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pinkdiamonds
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Does anybody agree with me?

STATE YOUR OPINION, POST PICS IF YOU LIKE AND.............

NO DON'T BRING UP 50 CENT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jae Stylez
I agree with all except TI,Gayme,and Nelly.I used to like Nelly Country Grammar was pretty hot to ME but he just went downhill after that. ph34r.gif
ThizzinN530
gayme nelly...luda?? tsh
bonnie03
i agree all of dem good artist. smile.gif
ThizzinN530
i dont know about common.....
GuNiTsHaWdEe83138
Take Nelly off and then i agree... i like Nelly's music but he's not exactly gonna be a "Future Legend"
hiphopchick
I don't know about Nelly being a hip-hop legend......
ShadeDice
nas and jigga already legends.Em,almost.the rest maybe.Except ti and nelly
Bro0klyn
Nas and Jay-z are already legends.....

late 90's legends...

Nas
Jay-z
DMX
and more.......

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future legend

ludacris
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the LOX
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shyne
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memphis bleek
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Cam'Ron
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maybe....
T.I
Cassidy
Nelly....he is popular
eye_cue
i agree but subtrack LUDA..NELLY and T.I.

some might not agree but i would add somebody to that list..dude is raw as fuck..and he was really spittin at like 14-15 years old..not on some lil bow wow type shit..


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sleeper
what makes a legend???? are we talkin legends to the mainstream level or what? cause nas n jayz are legends already...common is a legend that has recreated himself (except the facts)...luda will be because of his style, love it or hate it, but its true...fuck nelly...ti, game n cassidy...game might be because of the teenie boppers n groupies of todays society...but we are forgeting about talib kweli, mos def, kanye west, pharoah monch, immortal technique, az, consequence...just because they arent mainstream doesnt mean they arent legends
Bone Collecta
QUOTE (Bro0klyn @ Aug 15 2005, 01:53 AM)

ludacris
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Cam'Ron
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maybe....
T.I
Cassidy
Nelly....he is popular

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

you arent a legend cause you are popular stupid kids maaaaaaaan

Memphis Bleek? Cam? wtf you Smokin?
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Crk1019
I really don't get how yall sayin "except t.i"or "i don't know about luda", man them niggas is straight dope, they already legends down south just like eightball & mjg, but tha east coast dont wanna recognize
mr jiffo
LMAO...MEMP BLEEEK...maybe a LEGENDARY FAILURE!!!!

that list is trash, sorry....

where are the underground cats?


jay and nas are already legends....

common arguably is too....he IS elite...

eminem...will be a mainstream legend....hes overrated

the way luda is now, he prolly wont be a legend....

nelly? no, hes gone straight pop now....

T.I....i doubt it....

shyne!? no


@ brooklyn, plese hop off DMX's nuts....
DMAN13DDM
Yo BROOKLYN-If you havn't noticed....bow wow and Ja Rule are in that pic......We talkin legends here.
the one
From your list Id say Nas and Jay are already Legends, and some can make a strong case for Em, I would add Jada after 2 more solo albums. laugh.gif @ DMAN!
atl
Luda's a persistent fad.

T.I. will be a legend within 5 years.

Em is at or above J and Nas status.

Cass is a battle legend.

Does nelly rap?

web
You motherfuckers,do you know what it means by legend?
How cud you say Luda,Nelly,T.I... are Legends? You must be fucked up,aight!
On your list,Nas & Jay- z are only legengs,others are just average mceees!!
BEING A LEGEND DOESNT NECESSARILY NEED ONE TO BE THE BEST RAPPER OR WHATEVA BUT WHAT YOU HAVE ACHIEVED!!! HOW BIG YOU ARE,YOU FEEL ME?

heres the list

1. 2pac - hes on top,no explanations
2. 50cent - hate it or love it,hes second to pac,hes now the most followed mc
- his music is loved by the masses world wide,Europe,America & Africa
- you will find alot of bootleg things i.e clothes with 50s name or
- picture just like 2pac! showing how much love he has from people
- hes very popular,probably second to Pac
- he sales records,some fools will argue,but thats the fact
- hes success
3.Jay-Z- hes the most respected mcee,hes also a success
(though i dont like him,but i gat respect for this dude)
4.Nas - his type of flow is tight,better than the top three!!! (my best MC)
5.Big - he had influence in rap game,his rhymes are tight
6.Rakim- this dude is dope!!



