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ATL Undagrind
Somebody said that they consider Mexicans different from all other Hispanic people, but when most outsiders use these words interchangeablely. Why are Mexicans not considered Hispanic?


Also, why is Latin America called that? Latin was the language of the Romans. That always baffled me?


Thanks in advanced for a little cultural enlightenment.
jen luvs bush
QUOTE (ATL Undagrind @ Sep 30 2005, 09:09 AM)
Somebody said that they consider Mexicans different from all other Hispanic people, but when most outsiders use these words interchangeablely. Why are Mexicans not considered Hispanic?


Also, why is Latin America called that? Latin was the language of the Romans. That always baffled me?


Thanks in advanced for a little cultural enlightenment.

the person who said that- finesse- is talking non-sense- i've always thought mexicans as latin people
ATL Undagrind
but why is it called Latin America?
Setsotama
because..........well........



Majority of America is greedy and want to rule/take over everything, thats why they classify it as, Latin American


just like, African American, its the most nicest way to say what they REALLY wanna call us, and we all know what that "word" is.....
jen luvs bush
QUOTE (ATL Undagrind @ Sep 30 2005, 09:16 AM)
but why is it called Latin America?

maybe cuz many people from rome/spain went to south america

spainsh language come from the orgins of latin
Frosty
I Say Cause They're racist fucks! eavry single latin that comes to this country they end up caliing them mexican names and other shit
jen luvs bush
QUOTE (Frosty @ Sep 30 2005, 09:32 AM)
I Say Cause They're racist fucks! eavry single latin that comes to this country they end up caliing them mexican names and other shit

yo i swear i live in nj- and i see mad mexicans and I always think " those damn illegals" i know it's bad but.............. yup i just feel that
ATL Undagrind
i think it is because that area was ruled by rome during the time of the roman empire, but I am not sure.


@ Frosty - I feel your pain, but I am not sure. The word Hispanic means "of Spain". So if you are not from Spain, wouldn't it be just as bad as Mexican? It may be better to just call the people by where they are from or if you dont know, just say brown people (is that considered negative)

I come to this conclusion because that is what people do for black people.
Why call us African American when some black people come from Europe? If you say because all black people originated in Africa, I would counter by saying that all people originated in Africa, so are we all African Americans? To avoid confusion, people just call us black people (and of course this is not considered negative).


Thanks for all of the responses.


P.S. I think dont have a solid answer to the Latin thing.
jen luvs bush
QUOTE (ATL Undagrind @ Sep 30 2005, 09:40 AM)
So if you are not from Spain, wouldn't it be just as bad as Mexican? It may be better to just call the people by where they are from or if you dont know, just say brown people (is that considered negative)

I come to this conclusion because that is what people do for black people.
Why call us African American when some black people come from Europe? If you say because all black people originated in Africa, I would counter by saying that all people originated in Africa, so are we all African Americans? To avoid confusion, people just call us black people (and of course this is not considered negative).

answer to the Latin thing.

i don't like calling people "black or white" i just say miss or sir- if u look at latin people they come in many differnet ways- good hair, hard to comb hard hair, culry hair, light, dark, skin- latin people is like the sum of every race.
Frosty
@Jen


Illegals?............To Let You Know Black And White PPl Didnt Come From This Country....................White PPl Jacked These Lands From Them Indians....And Black PPL Were Brought Here By White PPL From Africa

So Just To Let You Know Homeboy No One Is Consider Ilegal Here!
Thats My Final Word
jen luvs bush
QUOTE (Frosty @ Sep 30 2005, 09:52 AM)
@Jen


Illegals?............To Let You Know Black And White PPl Didnt Come From This Country....................White PPl Jacked These Lands From Them Indians....And Black PPL Were Brought Here By White PPL From Africa

So Just To Let You Know Homeboy No One Is Consider Ilegal Here!

omg...man f those text books- not all the land were stolen by the "white" man
yea people r consider illgeal here and they need to go back home
Frosty
dry.gif You Racist Prik
jen luvs bush
QUOTE (Frosty @ Sep 30 2005, 09:57 AM)
dry.gif You Racist Prik

stfu- i pay taxes- do u ? u could be 14 yr old kid who know nothing bout goverment money flow- young ass fall back
ATL Undagrind
dont do this in this thread. i am trying to learn something here.
jen luvs bush
QUOTE (ATL Undagrind @ Sep 30 2005, 10:08 AM)
dont do this in this thread. i am trying to learn something here.

the real question is why do u care?????
ATL Undagrind
QUOTE (Setsotama @ Sep 30 2005, 09:22 AM)
because..........well........



