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Toxic
is there anyone that lyrically has surpassed biggie or come close to him
the one
Are you serious??? Nas was better than Big when he was alive, lyrically. I can name a couple more dudes too! Big was one of the nicest, dont get me wrong!
Bone Collecta
Rakim
Big Daddy Kane
KRS
Common
Andre 3000


not many are better than biggie hes up there in the elite category
Iron Mic
Rakim
Kool G Rap
Jay-z
Nas
KRs-one

thats all that comes to mind.
Toxic
QUOTE (the one @ Sep 15 2005, 02:01 PM)
Are you serious??? Nas was better than Big when he was alive, lyrically. I can name a couple more dudes too! Big was one of the nicest, dont get me wrong!

well ya i dont consuder dude #1 i think hes tight if he woulda had more time just like pun too pun was tight but a lot of dudes be saying dat aint no one better dan biggie and pac which is bull to me
jayhustler
lol @ this thread..
Bone Collecta
Jay-z is NOT better than Big you dumb asses
the one
Shit, Pun was lyrically nicer than Big. Too. Pac I dont consider a lyricist so I wouldnt say him. Pac Is on another level with his shit!

Edit: Jay z sure the hell aint better than Big!
Setsotama
Jay-Z wanna be like Big



but lemme see here, this is my opinion on this:

Nas
Rakim
KRS-One (this dude lives for battles)
Iron Mic
QUOTE (Bone Collecta @ Sep 15 2005, 02:07 PM)
Jay-z is NOT better than Big you dumb asses

shut up dumbass, Jay is definently at least on his level, if not better. Honestly what is it about him that has you so vexed man?
Toxic
ok but y can there be a thread about no ones better than pac when there was was pac better than biggie??

jayhustler
QUOTE (Iron Mic @ Sep 15 2005, 02:09 PM)
shut up dumbass, Jay is definently at least on his level, if not better. Honestly what is it about him that has you so vexed man?

IronMic, don't even waste your time with that moron...

This ENTIRE site gets an erection dissing Jay-Z..

Besides, Jay was better than B.I.G when he was alive..
Toxic
"if i aint better than big im the closest one" jay-z



cosign
Bone Collecta
QUOTE (jayhustler @ Sep 15 2005, 02:13 PM)
QUOTE (Iron Mic @ Sep 15 2005, 02:09 PM)
shut up dumbass, Jay is definently at least on his level, if not better. Honestly what is it about him that has you so vexed man?

IronMic, don't even waste your time with that moron...

This ENTIRE site gets an erection dissing Jay-Z..

Besides, Jay was better than B.I.G when he was alive..

lmao thats the funniest shit i ever heard laugh.gif

Jay is not better than Biggie why u think he bites him so much? lol bite someone and i guess u become better than him huh? laugh.gif laugh.gif Jay dickriders
Bone Collecta
i find it funny how jay huslter and joe mk all the sudden appear when a thread remotely close to dealing with jay appears laugh.gif laugh.gif
the one
HAHAHAHAHAHAH@ Bone, and Jay, we cool homie. You know how one post can start a whole war but um.......Jay wasnt better than Big when he was alive. And he definetly wouldnt of said no crazy shit like that If he was!!
Iron Mic
QUOTE (Toxic @ Sep 15 2005, 02:10 PM)
ok but y can there be a thread about no ones better than pac when there was was pac better than biggie??

Biggie>Pac, i couldnt really understand what u were saying.


@ Bone, nigga i cant believe after all this time you STILL hate Jay-Z. and no im not a dickrider, Im just saying the truth. Jay-Z can match up to Big.Flow, wordplay, charisma, Jay could match up well with Big, only BIG beats him in delivery and subject matter.

and btw dont be trying to force your opinions down people's throats either. Cus not only can you NOT back up what you say but what you saying is wrong anyways. LOL herb
Bone Collecta
Even Jay-z knows that hes not better than Jay lol that shit is rediculous laugh.gif laugh.gif
Bone Collecta
QUOTE (Iron Mic @ Sep 15 2005, 02:23 PM)
QUOTE (Toxic @ Sep 15 2005, 02:10 PM)
ok but y can there be a thread about no ones better than pac when there was was pac better than biggie??

Biggie>Pac, i couldnt really understand what u were saying.


@ Bone, nigga i cant believe after all this time you STILL hate Jay-Z. and no im not a dickrider, Im just saying the truth. Jay-Z can match up to Big.Flow, wordplay, charisma, Jay could match up well with Big, only BIG beats him in delivery and subject matter.

and btw dont be trying to force your opinions down people's throats either. Cus not only can you NOT back up what you say but what you saying is wrong anyways. LOL herb

its the truth its not hate dry.gif this is no force of opinion. jay is NOT better and wont ever be.
jayhustler
QUOTE (Bone Collecta @ Sep 15 2005, 02:15 PM)
lmao thats the funniest shit i ever heard laugh.gif

Jay is not better than Biggie why u think he bites him so much? lol bite someone and i guess u become better than him huh? laugh.gif laugh.gif Jay dickriders

here we go again.. dry.gif

Don't U get tired of being owned all the time..