from there you have your names,believe you me,im not a hater but im just stating facts tongue.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif
the one
QUOTE (web @ Aug 15 2005, 10:29 AM)
You motherfuckers,do you know what it means by legend?
How cud you say Luda,Nelly,T.I... are Legends? You must be fucked up,aight!
On your list,Nas & Jay- z are only legengs,others are just average mceees!!
BEING A LEGEND DOESNT NECESSARILY NEED ONE TO BE THE BEST RAPPER OR WHATEVA BUT WHAT YOU HAVE ACHIEVED!!! HOW BIG YOU ARE,YOU FEEL ME?

heres the list

1. 2pac - hes on top,no explanations
2. 50cent - hate it or love it,hes second to pac,hes now the most followed mc
- his music is loved by the masses world wide,Europe,America & Africa
- you will find alot of bootleg things i.e clothes with 50s name or
- picture just like 2pac! showing how much love he has from people
- hes very popular,probably second to Pac
- he sales records,some fools will argue,but thats the fact
- hes success
3.Jay-Z- hes the most respected mcee,hes also a success
(though i dont like him,but i gat respect for this dude)
4.Nas - his type of flow is tight,better than the top three!!! (my best MC)
5.Big - he had influence in rap game,his rhymes are tight
6.Rakim- this dude is dope!!



from there you have your names,believe you me,im not a hater but im just stating facts tongue.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif

Even though I dont like 50, your list is very accurate!
Crk1019
QUOTE (web @ Aug 15 2005, 10:29 AM)
You motherfuckers,do you know what it means by legend?
How cud you say Luda,Nelly,T.I... are Legends? You must be fucked up,aight!
On your list,Nas & Jay- z are only legengs,others are just average mceees!!
BEING A LEGEND DOESNT NECESSARILY NEED ONE TO BE THE BEST RAPPER OR WHATEVA BUT WHAT YOU HAVE ACHIEVED!!! HOW BIG YOU ARE,YOU FEEL ME?

heres the list

1. 2pac - hes on top,no explanations
2. 50cent - hate it or love it,hes second to pac,hes now the most followed mc
- his music is loved by the masses world wide,Europe,America & Africa
- you will find alot of bootleg things i.e clothes with 50s name or
- picture just like 2pac! showing how much love he has from people
- hes very popular,probably second to Pac
- he sales records,some fools will argue,but thats the fact
- hes success
3.Jay-Z- hes the most respected mcee,hes also a success
(though i dont like him,but i gat respect for this dude)
4.Nas - his type of flow is tight,better than the top three!!! (my best MC)
5.Big - he had influence in rap game,his rhymes are tight
6.Rakim- this dude is dope!!



from there you have your names,believe you me,im not a hater but im just stating facts tongue.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif

Tha topic said FUTURE legends, we allllll know jay-z, pac, nas etc. are legends, and i didn't say ludacris and t.i. were hip hop legends, i just said they are legends in tha south already<< (my opinon)
the one
Damn CRK, I wasn't even paying attention!
atl
QUOTE (web @ Aug 15 2005, 10:29 AM)
You motherfuckers,do you know what it means by legend?


from there you have your names,believe you me,im not a hater but im just stating facts tongue.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif

Wow my nigga, you just made a monkey of yourself.


do you know what it means by future?

do you know what it means by facts?
Crk1019
^^ thats what im tryna say lol, he just went off on everybody without reading the word FUTURE first
ShortyWop
Jay, Nas, and Common are already legends. Kanye could be a legend, every one else you mentioned are either quite far away or aint never gonna be a legend. SMH at mostly all the stupid shit thats been said about Nelly, Eminem, Jada, Camron, T.I, and all them other weak and average emcees being called a legend





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50cent- hate it or love it,hes second to pac,hes now the most followed mc



ph34r.gif , first of all Pac ISNT an elite mc. Nothing special bout him lyrical, not even top ten in my book. I know ten mcs better. and just cuz 50 is always in the media doesnt mean he's on the level of any elite mc. He dropped 1 hot album and then released a so-so album. Fuck outta here.
nastynasescobar
Nas, Jay-Z, DMX and Eminem are already legends. 50 is knocking on the door Jadakiss too. Future legends Lil Flip and The Game. Common is not a legend I think Talib Kweli is much better listening to common makes me sleepy that voice just gets annoying. Talib has better beats on his songs too. Kanye West of course is going to be another legend. The Future for now is Lloyd banks Paul Wall Mike Jones Slim Thug Maino Lil Weavah and Papoose.
atl
I totally disagree, but...