Majority of America is greedy and want to rule/take over everything, thats why they classify it as, Latin American


just like, African American, its the most nicest way to say what they REALLY wanna call us, and we all know what that "word" is.....

I even looked it up and the encyclopedia does not have an explanation. Oh well, I guess it will remain a mystery. Thanks for all the responses.
WESTCOAST
IS JUST IF YOU SAY ALL BLACK PEOPLE A AFRICAN AMERICAN .................

NOT TRUE



THATS WHY WE HAVE EARN OUR OWN NAME ''MEXICANS''
WESTCOAST
QUOTE (Popov @ Sep 30 2005, 04:07 PM)
When you think Hispanic most people do think Mexican .....kinda like how every Asian dude is called Chinese laugh.gif

HAHAHAHA .............TRUE WE BE LIKE ESE CHINITO .......(THE LIL ASIAN )
streets disciple
Jen you need to chill out with the racist comments

That shit was unneccessary. Frosty, her account will be banned, I already notified Jason.
Rascar
QUOTE (jen luvs bush @ Sep 30 2005, 09:23 AM)
QUOTE (ATL Undagrind @ Sep 30 2005, 09:16 AM)
but why is it called Latin America?

maybe cuz many people from rome/spain went to south america

spainsh language come from the orgins of latin

rome? is a city...SPAIN is a country...wtf are you taling about...and aint been no romans for thousands of years....Rome people are italians now..Spain was the Iberian Peninsule....and yes Itlaians went to Argentina and Uraguy but that aint got nutn to do with nutn...u really should check on ur facts...cuz u just talked shit right now
Rascar
QUOTE (jen luvs bush @ Sep 30 2005, 09:23 AM)
QUOTE (ATL Undagrind @ Sep 30 2005, 09:16 AM)
but why is it called Latin America?

maybe cuz many people from rome/spain went to south america

spainsh language come from the orgins of latin

and if thats the case...so is french n french is closer to the roots of latin than spanish is....Portugese and italian being the closest...but dnt nobody call the Haitians Latin....so wtf are u talkin about?
streets disciple
The spanish language is a hybrid of many different languages, one of them is Latin, but to call that whole region latin america is a stretch, because ROME was decimated around 1300, the muslims took that over(the ottoman empire, etc). Spain started conquering the new world in 1492, the romans didn't conquer the new world, they didnt even exist for that matter by the 1500's.
Rascar
QUOTE (ATL Undagrind @ Sep 30 2005, 09:40 AM)
i think it is because that area was ruled by rome during the time of the roman empire, but I am not sure.


@ Frosty - I feel your pain, but I am not sure. The word Hispanic means "of Spain". So if you are not from Spain, wouldn't it be just as bad as Mexican? It may be better to just call the people by where they are from or if you dont know, just say brown people (is that considered negative)

I come to this conclusion because that is what people do for black people.
Why call us African American when some black people come from Europe? If you say because all black people originated in Africa, I would counter by saying that all people originated in Africa, so are we all African Americans? To avoid confusion, people just call us black people (and of course this is not considered negative).


Thanks for all of the responses.


P.S. I think dont have a solid answer to the Latin thing.

