Comments on: Minstrel show rap

By: TyPeRyTeR 250

TyPeRyTeR 250 — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 00:52:07 +0000

I haven’t heard the song, (call me out of touch if you will, I’m bumping some of the hottest shit out right now,and what do you know? It didn’t make the list.)

Let me reflect on Lil’ Wayne’s extremely vague comment when asked how he plans to do it all over again (intro, carter 3) He Explains the secret to staying sucessful is to “Stay Personal. Stay Personal,what I mean by that is:Stay within yourself;or if you lose, you’ll understand why you lost- Cuz you played yourself,an’ you’ll know what you did wrong. You can’t lose;Keep it personal. Music Is about the person.”

That being said, I agree with wayne.Part of the reason all these horrible songs are popping up, is because we’ve somehow decided to dumb down our lyrics a little to sell a few more records.I’m not saying this is a racial issue, or a geographical one,but I’m more in agreement now than I was with Nas two months ago. This shit is getting WAY out of hand, and frankly we’re letting it happen.

This is a whole other issue, but also reflects a little on the dumbing down of the lyrics,which I believe is due in part to our acceptance of lazy or “easy” fad that came in aroun d the same time as the ROC was forming like voltron, or let’s say around the time dipset came into the picture. I’m not hating on the dips, back the truck up.All I’m saying is the second we started rhyming the same word with the same word multiple times in sixteen bars, It became so easy for fickle minded young fucks to start pumping out garbage music , and get rich off it. And I blame the fans for the sales. If you’re one of the people who listen to this kind of $h1t, then you ARE contributing to the death of true hip-hop. I mean come on, aren’t some of you tired of clubbin’ songs? Dopeboy songs? I listen to some dopeboy music, but let’s be honest. It’s flooding the market, and it’s ruining hip-hop. Nobody talks about much more than their ki’s and their keys nowadays it seems like none of y’all even care to hear intelligent raps anymore.

I wonder how many of y’all bought THE COUP’s latest album, “Pick a Bigger Weapon” or how many of you chicken soup listeners have heard of REAL lyricists like I self devine, or C.Rayz Walz.,Cunnilinguists, QWel of Typical cats, Uprise of tha dopefiends,Anti-pop Consortium,The perceptionists, I could go on forever. You see, I have no problem bumping some of the less intelligent rap; even I can relate to some of the stories found within. I used to sell dope.I used to live on the street. I grew up in low income housing, and Didnt have much of a father figure as a kid. But I’m ashamed to look at some of y’all rappers nowadays. How did rappers like 50 get so rich(even despite his amazing promotion and super producer) SINGING teenie bopper songs, when cats like Ghostface, Ras KAss, Sheek Louch,(or any of the D-block cats)not get the light they should?

XXL, you guys are part to blame for contributing to this new plague in hip hop, I mean I remember when your issues had more Content than ads. More rappers than models. More substance than propaganda. Remember the Reggie Noble Issue, one of the first? I think it was #3( I don’t have mine anymore)But that was one of my favorite issues ever. Something’s changed since then, annd it isn’t the rent. I understand paying bills, but I mean you need to cover more than one are of hip-hop.You never interview scratching DJ’s (mostly just mixtape DJ’s, and I rarely see anything even subsurface,never mind underground.( however must commend you on the 360* section, and featuring some canadian content in the past few months.)
But let’s be real, If you support the life, the mentality doesn’t have to go with it. I know plenty of Intelligent Dopeboys, and none of them are doing the Chicken Soup Dance.

By: C Love

C Love — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:42:12 +0000

Not sure how able a person that is not the descendant of black american slaves can say what or what the music does not do to the black community. If you are not from it or live in it…you are not in a position to comment.

I think the black community was initially happy that so many young blacks were speaking thier minds and becoming millionaires. Perhaps in our naivete…we assumed that these people would give back to their communities..and we would all benenfit. Now all I see is greed…no one cares about their community anymore and most NEVER speak for the oppressed masses….all these rappers care about is themselves. Most are no longer in the hood to even be affected by the damage a lot of rap music does.

Whites (the primary BUYERS of Rap)…have HISTORICALLY found blacks making fools of themselves entertaining. Once upon a time when authenticity was at the root of Hip Hop ….they needed us, but now they do not…since it has been proven that even if POC decided to not participated….it will live on. Once upon a time…Blacks were involved in Rock…..say that to a kid today and they will NEVER believe you.

Same thing could happen to hip hop if we let it. It is time for some personal accountibility…..the labels are in the biz of selling a product. They are not in the business of uplifting the black community…no matter how inflential we think their cooperation could be.

