XXL: I was happy that Tara found Alicia, but she is just horrible at everything else. When she tried to pull the zombie off her sister it was sad.
Grae: Yeah, it was not helpful, you have guns. And all you want to do is talk shit about guns all day. And Alicia calls you on your shit. And you thought that was the best way? Clearly this is why you did not become a cop. This is the same person who was up on the roof repeatedly trying to kill zombies and not shooting them in the head.
XXL: Let’s talk about the supply scene. How great was that?
Grae: Here’s my question: who raided their camp? I don’t understand. My first feeling was, did the governor go back and kill him? Who the fuck came back, killed them and took their shit?
Monch: I am interested in that plot to unfold to see who raided the camp because I don’t have a clue.
XXL: The zombie pit part was weird.
Grae: They actually couldn’t get further on the road. In addition to the zombie mudslide, which was great. Which I didn’t understand because you could have taken another road. Or maybe it was kind of symbolic of what was out there and right now it may not be the best option to leave. Another scene was taking out the eye patch. I think it was everyone simultaneously letting their guard down. With Tara being off of guard duty and stupid, Megan being like, “Come on, let’s play hide and seek in this God damn zombie apocalypse,” and The Governor being like, “I’m going to be vulnerable for a second.”
Monch: The zombie quicksand thing was one of my favorite scenes. I enjoyed the zombies in quicksand. I wonder how they all ended up in quicksand and not walking around the quicksand.
Grae: I did too. It looked great. I actually might want a giant picture of that on my wall. Here’s my question: that camp that they built, or just any one in general, even at the prison—I feel like everything built on level ground doesn’t seem to work very much. But what seems to catch zombies, is, say, quicksand or digging large ditches. So at what point is anyone going to suggest with just digging a very large perimeter around the camp with just one pass open for them, where the zombies would crawl in before getting to you. How is that not a option?
Monch: They need to build a moat around the prison.
Grae: If they just dug around and left one pass open for the car. ‘Cause zombies don’t know where the fuck they’re going. Now that’s going to bother me for the rest of the show.
XXL: Did y’all see the previews for the next episode? Who do you think dies?
Grae: Yeah, I’m very excited and I don’t have anyone on the prison side that I want to die.
XXL: I think the father, Herschel, dies.
Grae: Herschel? Noooo. He is the weak link right now because of his leg and his age. But he was really strong in the other episodes. But he is actually the weak one.
XXL: I think someone significant will die. My guess is Herschel and maybe Tara.
Grae: I think it would be horrible if Glenn’s girlfriend [died].
Monch: No, they have to keep the cute people. [Laughs]
Grae: She’s very cute. I like her, but it would be an emotional loss for everyone. Oh you know what, can we kill Tyrese in this episode? You can’t kill Daryl, you can’t kill Michonne, you can’t kill Carl.
XXL: Can you imagine Carl dying?
Grae: I would stop watching the show and start writing letters and petitions immediately. Maybe they shoot the baby. Maybe Judith gets shot by The Governor. I would be like, “Yo, what if the governor shoots the baby in the face?” [Laughs]
XXL: The series would be cancelled. It would be like, “Yeah, we went too far.” [Laughs] You think they use the tank?
Grae: I also that was a great shot. In the camp and it was the trailer on one side and the tank on the other. That was awesome.
XXL: Do you think they take the prison?
Monch: It’s better for the show if the prison gets overtaken for the suspense and the surprise. Its something that we don’t think is going to happen and it is getting boring over at the prison with them just staying their with the prison life and the prison sickness. The prison sucks right now.
Grae: I think it will end with you not knowing if you take the prison or not. But it goes far enough that people are dead. Like when they were leaving Herschel’s Farm. And maybe a good Governor/Rick face-off. Or maybe Megan gets killed.
XXL: Or maybe Megan vs Carl.
Grae: Megan vs Carl, which should be the entire 2nd half of the season. Like if Carl shoots Megan, that could happen. I would like Carol to get some kind of mention.
Monch: Oh shit, there it goes. Carol raided the camp.
Grae: Oh, that’s a great one. Actually that make sense, Carol. Carol raided the camp and is on her way back to the prison.
Monch: Carol raided the camp!
Grae: Carol raided the camp, she’s on her way back to the prison ’cause she’s the only one on the outside right now, helping from the outside. Yes, good job Pharoahe.