What you know bout Weavah?
ShortyWop
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Common is not a legend


another ignorant statement made on this board. Common is a legend, he has two classic albums, (Like Water For Chocolate and Resurrection) and he has a classic hip hop song, I Use To Love H.E.R. If DMX and Jada can be legends, then of course Common is a legend. Eminem iz prolly gonna be a legend cuz of him being so media-overhyped. Talib has a nice producer backing him up so of course he gonna have nice beats, but the production on BE was great. Fuck outta here.
LLoyd Banks, Slim Thug, Paul Wall, Lil Flip, The Game, 50 Cent Mike Jones and all them other niggas you named aint gonna be a fucking legend. Papoose has a chance,, but he aiont there.
VERSEital
Nas & Jay-Z already legends

Em is on his way

All of those guys are the FUTURE cept for T.I.

Nelly Fell off

AND HATE IT OR LOVE IT

50 IS ON TOP AND ON HIS WAY

VERSE





ShortyWop
QUOTE (VERSEital @ Aug 15 2005, 05:43 PM)
Nas & Jay-Z already legends

Em is on his way

All of those guys are the FUTURE cept for T.I.

Nelly Fell off

AND HATE IT OR LOVE IT

50 IS ON TOP AND ON HIS WAY

VERSE

Eminem has made no impact on hip hop, he shouldnt be a legend at all, he'll prolly be thought of as a legend cuz of his overhyped ass.

Mostly all of them nigga wont be a legend, especially T.I.

Nelly aint shit

50 is on top, but he doesnt even get any love from his own borough. lol Nobody likes 50 in NYC, The Massarce was overhyped like a motherfucka. just cus he's on top doesnt mean he's a elite mc, nor is he a legend
Cuffs2g
Nelly & Luda are legends, I don't like dere music either but dere longevity and length of relevance make them legends. Cuz talent alone don't make you a legend, A legend is someone who remained relevant in there genre. I mean who can't rap wit Run DMC or NWA even so both groups are legendary.

Current legends would be ,not cuz I like em but cuz others do:
Nas, Jay-Z,Eminem(white boy champ), Common (backpack champ),Snoop, and Dre

Future legends people who if they keep on the path dey on will be legends

50 cent, Jada, TI, Nelly, Luda, The whole swisha house camp Slim Thug,Mike Jones, Paul Wall, Chamillionaire etc(they'll all be legends because they will be looked at as the entity that made Houston a major player in hip-hop,
There are others but these guys are definites
atl
QUOTE (VERSEital @ Aug 15 2005, 05:43 PM)
All of those guys are the FUTURE cept for T.I.

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HuRRiCaNe
I agree - Papoose - he has a chance, hes jus gota tke a few more steps 4 makin it big smile.gif sum mite disagree but hey we all hav our opinions wink.gif
ShortyWop
QUOTE (Cuffs2g @ Aug 15 2005, 05:53 PM)
Nelly & Luda are legends, I don't like dere music either but dere longevity and length of relevance make them legends. Cuz talent alone don't make you a legend, A legend is someone who remained relevant in there genre. I mean who can't rap wit Run DMC or NWA even so both groups are legendary.

Current legends would be ,not cuz I like em but cuz others do:
Nas, Jay-Z,Eminem(white boy champ), Common (backpack champ),Snoop, and Dre

Future legends people who if they keep on the path dey on will be legends

50 cent, Jada, TI, Nelly, Luda, The whole swisha house camp Slim Thug,Mike Jones, Paul Wall, Chamillionaire etc(they'll all be legends because they will be looked at as the entity that made Houston a major player in hip-hop,
There are others but these guys are definites

what the fuck are you smoking? seriously. Nelly and Mike Jones legends of hip hop? GTFOH. There's no way in hell this could happen. The whole Swisha House camp sucks ass, not just a few of em the whole label is trash
Cuffs2g
If you make a region relevant you become a legend. I don't even like swisha house but 20million people in the south do and the south hate it or love have takin ova hip-hop and that is why they will be legends. Nelly made St. Louis a relevant area for music and continues to bang out hits which is why he will be a legend.