Forget the labels. Forget Russell Simmons. Forget theses fake rappers. At the end of the day….they do not matter. What can we do to help our community? Why don’t we all get as passionate about discussing that topic???

By: Blacks bring it on themselves: A Response : Dr. Lester K. Spence

Blacks bring it on themselves: A Response : Dr. Lester K. Spence — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:41:43 +0000

[...] In the contemporary moment, we’ve got all types of examples of righteous behavior, of black people being humane towards each other, towards non-blacks, and towards nature. But dictates what is sold on the market–what becomes mainstream–are the preferences of the mass market. What Entman and Rojecki do is show the content of these preferences. Blacks participate in as much as black actors and performers need jobs…but blacks do not “create” these images. Rather, a small percentage of blacks choose to participate–but these images existed before some of us began the modern day minstrel show, and they’ll likely continue after they’re gone. And lest Pup think that history plays no role in this, check out the quote below: …Whites’ attitudes on race and perceptions of Black behavior reveal a necessarily simplified but understandable mode of thinking that arises from the absence of regular, close interaction and from largely hidden but lingering cultural influences. (p.7) [...]

By: Jamie Radford Weblog » Blog Archive » “It just reflects reality”

Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:04:28 +0000

[...] Chuck D made the good point that, for whatever reason, the big-money music companies have decided to put most of their muscle behind the worst-of-the-worst hip-hop and rap music. I think this fact has partly to do with the fact that there are many white people who are most comfortable with rap music that depicts black people as buffoons - as oversexed, liquor-drinking, pimp-suit wearing cartoon characters - and record execs know that those images will sell best to the least common denominator of hip-hop’s mostly-white audience. It’s sad, really. [...]

By: The 10 biggest race and pop culture trends of 2006: Part 2 of 3 at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture

Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:35:52 +0000

[...] MUSIC: Byron Crawford really nailed it when he wrote: “Flush with revenue from the likes of Mike Jones’ Who Is Mike Jones?, the Ying Yang Twins’ “Wait (The Whisper Song),” Three-Six Mafia’s Academy Award-winning theme to Hustle and Flow, and D4l’s “Laffy Taffy,” record labels are rushing out to sign the most coon-like negros they can find.” Cases in point: DJ Webstar and Young B’s Chicken Noodle Soup, Ms Peachez’ Fry That Chicken, but perhaps the most egregious example is Jibbs’ Chain Hang Low, which is set to an actual minstrel tune known as “Zip Coon” or “Turkey in the Straw.” No subtlety there. And don’t forget the ongoing tradition on The Maury Show known as the Not a Baby Daddy Dance. Of course, rapper NYOIL tried to address the minstrelsy problem in hip hop with his problematic and controversial video, Y’all Should All Get Lynched. See varying analyses of this video here and here. [...]

By: » Blog Archive

» Blog Archive — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:11:31 +0000

[...] I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. This “Ms. Peachez” woman (man in drag?) is a sinner. Not only has she sinned against herself, her people, and the entire hip-hop industry, but she has sinned against God. In making this boastful video, clearly she has committed the deadly sin of pride. [...]

By: jack7son

jack7son — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 03:41:15 +0000

White folks can do a show like Blue Collar Comedy, which baffoons white redneck stereotypes and nobody cares. Black folks make equally funny videos which baffon black country stereotypes, and suddenly we have an issue. I think the material, either white or black is essentially making the same joke, and is funny. Do you think Ms. Peachez really behaves that way in real life? It’s just an act.

As far as it being a regression of black music, all popular music is regressing. Turn on any radio; top 40, R&B, country, alt rock…it all sounds ridiculous. Look at the tv, there’s hardly anything worthwhile on there. Same for the movies.
IMHO this is not a represention of black regression, but rather a regression in the level of sophistication that the US culture requires today.

By: awakened

awakened — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:23:03 +0000

I am from the south and I feel southern rappers should be the main one conscious of minstrel/vaudeville behavior. Instead, they are entertaining the white man who accidently flips the station to bet. He’s laughing hysterically. It’s sad to see music regressing like this. It’s sadder to see oblivious black people advocating it. This is the type of sleep state the white people want us to stay in..unaware, ignorant, shuckin and jivin, and providing minstrel show entertainment. Let’s unify again..and put an end to ignorance in our community.

By: African American (Black) Opinion

African American (Black) Opinion — Sun, 08 Oct 2006 02:51:31 +0000

[...] Source: xxlmag.comSouthern hip-hop reaches its logical conclusion. [...]