Hispanic is Portugese as well...Spanish n Portugese..both languages cultivated from the Iberian peninsule...seeing as Portugese is broken spanish...well thats wheree it evolved frm...Portugal used to be part of spain..Portugal never existed..it was all spain...

in spain they got so many dialects of spanish but the official main one is called "Espanol Castillano" Castillian spanish,...which is what Latinos speak in the Americas..but theres also other dialects of spanish...like the spanish they speak in the south of France.,..in a city called Andorra...they speak a dialect of spanish n french...its a real kool mix...n portugese was another dialect..that evolved..Rome never ruled South america...they were wiped out more than 1000+ years before the colonisations happened..yall really need ta check ur facts
Rascar
QUOTE (streets disciple @ Sep 30 2005, 04:26 PM)
The spanish language is a hybrid of many different languages, one of them is Latin, but to call that whole region latin america is a stretch, because ROME was decimated around 1300, the muslims took that over(the ottoman empire, etc). Spain started conquering the new world in 1492, the romans didn't conquer the new world, they didnt even exist for that matter by the 1500's.

true.,.its also a hybrid of Persian and ESPECIALLY ARAB...most of the definitive articles like EL and Al and so much more shit...cuz the persians invaded there n the moors (from morroco) too...so yea..not just Latin....but its MAINLY that...
SilvitaLikeWHOA
QUOTE (Frosty @ Sep 30 2005, 09:57 AM)
dry.gif You Racist Prik

user posted image im proud of u Frosty.. u didnt fire back and now as u see Calles did something about her wink.gif
streets disciple
QUOTE (Rascar @ Sep 30 2005, 04:35 PM)
QUOTE (streets disciple @ Sep 30 2005, 04:26 PM)
The spanish language is a hybrid of many different languages, one of them is Latin, but to call that whole region latin america is a stretch, because ROME was decimated around 1300, the muslims took that over(the ottoman empire, etc). Spain started conquering the new world in 1492, the romans didn't conquer the new world, they didnt even exist for that matter by the 1500's.

true.,.its also a hybrid of Persian and ESPECIALLY ARAB...most of the definitive articles like EL and Al and so much more shit...cuz the persians invaded there n the moors (from morroco) too...so yea..not just Latin....but its MAINLY that...

word, but i dont al is a definite article, cuz Al is a mixture of A and el, so they fused the indefinite and definite article together

But yeah your right
Rascar
yea tru..i forgot that...
streets disciple
BTW

Those whoa re interestedt about the jen situation

I sent Jason a pm to today with the link to this thread

She is officially banned now.

QUOTE
banned.

Jason
mr jiffo
forever?
SilvitaLikeWHOA
QUOTE (mr jiffo @ Sep 30 2005, 06:22 PM)
forever?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif .... i bet Jiffo got his fingers crossed right now waitin for Calles' response laugh.gif
Frosty
Just Got Back From School............I See I Lost Track
streets disciple
he prolly banned her IP

so yeah i think thats what it means
Frosty
QUOTE (streets disciple @ Sep 30 2005, 06:54 PM)


Thanks Homie
Cuffs2g
The reason latin america is latin america is cuz they were made by spain and because spain spoke spanish (spanish being a romance language meaning it was derived from latin that the romans spoke) And the region was known as america the west calld it Latin America.

Spain speaks the closest language to the ancient Romans since that area was settled by the visigoths given to them by romans, In the times of Colonialism spainish and latin were interchangable,
nastynasescobar
Nice to see Jen out of here we don't need racist ppl here.
lying
QUOTE (nastynasescobar @ Sep 30 2005, 08:54 PM)
Nice to see Jen out of here we don't need racist ppl here.

u insane man?- i said people who r illegal- not white,latin,black people- should be kicked out- there r laws in this country- do u know that?
ohboy
but who says every mexican u see is illegal. u said when u see one u think 'those damn illegals'


anyway, i think all americans should be referred to as 'americans' no need for that latin- african- stuff
lying
QUOTE (ohboy @ Sep 30 2005, 09:10 PM)
but who says every mexican u see is illegal. u said when u see one u think 'those damn illegals'

i never said every- i said when i see them- i think that there is a good chance- and there is- cuz u know bush could care less- that they r illegal- i mean it's a fact that mexicans r the largest latin race here- - i'm not degrading anyone- hell i would jump the boarder too. -i mean puerto ricans r consider american citzens but yet mexicans out do them in number- that's not odd to u?
Frosty
Someone Band This Fool's IP
ohboy
ok so when u see a mexican u think theyre illegal, thats exactly the same as saying 'every mexican i see' bcuz whenever u see one u think theyre illegal, which means every mexican... blink.gif

user posted image
lying
QUOTE (Frosty @ Sep 30 2005, 09:30 PM)
Someone Band This Fool's IP

not only can u not read but...... how old r u????