As i said, A legend is defined by longevity, these artists will have longevity and mark a new day in hip-hop whether you like it or not.
ShortyWop
longevity is just one thing. How about impact? MCing skillz? Consistency? it wouldnt hurt if they could make a classic album as well. i think the best album from wannabe legends is from DMX, Its Dark And Hell Is Hot. Classic album, Im not denying that. But DMX hasnt been consistent and he for damn sure hasnt had longevity. UGK was repping for Texas LONG BEFORE Swisha House. Nelly is the only one who would qualify if we talking about putting a region on the map. I couldnt consider any of them wannabes legends a real legend until there music starts to get better.
Cuffs2g
The music is only bad to you and I. Houston,Tx had acts before such as UGK, Scarface etc, BUT they haven't made an impact as a collective as swisha house, Swisha House has had an undeniable impact on hip-hop music because before them you never would ever see a music video on national tv that was chopped and screwed but now because of them you see just that,

Mc skills are all in the ear of the listener, some east coast fans have said Ice Cube didnt have emcees skills because he didnt use the multis or pattern of rhyme of a Big Daddy Kane or Rakim. But he did have skills they just didnt like them, consistency is the same if the music you make makes people dance and erytime you come out you do that you are consistent.
ShortyWop
Cuffs, Scarface and UGk have both made classic albums, that's making an impact homie. I see what you saying, u saying Swisha House as a collective is making an impact. I disagree, the south as a collective is making somewhat of an impact. It isnt just them niggas.
Cuffs2g
I'm tellin you these guys will be legends people will look back in 10 yrs and say Nelly is the reason I started rhymin or Mike Jones showed me that you can make it from the south talkin bout chicken and grits nahmean, Classic album to you maybe garbage to me, Your holding these artists to what was hot in 88 it ain't like that now, these guys are taking rap and reshaping into dere own southern, midwestern, or west coast creation which has changed the sound of hip-hop, it used to be erybody tried to sound like dey were from ny. Now they sound like they sound, use slang that they use and rap the way they think is good to them, kinda like NWA did, people used to say they weren't real hip-hop either and now they're considered legends.
curtis75black
QUOTE (pinkdiamonds @ Aug 15 2005, 12:11 AM)
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Does anybody agree with me?

STATE YOUR OPINION, POST PICS IF YOU LIKE AND.............

NO DON'T BRING UP 50 CENT!!!!!!!!!!!!

I read Everything (lol) and it seems to be too much bias with the responses. Straight up, you don't like the Mc to be a legend, so when It comes to Nelly which all of yall seem to disagree with is wrong. Nelly came out of nowhere sounding like nobody but himself. His first album Shocked the world and but wherever he's from on the map, His second killed it just as good or even better I don't know. I feel if brings out a couple of more cd's of better caliber, he should be on his way. Common is already their, Fuck That. Eversince "Can I borrow a Dollar" he been on some real shit, so if anyone who's not feeling him just ain't. TI and Game is just hot for the min, to say future legends. Memphis (Hell No)lol . That cat is pitiful. He's the only Mc capable of jayz having his back and not producing a Damn Thing. I'll put Benie before him. Luda is eh maybe. I mean he is hot sometimes but I don't know. Em, Jay and Nas already proved what they can do, regardless of how you feel about them personally.
curtis75black
QUOTE (pinkdiamonds @ Aug 15 2005, 12:11 AM)
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Does anybody agree with me?

STATE YOUR OPINION, POST PICS IF YOU LIKE AND.............

NO DON'T BRING UP 50 CENT!!!!!!!!!!!!