U didn't learn from the Nas/Jay Thread I created a couple a months ago, when I sonned your ass line for line, paragraph for paragraph...Pull up the archives people if don't believe me...

It is a fact that Jay-Z is better than Big..He has proven that OVER and OVER and OVER again people...I really don't even want to elaborate on this shit n e more..Shit is so repetitive like Bone Collecta's life!!!...lol..No disrespect, but B.I.G has been gone for over 8 years now..GET OVER IT!

If it weren't 4 Jay making "The Takeover", Nas would have fallen off...PERIOD, POINT, BLANK!...Nas should be sending Jay a thank-U card as we speak!...Nas is in my top-3, but admit it people, Jay bought Nas back to the forefront of hiphop...

Toxic
nah i was just saying that people say pac is the goat wen in reality lyrically pac couldnt see big for ex> hit em up was an average diss extremely personal but average i know warning was one of those disses wit no names but if dat was directed to pac big killed dude
Bone Collecta
QUOTE (jayhustler @ Sep 15 2005, 02:25 PM)
QUOTE (Bone Collecta @ Sep 15 2005, 02:15 PM)
lmao thats the funniest shit i ever heard laugh.gif

Jay is not better than Biggie why u think he bites him so much? lol bite someone and i guess u become better than him huh?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif Jay dickriders

here we go again.. dry.gif

Don't U get tired of being owned all the time..

U didn't learn from the Nas/Jay Thread I created a couple a months ago, when I sonned your ass line for line, paragraph for paragraph...Pull up the archives people if don't believe me...

It is a fact that Jay-Z is better than Big..He has proven that OVER and OVER and OVER again people...I really don't even want to elaborate on this shit n e more..Shit is so repetitive like Bone Collecta's life!!!...lol..No disrespect, but B.I.G has been gone for over 8 years now..GET OVER IT!

If it weren't 4 Jay making "The Takeover", Nas would have fallen off...PERIOD, POINT, BLANK!...Nas should be sending Jay a thank-U card as we speak!...Nas is in my top-3, but admit it people, Jay bought Nas back to the forefront of hiphop...

1) you sonned noone
2) this has nothing to do with Nas but Nas>Jay-z
3) Biggie is faaaaaaaaar better than Jay thats why he keeps biting him. lol its not biging him up. if he was really bigging up his brother he wouldnt have to do it on every album on multiple tracks


gtfoh u jay dickrider
the one
QUOTE (Iron Mic @ Sep 15 2005, 02:23 PM)

@ Bone, nigga i cant believe after all this time you STILL hate Jay-Z. and no im not a dickrider, Im just saying the truth. Jay-Z can match up to Big.Flow, wordplay, charisma, Jay could match up well with Big, only BIG beats him in delivery and subject matter.

and btw dont be trying to force your opinions down people's throats either. Cus not only can you NOT back up what you say but what you saying is wrong anyways. LOL herb

He probably can match the Big from 8 yrs. ago NOW, but If Big were alive he would be light years ahead of Jay, and Nas would be lyrically untouchable, cause Big Is bout the only one that kept NaS on his game, these other rappers suck. NaS know they cant touch him so he's lacadasical!
Iron Mic
no Bone you DO hate Jay-Z, you've been exposed on that at Hoodbred and AF so dont deny it.


Jay-Z=BIG

Flow-its no question they both had the best flows that hip hop has ever seen. But its about who was more diverse with theirs. Big had his unique, booming flow but Jay could not only flow viciously, but he could do the MidWest fast flow( cough cough) that he had perfected during his earlier days.

Vote=Jay

Delivery-BIG wins hands down

Wordplay-another tough category cus both were crazy with it, biggie was more of a lyricist then a wordplay kinda nigga, check out the Black Album to hear Jay's magnificient wordplay

Vote=Jay-Z

Charisma-Both are some bragging mofos. lol. Jay-Z easily wins this category, cus face it: As much shit BIggie talked, he half-assed it in the beef with Pac. He shouldve just murdered him with one record instead of making 2 or 3

Vote=Jay-Z

Voice-Biggie hands down

Vote= BIG

Catogory-Umm... lets see. Biggies 2 albums vs. Jay-Z's 10? and dont give me that "Ready To Die destroys every Jay album" yeah i know that, who doenst? Look at the albums altogether fucka.

