash



i dunno where this idea came from that the one with the best NBA record deserves to MVP award...but i wouldn't be mad if nash DOES get it...but i know it's more due to politics than anything else
Phuck Off
Jordan>>>>>>>>Kobe
Lebron>>>>>>>>Kobe
D-Wade>>>>>>>Kobe
Tim Duncan>>>>Kobe
gluvnast
QUOTE (Phuck Off @ Apr 15 2006, 03:18 PM)
Jordan>>>>>>>>Kobe
Lebron>>>>>>>>Kobe
D-Wade>>>>>>>Kobe
Tim Duncan>>>>Kobe

jordan, obviously

lebron, not yet...give him a few years

wade, getting there, but not yet

duncan, a few years ago, but duncan isn't even the best player of his team right now
boxingking3000
kobe deserves mvp he the only player doing something on his team and still gonna make the playoffs. and if you break the scoring record on the lakers team, that shows you had a great season
gluvnast
QUOTE (boxingking3000 @ Apr 15 2006, 05:00 PM)
kobe deserves mvp he the only player doing something on his team and still gonna make the playoffs. and if you break the scoring record on the lakers team, that shows you had a great season

or scoring 81 points in a game

or 65 in ONLY three quarters against an elite team

or for the past two weeks having a scoring average of 41 ppg



and STILL make the playoffs because of that...that's a great season
DeadEye
QUOTE (gluvnast @ Apr 15 2006, 03:32 PM)

duncan, a few years ago, but duncan isn't even the best player of his team right now

Then Who Is THe Best IN His Team .... Parker ??
Enigma
QUOTE (DeadEye @ Apr 15 2006, 05:08 PM)
QUOTE (gluvnast @ Apr 15 2006, 03:32 PM)

duncan, a few years ago, but duncan isn't even the best player of his team right now

Then Who Is THe Best IN His Team .... Parker ??

YES!!!


@Gluv....I don't know if I would say KB8 is better than LeBron OVERALL...UNDERLINING overall. I think KB8 has slightly better defense and is a better last second clutch shooter....But would say Bron is better in the aspect of creating shots for OTHER PEOPLE, assist, and leadership. I love KB8's game...but it seems that he has NEVER gotten over himself. He only creates shots for other players in games once in a blue moon...and I bet he does it on purpose being that e knows he's a ball hog....AND He plays way too fragile when it comes to being physical to me. I me MJ was the same size and he put his body on the line more than DOUBLE what KB8 does....KB8 just emulates MJ's control off contact.


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gluvnast
that's where i disagree with... the leadership

i remember only a few months ago, people was questioning if lebron CAN be a leader or if he WANTS to be a leader....

kobe on the other hand, have no choice BUT to lead...which is why the lakers are in where they are in right now...

i WILL agree that lebron is a better TEAM player...but damn near ANYONE is when you speak of kobe....lol
Multiple Roundz
Congrats to Kobe.
Enigma
QUOTE (gluvnast @ Apr 15 2006, 06:31 PM)
that's where i disagree with... the leadership

i remember only a few months ago, people was questioning if lebron CAN be a leader or if he WANTS to be a leader....

kobe on the other hand, have no choice BUT to lead...which is why the lakers are in where they are in right now...

i WILL agree that lebron is a better TEAM player...but damn near ANYONE is when you speak of kobe....lol

I think cats only say that about Bron because he don't take and/or hit game winning shots. Other than that..he does what KB8 does offensively...BUT MORE!

And that is stat proven

I think KB8 has what I call LEAVERSHIP...and not LEADERSHIP, because he leaves his teammates behind. I don't call that leadership at all.
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nastynasescobar
QUOTE (Enigma @ Apr 15 2006, 08:33 PM)
QUOTE (gluvnast @ Apr 15 2006, 06:31 PM)
that's where i disagree with... the leadership

i remember only a few months ago, people was questioning if lebron CAN be a leader or if he WANTS to be a leader....

kobe on the other hand, have no choice BUT to lead...which is why the lakers are in where they are in right now...

i WILL agree that lebron is a better TEAM player...but damn near ANYONE is when you speak of kobe....lol

I think cats only say that about Bron because he don't take and/or hit game winning shots. Other than that..he does what KB8 does offensively...BUT MORE!

And that is stat proven

I think KB8 has what I call LEAVERSHIP...and not LEADERSHIP, because he leaves his teammates behind. I don't call that leadership at all.
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How does he does more offesively when Kobe is killing everybody averaging 35 pts the last person to do that MJ. He has elevated smush and Kwame. Kobe is not selfish he does what he teams needs him to win when they were winning kobe was a better defensive player because that's what he was asked and needed now they don't have any scorers so Kobe needs to take the shots.
Multiple Roundz
I don't think he's elevated smush and how has he elevated Kwame? Dude still a bum.
streets disciple
Kobe is a narcissistic ball hogger.