laugh.gif man i'm done "beefing" so lame so lameeeeeeeeee lol
lying
QUOTE (ohboy @ Sep 30 2005, 09:37 PM)
ok so when u see a mexican u think theyre illegal, thats exactly the same as saying 'every mexican i see' bcuz whenever u see one u think theyre illegal, which means every mexican...ok im going in circles

user posted image

Main Entry: rac·ism Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-Function: noun1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
- rac·ist /-sist also -shist/ noun or adjective Pronunication Key

ph34r.gif laugh.gif
dry.gif
ohboy
i knew u were gonna come with a dictionary meaning of racism to somehow show that ur not racist. it is prejudice to perceive a person as inferior to u, thinking they must be illegal because they are of a certain race or color, which is racism
lying
QUOTE (ohboy @ Sep 30 2005, 09:43 PM)
i knew u were gonna come with a dictionary meaning of racism to somehow show that ur not racist. it is prejudice to perceive a person as inferior to u, thinking they must be illegal because they are of a certain race or color, which is racism

No because it'a fact....don't bash me cuz i speak for many people- many people- in Az there was a law of not giving illegal walfare and many latin people supported the law -so r they racist?- come on if u saw a chick wearing a tank top with cut off jeans and no shoes and its -8,977,666,777 degrees out, and u see her every day walking the same block. going into people car- what would u think?- people always think suff- that doesn't mean anything- the problem is if u r going to beat, denied something to someone then there is the problem. and don't take my post wrong like some soft people in here- i speak for many people-many. and relax i showed u the meaning of the word cuz u didn't have any knowledge of what u were saying
ohboy
yes u r entitled to ur own opinion, racism isnt illegal. but just bcuz u share the same opinions as MANY others doesnt make u any less of an ignorant bitch
lying
it a fact- u taking thi sreally hard huh? hell r u an illegal? ph34r.gif - i care for this country- that's all- don't want people taken advantaged of and don't want my taxs payer money going to waste- but then again do u care? dry.gif sloppy
ohboy
i care for the country aswell. but bcuz u look at a mexican and think 'theyre probably illegal' somehow makes u a better citizen? u said in the same post, its bad to think that, so why are u now recanting. not every illegal immigrant is mexican, they come in all forms
lying
QUOTE (ohboy @ Sep 30 2005, 10:04 PM)
i care for the country aswell. but bcuz u look at a mexican and think 'theyre probably illegal' somehow makes u a better citizen? u said in the same post, its bad to think that, so why are u now recanting. not every illegal immigrant is mexican, they come in all forms

look - whatever- Victence Fox the - mexican president needs to do something and so do the mexicans people- look at this country! all the horrible suff African Americans did to have right- and even in other coutries- why can't mexicans demanded more things for their goverment- u know why? cuz the officals steal everything- did u know that? well did u. I never said i'm better cuz I'm not- i'm sad for the suff they go through- Ex- our policy with Cuba is dumb as hell either u let them come by plane - or say no- do u know how many people died from Cuba trying to reach the states? ph34r.gif
ohboy
i have no idea what point ur trying to make anymore. ur sad for the ppl that live in terrible conditions but when they come to ur country to start a better life, ur like 'get the fuck outta here' but they take on a lot of jobs that noone else wants to do, they still contribute to the country.
lying
u sound like a liberal

then start a revolution then .

give all you'r money to those people

fight and tell the poor people here that " hey u can wait but those people can't"

my parents came here legally even when things were bad- so fall way back
dummy- of course u don't care they not taking you'r job- so u like "oh f- it" omggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
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