Vote=Jay-Z

Mic Presence=again Big wins hands down



It was a half-assed but correct nonetheless breakdown of two of the greatest MCs ever. Bone Collecta, stop bashng the man just because you have an undying hatred of him. In othe rthreads, you always bash he other person for syaing shit like "Pac was way better then Big" but you NEVER say why. If you cant back up your opinions then their full of shit. Fucka
jayhustler
QUOTE (Bone Collecta @ Sep 15 2005, 02:28 PM)
1) you sonned noone
2) this has nothing to do with Nas but Nas>Jay-z
3) Biggie is faaaaaaaaar better than Jay thats why he keeps biting him. lol its not biging him up. if he was really bigging up his brother he wouldnt have to do it on every album on multiple tracks


gtfoh u jay dickrider

#1)Homie, I son U every time, cuz U do it for me...lol

#2)Jay-Z>>>>>Nas

#3)If Jay weren't bigging B.I.G up in a proper way on a constant basis, who would??...Puff Daddy?!..LMAO...Da fuck outta here...Nas?..Nas didn't like B.I.G when he was alive..Any REAL Nas fan knows that...Rakim, Krs-One, Slick Rick???...They didn't fuck wit B.I.G like that...Only on left is Jigga, Dumbass...lol


#4)Once again, OWNED.. ph34r.gif
Setsotama
QUOTE (jayhustler @ Sep 15 2005, 02:36 PM)
#2)Jay-Z>>>>>Nas

blink.gif huh.gif huh.gif
Bone Collecta
lmao laugh.gif ladies and gentleman the person who has Jay-z's nuts in his mout...........jay hustler
Bone Collecta
1) Nas> jay-z he won wit ether and u still dickriding him smh u are a sad ass muhh fucka

2) Nas and big were cool at a time till the Wu shit happened. Rae didnt like him n shit he sided wit Rae
Bone Collecta
o ya and 50 cent> Jay-z business wise since u wanna bring other ppl into it
the one
@ SETS:: blink.gif huh.gif ph34r.gif
Toxic
blink.gif huh.gif
jayhustler
QUOTE (Bone Collecta @ Sep 15 2005, 02:47 PM)
o ya and 50 cent> Jay-z business wise since u wanna bring other ppl into it

dry.gif


Your hate for Jigga is at an all-time High I see... dry.gif


Toxic
hahaha cosign
Setsotama
@ Uno, I made that face for a reason, I'm like, how? really HOW?
the one
QUOTE (Setsotama @ Sep 15 2005, 02:51 PM)
@ Uno, I made that face for a reason, I'm like, how? really HOW?

Me too! mad.gif
Setsotama
but I have a STRONG feeling, its all about album sales, but album sales dont win battles
Bone Collecta
lmao arent u like 15 or somethin?

QUOTE
Wordplay-another tough category cus both were crazy with it, biggie was more of a lyricist then a wordplay kinda nigga, check out the Black Album to hear Jay's magnificient wordplay

Vote=Jay-Z


i have the black album FUCK dat shit

QUOTE
Charisma-Both are some bragging mofos. lol. Jay-Z easily wins this category, cus face it: As much shit BIggie talked, he half-assed it in the beef with Pac. He shouldve just murdered him with one record instead of making 2 or 3

Vote=Jay-Z


LMAO this is a joke. you know why he half assed the beef? cause he approached Pac b4 he made it and asked him why he did hit em up. Pac said it was all sales so thats y he never mentioned his name in the song. Why take someone seriously when they back down?

Biggie> Jay in beefs

he never had to mention anyone's name to get a point across

QUOTE
Catogory-Umm... lets see. Biggies 2 albums vs. Jay-Z's 10? and dont give me that "Ready To Die destroys every Jay album" yeah i know that, who doenst? Look at the albums altogether fucka.

Vote=Jay-Z



lol biggie loses this cause hes dead you dumb ass. nothing after reasonable doubt matters with Jay-z cause he was biting niggas left and right
Iron Mic
QUOTE (Bone Collecta @ Sep 15 2005, 02:47 PM)
o ya and 50 cent> Jay-z business wise since u wanna bring other ppl into it

you're a dumbass Bone.


Jay had a "dynasty" that lasted 9 years nigga. 50 only has 2 artists that went platinum( Buck and Banks) and now one of his artists hasnt even hit gold yet. lo fuck outta here.Jay was a artist on the Roc, and all of his albums after Vol.1 has been platinum. Beanie Sigel when he was on the Roc>>>>>>every artist on the G-Unit label. just because he signed a bunch of washed up artists who's prime has expired long time ago doesnt mean he is a better busniess man. and btw Jay isnt a businessman, he's A BUSINESS MAN, just let him handle his business damn. tongue.gif
Bone Collecta
QUOTE (jayhustler @ Sep 15 2005, 02:50 PM)
QUOTE (Bone Collecta @ Sep 15 2005, 02:47 PM)
o ya and 50 cent> Jay-z business wise since u wanna bring other ppl into it

dry.gif


Your hate for Jigga is at an all-time High I see... dry.gif

as a business man this is true 50 > jay-z wat person u know besides 50 who had everyone on his label go plat?
Iron Mic
QUOTE
as a business man this is true 50 > jay-z wat person u know besides 50 who had everyone on his label go plat?