Bron or Nash for MVP, easily.
Question Mark
QUOTE (Multiple Roundz @ Apr 15 2006, 10:18 PM)
I don't think he's elevated smush and how has he elevated Kwame? Dude still a bum.

he HAS elevated them seeing as smush should be sorry since he came out of the d-league and drops 11 points a game and has a great game once in a while, and kwame is playing the best ball of his life so what are YOU talking about, he takes pressure off of them since he gets doubled and triple so much. Also props to Phil Jackson
Enigma
QUOTE (nastynasescobar @ Apr 15 2006, 08:43 PM)

How does he does more offesively when Kobe is killing everybody averaging 35 pts the last person to do that MJ. He has elevated smush and Kwame. Kobe is not selfish he does what he teams needs him to win when they were winning kobe was a better defensive player because that's what he was asked and needed now they don't have any scorers so Kobe needs to take the shots.

Add Bron's scoring avg.+ his assist avg and KB8's and you will see what I'm talking about....not to even mention offensive rebounds.

Not to take anything away from KB8 though cause he is a fucking beast!


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gluvnast
hey that's no secret about kobe being a ball hogs...in truth its sorta played when you make triple doubles every now and then, but no arguement on kobe NOT being the team type player....

but AI ball hogs just as much as kobe and HE was once considered MVP, but doing whut he does...and kobe these days REALLY don't have a choice, considering how disappointing brown has been career-wise, as well as odem...yet somehow they gotten BETTER when kobe's around...last game when kobe scored 50, kwame actually scored 20 and lamar had a triple double...

the thing is that EVERYBODY knows that the ball is going to KOBE...yet kobe still somehow getting these lakers to the playoffs...

nash IS goig to get MVP, but the most deserving is KOBE, because not only he's breaking NBA and franchise records, he's making the TEAM better at the sametime...that's more than whut nash is doing, nash maybe leading the team, but that's like calling big ben from the steelers leading the way without THE BUS...they're STILL A GREAT TEAM either way.....

as for lebron, the inconsistency he had during mid-season is going to hurt him, whether you like it or not, taking charge in game time decisions ARE key in picking MVP...and people SHOULDN'T look at whut the players have done recently and look at whut they done ALL season...

said this before, NOBODY this season have done more than kobe...people take more focus on TEAM record than the individual themselves....i look at the person that's MOST VALUABLE to the team as well as the NBA...and kobe fits that bill
Enigma
QUOTE (Question Mark @ Apr 15 2006, 09:50 PM)
QUOTE (Multiple Roundz @ Apr 15 2006, 10:18 PM)
I don't think he's elevated smush and how has he elevated Kwame? Dude still a bum.

he HAS elevated them seeing as smush should be sorry since he came out of the d-league and drops 11 points a game and has a great game once in a while, and kwame is playing the best ball of his life so what are YOU talking about, he takes pressure off of them since he gets doubled and triple so much. Also props to Phil Jackson

To say "The best ball of his life" isn't saying much if you talkin bout NBA career...being that he was a NUMBER 1 OVERALL DRAFT PICK!!!



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gluvnast
QUOTE (Enigma @ Apr 15 2006, 10:55 PM)
QUOTE (Question Mark @ Apr 15 2006, 09:50 PM)
QUOTE (Multiple Roundz @ Apr 15 2006, 10:18 PM)
I don't think he's elevated smush and how has he elevated Kwame? Dude still a bum.

he HAS elevated them seeing as smush should be sorry since he came out of the d-league and drops 11 points a game and has a great game once in a while, and kwame is playing the best ball of his life so what are YOU talking about, he takes pressure off of them since he gets doubled and triple so much. Also props to Phil Jackson

To say "The best ball of his life" isn't saying much if you talkin bout NBA career...being that he was a NUMBER 1 OVERALL DRAFT PICK!!!



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that was JORDAN's mistake...he's maybe the greatest to play the game, but he don;t know SHIT about picking talent

Question Mark
QUOTE (Enigma @ Apr 15 2006, 10:55 PM)
QUOTE (Question Mark @ Apr 15 2006, 09:50 PM)
QUOTE (Multiple Roundz @ Apr 15 2006, 10:18 PM)
I don't think he's elevated smush and how has he elevated Kwame? Dude still a bum.

he HAS elevated them seeing as smush should be sorry since he came out of the d-league and drops 11 points a game and has a great game once in a while, and kwame is playing the best ball of his life so what are YOU talking about, he takes pressure off of them since he gets doubled and triple so much. Also props to Phil Jackson

To say "The best ball of his life" isn't saying much if you talkin bout NBA career...being that he was a NUMBER 1 OVERALL DRAFT PICK!!!