By: Stax On Deck

Stax On Deck — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 17:55:05 +0000

Whoever You Are Who Am I you hit the Nail On The Head. Str8t Cosigning that shyt!

By: who am i?

who am i? — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 06:19:30 +0000

i liked reading everything but the comment about southern hip hop being shitty. dude it’s some of the realest muthaphukas you ever heard down south. i know plenty of southern mc’s that go hard. Scarface, 8Ball, Bun B, Chamillionaire, Fat Pat…r.i.p., Maica, Mystical, TI, Ludacris, etc….
the list goes on and on. you can’t call southern hip hop shitty just because you don’t understand the vibe. if you grew up dealing with the bullshit that we put up with you would understand our music. i’m from Texas and we bang Screw! most people don’t understand Screw music. they call it ” that slow shit”. disrespectfull…very disrespectful. see Screw is more than slowing a song down and sipping drank. it’s a lifestyle. see southern rappers are what they talk. they do what they say. down here all you really got is yo balls and yo word. whatever touch the mic better be real talk or don’t talk it, cause dudes will pull yo card. see in other places you get the animated and story telling rappers, cause it’s all about if my story is more interesting than yours. everybody’s in competition. we don’t have to compete like that. we love our southern rappers and we allow all of them to eat. that is until they go sour. don’t get me wrong. like anywhere else we do have our bad apples. i defend the entire south, but i can not and will not defend the wack. no matter what the location. yeah nike jones, who, mike jones and lil flip set us back a few years on the hip hop evolution chart, but we trying to climb back. we might make it if paul wall either got back with Chamillionaire or stopped rapping. we need our Great White Hope, but damn he letting us down. for those that don’t know check your color changing click websites and try to find some old mixtapes. you see that paul used to spit some throwed shit. (what it dew its paul wall i be…in a denali/ ridding on deap dishes i’m an expert at potery)……sigh
thanks for letting me get that off my chest……good day

By: Real Talk From The Dirty South

Real Talk From The Dirty South — Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:29:59 +0000

Real Talk muthafuckaz…Da South Don’t Fuck Wit New York because y’all hate on the South quicker than taliban blowin demselves up. You catz try to put us in one categorey…non lyricists with nice beatz. The South Does so many different types of music that it is impossible to label us in just one group. We do Crunk/Screw/Snap/Gangster/Pop/and just plain on Real Ass Music. Not too many of you New Yorker respect anybody who has something goin that is better or even slightly better YOU. And y’all wonder why the South is SO united itz because we are like one big HOOD. In the South we do plenty much everything the same. Crunk shyt came from Memphis and Atlanta. Screw Music came from Houston. We Rep Our States 4 sho, but we will Rep The South faster than anything. The South does our thing and don’t care if you hate or not. We just gettin started…

By: whats happening to hip hop- a conversation… « thieves in the night

whats happening to hip hop- a conversation… « thieves in the night — Fri, 29 Sep 2006 18:33:37 +0000

[...] Minstrel show rap [...]

By: Pissed Aggin

Pissed Aggin — Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:03:25 +0000

What the fuck is this bullshit? What happened to the advancement of our people. It’s our kids listening to this shit. Sad day for hip-hop. Shout out to Bill Cosby. He ain’t the only one that’s angry.

By: proof

proof — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:42:11 +0000

“SOME TIMES I THINK NIGGAS MISS SLAVERY…THEN I SEE SHIT LIKE THIS AND I KNOW THEY DO:

http://www.myspace.com/cottonpikaz ”

Its the Souf…Fuck’n Ignorant Animals….

By: Unspoken Respect

Unspoken Respect — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:35:55 +0000

Wow, this is real important news. Crawford, find a new job or come up with some information that is important to hip hop.

By: Tone

Tone — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:54:57 +0000

Fuckin’ coons.

By: O U RAP 2

O U RAP 2 — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:37:29 +0000

SOME TIMES I THINK NIGGAS MISS SLAVERY…THEN I SEE SHIT LIKE THIS AND I KNOW THEY DO:

http://www.myspace.com/cottonpikaz

By: The Smoking Section » Death of a Star: How a piece of fried chicken killed Percy Miracles

Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:28:36 +0000

[...] I can’t even front, even Bol gets this one right (”Minstrel Show Rap“) with his assessment of the whole emergence of coonery and buffonery in hip-hop. [...]

By: VAgangsta

VAgangsta — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:41:41 +0000

awww joe…u soundin like a bitch who upset south aint gettin its respect….well heres the deal ho….that south shit is hot but some of that shit is garbage….its not even hip hop, its pop hop….u prolly bumpin that chicken noodle soup aint ya?? fuck out of here b with that bullshit….