Yayo hasnt reached 100,000 yet, so their goes your argument.
Bone Collecta
QUOTE (Iron Mic @ Sep 15 2005, 02:53 PM)
QUOTE (Bone Collecta @ Sep 15 2005, 02:47 PM)
o ya and 50 cent> Jay-z business wise since u wanna bring other ppl into it

you're a dumbass Bone.


Jay had a "dynasty" that lasted 9 years nigga. 50 only has 2 artists that went platinum( Buck and Banks) and now one of his artists hasnt even hit gold yet. lo fuck outta here.Jay was a artist on the Roc, and all of his albums after Vol.1 has been platinum. Beanie Sigel when he was on the Roc>>>>>>every artist on the G-Unit label. just because he signed a bunch of washed up artists who's prime has expired long time ago doesnt mean he is a better busniess man. and btw Jay isnt a businessman, he's A BUSINESS MAN, just let him handle his business damn. tongue.gif

lmao jay cant take credit for Rocafella you idiot. the success of Rocafella was cause of Dame and Biggs NOT jay-z
the one
Nice one Iron Mic!

@ SETS, I know! That shit dont mean shit. Ether>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.The Takeover and the rest of them bullshit disses he had to resort to cause his feelings were hurt!
Bone Collecta
QUOTE (Iron Mic @ Sep 15 2005, 02:56 PM)
QUOTE
as a business man this is true 50 > jay-z wat person u know besides 50 who had everyone on his label go plat?


Yayo hasnt reached 100,000 yet, so their goes your argument.

i knew that dumb ass he just came out and is the worst member lol yayo is supposed to be 50's hypeman its not expected for him to sell laugh.gif
Iron Mic
QUOTE (the one @ Sep 15 2005, 02:57 PM)
Nice one Iron Mic!

@ SETS, I know! That shit dont mean shit. Ether>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.The Takeover and the rest of them bullshit disses he had to resort to cause his feelings were hurt!

well, 2 out of 3 aint bad. cool.gif tongue.gif

@ Bone, if he sint supposed to sell why the fuck would they wats etheir time putting together an album? Nigga give it up, you cant fuck wit me, go play somewhere Im busy. tongue.gif lol
jayhustler
QUOTE (Bone Collecta @ Sep 15 2005, 02:54 PM)
as a business man this is true 50 > jay-z wat person u know besides 50 who had everyone on his label go plat?

uuummm...

Try AfterMath Records, DUMBASS

U should be in the Guiness Book of Records for the amount of hate U have 4 jigga...lol
Bone Collecta
yup Ether>takeover they played them both on the radio and had the ppl of NY vote and guess who won? NAS! even rappers IN the industry know that Jay lost laugh.gif laugh.gif
Toxic
damn well when u come and put gunit on trl u gon sell something
Bone Collecta
QUOTE (jayhustler @ Sep 15 2005, 03:01 PM)
QUOTE (Bone Collecta @ Sep 15 2005, 02:54 PM)
as a business man this is true 50 > jay-z wat person u know besides 50 who had everyone on his label go plat?

uuummm...

Try AfterMath Records, DUMBASS

U should be in the Guiness Book of Records for the amount of hate U have 4 jigga...lol

lmao laugh.gif Aftermath who eminem and who? 50 cent is really on shady dre just gets money cause he dipped his hand in the 50 cent pot. lol anyway thats all 50 cent's team you idiot lmao laugh.gif laugh.gif try again
the one
QUOTE (Bone Collecta @ Sep 15 2005, 03:01 PM)
yup Ether>takeover they played them both on the radio and had the ppl of NY vote and guess who won? NAS! even rappers IN the industry know that Jay lost  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Yo Bone, I heard that whole show with Flex and Angie Dickridin Jay and Fat Joe and Kay Slay were like Nas Killed him, Erick Sermon and Raekwon I think called up to and was like that was a landslide.
Bone Collecta
QUOTE (the one @ Sep 15 2005, 03:05 PM)
QUOTE (Bone Collecta @ Sep 15 2005, 03:01 PM)
yup Ether>takeover they played them both on the radio and had the ppl of NY vote and guess who won? NAS! even rappers IN the industry know that Jay lost  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Yo Bone, I heard that whole show with Flex and Angie Dickridin Jay and Fat Joe and Kay Sly were like Nas Killed him, Erick Sermon and Raekwon I think called up to and was like that was a landslide.

ya man they held a vote and everyone knows that nas won. niggas in the industry know it themselves and everything lol LANDSLIDE lol. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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