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well he still is steppin up he should be a force in a couple of years along with lamar odom and smush parker and then it will be a 32 year old kobe with a good center, along with a more mature lamar odom, and smush parker
Question Mark
QUOTE (gluvnast @ Apr 15 2006, 11:00 PM)
QUOTE (Enigma @ Apr 15 2006, 10:55 PM)
QUOTE (Question Mark @ Apr 15 2006, 09:50 PM)
QUOTE (Multiple Roundz @ Apr 15 2006, 10:18 PM)
I don't think he's elevated smush and how has he elevated Kwame? Dude still a bum.

he HAS elevated them seeing as smush should be sorry since he came out of the d-league and drops 11 points a game and has a great game once in a while, and kwame is playing the best ball of his life so what are YOU talking about, he takes pressure off of them since he gets doubled and triple so much. Also props to Phil Jackson

To say "The best ball of his life" isn't saying much if you talkin bout NBA career...being that he was a NUMBER 1 OVERALL DRAFT PICK!!!



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that was JORDAN's mistake...he's maybe the greatest to play the game, but he don;t know SHIT about picking talent

along with elgin baylor, and kevin mchale and danny ainge, and isiah thomas
Enigma
QUOTE (Question Mark @ Apr 15 2006, 10:04 PM)

well he still is steppin up he should be a force in a couple of years along with lamar odom and smush parker and then it will be a 32 year old kobe with a good center, along with a more mature lamar odom, and smush parker

How many years you talkin???..That would be if the center's are the same as they are now....and he will be in like his 8th year.....another Kandiman....NOT A FORCE...just somewhat productive on surprise nights.



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gluvnast
kwame brown is WACK, but that even backs my claim up that kobe have no choice BUT to take it upon his shoulders...and you have to admit, there are nights like the last game where kobe made brown look halfway decent...

like i said before, if nash was out...the suns STILL have a possibility, not a GREAT possibility, but a possibility of making the playoffs...

you saw whut happened with the cavs without lebron, they STILL played a decent game...

the lakers without KOBE???? they would of been one of the WORST in the league...and that's not remotely an exaggeration
Question Mark
QUOTE (Enigma @ Apr 15 2006, 11:11 PM)
QUOTE (Question Mark @ Apr 15 2006, 10:04 PM)

well he still is steppin up he should be a force in a couple of years along with lamar odom and smush parker and then it will be a 32 year old kobe with a good center, along with a more mature lamar odom, and smush parker

How many years you talkin???..That would be if the center's are the same as they are now....and he will be in like his 8th year.....another Kandiman....NOT A FORCE...just somewhat productive on surprise nights.



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come on man u think kwame is still gonna be sorry in 5 years with phil jackson as coach and i think kareem abdul jabbar tutoring him?
Question Mark
oh yeah and andrew bynum might also be a beast too hes on the come up his bench max has come from like 135 on draft night to 215 so hes improving
TheArtist
Kobe is the only one with the heart to try and be better than everybody else.......he's chasin Mike right now for 50 point games in a single season, he got 6, Mike got 8, Kobe 'll score 50 tomorrow.....Dantoni will let 'em score, but defend everyone else......he's only 27, dude got like 7 more strong years,he'll be on top of the mountain.........
Question Mark
^^hope ur not saying hell be better than jordan in a couple of years
Enigma
Yes I'm sayin Kwame will still be no better than Kandiman in 5 years! I'm not sayin that Kandi hasn't done shit because he is a good contributor every now and then...But that's it! Bynum, I think he will surpass Kwame in no later than 3 yrs from now.



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Multiple Roundz
QUOTE (Question Mark @ Apr 15 2006, 09:50 PM)
QUOTE (Multiple Roundz @ Apr 15 2006, 10:18 PM)
I don't think he's elevated smush and how has he elevated Kwame? Dude still a bum.

he HAS elevated them seeing as smush should be sorry since he came out of the d-league and drops 11 points a game and has a great game once in a while, and kwame is playing the best ball of his life so what are YOU talking about, he takes pressure off of them since he gets doubled and triple so much. Also props to Phil Jackson