I read Everything (lol) and it seems to be too much bias with the responses. Straight up, you don't like the Mc to be a legend, so when It comes to Nelly which all of yall seem to disagree with is wrong. Nelly came out of nowhere sounding like nobody but himself. His first album Shocked the world and put wherever he's from on the map, His second killed it just as good or even better I don't know. I feel if brings out a couple of more cd's of better caliber, he should be on his way. Common is already their, Fuck That. Eversince "Can I borrow a Dollar" he been on some real shit, so if anyone who's not feeling him just ain't. TI and Game is just hot for the min, to say future legends. Memphis (Hell No)lol . That cat is pitiful. He's the only Mc capable of jayz having his back and not producing a Damn Thing. I'll put Benie before him. Luda is eh maybe. I mean he is hot sometimes but I don't know. Em, Jay and Nas already proved what they can do, regardless of how you feel about them personally.
curtis75black
O yeah Kayne is just a producer to me.
ShortyWop
Im completely agree curtis
curtis75black
I forgot Jadakiss can't even put a hot solo together, shit its not even a solo with all the rappers on it. A hot verse yeah, hot cd nah, so for him not even close. He is worse than Memphis Bleek cause he can actually spit. Cassidy first Cd flopped and now he is on his second, so to put him on that list as future without even having a classic under his belt is Straight fucked up.
Jae Stylez
Who decides that they can have legend status it's all an opinion and if you don't agree with someone one's list it does'nt matter.


Cass could be a legend if he put effort into it,same thing with Em,these dude's can be one of the greats if they stopped fuckin around and dropped a raw album with no bullshit songs.
LOSTGYRL..WYNDBLEW
I disagree...


Nelly has a few good songs first off.. I can not listen to his cd's straight through..


Legend is a strong word.

Nas will be remembered as greatness..(one of my favorites)
JayZ.. well his music was something to dance to.
Kanye West is a excellent producer and entertainer.
T.I.... I'm not familiar with his work.
Ememin.. Will be known as a the world's best "white" rapper

as far as the rest..

the Game.. he's good, not the best
J.A.D.A is the kiss of death.. (one of my favorites)
Common... A Poet
Cassidy.. Praying for a miracle
Luda..... same goes for Nelly!!!


this is just my opinion...


like it.. or leave it
maddcracker
QUOTE (ShortyWop @ Aug 15 2005, 05:50 PM)
QUOTE (VERSEital @ Aug 15 2005, 05:43 PM)
Nas & Jay-Z already legends

Em is on his way

All of those guys are the FUTURE cept for T.I.

Nelly Fell off

AND HATE IT OR LOVE IT

50 IS ON TOP AND ON HIS WAY

VERSE

Eminem has made no impact on hip hop, he shouldnt be a legend at all, he'll prolly be thought of as a legend cuz of his overhyped ass.

Mostly all of them nigga wont be a legend, especially T.I.

Nelly aint shit

50 is on top, but he doesnt even get any love from his own borough. lol Nobody likes 50 in NYC, The Massarce was overhyped like a motherfucka. just cus he's on top doesnt mean he's a elite mc, nor is he a legend

homie you must be slow.....em, not a legend? dude em will take on anyone one that list and tear em' up. i love jayz and nas, but when it comes to battle rappin.....em holds the crown. and the only one that would come close to em is big l. (who i personally think em is tied with in 1st place) and its sad none of yall have him anywhere on this list. even if he's a legend already he needs to be recognized... you should be slapped for sayin that shit about em, name one person who can beat em and put a song where they show case there talent. and ill show you some marshall shit that'll blow ur mind.....hater
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QUOTE (pinkdiamonds @ Aug 15 2005, 12:11 AM)
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Does anybody agree with me?

STATE YOUR OPINION, POST PICS IF YOU LIKE AND.............

NO DON'T BRING UP 50 CENT!!!!!!!!!!!!

everyone except for nelly biggrin.gif oh and add lil wayne wink.gif
web
QUOTE (pinkdiamonds @ Aug 15 2005, 12:11 AM)
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Does anybody agree with me?

STATE YOUR OPINION, POST PICS IF YOU LIKE AND.............

NO DON'T BRING UP 50 CENT!!!!!!!!!!!!

From the list of pictures you have given us,Jay -Z & Nas are already legends
And non apart from those two will be legends!!! tongue.gif

Why not 50? Cuz you hate him? No motherfucker! He is!!
Hate it or love it!! Hes second to Pac tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Who the fuck is Luda? T.I?,Nelly? Them being legends?
you dont know legends,those are just "casual Mcees"
what influence have they done? All you know is hating, bitch!
i cant see them going to be legends,cuz you personally like them?

sometimes give opinions from a neutral point of view!





Bone Collecta
QUOTE (atl @ Aug 15 2005, 10:18 AM)
Luda's a persistent fad.

T.I. will be a legend within 5 years.

Em is at or above J and Nas status.

Cass is a battle legend.

Does nelly rap?

how the fuck is Cass a battle legend wit 1 battle?
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