LMFAO best ball of his life? He's averaging 7.2 ppg oppose to 7 from last year. He's rebounding a bit better, but that's it. The Lakers don't have big bodies that can rebound like the Wizards did so there you go. And I wouldn't see Kobe has much to do with Smush's improvement. He hasn't been a starter for long and now he is.
Enigma
Nah man KB(whatever his number is) is a BEAST MAN!!!! LMAO laugh.gif


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Question Mark
QUOTE (Multiple Roundz @ Apr 16 2006, 03:47 PM)
QUOTE (Question Mark @ Apr 15 2006, 09:50 PM)
QUOTE (Multiple Roundz @ Apr 15 2006, 10:18 PM)
I don't think he's elevated smush and how has he elevated Kwame? Dude still a bum.

he HAS elevated them seeing as smush should be sorry since he came out of the d-league and drops 11 points a game and has a great game once in a while, and kwame is playing the best ball of his life so what are YOU talking about, he takes pressure off of them since he gets doubled and triple so much. Also props to Phil Jackson

LMFAO best ball of his life? He's averaging 7.2 ppg oppose to 7 from last year. He's rebounding a bit better, but that's it. The Lakers don't have big bodies that can rebound like the Wizards did so there you go. And I wouldn't see Kobe has much to do with Smush's improvement. He hasn't been a starter for long and now he is.

oftentimes stats dont tell the whole story kwame has gotten better and has been stepping up his game in the past weeks, how do u expect him to drop a lot of points seeing as kobe or odom, or smush gets the ball most of the time

oh yea i know ur happy the bulls are going to the playoffs, i dont know how they do it, i guess thats the eastern conference for you
Multiple Roundz
QUOTE (Question Mark @ Apr 16 2006, 09:31 PM)
QUOTE (Multiple Roundz @ Apr 16 2006, 03:47 PM)
QUOTE (Question Mark @ Apr 15 2006, 09:50 PM)
QUOTE (Multiple Roundz @ Apr 15 2006, 10:18 PM)
I don't think he's elevated smush and how has he elevated Kwame? Dude still a bum.

he HAS elevated them seeing as smush should be sorry since he came out of the d-league and drops 11 points a game and has a great game once in a while, and kwame is playing the best ball of his life so what are YOU talking about, he takes pressure off of them since he gets doubled and triple so much. Also props to Phil Jackson

LMFAO best ball of his life? He's averaging 7.2 ppg oppose to 7 from last year. He's rebounding a bit better, but that's it. The Lakers don't have big bodies that can rebound like the Wizards did so there you go. And I wouldn't see Kobe has much to do with Smush's improvement. He hasn't been a starter for long and now he is.

oftentimes stats dont tell the whole story kwame has gotten better and has been stepping up his game in the past weeks, how do u expect him to drop a lot of points seeing as kobe or odom, or smush gets the ball most of the time

oh yea i know ur happy the bulls are going to the playoffs, i dont know how they do it, i guess thats the eastern conference for you

It's our determination. cool.gif I'm hoping they get the 7th or 6th spot.
Question Mark
QUOTE (Multiple Roundz @ Apr 16 2006, 10:37 PM)
QUOTE (Question Mark @ Apr 16 2006, 09:31 PM)
QUOTE (Multiple Roundz @ Apr 16 2006, 03:47 PM)
QUOTE (Question Mark @ Apr 15 2006, 09:50 PM)
QUOTE (Multiple Roundz @ Apr 15 2006, 10:18 PM)
I don't think he's elevated smush and how has he elevated Kwame? Dude still a bum.

he HAS elevated them seeing as smush should be sorry since he came out of the d-league and drops 11 points a game and has a great game once in a while, and kwame is playing the best ball of his life so what are YOU talking about, he takes pressure off of them since he gets doubled and triple so much. Also props to Phil Jackson

LMFAO best ball of his life? He's averaging 7.2 ppg oppose to 7 from last year. He's rebounding a bit better, but that's it. The Lakers don't have big bodies that can rebound like the Wizards did so there you go. And I wouldn't see Kobe has much to do with Smush's improvement. He hasn't been a starter for long and now he is.

oftentimes stats dont tell the whole story kwame has gotten better and has been stepping up his game in the past weeks, how do u expect him to drop a lot of points seeing as kobe or odom, or smush gets the ball most of the time

oh yea i know ur happy the bulls are going to the playoffs, i dont know how they do it, i guess thats the eastern conference for you

It's our determination. cool.gif I'm hoping they get the 7th or 6th spot.

lol cause you know theyre screwed if they face detroit
TheArtist
kobe's breakin all records xcept field goal percentage, assists, rebounds........
oh this is my new name , old name is ROLAND laugh.gif

ROLAND , WHAT A FUKED UP NAME
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